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2022-05-23 12:22:02 AM  
Yes, it is.
 
2022-05-23 12:34:37 AM  
If you need a charity navigator 4 star rated choice in Colorado just ask. It is person's own money to use how they want and helping dogs is always good.
 
2022-05-23 12:47:51 AM  
Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.
 
2022-05-23 12:48:27 AM  
Then they can leave their money to whom ever they please.
 
2022-05-23 1:26:18 AM  

aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.


A number of smaller nonprofits organization have a much better rate of spending on the care of animals than larger ones that spend more on advertising than direct to animal care. Meeting guidestar or charity navigator reporting allows some confidence in spending on cause.
 
2022-05-23 1:27:03 AM  
Just check if your crotchfruit have even the slightest appearance of being incorrigible shiatheads, and if so, donate away.
 
2022-05-23 4:28:11 AM  

aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.


The friend might have a point. Not the one they were trying to make, but a point nonetheless. Leaving/donating a large amount to a tiny organization might (or might not) cause them to think that they can now afford a new truck (rather than a perfectly functional used one - prepandemic pricing anyway), or open up another location, or some other high value etc. You need to talk to them to see what they might do with it, spread it around to a lot of small shelters, or if it's really 'that' large of a donation, set up a trust that leaves the principal mostly in place and distributes a nice chunk annually (a trust with relatively low overhead. You don't want to buy the trust officer a new truck while trying to prevent the shelter from doing so...)

But bottom line is that it's your money to do with as you wish/however makes you happy
 
2022-05-23 4:47:42 AM  
It's fine as long as the charity in question isn't PETA, because they're scum.
 
2022-05-23 6:32:38 AM  
Your friend wants a taste.
 
2022-05-23 7:10:00 AM  

aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.


When my son was young, and nuts about guinea pigs (he still is at 26), we were at a church event. He mentioned to our priest that he wanted to volunteer at a guinea pig rescue. The priest just started ranting about people helping animals when there are so many people in need. Did he not read the bible?
Yeah, not a good day for the church. My kid ignored his ravings.
 
2022-05-23 7:25:40 AM  
Good plan. I have no kids so my money is going to animal shelters, food banks, and other local charities.
 
2022-05-23 7:29:50 AM  
I plan on leaving all my money to Charity.  She's a stripper at Diamonds Cabaret on the east side with spectacular assets of her own.
 
2022-05-23 7:58:18 AM  
slate advice articles seem like they were cooked up by derpy 80s artificial intelligence using a mad libs template
 
2022-05-23 8:02:25 AM  
All that I got out of that is that she humblebrags a lot about having 2.5 million dollars.  Maybe a hint of "my kids don't visit, so I'm going to be a control freak with my money, and let them know they're missing out on these sweet sweet cash prizes.... but I'm going to do so in the most passive way by writing to Slate."

As for the actual choice of charity, local is good.  A single cash drop on a single small charity might cause some chaos for that charity.

As for life end planning, medical and legal power of attorneys, and end of life care, she should worry more about getting legal advice, rather than humblebragging morality advice.

Standard disclaimer, of course the letter is fake.
 
2022-05-23 8:18:18 AM  

Recoil Therapy: aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.

The friend might have a point. Not the one they were trying to make, but a point nonetheless. Leaving/donating a large amount to a tiny organization might (or might not) cause them to think that they can now afford a new truck (rather than a perfectly functional used one - prepandemic pricing anyway), or open up another location, or some other high value etc. You need to talk to them to see what they might do with it, spread it around to a lot of small shelters, or if it's really 'that' large of a donation, set up a trust that leaves the principal mostly in place and distributes a nice chunk annually (a trust with relatively low overhead. You don't want to buy the trust officer a new truck while trying to prevent the shelter from doing so...)

But bottom line is that it's your money to do with as you wish/however makes you happy


when people donate money to the college/university they went to  they can stipulate if it's meant for the library, or to be used on lawn care, et cetera. that's why large old wealthy well endowed instutitons of learning do not just thrown all the money at students getting a free ride. the money is spoken for.
 
2022-05-23 8:20:08 AM  
Is it a registered charity?
 
2022-05-23 8:23:34 AM  

eurotrader: If you need a charity navigator 4 star rated choice in Colorado just ask. It is person's own money to use how they want and helping dogs is always good.


You've piqued my curiosity.
 
2022-05-23 9:03:18 AM  
That's pretty damn selfish and immoral. Why can't you just leave it all to the Catholic church?
 
2022-05-23 9:19:45 AM  
Dunno why not.  When I finally get my smoking hot body my pile of pennies will be split into 3 piles: one for the FSF, one for the EFF, and one for a local animal rescue group.
 
2022-05-23 9:25:59 AM  

Ker_Thwap: All that I got out of that is that she humblebrags a lot about having 2.5 million dollars.  Maybe a hint of "my kids don't visit, so I'm going to be a control freak with my money, and let them know they're missing out on these sweet sweet cash prizes.... but I'm going to do so in the most passive way by writing to Slate."

