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(The New Civil Rights Movement)   Republicans: Gas prices are too damn high Democrats: OK, here's a bill to prevent oil companies from price gouging. Republicans: That's socialist plus it blames the oil companies for high prices and not Joe Biden   (thenewcivilrightsmovement.com) divider line
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2022-05-17 10:30:46 AM  
That's socialist Plus it blames the oil companies for high prices and not Joe Biden

That is almost exactly what they are saying, just in "code".
 
2022-05-17 10:38:37 AM  
This reminds me of every class project I've ever worked on. 2 of us try to find solutions and do the project, the rest of the group are punching each other in the dick and farting on us.
 
2022-05-17 10:39:03 AM  
The Republicans don't want to fix the problem, Subby. They just want a convenient cudgel for the upcoming midterms.

/Would anyone be surprised if there are back-channel requests to oil companies to keep the price up for another 6 months?
 
2022-05-17 10:48:13 AM  

Bootleg: The Republicans don't want to fix the problem, Subby. They just want a convenient cudgel for the upcoming midterms.

/Would anyone be surprised if there are back-channel requests to oil companies to keep the price up for another 6 months?


They are saying (all of the oil and refinery companies) that they can't find cement, steel, or workers to expand right now and if they poached them from other companies it would lead to hyperinflation. So... yeah, they are not increasing anything at all right now.

But shareholders are getting awesome payouts right now.
 
2022-05-17 11:16:41 AM  
I was explaining commodity markets to a Trumpster the other day and that was a waste of time.
 
2022-05-17 11:17:25 AM  

NewportBarGuy: This reminds me of every class project I've ever worked on. 2 of us try to find solutions and do the project, the rest of the group are punching each other in the dick and farting on us.


Welcome to Erf
 
2022-05-17 11:37:37 AM  
I'm just so tired.
 
2022-05-17 11:38:03 AM  

NewportBarGuy: This reminds me of every class project I've ever worked on. 2 of us try to find solutions and do the project, the rest of the group are punching each other in the dick and farting on us.


Humanity in a nutshell
 
2022-05-17 11:38:33 AM  
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2022-05-17 11:38:58 AM  

cretinbob: I was explaining commodity markets to a Trumpster the other day and that was a waste of time.


Explaining economics to right wingers has been a fools errand since before i was born.

i'm 38
 
2022-05-17 11:38:59 AM  
If Biden could manage gas prices, they'd be $0.99 per gallon right now.
 
2022-05-17 11:39:11 AM  
Just like with pharma, the goal is not to find a rational price at which to sell.  Was it epinephrine that cost something like a few dollars to make and they sold it at $700 or so?
 
2022-05-17 11:41:35 AM  
if you think the Republicans are going to do anything about gas prices before the midterms then I need you to go far away.

No, keep going.  I'll say when.
 
2022-05-17 11:42:04 AM  

edmo: If Biden could manage gas prices, they'd be $0.99 per gallon right now.


Given the impact gas vehicles have on the environment, why would we WANT .99 per gallon prices?
 
2022-05-17 11:42:24 AM  
As far as the GOP is concerned, "socialism" is anything that doesn't benefit a billionaire.
 
2022-05-17 11:42:55 AM  

Gergesa: Just like with pharma, the goal is not to find a rational price at which to sell.  Was it epinephrine that cost something like a few dollars to make and they sold it at $700 or so?


Insulin is made in even larger mass production batches and they sell 10mL bottles for almost $300+ or even more without insurance. And that is just the fast acting/short term shiat.
 
2022-05-17 11:44:48 AM  
cretinbob: explaining commodity markets anything to a Trumpster the other day and that was is a waste of time.


FTFY. Don't try, it never works.
 
2022-05-17 11:45:17 AM  

edmo: If Biden could manage gas prices, they'd be $0.99 per gallon right now.


                    
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2022-05-17 11:47:09 AM  
Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.
 
2022-05-17 11:47:28 AM  
Several weeks ago, there was a fark thread (and C-SPAN link) of one of the assorted congressional committees talking with oil execs. One of the Democrats asked each of them in turn, "will you pledge to increase production and decrease profit margins to lower the cost of gasoline for Americans."

Every single exec said "Oh, we'll increase production, sure."
 
2022-05-17 11:47:42 AM  
Hear me out... if oil companies can take subsidies for drilling, then they should be subject to price caps.
 
2022-05-17 11:48:07 AM  
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2022-05-17 11:50:16 AM  
If government improves things, then the Republicans can't campaign on the government being inept. It's in their best interest to make the country worse.
 
2022-05-17 11:51:16 AM  

lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.


And?
 
