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(KAIT Jonesboro)   Investigation opened after school employees make kids sit on hot pavement in 95-degree weather for being disruptive in cafeteria. Second offense, they would have gotten the sweat box   (kait8.com) divider line
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2022-05-18 11:57:15 AM  
Boy, dem right to life states sure are funny about kids.
 
2022-05-18 12:13:08 PM  
The police are going to be pissed.  They normally get to arrest and incarcerate these children to pad their quotas.  I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of this, there's money involved.
 
2022-05-18 12:22:21 PM  
Just another day at Sunlight Gardener's School

/ All children are bad.
// It's axiomatic.
 
2022-05-18 12:22:54 PM  
That's just a typical recess in some cities.
 
2022-05-18 12:23:50 PM  
The day you sat on pavement in 95 degree weather was the most important day of your life.  For arizonans, it was Tuesday.
 
2022-05-18 12:24:11 PM  
30 minutes outside unacceptable? Do they not do recess anymore?
 
2022-05-18 12:25:33 PM  

iheartscotch: 30 minutes outside unacceptable? Do they not do recess anymore?


They were out on recess.  Instead of playing on the pavement, they had to sit on it.
 
2022-05-18 12:28:12 PM  
Why in my day growing up in Oklahoma we would wait for the temps to get that high so we could CHEW on the TAR. A contingent of middle schoolers could chew the tar out of twenty square feet of blacktop and still have room left for some lead paint.
 
2022-05-18 12:28:27 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: That's just a typical recess in some cities.


Sometimes, you can tell which kids were left in a hot car while grandma was at bingo
 
2022-05-18 12:31:59 PM  
I remember that some of the Nuns would crack us on an open Palm with an 18" ruler. I remember the time one Nun Broke the ruler on Eddie K's hand!
 
2022-05-18 12:35:18 PM  
Heck in my day sitting on hot pavement in 95 degree weather was used as a reward!
 
2022-05-18 12:36:25 PM  
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2022-05-18 12:36:33 PM  
Next up make them break rocks in the yard.
 
2022-05-18 12:38:02 PM  
When asked for a comment, the principal responded:
"Some kids you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week."

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2022-05-18 12:39:43 PM  
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2022-05-18 12:42:46 PM  

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Someone pooped in there
 
2022-05-18 12:43:35 PM  
Arkansas law requires recess

(B)Recess shall:
(i)Consist of supervised, unstructured social time during which public school students may communicate with each other;
(ii)Occur outdoors when weather and other relevant conditions permit; and
(iii)Include without limitation opportunities for free play and vigorous physical activity, regardless of whether recess occurs indoors or outdoors.

For those of you who only speak Arkansas, this means a student's right to recess shall not be infringed.
 
2022-05-18 12:43:37 PM  
No heat stroke no foul, amirite boys?
You know what's funny, for all the Farkers here who seem to think it wasn't hot enough...

The dog folks put out those flyers about letting your dog walk on blacktop on a sunny day. Their helpful little flyers note that on a 87 degree day the blacktop in full sun can be 143 surface temp.

Obviously the kids aren't standing out there barefoot, but at 95 you're talking about standing on a surface more than hot enough to fry an egg in a couple minutes.

Maybe one of you in your wisdom can let us know the exact temperature it takes to become child torture?
 
2022-05-18 12:45:25 PM  

iheartscotch: 30 minutes outside unacceptable? Do they not do recess anymore?


Exposed asphalt is about 40-60F hotter, exposed to direct sunlight, than the air temperature. So, if it was a 95F day, it's likely that the asphalt was 135-155F. Asphalt hitting 160F in prolonged exposure to direct sunlight isn't a surprise.

The reason that the kids were seated on hot asphalt for 30 minutes was to cause them rather a bit of discomfort. This is what happens when teachers want to hit a kid, but aren't allowed to hit a kid - they get creative.
 
2022-05-18 12:45:50 PM  
What about all that UV and pollution outside? That has to be just as dangerous.
 
2022-05-18 12:49:05 PM  

DoganSquirrelSlayer: No heat stroke no foul, amirite boys?
You know what's funny, for all the Farkers here who seem to think it wasn't hot enough...

The dog folks put out those flyers about letting your dog walk on blacktop on a sunny day. Their helpful little flyers note that on a 87 degree day the blacktop in full sun can be 143 surface temp.

Obviously the kids aren't standing out there barefoot, but at 95 you're talking about standing on a surface more than hot enough to fry an egg in a couple minutes.

