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2022-05-20 9:25:36 AM  
It'll take half a second for someone to rip it off its hinge, and that's what everyone's going to do because they'll immediately get sick of it booping their nose when they take a swig.
 
2022-05-20 11:00:54 AM  
With the Burns Omninet?
 
2022-05-20 11:03:35 AM  
Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.
 
2022-05-20 11:05:18 AM  
Well, maybe.
 
2022-05-20 11:06:03 AM  
Be a lot less wasteful if I could just drag a jug into the grocery and fill it up
 
2022-05-20 11:08:06 AM  

Psychopusher: It'll take half a second for someone to rip it off its hinge, and that's what everyone's going to do because they'll immediately get sick of it booping their nose when they take a swig.


That was my thought too.  Unless I'm drinking it while driving, that cap's coming off one way or another - if I can't rip it off, I'll cut it off.
 
2022-05-20 11:08:21 AM  
Based on the picture, it wouldn't be possible to screw on and unscrew the cap, because the hinge is down at the base of the neck and has no length. Either the cap is poorly designed or the photo is crap and edited for marketing purposes.
 
2022-05-20 11:09:59 AM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: With the Burns Omninet?


A spoonful of slurry will cure what ails ya!
 
2022-05-20 11:12:05 AM  
The new bottles feature an attached cap, a design that is supposed to make it easier to recycle the whole package at once - and keep caps out of the trash.

But then how are we supposed to fund our schools?
 
2022-05-20 11:12:16 AM  
Wouldn't it be better in many many ways if all soda was just a dry powder you mix in your own container? Or even syrup you add to your own gas system.
 
2022-05-20 11:13:26 AM  

BretMavrik: The new bottles feature an attached cap, a design that is supposed to make it easier to recycle the whole package at once - and keep caps out of the trash.

But then how are we supposed to fund our schools?


School choice vouchers

/s
 
2022-05-20 11:16:07 AM  
The new bottles feature an attached cap, a design that is supposed to make it easier to recycle the whole package at once - and keep caps out of the trash.

The promotion of plastic recycling is and always has been greenwashing. It's designed to make people think what they're doing is harmless. It is rarely economical to recycle plastic, and much of what you've sent off to be recycled gets tossed into landfills at best, or just as likely, into the water.

Remember the phrase: reduce, reuse, recycle. In that order. The most important thing you can do, by far, is reduce your plastic use. Reuse is a distant second and recycle is an even more distant third.

I still recycle plastic, but there's an argument that you're better off just tossing it into a sealed trash bag, so you can be sure it will stay there for centuries and not wind up in the middle of the Pacific.
 
2022-05-20 11:16:15 AM  
I mean...this is woefully insufficient and all, but kudos for *trying* to do something, I guess.
 
2022-05-20 11:20:09 AM  
Know what would really reduce plastic waste?
Stop selling superfluous products, like Coke.
 
2022-05-20 11:21:27 AM  

NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.


We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.
 
2022-05-20 11:24:36 AM  
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2022-05-20 11:26:05 AM  

Super Chronic: The new bottles feature an attached cap, a design that is supposed to make it easier to recycle the whole package at once - and keep caps out of the trash.

The promotion of plastic recycling is and always has been greenwashing. It's designed to make people think what they're doing is harmless. It is rarely economical to recycle plastic, and much of what you've sent off to be recycled gets tossed into landfills at best, or just as likely, into the water.

Remember the phrase: reduce, reuse, recycle. In that order. The most important thing you can do, by far, is reduce your plastic use. Reuse is a distant second and recycle is an even more distant third.

I still recycle plastic, but there's an argument that you're better off just tossing it into a sealed trash bag, so you can be sure it will stay there for centuries and not wind up in the middle of the Pacific.


Recycling is literally a scam
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2022-05-20 11:26:09 AM  
Thank goodness that's over!
 
2022-05-20 11:27:00 AM  

NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.


I remember the glass bottles.  I remember kids loved smashing them against walls.

