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(Law and Crime)   Two charged in case of man who was Tased while in puddle of gasoline, the Deputy who Tased him and the man who got Tased. Bonus sheriff says no need to refer case to another authority as the police are quite capable of investigating themselves   (lawandcrime.com) divider line
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2022-05-20 12:35:31 PM  
Does anyone still think we have a functional country?
Anyone at all?
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Didn't think so.
 
2022-05-20 2:02:11 PM  
Every now and then, despite all our jokes, and posting the meme about the C+ students, something breaks through to remind you:

Cops are REALLY farking stupid.  And we give these morons guns and "less lethal devices" and are then surprised when some bumpkin lights a man on fire by not understanding gas, vapors, and electricity.
 
2022-05-20 2:02:36 PM  
Is the County currently paying multi million dollar settlements to anyone else at this time?
 
2022-05-20 2:06:29 PM  
we have an amazing amount of people that require adult supervision
 
2022-05-20 2:06:39 PM  

Weaver95: Does anyone still think we have a functional country?
Anyone at all?
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Didn't think so.


Depends, how much have ya got?
 
2022-05-20 2:07:12 PM  
3rd degree burns over 75% of his body?
That's not very survivable.
 
2022-05-20 2:07:51 PM  
Neither NeJame Law nor the Osceola County Sheriff's Office didn't immediately responded to Law&Crime's request for comment.

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2022-05-20 2:09:25 PM  

Ty Webb: Neither NeJame Law nor the Osceola County Sheriff's Office didn't immediately responded to Law&Crime's request for comment.

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There was no room for editors in the yearly budget.
 
2022-05-20 2:10:34 PM  
As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?
 
2022-05-20 2:17:36 PM  
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2584783/Video-Man-covered-sanitizer-set-ablaze-police-taser.html

/ all the youtube versions are age restricted
// but he didn't die of covid
 
2022-05-20 2:23:00 PM  

Weaver95: Does anyone still think we have a functional country?
Anyone at all?
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Didn't think so.


Functional, yes. But it depends on your definition of functioning.

You know what song popped into my head yesterday? Public Enemy's Can't Truss It, specifically the beginning.

It all started with slave ships. *Terminator X vinyl scratching* SLAVE SHIPS

Watch this video and you'll see it's been functioning the same for a very long term. Officer == Overseer.

A king or chief probably had a big beef, because of that now I grit my teeth!

Public Enemy - Can't Truss It
Youtube am9BqZ6eA5c
 
2022-05-20 2:23:18 PM  

The Irrelevant Gamer: As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?


Came here to say this.
 
2022-05-20 2:27:40 PM  
Barreto is maimed for life for allegedly mopeding while dumb. If anything happened with any other vehicle, be would be very, very dead.

This, "ZERO TOLERANCE! WE'LL CHASE YOU INTO THE NEXT COUNTY" reeks of douchebro cop mentality. The DA has probably already dropped the charges, and this is a publicity stunt.

I hope his family sues them into oblivion. That was reckless endangerment, and if he dies, I hope to see manslaughter 2 or some equivalent.

/Farking morons. Can't tie their own damn shoes, but we give them guns and tasers and Authoriteh.
 
2022-05-20 2:31:22 PM  
The Puddle wasn't there until he was Tased thereby forcing him to urinate the gasoline he'd drank earlier in the day, after filling his tank and not having a state-certified container to carry flammable liquids in -- the state must acquit!
 
2022-05-20 2:31:43 PM  

Ty Webb: Neither NeJame Law nor the Osceola County Sheriff's Office didn't immediately responded to Law&Crime's request for comment.

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The use of double negatives in "them thar parts" is as common as the use of double-barreled first names

Might be a side effect of mating with 1st cousins
 
2022-05-20 2:34:57 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2584783/Video-Man-covered-sanitizer-set-ablaze-police-taser.html

/ all the youtube versions are age restricted
// but he didn't die of covid


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/140 proof
 
2022-05-20 3:00:14 PM  

The Irrelevant Gamer: As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?


