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2022-05-17 5:14:27 PM  
Although Black Bolt doesn't have any lines in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

Actually, he does. Two words, but it's still a complete sentence.
 
2022-05-17 5:18:53 PM  
All Anson's are nerds

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/Sit on it, Potsie
 
2022-05-17 5:26:13 PM  
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I really like this guy in Hell on Wheels
 
2022-05-17 5:30:51 PM  
He's awesome as Captain Pike.  So glad they gave that crew a show.
 
2022-05-17 5:44:39 PM  
And his short cameo was better than the entirety of Inhumans.
 
2022-05-17 5:47:32 PM  

Kornchex: He's awesome as Captain Pike.  So glad they gave that crew a show.


I really hope they look at the reactions to SNW and retool Discovery in response. Disco has a good cast and a great opportunity with the far future premise, but so much of the series directly revolving around Burnham, plus the constant yell-whispering is just unwatchable to me. Have fun. Don't be so serious all the time.
 
2022-05-17 5:49:07 PM  
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/good flick
//not great
 
2022-05-17 5:53:01 PM  

NeoCortex42: Kornchex: He's awesome as Captain Pike.  So glad they gave that crew a show.

I really hope they look at the reactions to SNW and retool Discovery in response. Disco has a good cast and a great opportunity with the far future premise, but so much of the series directly revolving around Burnham, plus the constant yell-whispering is just unwatchable to me. Have fun. Don't be so serious all the time.


I wish they would, but they won't, Disco is Kurtzman's baby, he has writing credit on all the episodes.
Pray he doesn't hop over to SNW to get more hands-on.
 
2022-05-17 6:00:01 PM  
I don't think SNW is in any real danger of getting too self serious in the first season at least.
 
2022-05-17 7:00:32 PM  
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2022-05-17 7:46:10 PM  

NeoCortex42: And his short cameo was better than the entirety of Inhumans.


The PG-13 cut of Deadpool was better than Inhumans.

/How bad is a movie that it is retconned in less than 2 years? I don't know, but The Eternals is gonna find out.
//I actually told my friend, "When the Sony/Marvel bidding war is over, I'll lay you 5 bucks that the first new character they drag into the MCU is Knull, and he does NOTHING in his first appearance except "eat" the Eternals."
His response: "We can hope."
 
2022-05-17 10:50:57 PM  
If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.
 
2022-05-18 1:40:14 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.


Yeah and why didn't Dr. Strange take the time stone back in time to stop Thanos getting the power stonekill baby thanos

Why didn't captain america just get out of red skull's nuke plane before he crashed it into the ocean
 
2022-05-18 2:28:11 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.


If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics
 
2022-05-18 7:44:56 AM  
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DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics


OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.
 
2022-05-18 8:41:17 AM  

Dhusk: DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics

OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.


Uh-huh.

When is the last time you've seen a male marvel hero straight up fight and defeat the female antagonist of the series/movie?

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella, Strange didn't get to defeat Wanda, Ghost in Antman 2 got "neutralised" by whatsherface who just came from the quantum realm (or whatever it was called), Karli from FatWS get shot by Carter just before she could kill Falcon.

Seriously, I can't think of any.
 
2022-05-18 9:00:57 AM  
DerAppie:

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella

Hella was too strong for anyone to defeat, that's why Ragnarok was facilitated.
 
2022-05-18 9:23:18 AM  

DerAppie: Dhusk: DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics

OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.

Uh-huh.

When is the last time you've seen a male marvel hero straight up fight and defeat the female antagonist of the series/movie?

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella, Strange didn't get to defeat Wanda, Ghost in Antman 2 got "neutralised" by whatsherface who just came from the quantum realm (or whatever it was called), Karli from FatWS get shot by Carter just before she could kill Falcon.

Seriously, I can't think of any.


That's far from just a Marvel thing.  Most movies/shows don't want to depict protagonist guys beating chicks.  Regardless of what the supernatural power level is, it's just not heroic to depict someone literally punching down.  It's not a matter of politics or wokeness or whatever.  It's storytelling.
 
2022-05-18 9:38:30 AM  

NeoCortex42: DerAppie: Dhusk: DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics

OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.

