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2022-05-20 5:30:53 AM  
I made it 9 seconds into his Snyderverse cut when my brain realized that he used 4:3 ratio and I was like, I didn't buy a 70" tv to watch a movie like it was an old episode of Leave it to Beaver and noped out.
 
2022-05-20 6:57:54 AM  
Ah, the Snyderverse, like the MCU but stupid.
 
2022-05-20 7:00:39 AM  
I like the Snyderverse (fark you, fight me) but I'd be just as happy with the JamesGunnVerse.
 
2022-05-20 7:15:47 AM  
I was not impressed with the theatrical cut of Justice League but by the end I did want to see more of the characters together. I thought Whedon had failed at fixing the existing problems Snyder left behind. I watched the four hour Snyder cut and realized Whedon had pulled off a miracle. He managed to polish a pile of runny diarrhea into being watchable.
 
2022-05-20 7:21:52 AM  

Rent Party: I like the Snyderverse (fark you, fight me) but I'd be just as happy with the JamesGunnVerse.


Nothing wrong with liking something. It's just some people cross over from "like" to "obsess over"
 
2022-05-20 7:38:29 AM  
Having an extremely vocal group of fans about a particular piece of work doesn't necessarily translate into product anyone else cares about.  Prime example being all the hype about "Snakes on a Plane".
 
2022-05-20 7:38:32 AM  
Are these really actual people?

It just seems like a typical 4Chan stunt or an elaborate
social media trolling, especially when still clamoring after an
Ayers cut even after the more successful sequel.

If anything, it's weird cultish behavior concerning entertainment IP's.
 
2022-05-20 7:46:07 AM  
The Snyder cut is a better movie than the Whedon cut. It's still a bad movie, just slightly less so.
 
2022-05-20 8:16:42 AM  

YodaBlues: The Snyder cut is a better movie than the Whedon cut. It's still a bad movie, just slightly less so.


But it's also a much longer movie, so it evens out.
 
2022-05-20 8:17:26 AM  
It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.
 
2022-05-20 8:23:27 AM  
Good.
 
2022-05-20 8:26:13 AM  

Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.


If you're one of the devotees who kept raving about how the SnyderCut was going to be one of the biggest movie events in the history of ever, you can't. You have to keep talking it up or else the rest of us will completely forget about it, and that doesn't really play into the myth they built.

/SnyderCut needed more Marthas. We will NEVER forget about the Marthas.
 
2022-05-20 8:43:54 AM  

EdgeRunner: Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.

If you're one of the devotees who kept raving about how the SnyderCut was going to be one of the biggest movie events in the history of ever, you can't. You have to keep talking it up or else the rest of us will completely forget about it, and that doesn't really play into the myth they built.

/SnyderCut needed more Marthas. We will NEVER forget about the Marthas.


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2022-05-20 8:44:20 AM  

Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.


They really shouldn't have indulged them (or Snyder for that matter). If you give an entitled asshole a cookie...
 
2022-05-20 8:51:56 AM  
I really liked the Snyder Cut but certainly have no desire to watch the first three hours and 15 minutes of it ever again.
The ending was fantastic, but I just don't feel the whole movie has rewatchability like most of the Avengers films
 
2022-05-20 8:52:59 AM  

Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.


Did WB make a profit from the SnyderCut? I never did see any figures.
 
2022-05-20 8:55:58 AM  

Hell Poodle: Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.

They really shouldn't have indulged them (or Snyder for that matter). If you give an entitled asshole a cookie...


Agreed, but I felt fairly bad for Snyder between what happened with his daughter, having Whedon come in, and then the "controversy" over who was at fault for it being a bit of a flop. Then he had to go and throw away my sympathy for him with that effing zombie movie.
 
2022-05-20 9:31:07 AM  
I mean... it was bad, and not even the kind of bad where it's still fun enough to make consistent money (e.g. Michael Bay's entire career), with the exception of maybe Man of Steel and Suicide Squad, which made back their budgets about as easily and unambiguously as blockbuster movies are "supposed" to do.

Like... the Snyder re-edit of JL was better and more well-received than the original, but only because that was such a low bar, it was still the non-fun kind of useless cinematic trash.

I don't know what these idiots want here, WB has tried and tried to make fetch a thing here far past the point of sanity and it just objectively does not work. Like, to the point disassociating films from Snyder's style in the advertising and stating that a given movie in the DCEU _wont_ have crossover continuity visibly boosts box office and critical reception.
 
2022-05-20 9:51:35 AM  

browneye: Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.

Did WB make a profit from the SnyderCut? I never did see any figures.


