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(CNN)   Wait, what's this? A conservative government leader is defeated at the ballot box, gracefully accepts the results, and resigns with dignity? What the hell's wrong with politics in Australia?   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-05-21 12:58:02 PM  
And all it took was tackling a kid
Moment Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison accidentally floors child in football tackle
Youtube xIBkz1x_hzI
 
2022-05-21 3:21:29 PM  
I'm going to go with "they don't have the GOP"...
 
2022-05-21 3:23:09 PM  
We just need a vote-in-your-swimsuit campaign to help get out the vote.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/why-aussies-are-voting-on-election-day-with-no-pants-on/news-story/02f376617dbeb1e1fdc7b6c032bf7cc2

Then again...America...red states...speedos...*shudder*
 
2022-05-21 3:23:52 PM  
They're not a banana republic?
 
2022-05-21 3:29:24 PM  

sillydragon: I'm going to go with "they don't have the GOP"...


But they are the originator of NewsCorp
 
2022-05-21 3:38:34 PM  
They actually have a left/right political paradigm.
 
2022-05-21 3:39:16 PM  
When "The Liberal Party" is your right wing party....
 
2022-05-21 3:42:02 PM  

alechemist: And all it took was tackling a kid[YouTube video: Moment Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison accidentally floors child in football tackle]


That really isn't a difficult feat. I find it's much more challenging if you first strip them to their underwear and grease them up or oil them
 
mjg
2022-05-21 3:42:12 PM  
Trying to show-up their Swiss neighbors I guess
 
2022-05-21 3:45:25 PM  

alechemist: And all it took was tackling a kid[YouTube video: Moment Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison accidentally floors child in football tackle]


Keep your head up. They teach you that in hockey and it's just good advice.
 
2022-05-21 3:54:21 PM  
No offence, but the whole world is watching with a shudder at the US ripping itself apart. We are all generally worried about what will happen if the fascists take over. I was born there so I know that three fourths of people won't stand for it, fascism may arrive but it won't stay. It's extremely hard to get a formerly free population u dear the jackboot. Don't pay attention to the noise they're making in Hungary and Russia. They have never known freedom.

Having said that, kicking fascism out is going to be extremely messy. The fascists are going to do as much damage as they can. Kicking them out will be done, It's probably not going to be done peacefully.

Canadians are genuinely worried that if America turns full fascist and they decide to attack Canada we feel very vulnerable and Mexico feels the same, Australia has ceased admiring the US and they just shake their heads and now view America as a bad example of how NOT to handle things. I'm sure the instability in the US helped defeat the conservatives ( as well as the nutty PM)

The world is getting mighty tired of fascism, inequality and conservatism's complete indifference to suffering and the world being a big playground for a handful of billionaires. Just this weekend they want to get together and get really stoned (no, really).

One by one we must push back. This is a good start. Good job, Australia!
 
2022-05-21 3:58:35 PM  

New Rising Sun: We just need a vote-in-your-swimsuit campaign to help get out the vote.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/why-aussies-are-voting-on-election-day-with-no-pants-on/news-story/02f376617dbeb1e1fdc7b6c032bf7cc2

Then again...America...red states...speedos...*shudder*


Didn't a pm disappear and presumably drown whilst swimming?
 
2022-05-21 4:36:50 PM  

sillydragon: I'm going to go with "they don't have the GOP"...


Do you mean the party formerly known as the GOP ... before Trump's hostile takeover?
 
2022-05-21 4:45:40 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: New Rising Sun: We just need a vote-in-your-swimsuit campaign to help get out the vote.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/why-aussies-are-voting-on-election-day-with-no-pants-on/news-story/02f376617dbeb1e1fdc7b6c032bf7cc2

Then again...America...red states...speedos...*shudder*

Didn't a pm disappear and presumably drown whilst swimming?


Yes, and not only that, they then named a community swimming pool after them.
 
2022-05-21 4:47:16 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: When "The Liberal Party" is your right wing party....


yes, 'classical liberal' outisde america just means fascist without the guts to call themselves what they are.
 