Maybe one of you in your wisdom can let us know the exact temperature it takes to become child torture?


Oh look at this woke social justice warrior making his brave stand against basic all-American grade school corporal punishment by making it out to be "child torture" WOMP WOMP

/ Yes, I am a monologue writer at FOX. Why do you ask?
 
2022-05-18 12:49:10 PM  

DoganSquirrelSlayer: No heat stroke no foul, amirite boys?
You know what's funny, for all the Farkers here who seem to think it wasn't hot enough...

The dog folks put out those flyers about letting your dog walk on blacktop on a sunny day. Their helpful little flyers note that on a 87 degree day the blacktop in full sun can be 143 surface temp.

Obviously the kids aren't standing out there barefoot, but at 95 you're talking about standing on a surface more than hot enough to fry an egg in a couple minutes.

Maybe one of you in your wisdom can let us know the exact temperature it takes to become child torture?


Exactly.

The fun part? Arkansas allows corporal punishment in schools - read "spank or paddle your kid" - but only in districts that explicitly spell it out. But even those moronic ministrations don't allow for burning your kid on hot asphalt as a form of discipline.
 
2022-05-18 12:51:05 PM  

chewd: Heck in my day sitting on hot pavement in 95 degree weather was used as a reward!


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2022-05-18 12:51:34 PM  
Arkansas happens to be one of 19 states that allow corporal punishment in K-12 schools.  It wouldn't take a Saul Goodman to successfully argue that this is just another form and in the kids' best interests.

The 19th century was so enlightening.
 
2022-05-18 12:53:56 PM  
google her name for a list of 'things'...
 
2022-05-18 12:55:32 PM  
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Were they "Loud Talkin'" or "Playin' Grab-ass"? Or maybe they lost their spoon....
 
2022-05-18 12:59:40 PM  

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So...what's going on in the background there?
 
2022-05-18 12:59:45 PM  

chewd: Heck in my day sitting on hot pavement in 95 degree weather was used as a reward!


Ah, the '70s. Thompson School, Webster, MA.
Hot, bare-steel jungle gym on asphalt. That was our playground.
For recess? Same playground, but with dodgeball.
Dodgeball, on asphalt hot enough to stick to your cheap-ass Woolworth's sneakers.
 
2022-05-18 1:00:32 PM  

DoganSquirrelSlayer: No heat stroke no foul, amirite boys?
You know what's funny, for all the Farkers here who seem to think it wasn't hot enough...

The dog folks put out those flyers about letting your dog walk on blacktop on a sunny day. Their helpful little flyers note that on a 87 degree day the blacktop in full sun can be 143 surface temp.

Obviously the kids aren't standing out there barefoot, but at 95 you're talking about standing on a surface more than hot enough to fry an egg in a couple minutes.

Maybe one of you in your wisdom can let us know the exact temperature it takes to become child torture?


Up to but not including leaving a mark.
 
2022-05-18 1:01:49 PM  
I remember more than one fight with school administrators back when I was a kid.
At one point the jerk running the detention that day wanted to use us as free labor around the rectory and church.
I up and left. They were furious at me. Dad was like "why did you leave?". I told him I was in detention, not ground crew.
And that was the end of that.
 
2022-05-18 1:02:36 PM  
Cafeteria workers put them on the grill until they were medium rare.
 
2022-05-18 1:04:07 PM  
Investigation opened after school employees make kids sit on hot pavement in 95-degree weather for being disruptive in cafeteria.

That's it, we're banning bee costumes for kids.
 
2022-05-18 1:07:23 PM  

FormlessOne: Just another day at Sunlight Gardener's School

/ All children are bad.
// It's axiomatic.


Always got a kick out of that name as one of my life long friends was named, at the time(since divorced), Sunshine Farmer.
 
2022-05-18 1:12:13 PM  

Fear the Clam: Investigation opened after school employees make kids sit on hot pavement in 95-degree weather for being disruptive in cafeteria.

That's it, we're banning bee costumes for kids.


Bring on the WASPs.
 
2022-05-18 1:12:34 PM  

FormlessOne: iheartscotch: 30 minutes outside unacceptable? Do they not do recess anymore?

Exposed asphalt is about 40-60F hotter, exposed to direct sunlight, than the air temperature. So, if it was a 95F day, it's likely that the asphalt was 135-155F. Asphalt hitting 160F in prolonged exposure to direct sunlight isn't a surprise.