Uh-huh.

When is the last time you've seen a male marvel hero straight up fight and defeat the female antagonist of the series/movie?

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella, Strange didn't get to defeat Wanda, Ghost in Antman 2 got "neutralised" by whatsherface who just came from the quantum realm (or whatever it was called), Karli from FatWS get shot by Carter just before she could kill Falcon.

Seriously, I can't think of any.

That's far from just a Marvel thing.  Most movies/shows don't want to depict protagonist guys beating chicks.  Regardless of what the supernatural power level is, it's just not heroic to depict someone literally punching down.  It's not a matter of politics or wokeness or whatever.  It's storytelling.


Screw this "punching down" BS. If they are "man enough" to assault and murder men, they are "man enough" to get assaulted back by men. It is also a BS cop-out to claim that it is always punching down when the person being punched is a woman.

Always going out of the way to prevent a man defeating a woman is bad storytelling.
 
2022-05-18 9:50:52 AM  

DerAppie: NeoCortex42: DerAppie: Dhusk: DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics

OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.

Uh-huh.

When is the last time you've seen a male marvel hero straight up fight and defeat the female antagonist of the series/movie?

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella, Strange didn't get to defeat Wanda, Ghost in Antman 2 got "neutralised" by whatsherface who just came from the quantum realm (or whatever it was called), Karli from FatWS get shot by Carter just before she could kill Falcon.

Seriously, I can't think of any.

That's far from just a Marvel thing.  Most movies/shows don't want to depict protagonist guys beating chicks.  Regardless of what the supernatural power level is, it's just not heroic to depict someone literally punching down.  It's not a matter of politics or wokeness or whatever.  It's storytelling.

Screw this "punching down" BS. If they are "man enough" to assault and murder men, they are "man enough" to get assaulted back by men. It is also a BS cop-out to claim that it is always punching down when the person being punched is a woman.

Always going out of the way to prevent a man defeating a woman is bad storytelling.


Then take it up with the past century of Hollywood.  Pay attention to anytime there's a group rumble and you'll almost always see the women in each group pair off to fight.  You never see the hero man go around taking out the women on the antagonist's side.  It's just not a good look.  That's all it is.

Hell, Deadpool even made a joke about it in his movie:
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And he was able to get away with it because he's not a purely heroic character.
 
2022-05-18 9:51:21 AM  

DerAppie: NeoCortex42: DerAppie: Dhusk: DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics

OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.

Uh-huh.

When is the last time you've seen a male marvel hero straight up fight and defeat the female antagonist of the series/movie?

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella, Strange didn't get to defeat Wanda, Ghost in Antman 2 got "neutralised" by whatsherface who just came from the quantum realm (or whatever it was called), Karli from FatWS get shot by Carter just before she could kill Falcon.

Seriously, I can't think of any.

That's far from just a Marvel thing.  Most movies/shows don't want to depict protagonist guys beating chicks.  Regardless of what the supernatural power level is, it's just not heroic to depict someone literally punching down.  It's not a matter of politics or wokeness or whatever.  It's storytelling.

Screw this "punching down" BS. If they are "man enough" to assault and murder men, they are "man enough" to get assaulted back by men. It is also a BS cop-out to claim that it is always punching down when the person being punched is a woman.

Always going out of the way to prevent a man defeating a woman is bad storytelling.


Let's take Total Recall (1990) as an example. It had Sharon Stone as a ruthless assassin, trying to kill Schwarzenegger. Did Arnold beat her ass to a pulp? No, Verhoeven (that's right Paul motherf*cking Verhoeven) brought in Rachel Ticotin to beat her ass. Why? Because no matter how edgy you think you are, most people won't pay to watch women get their ass beat. Maybe you should film.yourself beating your wife and jack off to that.
 
2022-05-18 12:36:07 PM  

Bslim: Let's take Total Recall (1990) as an example. It had Sharon Stone as a ruthless assassin, trying to kill Schwarzenegger. Did Arnold beat her ass to a pulp? No, Verhoeven (that's right Paul motherf*cking Verhoeven) brought in Rachel Ticotin to beat her ass. Why? Because no matter how edgy you think you are, most people won't pay to watch women get their ass beat. Maybe you should film.yourself beating your wife and jack off to that.


