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2022-05-17 9:28:55 PM  
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2022-05-17 10:16:32 PM  
How much is this panel getting paid and what more could they possibly have to investigate?
 
2022-05-17 10:19:58 PM  
Shiats not done yet, wait your turn.

/FBI likely has some stuff already and wants to cross check to see if these f*ckers lied to them or to Congress.
 
2022-05-17 10:26:26 PM  

somedude210: Shiats not done yet, wait your turn.

/FBI likely has some stuff already and wants to cross check to see if these f*ckers lied to them or to Congress.


Or, their seat cushions are worn, and they want something fresh to sit on for awhile.
 
2022-05-17 10:48:05 PM  

Mugato: How much is this panel getting paid and what more could they possibly have to investigate?


Congressional salaries are $174K per year but that has nothing to do with being on any particular committee.
What the heck is behind your question?

Are you asking about staffer salaries? Most of them don't make a living wage, many have law degrees, and they are working a sacrifice wages to establish a resume.

Meanwhile, there's a mixed bag behind all this. The DOJ should be making specific requests ahead of a report from the J6 committee. They could make a request for a preliminary report. That would be appropriate in many respects.

Better still, it's time to nominate a Special Prosecutor to look into the events of J6 and that person should then request access to the records of the J6 committee. This is long overdue. It has been avoided over political sensitivities in the wake of the Mueller investigation but it's essentially time to say that sufficient evidence has come forward to nominate a Special Prosecutor with a well considered mandate focused on the specific cadre of individuals who conspired to and sought to disrupt official proceedings of Congress in the certification of the Electoral College results.
 
2022-05-17 10:53:22 PM  
Yeah infighting is super helpful. It's bad enough that Garland is incompetent, keeping potential evidence from him doesn't help anyone. Ultimately the Jan 6 committee needs him to act so why push that off even further?

Or, to put it Letterkennyly, when a friend asks for help, you help him.
 
2022-05-17 10:55:14 PM  

wademh: Mugato: How much is this panel getting paid and what more could they possibly have to investigate?

Congressional salaries are $174K per year but that has nothing to do with being on any particular committee.
What the heck is behind your question?

Are you asking about staffer salaries? Most of them don't make a living wage, many have law degrees, and they are working a sacrifice wages to establish a resume.

Meanwhile, there's a mixed bag behind all this. The DOJ should be making specific requests ahead of a report from the J6 committee. They could make a request for a preliminary report. That would be appropriate in many respects.

Better still, it's time to nominate a Special Prosecutor to look into the events of J6 and that person should then request access to the records of the J6 committee. This is long overdue. It has been avoided over political sensitivities in the wake of the Mueller investigation but it's essentially time to say that sufficient evidence has come forward to nominate a Special Prosecutor with a well considered mandate focused on the specific cadre of individuals who conspired to and sought to disrupt official proceedings of Congress in the certification of the Electoral College results.


My question is what are they doing now that they couldn't have gotten done since 1/6?
 
2022-05-17 10:58:58 PM  
Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"
 
2022-05-17 11:05:04 PM  

Mugato: wademh: Mugato: ...

My question is what are they doing now that they couldn't have gotten done since 1/6?


Well essentially public record. If you care how don't you know? For example, see the record involving the Eastman emails.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/62613089/john-c-eastman-v-bennie-g-thompson/?page=2

Court challenges take time but they have generally been winning. The battle with Eastman is very entertaining as Eastman has been repeatedly embarrassed by his inept claims. TFG has lost again and again, and yet he is still legally entitled to challenge things.

Still, it's coming together in what is, all things considered, rather fast. Sure, we want it to happen faster but with any knowledge of how courts work, there's little room to think they haven't been working at a relatively fast pace.
 
2022-05-17 11:08:28 PM  

edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"


Explain how you think that works. In what possible way can the FBI shut down a Congressional investigation?
And how is your wife Megan Fairchild doing?
 
2022-05-17 11:31:27 PM  
The panel doesn't want any leaks.
 