It didn't get a theatrical release. It was used as a gimmick to help sell HBO Max when it first started. So the only people who know how many people watched it is WB. But the fact that they aren't in any hurry to work with Snyder again should give some indication that it wasn't as many as they'd like
 
2022-05-20 10:11:03 AM  
the fact that they gave the guy $20 million to fix his movie, and it was good, was a miracle

i know people want their 'universe' or whatever, but that trilogy should be good enough
 
2022-05-20 10:49:46 AM  

TDWCom29: browneye: Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.

Did WB make a profit from the SnyderCut? I never did see any figures.

It didn't get a theatrical release. It was used as a gimmick to help sell HBO Max when it first started. So the only people who know how many people watched it is WB. But the fact that they aren't in any hurry to work with Snyder again should give some indication that it wasn't as many as they'd like


It did well enough that they gave him Army of the Dead and plastered his name all over it as a selling point. SnyderLeague probably paid off as a marketing tool if nothing else, because it certainly grabbed an undue amount of media attention for awhile.

But even if it did better than its flash-in-the-pan pop culture status suggests, there's no way we're getting more of that version. Affleck bailed on playing Batman, Ray Fisher talked himself out of a job (fairly or not), Ezra Miller is burning his career with Flash-like speed, and nobody wants more of Jared Leto's Joker. The SnyderVerse is dead for reasons that go well beyond just the bad reviews and fan disappointment, and about the only way anyone would continue Snyder's supposed trilogy now is by going back to the source and making it a comic book.
 
2022-05-20 11:03:52 AM  

EdgeRunner: TDWCom29: browneye: Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.

Did WB make a profit from the SnyderCut? I never did see any figures.

It didn't get a theatrical release. It was used as a gimmick to help sell HBO Max when it first started. So the only people who know how many people watched it is WB. But the fact that they aren't in any hurry to work with Snyder again should give some indication that it wasn't as many as they'd like

It did well enough that they gave him Army of the Dead and plastered his name all over it as a selling point


That was Netflix
 
2022-05-20 11:19:58 AM  
What I'll never understand about JL and specifically the Snyder cut is that with the massive history of the DC comics and everything that they could have drawn on they went for an clone of the Marvel films but in one movie. 

Mother Boxes = Infinity Stones
Darkside = Thanos
Steppenwolf = Ronan
DeSaad = The Other
Martian Manhunter = Vision

Even the comment at Batman's lake house about him not being the one to sacrifice is a clone of Capt. America and Stark.
 
2022-05-20 11:34:57 AM  

TDWCom29: EdgeRunner: TDWCom29: browneye: Wobambo: It was very kind of WB to indulge them with doing the SnyderCut thing at all and they need to respect that by now shutting the hell up about it.

Did WB make a profit from the SnyderCut? I never did see any figures.

It didn't get a theatrical release. It was used as a gimmick to help sell HBO Max when it first started. So the only people who know how many people watched it is WB. But the fact that they aren't in any hurry to work with Snyder again should give some indication that it wasn't as many as they'd like

It did well enough that they gave him Army of the Dead and plastered his name all over it as a selling point

That was Netflix


Good point. But they still believed he brought enough value to a different streaming platform that they wanted in on his then-current name recognition.

They don't seem to want much to do with him now, though, so that's two trilogies he won't be finishing.
 
2022-05-20 11:43:32 AM  

YodaBlues: The Snyder cut is a better movie than the Whedon cut. It's still a bad movie, just slightly less so.


It's oddly both better and worse. I find it kinda fascinating.

But WB shouldn't have bowed to the pressure to make and release it even if it was to promote HBOMax. It just means that since it worked once people think it'll work if they put enough pressure on them every time.
 
2022-05-20 11:46:36 AM  

Jaxotea: What I'll never understand about JL and specifically the Snyder cut is that with the massive history of the DC comics and everything that they could have drawn on they went for an clone of the Marvel films but in one movie. 

Mother Boxes = Infinity Stones
Darkside = Thanos
Steppenwolf = Ronan
DeSaad = The Other
Martian Manhunter = Vision

Even the comment at Batman's lake house about him not being the one to sacrifice is a clone of Capt. America and Stark.


All criticisms of your theory aside... Justice League came out the year BEFORE Infinity War
 
2022-05-20 11:46:47 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: YodaBlues: The Snyder cut is a better movie than the Whedon cut. It's still a bad movie, just slightly less so.

It's oddly both better and worse. I find it kinda fascinating.

But WB shouldn't have bowed to the pressure to make and release it even if it was to promote HBOMax. It just means that since it worked once people think it'll work if they put enough pressure on them every time.


They'll just continue to complain and harass everyone online the same way they always have, and WB will go back to ignoring them. Far from changing anything, it just means the status quo is reasserting itself.
 