As for the actual choice of charity, local is good.  A single cash drop on a single small charity might cause some chaos for that charity.

As for life end planning, medical and legal power of attorneys, and end of life care, she should worry more about getting legal advice, rather than humblebragging morality advice.


Maybe she's just explaining the size of it to get better advice. I mean if her estate were worth $100 it's unlikely her family would bother to hire a lawyer to contest, but plenty of folks would try their luck at getting a chunk of $2.5 million. For example, it would be a Good Idea to have a proper lawyer draw up the will, mentioning all the relatives by name, and giving each a tiny token amount. Depending on the state, it might also make sense to include a spicy in terrorem clause.
 
2022-05-23 9:27:28 AM  
I do not like animals in general. Don't want pets. Like at all. I would NEVER leave my money to an "animal charity" or something like it.

And the answer is still 100% yes.
 
2022-05-23 9:27:39 AM  

koder: Just check if your crotchfruit have even the slightest appearance of being incorrigible shiatheads, and if so, donate away.


So you didn't read the part where the OP said she has no kids.
 
2022-05-23 9:40:17 AM  

EasilyDistracted: koder: Just check if your crotchfruit have even the slightest appearance of being incorrigible shiatheads, and if so, donate away.

So you didn't read the part where the OP said she has no kids.


Also, she's actually not a she, it's a man. Hence the term 'widower' rather than widow.

/ reading comprehension is hard
// welcome to fark
 
2022-05-23 9:56:58 AM  
No one is entitled to inheritance.  No one is entitled to being included in anyone else's will.  There are no exceptions.

A person is free to leave the assets of their estate to whoever they wish, for whatever reason they wish (or for no reason at all).
 
2022-05-23 9:57:22 AM  
I think leaving the money to a local shelter is a noble thing to do.  Especially one you have dealt with multiple times, and have adopted pets from.  I adopted my cat from a small rescue group and they help pets with medical problems that would normally be euthanized.  They have found homes for countless pets.  I know if my cat had some terrible illness that I could not afford to treat, they would help me.  I wish I had money to leave them.
 
2022-05-23 10:01:29 AM  
It's your money, if you want to burn it in your fireplace, you have every right to do so.

The friend should butt out.
 
2022-05-23 10:17:57 AM  
Yes, it is.  My wife typically donates to human-based charities (feeding the poor, Planned Parenthood, etc.), but I've long donated to environmental causes instead.

It's your money.  Do whatever you want with it.
 
2022-05-23 10:55:48 AM  
Heart disease research?  Nah.

Cancer research?  Nope.

Digging a well in Africa?  No way.

Buying a cat a yacht?  Now we're talking!
 
2022-05-23 11:05:04 AM  
sure.  it's a silly thing to do but you do you.
 
2022-05-23 11:22:07 AM  
Sure, it's your money and you can do whatever you want with it.
 
2022-05-23 11:38:02 AM  
As long as the charity performs well, spend wisely, works with minimal costs and don't act like arsewipes, yes.

Here in the UK, after seeing the RSPCA spend millions in courts fighting will bequests where the person donating had sadistic ways that would result in making caring family members destitute, I wouldn't give to them if they gave away kittens and puppies.  They are run by people who love animals but forgot how to be compassionate to the bereaved.
 
2022-05-23 12:02:13 PM  

aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.


Tell the friend that "Whataboutism" is a terrible disease that can be ended in our lifetimes
 
2022-05-23 12:05:35 PM  
People's concepts of what constitutes a large amount of money is all over the place. Some people would kill you for $10,000 in insurance money. Others will see a measly $2,500,000 estate as pathetic. Give your money to whoever you want. It's your money and you, and you alone, get to decide.
 
2022-05-23 12:49:32 PM  

eurotrader: aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.

A number of smaller nonprofits organization have a much better rate of spending on the care of animals than larger ones that spend more on advertising than direct to animal care. Meeting guidestar or charity navigator reporting allows some confidence in spending on cause.


I'm somewhat curious as to how well an organization remains effective when their endowment suddenly changes.  I'd expect sharks to begin circling and people trying to get their hands on it.
 
2022-05-23 1:03:43 PM  

Petite Mel: aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.

When my son was young, and nuts about guinea pigs (he still is at 26), we were at a church event. He mentioned to our priest that he wanted to volunteer at a guinea pig rescue. The priest just started ranting about people helping animals when there are so many people in need. Did he not read the bible?
Yeah, not a good day for the church. My kid ignored his ravings.


OTOH, one time I was at my church in roughly 2008 and someone told us that this one charity group was holding their annual online vote to determine which
 
2022-05-23 1:06:54 PM  

Fireproof: Petite Mel: aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.

When my son was young, and nuts about guinea pigs (he still is at 26), we were at a church event. He mentioned to our priest that he wanted to volunteer at a guinea pig rescue. The priest just started ranting about people helping animals when there are so many people in need. Did he not read the bible?
Yeah, not a good day for the church. My kid ignored his ravings.