2022-05-17 11:58:35 PM  

Mugato: How much is this panel getting paid and what more could they possibly have to investigate?


Members of Congress under subpoena have yet to be held in comtempt, so it's not over yet.
 
2022-05-18 1:26:13 AM  
Democrats ensuring no one gets arrested over some credit principle like this is a high school group project
 
2022-05-18 1:26:22 AM  

vudukungfu: somedude210: Shiats not done yet, wait your turn.

/FBI likely has some stuff already and wants to cross check to see if these f*ckers lied to them or to Congress.

Or, their seat cushions are worn, and they want something fresh to sit on for awhile.


Their parents also dress them funny, and their grandparents stink of Elderberries
 
2022-05-18 1:26:43 AM  
If Dems were smart they would wait until after the election. It's not appropriate to politicize an attempted coup.
 
2022-05-18 1:26:59 AM  

edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"


Who the fark do you think gives the FBI authority and money every farking year
 
2022-05-18 1:37:40 AM  
So... what the fark is the point of the congressional committee's work if they put out a nice report and get plenty of testimony but the DOJ can't bring criminal charges?

I appreciate what they're doing, except as far as I can tell congress brings out obvious reports - things like "making the modified child tax credit permanent will save millions of children from hunger and poverty" or "Saudi religious fanatics caused 9/11" - and then the rest of congress shiats all over it. Might as well print the output of these commissions on toilet paper because at least then they'd be useful.

Why are you doing this shiat? You print out a glossy report saying "these senators and representatives helped Trump attempt an insurrection, here's all the proof", it gets at best a few days in the news, and no charges are brought. People who literally helped plan this remain sitting in congress. And some other congresspeople feel like they did a good job on their homework.

This is not action. This is just masturbation.
 
2022-05-18 1:38:38 AM  
They arent trying to copy, they're getting their story straight.
 
2022-05-18 1:38:47 AM  

moothemagiccow: edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"

Who the fark do you think gives the FBI authority and money every farking year


The party that is being investigated might hold the balance of power in January.
 
2022-05-18 1:41:08 AM  
Good move. The FBI is too heavily infiltrated to be trusted.
 
2022-05-18 1:41:45 AM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: moothemagiccow: edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"

Who the fark do you think gives the FBI authority and money every farking year

The party that is being investigated might hold the balance of power in January.


And you think Pelosi's panel is going to be done before then? LOL
 
2022-05-18 1:45:44 AM  

somedude210: Shiats not done yet, wait your turn.

/FBI likely has some stuff already and wants to cross check to see if these f*ckers lied to them or to Congress.


You're in the ballpark.

The January 6th select committee will likely offer to share the testimony and evidence they've gathered with the DOJ in a highly controlled setting similar to a SCIF. Or perhapps go so far as to suggest the formality of a subpoena, which they would then honor and thus set a precedent for congress to honor subpoenas from the DOJ should ya' know... The GOP retake congress in November. There's also likely some rightful concern on the part of the J6 Committee that a number of Trump loyalists may still be lurking within the DOJ who would eagerly offer up any and all useful information to their fuhrer and his cabal of flying monkeys who are desperate to get Trump back in office and thereby keep their asses out general population at ADX Florence.
 
2022-05-18 1:58:10 AM  
The response is simple. "Y'all start doing your job, then we'll talk."
 
2022-05-18 1:58:57 AM  
The FBI is full of rightwing shills.

More likely they want the transcript so they can tip off to the GOP which crimes/evidence to cover up/destroy.
 
2022-05-18 1:59:31 AM  

moothemagiccow: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: moothemagiccow: edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"

Who the fark do you think gives the FBI authority and money every farking year

The party that is being investigated might hold the balance of power in January.

And you think Pelosi's panel is going to be done before then? LOL


If the FBI get in there, they can slow things down. And who's head of the FBI? A TFG appointee who got the job after TFG decided that the current director wasn't loyal enough to him.
 
2022-05-18 2:06:29 AM  
It should be public already.  The entire thing.

Should have been from the start.
 