Yep, rather than letting a motorcyclist go (discontinue pursuit because traffic accidents can be dangerous or fatal), they had to get him for the unbelievably serious crime of RUNNING A RED LIGHT! Not a felony pursuit, but a pursuit to issue a traffic citation!
 
2022-05-20 3:05:28 PM  

The Irrelevant Gamer: As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?


Yep. I've seen the full video from the helicopter. They charged him with reckless driving - which he most certainly was doing - and also "resisting arrest without violence, and fleeing", but both of those are clearly false. He was sitting on his bike at the pump when the police first show up. One of them tackles him, the next tases him and sets him on fire, and then he staggers out of the flames and collapses. Where's the "fleeing"? Where's the resisting arrest? And wtf is resisting arrest without violence? Saying "nuh uh" to a cop?
 
2022-05-20 3:07:02 PM  

mrmopar5287: The Irrelevant Gamer: As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?

Yep, rather than letting a motorcyclist go (discontinue pursuit because traffic accidents can be dangerous or fatal), they had to get him for the unbelievably serious crime of RUNNING A RED LIGHT! Not a felony pursuit, but a pursuit to issue a traffic citation!


I mean, he was driving into oncoming traffic, doing wheelies on the highway... Not just "running a red light".
 
2022-05-20 3:09:07 PM  

The Irrelevant Gamer: As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?


I don't know the timeline of the surveillance camera release and who released it, if it wasn't the Sheriff's Office, but the Sheriff's Office made a pretty compelling case yesterday that this was a dangerous suspect. Obviously not deserving of being set on fire, but that seems to have been an accident, as evidenced by two deputies being set on fire as well. The Tasing deputy should have known better, clearly, and the culpable negligence charge reflects that, but it doesn't mean he caused the fire on purpose.

I don't know what Barreto was charged with, but helicopter footage shows him making multiple moving violations, including what I'd describe as driving recklessly. Being nearly killed by police doesn't undo that. If and when he recovers, I expect a judge would factor his injuries into sentencing, and I think jail time should be off the table, but so should his driving privileges.

The gun brandishing issue, which seemed to have made the police response more aggressive, sounded quite credible on the 911 call. Not that Barreto was necessarily the one brandishing (odds are he wasn't, if it happened at all), or that police had any idea who was, but it seems like he was part of the group of cyclists that was suspected of doing this, and police only had one helicopter with which to track one bike from the air, which was his. He was followed from the time a dozen or so cyclists were driving recklessly, and when he went off on his own, he continued driving recklessly. The helicopter footage is essentially continuous from the group driving to the police confrontation at the gas station, so this doesn't seem to be a case of getting an innocent bystander.

This article has a link to a video of the Sheriff's press conference, which includes audio and video recordings. I think it's hosted by Facebook.
 
2022-05-20 3:15:54 PM  

Theaetetus: The Irrelevant Gamer: As of the earlier story, they hadn't charged Barreto with anything. Does anyone else get the feeling they had a rethink about dropping charges against him when the video went public, and they realized they needed to make it look like Deputy Dumbass set a dangerous suspect on fire instead of a random civilian in order to soften the blow against the sheriff's department?

Yep. I've seen the full video from the helicopter. They charged him with reckless driving - which he most certainly was doing - and also "resisting arrest without violence, and fleeing", but both of those are clearly false. He was sitting on his bike at the pump when the police first show up. One of them tackles him, the next tases him and sets him on fire, and then he staggers out of the flames and collapses. Where's the "fleeing"? Where's the resisting arrest? And wtf is resisting arrest without violence? Saying "nuh uh" to a cop?


I think the "fleeing" part was the part where he tried to move away from the flames.

Not sure about the whole "resisting arrest without violence" thing, though. Unless they decided that "being on fire" or even the more general "having a medical emergency" somehow counts as resisting arrest.
 