The reason that the kids were seated on hot asphalt for 30 minutes was to cause them rather a bit of discomfort. This is what happens when teachers want to hit a kid, but aren't allowed to hit a kid - they get creative.


The teachers don't have any choice, in most cases, but to take all the kids outside.
 
2022-05-18 1:12:37 PM  
What pisses me off is they probably punished the entire class rather than only the little asses who were disruptive.
 
2022-05-18 1:12:57 PM  
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2022-05-18 1:17:51 PM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Up to but not including leaving a mark.


It's my understanding that with sweat and circulatory cooling you wont get skin surface burns all the way up until something like 200F air temp as long as the body is still operating normally (obviously a dead person will burn/cook eventually with enough time at 200F).

Heat stroke doesn't leave a mark either, so that's ok right? Just so long as the admins bring them when they pass out the body's natural cooling systems should have kept them from having any visible burns up to that point.

Thanks! Glad we could clear your position up.
 
2022-05-18 1:20:22 PM  
It seems clear that some people deliberately seek out jobs in which they are free to abuse people: school admins/teachers, cops, religious positions of various kinds, people who work in detention centers, etc.
 
2022-05-18 1:20:43 PM  

Weaver95: I remember more than one fight with school administrators back when I was a kid.
At one point the jerk running the detention that day wanted to use us as free labor around the rectory and church.
I up and left. They were furious at me. Dad was like "why did you leave?". I told him I was in detention, not ground crew.
And that was the end of that.


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2022-05-18 1:21:33 PM  

Incog_Neeto: The day you sat on pavement in 95 degree weather was the most important day of your life.  For arizonans, it was Tuesday.


Growing up in Miami, my parents later remarked they never saw me wear shoes until school started.  Walking.....hot....
 
2022-05-18 1:24:43 PM  
Something wrong with the Chokey?
 
2022-05-18 1:27:29 PM  

WelldeadLink: Cafeteria workers put them on the grill until they were medium rare.


Critical pieces of this story were missing. This is a school for the disabled, and the kids they're grilling had no arms or legs. The interviews with Frank and Patty were just heartbreaking. Matt, the previous Principal, was a former student. He would never stand for this.
 
2022-05-18 1:28:53 PM  
I'm shocked, I had no idea there were any schools in Arkansas.
 
2022-05-18 1:29:58 PM  

Tangenital: Why in my day growing up in Oklahoma we would wait for the temps to get that high so we could CHEW on the TAR. A contingent of middle schoolers could chew the tar out of twenty square feet of blacktop and still have room left for some lead paint.


Blacktop paving? Paint?? In my town growing, we only had dust, caked with an occasional pile of horse-shiat. And the walls, they were just smeared with more horse shiat. But it still beats what they serve for lunch.
 
2022-05-18 1:33:07 PM  
Happy to see the movie referenced but I am still slightly surprised no one has mentioned a failure to communicate yet.

Anyway... I think this is a list of all the things for which one can be expected to spend a night in the box...

Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...the box.
 
2022-05-18 1:35:00 PM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: pounddawg: [oddcity.net image 589x613]

So...what's going on in the background there?


The guy in the prison outfit has been sentenced to be exiled from the town. But rather than just sending him out with no possessions, in an act of compassion, he can get his shiat packed first.

/old jokes are old
 
2022-05-18 1:35:07 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: It seems clear that some people deliberately seek out jobs in which they are free to abuse people: school admins/teachers, cops, religious positions of various kinds, people who work in detention centers, etc.


DMV clerks...

*shudder*
 
2022-05-18 1:36:27 PM  

DoganSquirrelSlayer: White_Scarf_Syndrome: Up to but not including leaving a mark.

It's my understanding that with sweat and circulatory cooling you wont get skin surface burns all the way up until something like 200F air temp as long as the body is still operating normally (obviously a dead person will burn/cook eventually with enough time at 200F).

Heat stroke doesn't leave a mark either, so that's ok right? Just so long as the admins bring them when they pass out the body's natural cooling systems should have kept them from having any visible burns up to that point.

Thanks! Glad we could clear your position up.


Yes, I won't be happy until they're all dead.
 
2022-05-18 1:36:41 PM  

Some Farking Lurker: WelldeadLink: Cafeteria workers put them on the grill until they were medium rare.

Critical pieces of this story were missing. This is a school for the disabled, and the kids they're grilling had no arms or legs. The interviews with Frank and Patty were just heartbreaking. Matt, the previous Principal, was a former student. He would never stand for this.


I went to that school. The teachers would chuck me in a pile of leaves and laugh.
 
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