OTOH, one time I was at my church in roughly 2008 and someone told us that this one charity group was holding their annual online vote to determine which


Dammit, hit the button accidentally.

...to determine which of several Hurricane Katrina-related charities would receive a large donation from them this year. And could we please vote for this one because the same animal-focused charity had won ever year since the storm, and perhaps our fellow humans need help as well.
 
2022-05-23 1:30:19 PM  

Russ1642: Others will see a measly $2,500,000 estate as pathetic.


Five million is a nightmare. 
5 Million Dollars is Nothing - Succession
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2022-05-23 1:38:10 PM  
You do you. Your friend should STFU.

Personally prefer giving it out while I'm still alive. I'm one of the weirdos that give out sizeable cash tips to waitstaff, musicians at dive bars, street artists and performers. It's the ultimate form of supporting individuals directly and somewhat anonymously.

/gifting TF is also a thing
 
2022-05-23 1:49:40 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: eurotrader: aleister_greynight: Nonetheless, a friend of mine is horrified at my plan, arguing that a large donation to a tiny organization is not only ridiculous, but even immoral, given other needs in the world.

Your "friend" is an asshole, and you should tell them to sincerely mind their own farking business or FOAD.

A number of smaller nonprofits organization have a much better rate of spending on the care of animals than larger ones that spend more on advertising than direct to animal care. Meeting guidestar or charity navigator reporting allows some confidence in spending on cause.

I'm somewhat curious as to how well an organization remains effective when their endowment suddenly changes.  I'd expect sharks to begin circling and people trying to get their hands on it.


It really depends on the people running it. There are good ethical,moral  and honest people the problem comes from a portion of the US called republicans that believe if money or power is involved ethics and morals can be ignored.
Goes back to the idea that there is good and evil people in the world and evil people simply can't grasp the ideal of altruism.
 
2022-05-23 1:58:52 PM  
Yes it is just fine to do so , though i have to say it is possible your nieces and nephews may try to contest the will depending on the sort  of people they are and if they have any clue about the previous version of the will.

I suspect your "friend" was hoping for a chunk of your estate if they outlived you.

While in this day and age $2.5 million is not the massive chunk of money it was decades ago it will still go along ways for the animal rescue in question.
 
2022-05-23 2:01:28 PM  

grimlock1972: Yes it is just fine to do so , though i have to say it is possible your nieces and nephews may try to contest the will depending on the sort  of people they are and if they have any clue about the previous version of the will.

I suspect your "friend" was hoping for a chunk of your estate if they outlived you.

While in this day and age $2.5 million is not the massive chunk of money it was decades ago it will still go along ways for the animal rescue in question.


Addendum:   while this is not an edit , i do wish to add it would be wise to keep an eye on the animal rescue to make it sure it stays what it currently seems to be  which is to say a proper animal rescue run by good people and to be in a position to make further changes to your will if something happens with the animal rescue that makes you feel uncomfortable giving them your estate.
 
2022-05-23 2:13:02 PM  
It better be, because that's what my wife and I are going to do.
 
2022-05-23 2:14:00 PM  

CFitzsimmons: Is it a registered charity?


is the Band On The Run ?
 
2022-05-23 2:17:25 PM  

tom baker's scarf: sure.  it's a silly thing to do but you do you.


How is rescuing animals silly?
 
2022-05-23 2:32:27 PM  

LL316: tom baker's scarf: sure.  it's a silly thing to do but you do you.

How is rescuing animals silly?


The smart money is in funding direct action groups.  Why spend a few hundred dollars "rescuing" 10 dogs when you could shut down a puppy mill and "rescue" thousands of dogs that were never born into shiat conditions?  An ounce of prevention and all that.  For all we know Big Puppy just pumps out extra dogs so they can rake in the profits setting up rescue organizations.
 
2022-05-23 3:26:26 PM  
You can do whatever you like with your money, and hopefully it goes towards helping animals in need. That said, people who care about the suffering of animals more than the suffering of people trip me out.
 
2022-05-23 4:22:45 PM  
Hot Girls Walking Your Dog, LLP
 
2022-05-23 4:29:47 PM  
Yes, do it.  I'm going to leave my house to wolves.  It will serve my neighbors right.
 
2022-05-23 5:30:18 PM  

RogermcAllen: LL316: tom baker's scarf: sure.  it's a silly thing to do but you do you.

How is rescuing animals silly?

The smart money is in funding direct action groups.  Why spend a few hundred dollars "rescuing" 10 dogs when you could shut down a puppy mill and "rescue" thousands of dogs that were never born into shiat conditions?  An ounce of prevention and all that.  For all we know Big Puppy just pumps out extra dogs so they can rake in the profits setting up rescue organizations.


Yes. It's not silly and it's needed, but it's not necessarily the best place to focus. I am a fan of the Flatbush Cats youtube channel, and while they do rescue/fostering and that's what gets views, they are very clear that their real mission is TNR and making it easy/cheap to spay/neuter pets to reduce the number of cats that end up on the street in the first place.
 
2022-05-23 5:45:39 PM  
What about furry charities?
 
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