2022-05-20 12:04:49 PM  

moothemagiccow: Jaxotea: What I'll never understand about JL and specifically the Snyder cut is that with the massive history of the DC comics and everything that they could have drawn on they went for an clone of the Marvel films but in one movie. 

Mother Boxes = Infinity Stones
Darkside = Thanos
Steppenwolf = Ronan
DeSaad = The Other
Martian Manhunter = Vision

Even the comment at Batman's lake house about him not being the one to sacrifice is a clone of Capt. America and Stark.

All criticisms of your theory aside... Justice League came out the year BEFORE Infinity War


Yeah, but the line originated in 2012 in the 1st Avengers film.
 
2022-05-20 12:31:58 PM  
Face it SnyderVerse fans: Warner Bros. is just not into you

Good. I didn't see the Whedon version, but I watched the Snyder Turd and it was hands down one of the worst movies I have ever seen. And I watch a lot of bad movies.
 
2022-05-20 1:03:38 PM  

Boojum2k: I was not impressed with the theatrical cut of Justice League but by the end I did want to see more of the characters together. I thought Whedon had failed at fixing the existing problems Snyder left behind. I watched the four hour Snyder cut and realized Whedon had pulled off a miracle. He managed to polish a pile of runny diarrhea into being watchable.


The Snydercut was immediately farked by not having its conclusion. We already know there's no JL2, so we never get to actually see Darkseid come to Earth, never get the full Knightfall scenario, never get the real events that would lead into a fully fleshed DCU.

WB/DC just doesn't give a shiat. When they canned Affleck, and rebooted Batman (AGAIN!), it was a foregone conclusion. Ironically, the new Black Adam film looks great, but again goes back to the winks and Easter eggs since they can't/won't do continuity.

It's annoying as fark, but it is what it is. MCU and Disney put a lot of time, effort, and money into Feige and keeping it a collective universe. DC -HAS- done similar in the past with animated shows, but live action always sucks hind tit trying to be arthouse cinema.

It's okay if they wanted to be "darker" if they would actually put the effort into character building, but they'd rather just slap it out there, take whatever they earn, and dump it in the trash afterwards.
 
2022-05-20 1:23:21 PM  

houstondragon: Boojum2k: I was not impressed with the theatrical cut of Justice League but by the end I did want to see more of the characters together. I thought Whedon had failed at fixing the existing problems Snyder left behind. I watched the four hour Snyder cut and realized Whedon had pulled off a miracle. He managed to polish a pile of runny diarrhea into being watchable.

The Snydercut was immediately farked by not having its conclusion. We already know there's no JL2, so we never get to actually see Darkseid come to Earth, never get the full Knightfall scenario, never get the real events that would lead into a fully fleshed DCU.

WB/DC just doesn't give a shiat. When they canned Affleck, and rebooted Batman (AGAIN!), it was a foregone conclusion. Ironically, the new Black Adam film looks great, but again goes back to the winks and Easter eggs since they can't/won't do continuity.

It's annoying as fark, but it is what it is. MCU and Disney put a lot of time, effort, and money into Feige and keeping it a collective universe. DC -HAS- done similar in the past with animated shows, but live action always sucks hind tit trying to be arthouse cinema.

It's okay if they wanted to be "darker" if they would actually put the effort into character building, but they'd rather just slap it out there, take whatever they earn, and dump it in the trash afterwards.


The entire Snyderverse was farked from the beginning by trying to pass off grimdark as realism. The MCU distinguished itself from the comics from the start with "The truth is. . . I am Iron Man." Snyder got so obsessed with "gods battling produces cool mass casualty events and toppled buildings" and forgot that Superman wouldn't have a secret identity anymore. The Kryptonians attacked three places. Metropolis, the Indian Ocean, and the Kent Farm outside of Smallville. With a line of destruction drawn directly from that farm to Smallville. It doesn't take the World's Greatest Detective to look at a yearbook. Farking Reddit would probably have done it that afternoon.
 
2022-05-20 1:48:46 PM  

Boojum2k: houstondragon: Boojum2k: I was not impressed with the theatrical cut of Justice League but by the end I did want to see more of the characters together. I thought Whedon had failed at fixing the existing problems Snyder left behind. I watched the four hour Snyder cut and realized Whedon had pulled off a miracle. He managed to polish a pile of runny diarrhea into being watchable.

The Snydercut was immediately farked by not having its conclusion. We already know there's no JL2, so we never get to actually see Darkseid come to Earth, never get the full Knightfall scenario, never get the real events that would lead into a fully fleshed DCU.