2022-05-18 2:08:20 AM  
adamatari:

At least it it were masturbation there'd be chaffing, possibly even a little blood by now
 
2022-05-18 2:14:46 AM  
The FBI didn't make any such request and isn't mentioned anywhere in the article, subby. Ever.

But that's still some super smoove boolshiat you pulled there. I'm sure no one will notice.

I know I didn't.
 
2022-05-18 3:28:51 AM  
I hope they are able to run that pincer move on the corrupt FBI insurrectionist asshats.
 
2022-05-18 3:45:28 AM  
The Senate intelligence committee had rejected a similar request as part of its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Yep, that's exactly what you do when you don't have evidence that will put anyone behind bars. I'm giddy with anticipation for the nothing that will come from this.
 
2022-05-18 4:04:53 AM  
It seems that Merrick Garland thinks his job is to protect the office of the President. He has defended Trump and has done his best to minimize 1/06.

If the committee is going to be anything more than performative theater , you can't let Garland have early access to information so he can run interference for Trump and his people.

Meanwhile, it would be nice if Congress put pressure on Garland to do the law enforcement part of his job.
 
2022-05-18 4:28:05 AM  

sinner4ever: It seems that Merrick Garland thinks his job is to protect the office of the President. He has defended Trump and has done his best to minimize 1/06.

If the committee is going to be anything more than performative theater , you can't let Garland have early access to information so he can run interference for Trump and his people.

Meanwhile, it would be nice if Congress put pressure on Garland to do the law enforcement part of his job.


Not holding my breath on it, but Garland doing his job would be nice.

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2022-05-18 4:45:42 AM  

wademh: Are you asking about staffer salaries? Most of them don't make a living wage, many have law degrees, and they are working a sacrifice wages to establish a resume


So they're like actors with degrees from prestigious drama schools that are waiting for their big break.  And only a few will break out and become big stars like Clint Eastwood, Jan-MIchael Vincent or Ronald Reagan.
 
2022-05-18 5:32:09 AM  

Mugato: How much is this panel getting paid and what more could they possibly have to investigate?


$174,000 a year and a shiat ton.
But if you knew what you were talking about you'd know that.
 
2022-05-18 5:40:46 AM  

edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"


They can't.  I imagine though that the informal conversation may have been like:  We'll show you ours if you show yours.
        Uh, er, well, see, we can't do that 'cause reasons...
 
2022-05-18 6:00:30 AM  
So Garland at least made some noises about doing something, and the committee told him "no?"

Fark the committee.  There should be an open pipeline between DOJ and the 1/6 committee.
 
2022-05-18 6:03:54 AM  

edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"


Oversight of the executive is a constitutionally enumerated power of the Congress.   Do you know what is not even mentioned once in the constitution?  The FBI.

DOJ has 0 authority over what Congress does.   In this case, DOJ is actually doing the right thing, and congress is farking it up.  Again.

They are going to Ollie North this thing.  Bet on it.
 
2022-05-18 6:06:16 AM  

Rent Party: edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"

Oversight of the executive is a constitutionally enumerated power of the Congress.   Do you know what is not even mentioned once in the constitution?  The FBI.

DOJ has 0 authority over what Congress does.   In this case, DOJ is actually doing the right thing, and congress is farking it up.  Again.

They are going to Ollie North this thing.  Bet on it.


Who has the committee offered immunity to?
 
2022-05-18 6:12:08 AM  

qorkfiend: Rent Party: edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"

Oversight of the executive is a constitutionally enumerated power of the Congress.   Do you know what is not even mentioned once in the constitution?  The FBI.

DOJ has 0 authority over what Congress does.   In this case, DOJ is actually doing the right thing, and congress is farking it up.  Again.

They are going to Ollie North this thing.  Bet on it.

Who has the committee offered immunity to?


Practically speaking?   Everyone that has told them to fark off, and everyone that they are not collaborating with the DOJ on.

Ollie walked because of congressional farkupery.  Donnie and his traitor friends are gonna do the same.
 