2022-05-20 3:17:17 PM  
1. If you're going to ride with a motorcycle group, don't aim guns at other drivers.
2. If you MUST ride with a motorcycle group and aim guns at other drivers, be compliant with law enforcement officer instructions.
3. If you MUST be non-compliant with law enforcement officer instructions, do not do so if you are standing amongst gasoline, gasoline vapors and gasoline-dispensing pumps.
4. If you MUST be non-compliant with law enforcement officer instructions while standing amongst gasoline, gasoline vapors and gasoline-dispensing pumps, be aware that tasers are usually non-lethal compliance devices. Usually.
That is all.
 
2022-05-20 3:26:53 PM  

Security Ninja: 1. If you're going to ride with a motorcycle group, don't aim guns at other drivers.
2. If you MUST ride with a motorcycle group and aim guns at other drivers, be compliant with law enforcement officer instructions.
3. If you MUST be non-compliant with law enforcement officer instructions, do not do so if you are standing amongst gasoline, gasoline vapors and gasoline-dispensing pumps.
4. If you MUST be non-compliant with law enforcement officer instructions while standing amongst gasoline, gasoline vapors and gasoline-dispensing pumps, be aware that tasers are usually non-lethal compliance devices. Usually.
That is all.


There's no evidence of him aiming a gun at another driver, and there is evidence that he was never "non-compliant."

Meanwhile, it's Deputy Dumbass who knew about the spilled gasoline and fired his taser at it.
 
2022-05-20 3:27:14 PM  

ajgeek: Barreto is maimed for life for allegedly mopeding while dumb.


Actually, he and a group of other riders were riding aggressively, lane weaving, speeding, driving on the sidewalks, popping wheelies, running multiple stop signs/red lights and eventually, running from the cops.  He only stopped because he ran out of gas while running from the cops.

So, not the sweet innocent little moped rider you pulled outta your azz.

Video from police chopper:
https://www.wesh.com/article/osceola-wawa-arrest/40048474

Did he deserve a BBQ'ing?  No.  A thorough beating?  Yes.
 
2022-05-20 3:31:30 PM  

MIRV888: 3rd degree burns over 75% of his body?
That's not very survivable.


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2022-05-20 3:31:46 PM  

bo_loo: He only stopped because he ran out of gas while running from the cops.


There are no cops around him at any point until he's been sitting in the gas station for minutes. On the radio to the helicopter they even say that they're far away and can't get there immediately.
 
2022-05-20 3:33:18 PM  

bo_loo: ajgeek: Barreto is maimed for life for allegedly mopeding while dumb.

Actually, he and a group of other riders were riding aggressively, lane weaving, speeding, driving on the sidewalks, popping wheelies, running multiple stop signs/red lights and eventually, running from the cops.  He only stopped because he ran out of gas while running from the cops.

So, not the sweet innocent little moped rider you pulled outta your azz.

Video from police chopper:
https://www.wesh.com/article/osceola-wawa-arrest/40048474

Did he deserve a BBQ'ing?  No.  A thorough beating?  Yes.


Technically, it's allegedly until he's found guilty in a court of law.

You have it in your head that presumption of innocence doesn't extend to him because you probably saw the video (I did not).

So do me a bloody favor and don't Strawman my argument as though I am calling out his innocence because you don't understand words.
 
2022-05-20 3:33:21 PM  

Theaetetus: bo_loo: He only stopped because he ran out of gas while running from the cops.

There are no cops around him at any point until he's been sitting in the gas station for minutes. On the radio to the helicopter they even say that they're far away and can't get there immediately.


Your linked video even describes it as "no pursuit".
 
2022-05-20 3:44:58 PM  
They charged him with reckless driving. So these cops decided to tackle a squid off his bike at a gas pump because he allegedly had a gun, and he previously fled police pursuit. Gas spilled on the ground, and then some galaxy brain tased him for resisting.