WB/DC just doesn't give a shiat. When they canned Affleck, and rebooted Batman (AGAIN!), it was a foregone conclusion. Ironically, the new Black Adam film looks great, but again goes back to the winks and Easter eggs since they can't/won't do continuity.

It's annoying as fark, but it is what it is. MCU and Disney put a lot of time, effort, and money into Feige and keeping it a collective universe. DC -HAS- done similar in the past with animated shows, but live action always sucks hind tit trying to be arthouse cinema.

It's okay if they wanted to be "darker" if they would actually put the effort into character building, but they'd rather just slap it out there, take whatever they earn, and dump it in the trash afterwards.

The entire Snyderverse was farked from the beginning by trying to pass off grimdark as realism. The MCU distinguished itself from the comics from the start with "The truth is. . . I am Iron Man." Snyder got so obsessed with "gods battling produces cool mass casualty events and toppled buildings" and forgot that Superman wouldn't have a secret identity anymore. The Kryptonians attacked three places. Metropolis, the Indian Ocean, and the Kent Farm outside of Smallville. With a line of destruction drawn directly from that farm to Smallville. It doesn't take the World's Greatest Detective to look at a yearbook. Farking Reddit would probably have done it that afternoon.


You have a lot of faith in Reddit.
 
2022-05-20 2:16:02 PM  

Rent Party: I like the Snyderverse (fark you, fight me) but I'd be just as happy with the JamesGunnVerse.


The Snyderverse would be fine if it was about the Justice Lords.
 
2022-05-20 2:17:59 PM  
MCU was created and is maintained by people who are fans of the comics and the animation.

DCCU was created by people who are not fans.

That's the difference.
 
2022-05-20 3:40:36 PM  
Good god that Snyder cut was bad. Girlfriend, myself, and our friend decided to give it a shot when it came out after having food and a few drinks at the bar. The girlfriend called it a night halfway through and my friend and I were well drunk by the time we came to the realization that we hadn't even got to Superman being in the farking movie. I've thought about giving it a sober shot but I just cant sit through that shiat show again. I have absolutely no problem with long movies, but that was unnecessary.
 
2022-05-20 4:06:34 PM  

Flappyhead: Rent Party: I like the Snyderverse (fark you, fight me) but I'd be just as happy with the JamesGunnVerse.

The Snyderverse would be fine if it was about the Justice Lords.


Weirdly that just happens to be the DCAU JL I first went and watched to wash the filth of the Snyder Cut out of my brain.
 
2022-05-20 5:39:34 PM  
No reason for the Justice League movie to be three hours or however goddamn long, but it was better than its initial cut.

Batman in Mad Max world I'd actually like to see, and the YouTube posted cut version of Leto's joker was actually tolerable in that clip.

But I'm also tiring of comic book movies (not a comic book guy), and if we're going to make anyone evil, stop the Superman thing.

Bruce farking' Wayne needs his turn as a villain. Not "this is his dad, OwlMan" or "he got Joker disease."

I mean obsessive, cold, billionaire who thinks he's the solution Bruce Wayne, no longer giving a fark about collateral damage, criminals or little people, like Ras al-Ghul intended in Nolan's first film. (BatMusk?)

/Batman giving way too much leniency to a mad dog like the Joker is collateral damage though
 
2022-05-20 6:00:37 PM  

Rent Party: I like the Snyderverse (fark you, fight me) but I'd be just as happy with the JamesGunnVerse.


James Gunn is the epitome of edgelord. Zach Snyder is a one trick pony.
 
2022-05-20 6:07:33 PM  

Practical_Draconian: No reason for the Justice League movie to be three hours or however goddamn long, but it was better than its initial cut.

Batman in Mad Max world I'd actually like to see, and the YouTube posted cut version of Leto's joker was actually tolerable in that clip.

But I'm also tiring of comic book movies (not a comic book guy), and if we're going to make anyone evil, stop the Superman thing.

Bruce farking' Wayne needs his turn as a villain. Not "this is his dad, OwlMan" or "he got Joker disease."

I mean obsessive, cold, billionaire who thinks he's the solution Bruce Wayne, no longer giving a fark about collateral damage, criminals or little people, like Ras al-Ghul intended in Nolan's first film. (BatMusk?)

/Batman giving way too much leniency to a mad dog like the Joker is collateral damage though


So....exactly how he was portrayed in Batman v Superman.
 
2022-05-20 6:35:21 PM  

Lexington Craddock: moothemagiccow: Jaxotea: What I'll never understand about JL and specifically the Snyder cut is that with the massive history of the DC comics and everything that they could have drawn on they went for an clone of the Marvel films but in one movie. 