2022-05-17 11:52:26 AM  
Since Democrats control both houses of Congress and the presidency, who cares what the Republicans say?
 
2022-05-17 11:52:57 AM  

A Cave Geek: edmo: If Biden could manage gas prices, they'd be $0.99 per gallon right now.

Given the impact gas vehicles have on the environment, why would we WANT .99 per gallon prices?


Agreed. Whatever hastens the transition away from fossil-fuel consumption is fine with me. Don't like high gas prices? Drive a more efficient vehicle, drive less, and/or find other modes of transportation.
 
2022-05-17 11:53:03 AM  
"I'm mad! Democrats need to fix this!"

"Okay, here's a solution."

"I don't want a solution! I want to be mad!"
 
2022-05-17 11:53:10 AM  

gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?


That's where the bill was pulled from? Didn't even get out of committee.

If dems can't pass a bill against gas price gouging, or even make Republicans pay a political price for opposing it, then JFC might as well end the session now.
 
2022-05-17 11:53:34 AM  

Bootleg: The Republicans don't want to fix the problem, Subby. They just want a convenient cudgel for the upcoming midterms.

/Would anyone be surprised if there are back-channel requests to oil companies to keep the price up for another 6 months?


As long as the American people do not make the connections between the GOP, Big Oil and Saudi Arabia -- all of which benefit from GOP policies -- it's a winning strategy.
Of course the news media not pointing out the realities helps a lot. When was the last time you saw OPEC mentioned in a gas price story?
 
2022-05-17 11:54:06 AM  
Maybe try going after grocery producers and stores also. Their price gouging during a pandemic started this mess.
Yeah, not gonna happen.
 
2022-05-17 11:54:56 AM  

A Cave Geek: edmo: If Biden could manage gas prices, they'd be $0.99 per gallon right now.

Given the impact gas vehicles have on the environment, why would we WANT .99 per gallon prices?


Cheaper.  Plus it would mangle supply.  I can't imagine the infrastructure is in place to meet that demand.
 
2022-05-17 11:55:15 AM  

A Cave Geek: edmo: If Biden could manage gas prices, they'd be $0.99 per gallon right now.

Given the impact gas vehicles have on the environment, why would we WANT .99 per gallon prices?


I agree. If I were in Biden's shoes right now, I'd leverage the high prices and double the federal taxes (or triple them, or whatever) so that gas prices will be $10/gal or more. Incentivize people to move to hybrids or EVs. Same with diesel so that trucks will also go EV as well.
 
2022-05-17 11:55:31 AM  

cretinbob: I was explaining commodity markets to a Trumpster the other day and that was a waste of time.


I would make the joke about explaining anything but a farker already got to it.

There are plenty of right wing fake Trumpsters who sure as shiat know about commodity markets. They're laughing all the way to their luxury condo where the 2000/hr hooker is currently waiting.
 
2022-05-17 11:57:37 AM  

gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?


And, that give them the power to create legislation that will die in the Senate and never reach Biden's desk.
REAL progressives are all about grand, pointless gestures.
I'm beginning to question your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
 
2022-05-17 11:59:23 AM  

dericwater: Incentivize people to move to hybrids or EVs.


Do you know what it's like to buy a new car currently? EV good luck, 6 months out maybe. Hybrid well that may get you 5-15mpg more under real world driving and if you can get one you're paying MSRP +$2K min.
 
2022-05-17 11:59:31 AM  

lincoln65: gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?

That's where the bill was pulled from? Didn't even get out of committee.

If dems can't pass a bill against gas price gouging, or even make Republicans pay a political price for opposing it, then JFC might as well end the session now.


It's easier to blame another party than for the Democrats to admit they're just as corrupt. And, look, people here on fark gobble that sh*t up like 2 girls 1 cup.
 
2022-05-17 12:01:11 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: lincoln65: gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?

That's where the bill was pulled from? Didn't even get out of committee.

If dems can't pass a bill against gas price gouging, or even make Republicans pay a political price for opposing it, then JFC might as well end the session now.

It's easier to blame another party than for the Democrats to admit they're just as corrupt. And, look, people here on fark gobble that sh*t up like 2 girls 1 cup.


Just as corrupt?  I assume you have evidence of Dems being in league with Putin to help steal an election?

Or the Dems plotting an insurrection?

With all due respect, you're not an intelligent person.
 
2022-05-17 12:01:35 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Since Democrats control both houses of Congress and the presidency, who cares what the Republicans say?


But they don't. Only the House. They only have 48 votes they can count on in the Senate.
If your premises are all false, who cares what you say?
 
2022-05-17 12:02:10 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Since Democrats control both houses of Congress and the presidency, who cares what the Republicans say?