The CCTV showed the cop tackling him from behind. Is that standard police procedure for dealing with a potentially armed suspect, or did they just have their blood up because he had the audacity to run from them?
 
2022-05-20 3:46:14 PM  
I assume the complaint against the deputy is centered around wasting perfectly good gas.
 
2022-05-20 3:47:50 PM  

Theaetetus: I mean, he was driving into oncoming traffic, doing wheelies on the highway... Not just "running a red light".


Allegedly. Let's see the actual video of this.

Even if he was, you know how you safely end a police chase? You stop chasing someone for a traffic ticket!
 
2022-05-20 3:55:10 PM  

mrmopar5287: Theaetetus: I mean, he was driving into oncoming traffic, doing wheelies on the highway... Not just "running a red light".

Allegedly. Let's see the actual video of this.


https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/05/18/osceola-sheriff-to-provide-update-on-attempted-arrest-ending-in-gas-station-inferno/
The full* helicopter video is there, under the subheading: "Watch the video evidence provided by the sheriff's office in the media player below:"
Start at 7:15 and you'll see it.

*it cuts off at the end when the cops start the fire
 
2022-05-20 3:56:04 PM  
I guess he didn't get enough charge the first time.
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2022-05-20 5:38:39 PM  
Well, at least the cop fired a Taser that he thought was a Taser instead of firing his gun, not realizing that was a gun and not a Taser.

So it's totes okay that he didn't fire a gun because that would be using lethal force.

Poor guy dies slowly in pain instead of bleeding out at 63rd and Kathrene Dr...
 
2022-05-20 5:42:46 PM  
Cops don't all understand physics. Sparks and gas fumes aren't a pleasant combination.

In other news, this movie is now over 20 years old:

Zoolander gas fight !!!!
Youtube ZnZ2XdqGZWU
 
2022-05-20 5:56:31 PM  

Theaetetus: doing wheelies on the highway


THE HORROR! DOING WHEELIES! Does Florida have the death penalty for that?
 
2022-05-20 5:59:35 PM  
A sheriff deputy is a village idiot in training.
 
2022-05-20 7:36:49 PM  
Dang it deputy fife.
 
2022-05-20 7:46:29 PM  
Theaetetus:
Your linked video even describes it as "no pursuit".

Because they realized the pursuit would endanger even more people.

Chopper tracked him and directed po-po to Mr. BBQ.
 
2022-05-20 8:24:40 PM  

bo_loo: Chopper tracked him


How much does a helicopter cost to operate each hour? With pilot and observer?

They spent that much to track down a motorcyclist for some traffic violations.
 
2022-05-20 8:47:27 PM  

bo_loo: Theaetetus:
Your linked video even describes it as "no pursuit".

Because they realized the pursuit would endanger even more people.


But you said:

bo_loo: Actually, he and a group of other riders were... running from the cops.  He only stopped because he ran out of gas while running from the cops.


But now you admit there were no cops pursuing them. So, how were they running from the cops, if the cops weren't chasing them? Are you confusing "any movement" with "running from something"?
 
2022-05-20 10:52:51 PM  

Theaetetus: mrmopar5287: Theaetetus: I mean, he was driving into oncoming traffic, doing wheelies on the highway... Not just "running a red light".

Allegedly. Let's see the actual video of this.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/05/18/osceola-sheriff-to-provide-update-on-attempted-arrest-ending-in-gas-station-inferno/
The full* helicopter video is there, under the subheading: "Watch the video evidence provided by the sheriff's office in the media player below:"
Start at 7:15 and you'll see it.

*it cuts off at the end when the cops start the fire


That sure as hell wasn't a scooter, and if that video is continuous, it's pretty damning.

Thanks for posting the evidence. My stance on how this ended hasn't changed, nor has my, "scootering while dumb" comment, but I'm updating that portion to, "dirt biking while dumb."
 
2022-05-20 11:33:07 PM  
Who the hell is rich enough to just leave puddles of gasoline here and there?
 
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