Mother Boxes = Infinity Stones
Darkside = Thanos
Steppenwolf = Ronan
DeSaad = The Other
Martian Manhunter = Vision

Even the comment at Batman's lake house about him not being the one to sacrifice is a clone of Capt. America and Stark.

All criticisms of your theory aside... Justice League came out the year BEFORE Infinity War

Yeah, but the line originated in 2012 in the 1st Avengers film.


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2022-05-20 9:44:20 PM  

moothemagiccow: Lexington Craddock: moothemagiccow: Jaxotea: What I'll never understand about JL and specifically the Snyder cut is that with the massive history of the DC comics and everything that they could have drawn on they went for an clone of the Marvel films but in one movie. 

Mother Boxes = Infinity Stones
Darkside = Thanos
Steppenwolf = Ronan
DeSaad = The Other
Martian Manhunter = Vision

Even the comment at Batman's lake house about him not being the one to sacrifice is a clone of Capt. America and Stark.

All criticisms of your theory aside... Justice League came out the year BEFORE Infinity War

Yeah, but the line originated in 2012 in the 1st Avengers film.

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"Genius, Billionaire, Playboy, Philanthropist" Tony Stark vs Steve Rogers - The Avengers (2012)
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Your gif is poorly used. The line DID feature in the 2012 Avengers, and then the pay-off was Stark's sacrifice in Infinity War... You know, because Marvel Studios took the time to build characters, tell a story, and then have the big universe-threatening event and selfless sacrifice of the least likely hero AFTER all that so that it actually meant something.
 
2022-05-20 9:51:31 PM  
I'll let you in on a little secret Warner Bros didn't want to have anything to do with Snyder. They really didn't want to do his SnyderCut, Since Warner Bros and Discovery merged Snyder is unlikely to be involved anymore.
 
2022-05-21 1:44:14 AM  
Snyder is a cinematographer who  thinks that's all that makes a movie work.
David Fincher is a cinematographer and a director who knows story structure and character building and actually knows how to tell a story.
 
2022-05-21 2:13:37 AM  

moothemagiccow: Jaxotea: What I'll never understand about JL and specifically the Snyder cut is that with the massive history of the DC comics and everything that they could have drawn on they went for an clone of the Marvel films but in one movie. 

Mother Boxes = Infinity Stones
Darkside = Thanos
Steppenwolf = Ronan
DeSaad = The Other
Martian Manhunter = Vision

Even the comment at Batman's lake house about him not being the one to sacrifice is a clone of Capt. America and Stark.

All criticisms of your theory aside... Justice League came out the year BEFORE Infinity War


And, let make this clear: Thanos was copied from Darkseid.

And Snyder had the whole time travel story outlined.  Right after he was given the keys MoD.

Snyder didn't fail: All of the DC movies did well BO wise. The reshoot budgets is what killed them. WB got cold feet when DC suits didn't get the accolades or the billions they thought they would automatically get.

What really sucks is when everyone was praising ZSJL and it was getting lots of internet exposure, The now former WB heads shut down any potential continuation. There is a reason why everyone is losing their jobs in n the merger

Had they announced that Snyder would get his corner of HBOMAX, they might all still have jobs.
 
2022-05-21 2:19:15 AM  

alaric3: Snyder is a cinematographer who  thinks that's all that makes a movie work.
David Fincher is a cinematographer and a director who knows story structure and character building and actually knows how to tell a story.


I'll disagree: he does know how to tell a story.

1) he does a lot by showing, not telling. Marvel spoonfeeds their audience.

2) WB demanded that Snyder cut down his films.  Both Watchmen, BvS and JL were far better in his directors cut.

3) that being said, Snyder did bad job condensing/editing  his films.
 
2022-05-21 9:02:19 AM  

browneye: MCU was created and is was maintained by people who are were fans of the comics and the animation.


FTFM
 
2022-05-21 11:48:31 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: alaric3: Snyder is a cinematographer who  thinks that's all that makes a movie work.
David Fincher is a cinematographer and a director who knows story structure and character building and actually knows how to tell a story.

I'll disagree: he does know how to tell a story.

1) he does a lot by showing, not telling. Marvel spoonfeeds their audience.

2) WB demanded that Snyder cut down his films.  Both Watchmen, BvS and JL were far better in his directors cut.

3) that being said, Snyder did bad job condensing/editing  his films.


1. Showing requires there to be an actual plot not a bunch of images with zero meaning
2. Movies are meant to be 2 hours or less if you need 4 hours to make a movie you are doing it wrong
3. He wouldn't need to condense or edit if he didn't include completely wasted meaningless plot lines that have nothing to do with the movie.
 
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