They've also tried to do 24oz aluminium cans.  They didn't sell well; I only saw them on the shelves here for a few months, and then they disappeared.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be an alternative to plastic bottles -- there absolutely should be -- but they need to do some research into alternative materials that A) biodegrade relatively quickly, B) into harmless constituents that aren't toxic to our oceans.  Probably a tall order -- I have zero education in materials science -- but I think something like that could be done in a way that makes them sturdy enough for transport, are resilient enough for storage for months, biodegrade into harmless (or significantly less harmful) constituents, and can be scaled up to mass production levels required by the industry to meet both demand and cost requirements.

I don't see it happening any time soon though.
 
2022-05-20 11:27:57 AM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: With the Burns Omninet?


You little ragamuffin.
 
2022-05-20 11:28:54 AM  
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2022-05-20 11:38:08 AM  

Walker: NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.

We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.


I also remember sometimes you'd get a bottle of soda that had a chipped top at the opening, that wasn't caught during cleaning/recycling process.   Also made tons of those pull tab chains as a kid or would use the tab piece to launch the ring part like a flying saucer.
 
2022-05-20 11:40:01 AM  
It was done back in 2015, Subby. Be like a newspaper and get with the times.
 
2022-05-20 11:42:37 AM  
Go back to these. They come in many sizes and more likely to be recycled.

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2022-05-20 11:49:24 AM  

moothemagiccow: Be a lot less wasteful if I could just drag a jug into the grocery and fill it up


Yes, with the Freestyle. Want a growler of peach-flavored ginger ale? Just press Play!
 
2022-05-20 11:49:40 AM  

NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.


But but glass is heavy!
And what if I drop the bottle?  It will break and I'll lose all my precious fluids!
And everyone* knows that they don't really recycle glass anymore, so what's the point?  Just use plastic!

/ * does not apply to anyone with an actual brain
 
2022-05-20 11:56:45 AM  

moothemagiccow: Be a lot less wasteful if I could just drag a jug into the grocery and fill it up


Right? How is this not standard for most drinks and foods by now?
 
2022-05-20 11:57:47 AM  
I basically assumed this meant we farked up so bad that technically there's no ocean pollution because there's no more oceans.
 
2022-05-20 12:11:52 PM  
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2022-05-20 12:20:00 PM  
What kind of monster doesn't put the cap back on before throwing the bottle out?
 
2022-05-20 12:31:54 PM  

waxbeans: Wouldn't it be better in many many ways if all soda was just a dry powder you mix in your own container? Or even syrup you add to your own gas system.


When I drink soda I add to my own gas system.
 
2022-05-20 12:33:00 PM  

Walker: NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.

We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.


Make the bottle deposit larger.
 
2022-05-20 12:35:48 PM  

Super Chronic: The new bottles feature an attached cap, a design that is supposed to make it easier to recycle the whole package at once - and keep caps out of the trash.

The promotion of plastic recycling is and always has been greenwashing. It's designed to make people think what they're doing is harmless. It is rarely economical to recycle plastic, and much of what you've sent off to be recycled gets tossed into landfills at best, or just as likely, into the water.

Remember the phrase: reduce, reuse, recycle. In that order. The most important thing you can do, by far, is reduce your plastic use. Reuse is a distant second and recycle is an even more distant third.

I still recycle plastic, but there's an argument that you're better off just tossing it into a sealed trash bag, so you can be sure it will stay there for centuries and not wind up in the middle of the Pacific.


The endpoint for low-grade plastic and paper should be a waste-to-energy incinerator rather than a landfill. If you can pick off part of the waste stream earlier and do something more useful with it (recycling, repurposing as a structural material, thermal depolymerization, etc) then go for it. Otherwise those hydrocarbons turn into base-load electricity for your city, optionally helping to heat nearby buildings as well.
 
2022-05-20 12:36:21 PM  

whatisaidwas: Walker: NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.

We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.

Make the bottle deposit larger.


Nobody will buy it then.  People don't want to front, like, $4 for a bottle of pop even if it means they get $1 back or whatever the value is.  Sometimes you only have a couple bucks for a pop but can't front the deposit fee.
 
2022-05-20 12:38:19 PM  

Walker: NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.

We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.


Glass is also heavier, requiring more fuel to haul around.
 
2022-05-20 12:41:23 PM  

whatisaidwas: Walker: NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.

We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.

Make the bottle deposit larger.


Yeah, as a kid I did love collecting them and returning them to the grocery store for money to buy comics and candy at the 7-11.
 