2022-05-21 5:07:42 PM  
Good. Australia is one of the places I'm looking at moving to if I decide to flee the US.
 
2022-05-21 5:43:08 PM  
Nice farking try, Conservative Submitter. MSN News is already flooding my feeds with how the new Labour PM is already facing tests that are destablizing the new government. MSN is going directly to toppling the new PM before lunch on their first day. So as for graceful acceptance, GFY.
 
2022-05-21 5:56:22 PM  
From ScoMo to AnAl...
 
2022-05-21 6:09:44 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: Nice farking try, Conservative Submitter. MSN News is already flooding my feeds with how the new Labour PM is already facing tests that are destablizing the new government. MSN is going directly to toppling the new PM before lunch on their first day. So as for graceful acceptance, GFY.


How do you destabilise a government that doesn't technically exist yet? That takes some effort.
 
2022-05-21 6:10:25 PM  
This is a good summary of exactly what happened during the election.  Pay special attention to 3:00, every one of those candidates got voted in.

Honest Government Ad | Hung Parliament
Youtube rnzaiYrvvrw
 
2022-05-21 6:11:19 PM  

The Southern Dandy: They're not a banana republic?


But they are apparently a banana hammock republic
 
2022-05-21 6:23:56 PM  

Astorix: No offence, but the whole world is watching with a shudder at the US ripping itself apart. We are all generally worried about what will happen if the fascists take over. I was born there so I know that three fourths of people won't stand for it, fascism may arrive but it won't stay. It's extremely hard to get a formerly free population u dear the jackboot. Don't pay attention to the noise they're making in Hungary and Russia. They have never known freedom.

Having said that, kicking fascism out is going to be extremely messy. The fascists are going to do as much damage as they can. Kicking them out will be done, It's probably not going to be done peacefully.


As an outsider I agree. The USA literally had a sitting POTUS attempt a coup to overturn the election result and stay in power, and well over a year later he's not in jail and even has a serious chance of standing at the next election and even winning. Not to mention Congress refusing to consider a supreme court appointment on BS reasons, the supreme court overturning Roe v Wade and a bunch of states criminalising abortions and looking to move on to contraception, voting rights being restricted and so on.

/Here our big scandal is our PM had a beer at work.
 
2022-05-21 6:38:40 PM  

JAYoung: sillydragon: I'm going to go with "they don't have the GOP"...

Do you mean the party formerly known as the GOP ... before Trump's hostile takeover?


Trump didn't hijack anything, he just taught them that they didn't need to hide behind dog whistles anymore.
 
2022-05-21 7:07:12 PM  
Wait - so the last 9 yrs were with Conservatives in charge?  Conservatives with national health care, affordable housing programs and a gun ban?

Can... can we get some of those conservatives?  I might even vote for one.

/LOL no
 
2022-05-21 7:17:25 PM  

stuartp9: This is a good summary of exactly what happened during the election.  Pay special attention to 3:00, every one of those candidates got voted in.

[YouTube video: Honest Government Ad | Hung Parliament]


It's been a great night for the progressive and centrist right, and the environmentalist movement in general.
 
2022-05-21 7:23:46 PM  

patowen: Wait - so the last 9 yrs were with Conservatives in charge?  Conservatives with national health care, affordable housing programs and a gun ban?

Can... can we get some of those conservatives?  I might even vote for one.

/LOL no


The conservatives actually came up with the gun ban in 1996. It's one of the celebrated achievements of the Howard government and it's celebrated by Howard's biggest fans .... the Murdoch media! It was mildly controversial at the time and not at all now. Guns were never mentioned by anyone significant at this election.

The single payer healthcare scheme Medicare was introduced by a Labor government in 1983. The conservatives promised to get rid of Medicare at every subsequent election until 1996, because they'd lost all of those elections and were sick of getting their arses kicked. So they promised to keep it, and got elected. Now they claim to love it and when Labor says the conservatives want to cut it back, they get told off by .... the Murdoch media! "We love Medicare and don't listen to those naughtie lefties who say otherwise".