The Senate is like a student driver car.  The driver has the illusion of full control, but the instructor has a second brake pedal that they can hit whenever they feel like.
 
2022-05-17 12:03:19 PM  

jso2897: gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?

And, that give them the power to create legislation that will die in the Senate and never reach Biden's desk.
REAL progressives are all about grand, pointless gestures.
I'm beginning to question your commitment to Sparkle Motion.


Gosh, if they can't pass real bills, and they can't pass message bills, how should the two chambers spend their time between now and November?

Doesn't seem like it's going to involve any, you know, lawmaking, so maybe they could try politics?
 
2022-05-17 12:04:40 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: lincoln65: gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?

That's where the bill was pulled from? Didn't even get out of committee.

If dems can't pass a bill against gas price gouging, or even make Republicans pay a political price for opposing it, then JFC might as well end the session now.

It's easier to blame another party than for the Democrats to admit they're just as corrupt. And, look, people here on fark gobble that sh*t up like 2 girls 1 cup.


Clearly, we should leave everything in the hands of unstable internet entrepreneurs and cast votes on the blockchain.
 
2022-05-17 12:05:56 PM  

Dinjiin: Wake Up Sheeple: Since Democrats control both houses of Congress and the presidency, who cares what the Republicans say?

The Senate is like a student driver car.  The driver has the illusion of full control, but the instructor has a second brake pedal that they can hit whenever they feel like.


The House can pass whatever they want - nothing the Right doesn't like is making it out of the Senate to Biden's desk. Not legislation, anyway.
 
2022-05-17 12:06:15 PM  
Senate majority leader is a Democrat. The independents who caucus with the Democrats for the majority aren't the ones blocking bills. And it only takes a 50 senator + 1 VP majority to pass anything through the Senate, including eliminating the filibuster.

But let's get back to how the Democrats in the House committee with a 9-4 majority pulled their own bill.

/enjoy your cup of steaming soft serve
 
2022-05-17 12:06:53 PM  

lincoln65: jso2897: gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?

And, that give them the power to create legislation that will die in the Senate and never reach Biden's desk.
REAL progressives are all about grand, pointless gestures.
I'm beginning to question your commitment to Sparkle Motion.

Gosh, if they can't pass real bills, and they can't pass message bills, how should the two chambers spend their time between now and November?

Doesn't seem like it's going to involve any, you know, lawmaking, so maybe they could try politics?


Sure thing, Bro. Whatever you say.
 
2022-05-17 12:07:27 PM  
Another measure where no filibuster would get shiat done.
 
2022-05-17 12:07:41 PM  

Gin Buddy: [Fark user image image 763x561]


Big oil? Or the Admiral and the sinner?
 
2022-05-17 12:08:20 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: dericwater: Incentivize people to move to hybrids or EVs.

Do you know what it's like to buy a new car currently? EV good luck, 6 months out maybe. Hybrid well that may get you 5-15mpg more under real world driving and if you can get one you're paying MSRP +$2K min.


Great. Then raise the taxes another $10/gal so the total price is $25/gal. Keep squeezing.
 
2022-05-17 12:10:02 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: lincoln65: gilgigamesh: lincoln65: Dems control the house Rules committee 9-4 and have a house majority.

And?

That's where the bill was pulled from? Didn't even get out of committee.

If dems can't pass a bill against gas price gouging, or even make Republicans pay a political price for opposing it, then JFC might as well end the session now.

It's easier to blame another party than for the Democrats to admit they're just as corrupt. And, look, people here on fark gobble that sh*t up like 2 girls 1 cup.


So who do you support?
 
2022-05-17 12:13:27 PM  
Shouldn't Biden's DoJ have the authority to go after price gougers?
Governors in hurricane states do that for gas stations all the time.
Wouldn't that be the best way or do you want performative bills you know can't beat a filibuster?
 
2022-05-17 12:15:07 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Senate majority leader is a Democrat. The independents who caucus with the Democrats for the majority aren't the ones blocking bills. And it only takes a 50 senator + 1 VP majority to pass anything through the Senate, including eliminating the filibuster.

But let's get back to how the Democrats in the House committee with a 9-4 majority pulled their own bill.

/enjoy your cup of steaming soft serve


I'm thinking that if the playing field doesn't change after November, they are going to kill the filibuster.
It's a fearsome step to take, and I understand the resistance to it - but the country can't sit in gridlock forever.
In my perfect world, the Dems take three seats this fall and the Senate becomes theirs for real.
But the GOP could gain ground, too. Depends on whether people turn out to vote.
They might even be the ones to kill the filibuster. If we are still left with the same situation, something is going to have to give.
 
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