2022-05-20 12:46:41 PM  
When I have too much coke I can't off either
 
2022-05-20 1:30:39 PM  

moothemagiccow: Be a lot less wasteful if I could just drag a jug into the grocery and fill it up


You can do that at a gas station.  I get most of my pop in my insulated metal cup.
 
2022-05-20 1:34:11 PM  
The bottle is recyclable but the cap is not and since it's still attached, the whole thing goes in a landfill.
 
2022-05-20 1:39:05 PM  

EBN-OZN: Go back to these. They come in many sizes and more likely to be recycled.

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/reported
 
2022-05-20 2:20:04 PM  

abhorrent1: The bottle is recyclable but the cap is not and since it's still attached, the whole thing goes in a landfill.


No, they just heat the bottles & when the caps don't melt, they skim them off (at least that's my assumption based on how the process has been described to me.

Either way your cap ain't getting recycled.
 
2022-05-20 2:25:21 PM  

abhorrent1: The bottle is recyclable but the cap is not and since it's still attached, the whole thing goes in a landfill.


The caps are made of polypropylene (PP) and can be recycled (look under the cap and liner, you should see a recycling type of 5 -- a 5 inside the triangle of arrows).  However, the bottles are made of polyethylene tetraphthalate (PET) (recycling type 1), so they can both be recycled, but they have to be subjected to different processes, as they both have very different melting points.

It doesn't mean an extra step in the process though, because the way bottles are now, opening a twist-off still leaves a PP ring attached to the bottle, which still has to be cut off.  That doesn't change if the caps become hinged, it's just that they'll now be cutting off the ring and the cap.
 
2022-05-20 2:30:49 PM  

Psychopusher: abhorrent1: The bottle is recyclable but the cap is not and since it's still attached, the whole thing goes in a landfill.

The caps are made of polypropylene (PP) and can be recycled (look under the cap and liner, you should see a recycling type of 5 -- a 5 inside the triangle of arrows).  However, the bottles are made of polyethylene tetraphthalate (PET) (recycling type 1), so they can both be recycled, but they have to be subjected to different processes, as they both have very different melting points.

It doesn't mean an extra step in the process though, because the way bottles are now, opening a twist-off still leaves a PP ring attached to the bottle, which still has to be cut off.  That doesn't change if the caps become hinged, it's just that they'll now be cutting off the ring and the cap.


The caps work well for repurposing at home. I melt them in a toaster oven and press them into bricks that I use for making widgets around the shop.
 
2022-05-20 3:12:43 PM  

Psychopusher: whatisaidwas: Walker: NM Volunteer: Easier solution, stop using plastic altogether and just do glass bottles and aluminum cans.

We had that in the 70's, there was broken glass everywhere.

Make the bottle deposit larger.

Nobody will buy it then.  People don't want to front, like, $4 for a bottle of pop even if it means they get $1 back or whatever the value is.  Sometimes you only have a couple bucks for a pop but can't front the deposit fee.


ROFLMAO.  That's just not ture.
 
2022-05-20 3:13:26 PM  

SumoJeb: Psychopusher: abhorrent1: The bottle is recyclable but the cap is not and since it's still attached, the whole thing goes in a landfill.

The caps are made of polypropylene (PP) and can be recycled (look under the cap and liner, you should see a recycling type of 5 -- a 5 inside the triangle of arrows).  However, the bottles are made of polyethylene tetraphthalate (PET) (recycling type 1), so they can both be recycled, but they have to be subjected to different processes, as they both have very different melting points.

It doesn't mean an extra step in the process though, because the way bottles are now, opening a twist-off still leaves a PP ring attached to the bottle, which still has to be cut off.  That doesn't change if the caps become hinged, it's just that they'll now be cutting off the ring and the cap.

The caps work well for repurposing at home. I melt them in a toaster oven and press them into bricks that I use for making widgets around the shop.


I once made a microwave steamer using bottlecaps & Gladware.

But even if the caps are technically recyclable, my understanding is that almost no recycling plants recycle polypropylene & instead throw that part away.

You'd think they'd collect it all & then ship it to a place that does but I guess not.
 
2022-05-21 7:00:30 AM  
I'm in Germany right now and all of the coke bottles I have seen have these.
 
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