If a US politician jumped up and said we should ban most semi-auto weapons, have registration for all gun owners, and we should have single-payer public health care while we're at it, they'd be called communists ... by the Murdoch media!

/we don't have affordable housing though, that just sounds like a sound bite from somewhere.
 
2022-05-21 7:29:55 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: When "The Liberal Party" is your right wing party....


The Liberal Party is a centre-right party, its constituency is centrist moderate liberals to some pretty hard core conservatives.

Their main opposition is the Australian Labor Party. I believe our Labor Party was the world's first Labor Party, it was founded as the politicai arm of the trade union movement. It, like unions, is a collectivist organisation, hence not liberal.

Americans have a weird definition of the word liberal, it's not us. Americans seem to think liberal means somehow left of the political centre, it doesn't.
 
2022-05-21 7:30:28 PM  

patowen: Wait - so the last 9 yrs were with Conservatives in charge?  Conservatives with national health care, affordable housing programs and a gun ban?

Can... can we get some of those conservatives?  I might even vote for one.

/LOL no


conservatives that will literally burn every gram of coal they can find because money and fark the environment.
 
2022-05-21 7:49:39 PM  

patowen: Wait - so the last 9 yrs were with Conservatives in charge?  Conservatives with national health care, affordable housing programs and a gun ban?

Can... can we get some of those conservatives?  I might even vote for one.

/LOL no


Like the UK? Where this Conservative government has increased NHS funding, praised them to the skies during the pandemic, is taking steps to help with affordable housing, like taxes on buy to let and second homes that stay empty etc. Even the so called "Bedroom Tax" was to help with social housing availability but they just got slammed for it.
And it was the Conservatives who banned all handguns in 1996 after Dunblane. BBC ON THIS DAY | 16 | 1996: Handguns to be banned in the UK, and have no issue with abortion rights, birth control etc.

Our Conservatives also legalised gay marriage, and have the most out gay MPs in Parliament and the only trans MP.

UK Conservatives are not the same as US Republicans.
 
2022-05-21 7:49:56 PM  
We don't have that. Deal with it. You have to fight the neo-Nazi GOP harder.

Ifs, buts, candy, nuts? Not a one will save us from the psychos on the other side of the aisle. WORK. HARDER.

/representatives have to be productive in a constitutionally-defined democratically elected representative government?
//jesus! how on earth was the democratic party supposed to have known about that arcane peculiarity??
///what's next? electoral votes determining the winner of the presidential election?? BUT WE DON'T LIKE THAT
//oh, the FEEEEEEEELS
/*sobbing endless slashies* nooooo, why are the rules different from that which we dream of?? noooo
 
2022-05-21 7:51:50 PM  
Also, our Conservatives have been taking huge steps with climate change. Petrol and diesel car sales will end in 2030, eight years away, solar and wind growth has been huge, in the last decade we've gone from last place in Europe in solar to third place. Which isn't bad considering our weather.
 
2022-05-21 7:57:29 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Also, our Conservatives have been taking huge steps with climate change. Petrol and diesel car sales will end in 2030, eight years away, solar and wind growth has been huge, in the last decade we've gone from last place in Europe in solar to third place. Which isn't bad considering our weather.


Yes, BoJo tried to warn ScoMo about Australia's climate policies, was derided by the Murdoch media here for his troubles. Climate policies were definitely the big issue this election, even though in many ways that only became clear as the vote counting proceeded. Labor made climate a much bigger issue at the last election in 2019 and copped an unexpected loss for their troubles.
 
2022-05-21 8:06:31 PM  
Stepping aside and conceding gracefully when you lose an election is not praiseworthy. It's just the minimum acceptable baseline for civilized behavior in a democracy. Anyone who does not meet that standard is a traitorous criminal and enemy of humanity. It's not a high bar or something we should be singling out as praiseworthy. Instead, failing to do so should be met with universal condemnation.
 