2022-05-18 6:15:20 AM  

Rent Party: qorkfiend: Rent Party: edmo: Do you trust the FBI with that info? Do you trust them to not try and shut down the Congressional investigation in the name of an "ongoing FBI investigation?"

Oversight of the executive is a constitutionally enumerated power of the Congress.   Do you know what is not even mentioned once in the constitution?  The FBI.

DOJ has 0 authority over what Congress does.   In this case, DOJ is actually doing the right thing, and congress is farking it up.  Again.

They are going to Ollie North this thing.  Bet on it.

Who has the committee offered immunity to?

Practically speaking?   Everyone that has told them to fark off, and everyone that they are not collaborating with the DOJ on.

Ollie walked because of congressional farkupery.  Donnie and his traitor friends are gonna do the same.


Ollie walked because the Congressional committee gave him official immunity from prosecution in exchange for his testimony.

So, again, who has the committee extended an official offer of immunity to?
 
2022-05-18 6:24:45 AM  
I hope they still plan to share their findings with the FBI.  I don't care who takes credit for it.
 
2022-05-18 6:27:53 AM  
Make the transcripts public. Problem solved.
 
2022-05-18 6:41:59 AM  
So the department that has contempt of Congress charges collecting dust on their desks wants the help of Congress? I can understand why the committee isn't sharing just yet. Handing information over to the DOJ would just be tossing it into a black hole. Better to have public hearings and release it publicly so the DOJ has no other option but to act.
 
2022-05-18 7:09:05 AM  
Send them the committee meeting notes for when Bannon was supposed to show but didn't.  Stapled to a copy of the referral, with a yellow sticky saying "Start here"
 
2022-05-18 8:16:17 AM  
On the one hand, this doesn't seem like a good time for a pissing match of this sort.

On the other hand, I'm with killershark.  Get it on the public record first, then hand it off to the DOJ and *dare* them do do nothing.
 
2022-05-18 8:27:04 AM  
But I was told just yesterday that something was gonna happen
 
2022-05-18 8:35:32 AM  

BeesNuts: On the one hand, this doesn't seem like a good time for a pissing match of this sort.

On the other hand, I'm with killershark.  Get it on the public record first, then hand it off to the DOJ and *dare* them do do nothing.


It's hard to put pressure on the DOJ when you withhold information from them for weeks and months. Give them what they need and then, once the information is made public by the committee, they can say that the DOJ already has all of this and STILL has done nothing.

It's a question of tactics and ultimately the committee has no authority to deliver consequences or accountability. It's just for show. The DOJ is the organization that we need to get shiat done, if they ever will.
 
2022-05-18 8:39:43 AM  
Good. I don't think the J6 committee trusts the JD and neither do I.

1: I believe the JD is trying to appear to take action.
2: The JD is full of Trump Humpers and I suspect that they want to try and get out in front and torpedo the whole investigation. And/Or the transcripts are likely to be leaked.

By the J6 committee sticking to their guns, I'm daring to hope that they'll force the JD's hands to actually take action.
 
2022-05-18 8:49:54 AM  

adamatari: So... what the fark is the point of the congressional committee's work if they put out a nice report and get plenty of testimony but the DOJ can't bring criminal charges?

I appreciate what they're doing, except as far as I can tell congress brings out obvious reports - things like "making the modified child tax credit permanent will save millions of children from hunger and poverty" or "Saudi religious fanatics caused 9/11" - and then the rest of congress shiats all over it. Might as well print the output of these commissions on toilet paper because at least then they'd be useful.

Why are you doing this shiat? You print out a glossy report saying "these senators and representatives helped Trump attempt an insurrection, here's all the proof", it gets at best a few days in the news, and no charges are brought. People who literally helped plan this remain sitting in congress. And some other congresspeople feel like they did a good job on their homework.

This is not action. This is just masturbation.


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2022-05-18 9:32:13 AM  

synithium: It should be public already.  The entire thing.

Should have been from the start.


Or, you know, they could do it the smart way
 
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