...

Seriously?

NeoCortex42: Then take it up with the past century of Hollywood. Pay attention to anytime there's a group rumble and you'll almost always see the women in each group pair off to fight. You never see the hero man go around taking out the women on the antagonist's side. It's just not a good look. That's all it is.

Hell, Deadpool even made a joke about it in his movie:


Since when is "that's how we've always done it" a valid explanation for anything?
 
2022-05-18 12:40:02 PM  

DerAppie: NeoCortex42: DerAppie: Dhusk: DerAppie: Tyrone Slothrop: If Wanda can remove a person's mouth, why didn't she just do that to everyone's entire face and suffocate them to death? The fight would have been over in 5 seconds.

If wanda can spaghettify Mister Fantastic, and cover Black Bolt's mouth (why did his skull blow up before his skin ripped?), why did she get into a punching match with the female Illuminati?

Why did the female illuminati just stand by doing nothing while their male counterparts were being murdered? Couldn't toss a shield? Fire a beam?

/Studio politics

OR

Maybe the film was helmed by a well-know horror director who wanted to linger on the more gruesome deaths.

Don't read your stupid incel politics into everything.

Uh-huh.

When is the last time you've seen a male marvel hero straight up fight and defeat the female antagonist of the series/movie?

Thor didn't get to defeat Hella, Strange didn't get to defeat Wanda, Ghost in Antman 2 got "neutralised" by whatsherface who just came from the quantum realm (or whatever it was called), Karli from FatWS get shot by Carter just before she could kill Falcon.

Seriously, I can't think of any.

That's far from just a Marvel thing.  Most movies/shows don't want to depict protagonist guys beating chicks.  Regardless of what the supernatural power level is, it's just not heroic to depict someone literally punching down.  It's not a matter of politics or wokeness or whatever.  It's storytelling.

Screw this "punching down" BS. If they are "man enough" to assault and murder men, they are "man enough" to get assaulted back by men. It is also a BS cop-out to claim that it is always punching down when the person being punched is a woman.

Always going out of the way to prevent a man defeating a woman is bad storytelling.


Maybe you should cry about it?
 
2022-05-18 12:48:09 PM  

DerAppie: NeoCortex42: Then take it up with the past century of Hollywood. Pay attention to anytime there's a group rumble and you'll almost always see the women in each group pair off to fight. You never see the hero man go around taking out the women on the antagonist's side. It's just not a good look. That's all it is.

Hell, Deadpool even made a joke about it in his movie:

Since when is "that's how we've always done it" a valid explanation for anything?


Since you claimed it was just Marvel being political.
 
2022-05-18 3:04:59 PM  

Bslim: NeoCortex42: Kornchex: He's awesome as Captain Pike.  So glad they gave that crew a show.

I really hope they look at the reactions to SNW and retool Discovery in response. Disco has a good cast and a great opportunity with the far future premise, but so much of the series directly revolving around Burnham, plus the constant yell-whispering is just unwatchable to me. Have fun. Don't be so serious all the time.

I wish they would, but they won't, Disco is Kurtzman's baby, he has writing credit on all the episodes.
Pray he doesn't hop over to SNW to get more hands-on.


It's always going to revolve around Michael Burnham, because she's the main character of the show.  That's how Discovery was marketed, from day one.  It was very clearly established that Discovery is HER story.  People keep believing and assuming DSC was another ensemble series like TNG, DS9, etc, but they're wrong to do so.

That being said, I would not be surprised if Discovery, depending on how much longer it runs, starts to alter its format slightly.  Strange New Worlds may only be two episodes in, but is being very well-received so far, even by those who despise Discovery and Picard.  If it continues to be successful, I would imagine Discovery will start to appropriate some of what makes SNW work.  I don't know how far Season 5 is into production, so it might be too late there, but if it gets a 6th season (which seems likely, if the cast and crew want to do it), we might see some changes.  I'm cool with that, as long as they don't go overboard.  Its serialized format can still work; they just need to hit the brakes on the "universe-ending threat" trope, dramatically improve the pacing of their storytelling, give the secondary cast more time to grow and shine, and ease up on the gloom-and-doom moodiness.
 
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