2022-05-21 8:16:35 PM  
It's because our elections are run by a truly independent electoral commission who just about everyone trusts. The elections are completely impartial, the boundaries of the electoral districts are drawn by them and not by politicians, they run elections where it is incredibly easy to vote in person no matter where you are and to obtain postal votes if necessary.

And - and this is the really important one - we have compulsory voting. The participation rate is typically about 95% of voters.

There is absolutely no doubt about the results.
 
2022-05-21 8:20:56 PM  
The real fun is Dutton is now expected to become their new leader, and this will render them unelectable for the foreseeable future. How the Liberal Party thinks Voldemort is a feasible option is beyond me. When he attempts to smile it only makes him even more horrifying somehow.
 
2022-05-21 8:25:27 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: New Rising Sun: We just need a vote-in-your-swimsuit campaign to help get out the vote.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/why-aussies-are-voting-on-election-day-with-no-pants-on/news-story/02f376617dbeb1e1fdc7b6c032bf7cc2

Then again...America...red states...speedos...*shudder*

Didn't a pm disappear and presumably drown whilst swimming?


Ahem - I think you mean "Wasn't a pm spirited away by a Chinese submarine whilst 'swimming'?"
 
2022-05-21 8:25:58 PM  

englaja: hoodiowithtudio: New Rising Sun: We just need a vote-in-your-swimsuit campaign to help get out the vote.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/why-aussies-are-voting-on-election-day-with-no-pants-on/news-story/02f376617dbeb1e1fdc7b6c032bf7cc2

Then again...America...red states...speedos...*shudder*

Didn't a pm disappear and presumably drown whilst swimming?

Yes, and not only that, they then named a community swimming pool after them.


*Him*
 
2022-05-21 8:47:00 PM  

Mnemia: Stepping aside and conceding gracefully when you lose an election is not praiseworthy. It's just the minimum acceptable baseline for civilized behavior in a democracy. Anyone who does not meet that standard is a traitorous criminal and enemy of humanity. It's not a high bar or something we should be singling out as praiseworthy. Instead, failing to do so should be met with universal condemnation.


True, it was just unexpected because as soon as you say "right wing" people associate it with petulant men-children like Trump yelling "fake news" "stolen election" and "I won" to justify their ego hit.

In Australia that kind of behaviour gets you laughed at at best, and if you persist, your manners are corrected in the pub car park with a swift smack across the chops. No matter who you are. What's worrying is there's one in 12 Australians who support that Trumpist and fascist conspiracy theory bullshiat through the PHON and UAP parties, and we need to nip that in the bud quickly before it metastatises.
 
2022-05-21 8:50:12 PM  

englaja: Mnemia: Stepping aside and conceding gracefully when you lose an election is not praiseworthy. It's just the minimum acceptable baseline for civilized behavior in a democracy. Anyone who does not meet that standard is a traitorous criminal and enemy of humanity. It's not a high bar or something we should be singling out as praiseworthy. Instead, failing to do so should be met with universal condemnation.

True, it was just unexpected because as soon as you say "right wing" people associate it with petulant men-children like Trump yelling "fake news" "stolen election" and "I won" to justify their ego hit.

In Australia that kind of behaviour gets you laughed at at best, and if you persist, your manners are corrected in the pub car park with a swift smack across the chops. No matter who you are. What's worrying is there's one in 12 Australians who support that Trumpist and fascist conspiracy theory bullshiat through the PHON and UAP parties, and we need to nip that in the bud quickly before it metastatises.


Eggboy, who pelted some australian nazi politician in the head with an egg after the guy said the terrorist attack in NZ was justified was a hero for a while.
 
2022-05-21 8:58:30 PM  

Aussie_As: Carter Pewterschmidt: Also, our Conservatives have been taking huge steps with climate change. Petrol and diesel car sales will end in 2030, eight years away, solar and wind growth has been huge, in the last decade we've gone from last place in Europe in solar to third place. Which isn't bad considering our weather.

Yes, BoJo tried to warn ScoMo about Australia's climate policies, was derided by the Murdoch media here for his troubles. Climate policies were definitely the big issue this election, even though in many ways that only became clear as the vote counting proceeded. Labor made climate a much bigger issue at the last election in 2019 and copped an unexpected loss for their troubles.


I wasn't aware of that. Looks like that was part of the Aus/UK trade deal. Scott Morrison softened his defiant language on climate change action amid UK trade deal | Australian foreign policy | The Guardian

I'd have thought Australia would be well suited for solar and wind power. Here we have plans to build a huge solar farm in Morocco with a cable running undersea directly to the UK. You have the entire outback to place solar panels. I'd have thought there would be plenty of space without ruining the outback environment.
 
2022-05-21 9:15:54 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: I'd have thought Australia would be well suited for solar and wind power. Here we have plans to build a huge solar farm in Morocco with a cable running undersea directly to the UK. You have the entire outback to place solar panels. I'd have thought there would be plenty of space without ruining the outback environment.


We have some, and renewable electricity generation is up to about 24 per cent now according to Google. We have solar farms, the largest is at Tennant Creek which is certainly outback. We also have a scheme launched by Malcolm Turnbull to use renewable energy to pump water uphill back into the Snowy River hydroelectric plant, making it effectively a huge battery. Wind power took off here about 20 years ago, although I'm not aware of much by way of new projects in that area.

Our conservative politics have held back renewable energy, Malcolm Turnbull lost his job as Liberal Party leader twice (once in opposition, then as PM in no small part due to his support for renewables), hopefully that's changing now.

Most new houses have solar panels, also many older houses are fitted with them too, you see a lot of them all over suburbia here.
 
2022-05-21 9:26:09 PM  

englaja: Mnemia: Stepping aside and conceding gracefully when you lose an election is not praiseworthy. It's just the minimum acceptable baseline for civilized behavior in a democracy. Anyone who does not meet that standard is a traitorous criminal and enemy of humanity. It's not a high bar or something we should be singling out as praiseworthy. Instead, failing to do so should be met with universal condemnation.

True, it was just unexpected because as soon as you say "right wing" people associate it with petulant men-children like Trump yelling "fake news" "stolen election" and "I won" to justify their ego hit.

In Australia that kind of behaviour gets you laughed at at best, and if you persist, your manners are corrected in the pub car park with a swift smack across the chops. No matter who you are. What's worrying is there's one in 12 Australians who support that Trumpist and fascist conspiracy theory bullshiat through the PHON and UAP parties, and we need to nip that in the bud quickly before it metastatises.


Yeah, just wanted to point out that despite the horrible fascist behavior of people like Trump, that sort of thing cannot be allowed to become normalized as the new "standard". There needs to be zero tolerance in all democracies for anyone who refuses to accept the will of the people when they lose and take their loss like an adult. Politicians like Trump are a genuine threat to the world order and should be at a minimum persona non grata and preferably thrown in prison for the rest of their miserable lives. Offenses against the institutions of democracy are serious crimes against every single person living under those institutions, even those who support said criminals. And should be treated as such.

I don't think you guys in Australia quite have the problem on your hands that we do here in the States at this point in time, but I would just say to remain vigilant. Nowhere is immune to fascism and the same forces that are work in the US are at work everywhere to some degree or another. I think our biggest problem here is a huge erosion of faith in institutions and norms, coupled with an archaic constitution and political system that both allows rule from the minority and also invests enormously inflated powers in the single person of the presidency. There is a strong minority that supports fascism everywhere, but here our broken system allows them to seize a lot more power than they would otherwise be able to given their numbers.
 
2022-05-21 10:02:47 PM  

Aussie_As: Carter Pewterschmidt: I'd have thought Australia would be well suited for solar and wind power. Here we have plans to build a huge solar farm in Morocco with a cable running undersea directly to the UK. You have the entire outback to place solar panels. I'd have thought there would be plenty of space without ruining the outback environment.

We have some, and renewable electricity generation is up to about 24 per cent now according to Google. We have solar farms, the largest is at Tennant Creek which is certainly outback. We also have a scheme launched by Malcolm Turnbull to use renewable energy to pump water uphill back into the Snowy River hydroelectric plant, making it effectively a huge battery. Wind power took off here about 20 years ago, although I'm not aware of much by way of new projects in that area.

Our conservative politics have held back renewable energy, Malcolm Turnbull lost his job as Liberal Party leader twice (once in opposition, then as PM in no small part due to his support for renewables), hopefully that's changing now.

Most new houses have solar panels, also many older houses are fitted with them too, you see a lot of them all over suburbia here.


We have a big pumped hydro station in Wales, Dinorwig Power Station - Wikipedia, which is mainly used for fast response to surges. But yeah, if solar can work in the UK with our weather it should be a no brainer in Australia.
 
2022-05-21 10:31:15 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Aussie_As: Carter Pewterschmidt: Also, our Conservatives have been taking huge steps with climate change. Petrol and diesel car sales will end in 2030, eight years away, solar and wind growth has been huge, in the last decade we've gone from last place in Europe in solar to third place. Which isn't bad considering our weather.

Yes, BoJo tried to warn ScoMo about Australia's climate policies, was derided by the Murdoch media here for his troubles. Climate policies were definitely the big issue this election, even though in many ways that only became clear as the vote counting proceeded. Labor made climate a much bigger issue at the last election in 2019 and copped an unexpected loss for their troubles.

I wasn't aware of that. Looks like that was part of the Aus/UK trade deal. Scott Morrison softened his defiant language on climate change action amid UK trade deal | Australian foreign policy | The Guardian

I'd have thought Australia would be well suited for solar and wind power. Here we have plans to build a huge solar farm in Morocco with a cable running undersea directly to the UK. You have the entire outback to place solar panels. I'd have thought there would be plenty of space without ruining the outback environment.


Australia getting rid of coal would break Sydney/NSW as the richest part of Australia, similar to what would happen to the UK if London git rid of its fiscal industry.

Look at Australia in this light.
 
2022-05-21 11:19:47 PM  

Aussie_As: OtherLittleGuy: When "The Liberal Party" is your right wing party....

The Liberal Party is a centre-right party, its constituency is centrist moderate liberals to some pretty hard core conservatives.

Their main opposition is the Australian Labor Party. I believe our Labor Party was the world's first Labor Party, it was founded as the politicai arm of the trade union movement. It, like unions, is a collectivist organisation, hence not liberal.

Americans have a weird definition of the word liberal, it's not us. Americans seem to think liberal means somehow left of the political centre, it doesn't.


You have to go back to the basic definitions of the words "liberal" and "conservative". Liberal meaning permissive, conservative meaning restrictive.

Unqualified, "liberal" tends to mean socially liberal these days, and "conservative" socially conservative. But there's also the concept of economic liberalism, i.e. classical liberalism/neoliberalism/libertarianism, which is basically letting rich people do whatever they want and fark the peons.

It's not wrong to say, for example, that the US has liberal gun laws, and that tends to be a thing that right wingers in the US like, it's just that the original meanings of the words have kind of devolved and just become like team names.
 
2022-05-22 12:44:26 AM  
Congrats.
 
2022-05-22 1:09:48 AM  

El Rich-o: englaja: hoodiowithtudio: New Rising Sun: We just need a vote-in-your-swimsuit campaign to help get out the vote.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/why-aussies-are-voting-on-election-day-with-no-pants-on/news-story/02f376617dbeb1e1fdc7b6c032bf7cc2

Then again...America...red states...speedos...*shudder*

Didn't a pm disappear and presumably drown whilst swimming?

Yes, and not only that, they then named a community swimming pool after them.

*Him*


Harold Holt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Harold_Holt
 
2022-05-22 2:28:02 AM  
Carter Pewterschmidt:

UK Conservatives are not the same as US Republicans.

Not for lack of trying.
 
2022-05-22 6:40:42 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: When "The Liberal Party" is your right wing party....


Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party will really blow your mind
 
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