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2022-05-17 12:14:06 PM  
Hail!
 
2022-05-17 2:31:36 PM  
Eh, as an Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.
 
2022-05-17 2:33:41 PM  
Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?
 
2022-05-17 2:35:21 PM  
To me you look more like #2, know what I mean?

/ what does he mean, Miss Skeffington?
 
2022-05-17 2:35:58 PM  
This used to be UVA

:(
 
2022-05-17 2:36:18 PM  
This is why, when the NCAA falls apart at the end of the Big Ten and SEC TV contracts next decade, the idea that the top football schools turning their teams into pro franchises, licensing out their name, and not requiring players to be students, will fail.  Sure, there will be some schools that will make a move, but Michigan won't for TFA's reason.

Just because a large portion of FBS schools can, doesn't mean they will.
 
2022-05-17 2:36:24 PM  
GO BLUE!!!!
 
2022-05-17 2:36:31 PM  
UC Irvine is #9... not bad for a bunch of Anteater!
// zot
https://money.com/best-colleges/
 
2022-05-17 2:37:49 PM  

chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?


Univerisity of Michigan is a great school and you won't owe much more than $130,000 by the time you graduate.
 
2022-05-17 2:38:09 PM  

Fano: This used to be UVA

:(


I guess their attitude became too cavalier.
 
2022-05-17 2:38:19 PM  
Well, that doesn't seem right ...

/Spartan
 
2022-05-17 2:38:39 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: This is why, when the NCAA falls apart at the end of the Big Ten and SEC TV contracts next decade, the idea that the top football schools turning their teams into pro franchises, licensing out their name, and not requiring players to be students, will fail.  Sure, there will be some schools that will make a move, but Michigan won't for TFA's reason.

Just because a large portion of FBS schools can, doesn't mean they will.


That basically makes it minor league pro football.  And you know how good AAA baseball and the g league draws.
 
2022-05-17 2:38:41 PM  

Aar1012: Eh, as an Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.


I grew up in Columbus, and it's sad how my first reaction to this article was to get all defensive. I didn't go to Ohio State or Michigan, and I shouldn't have a dog in this race, but I've been brainwashed from childhood.

Fark sportsball. Fark it right in the ear.
 
2022-05-17 2:41:19 PM  

PaceyWhitter: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: This is why, when the NCAA falls apart at the end of the Big Ten and SEC TV contracts next decade, the idea that the top football schools turning their teams into pro franchises, licensing out their name, and not requiring players to be students, will fail.  Sure, there will be some schools that will make a move, but Michigan won't for TFA's reason.

Just because a large portion of FBS schools can, doesn't mean they will.

That basically makes it minor league pro football.  And you know how good AAA baseball and the g league draws.


Exactly.  Some will try (I can think of 10, maybe 12 off the top of my head), but it will fail fast, and fail hard.
 
2022-05-17 2:43:16 PM  
Lol, good value at even 18,000...nope, pass.
 
2022-05-17 2:43:46 PM  

chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?


Something about The Simpsons show ???
 
2022-05-17 2:45:35 PM  
As someone who lived in the area - the people there are insufferable.

Also - even though they get a good 'value' rating, there are still many programs there not worth attending.  I can't tell you how many teachers I've known who got an education degree there.  What a waste of money.
 
2022-05-17 2:47:10 PM  
Obviously not number one when it comes to political science and current events

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2022-05-17 2:49:19 PM  

Fabric_Man: Aar1012: Eh, as an Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.

I grew up in Columbus, and it's sad how my first reaction to this article was to get all defensive. I didn't go to Ohio State or Michigan, and I shouldn't have a dog in this race, but I've been brainwashed from childhood.

Fark sportsball. Fark it right in the ear.


I grew up near Toledo so the rivalry wasn't as crazy as near CBus or up North.

But the level of happiness I had since I could type those original sentences you quoted without using a certain letter of the Alphabet is high
 
2022-05-17 2:51:37 PM  
They're like Cal-Berkeley -- public school in name, private school admissions standards. Great place to go if you can get accepted; it's not like the other land grant unis that serve their states.
 
2022-05-17 2:52:49 PM  

Aar1012: Eh, as an THE Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.


FTFE.
 
2022-05-17 2:56:13 PM  

Fano: This used to be UVA

:(


I forgot to mention them (even if they've dipped somewhat the past 25 yrs). Public school in name, private school admissions standards. Great place to attend if you can get it, but they're not like the land grant unis that serve their own states.

/u of wi keeps edging towards that sad goal, shiatting on in-state kids' opportunities by having such ridiculous admissions standards
 
2022-05-17 2:57:12 PM  

Weatherkiss: Aar1012: Eh, as an THE Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.

FTFE.


FTFtY
 
2022-05-17 2:57:45 PM  

Fano: This used to be UVA

:(


Good heavens. VCU has inched out UVA for decades!
 
2022-05-17 2:59:58 PM  
293?  Eh, I'll take it.
 
2022-05-17 3:00:26 PM  

kukukupo: As someone who lived in the area - the people there are insufferable.

Also - even though they get a good 'value' rating, there are still many programs there not worth attending.  I can't tell you how many teachers I've known who got an education degree there.  What a waste of money.


my 89 yr old long-time childhood neighbor (my mom still lives in the same place) grew up in ann arbor. she's been so kind to our family for over four decades but jesus christ she never shuts up about u of mi -- it's an endless barrage. JUST SHUT UP ABOUT ANN ARBOR
 
2022-05-17 3:02:38 PM  

chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?


Ranked by value
 
2022-05-17 3:04:29 PM  

gameshowhost: They're like Cal-Berkeley -- public school in name, private school admissions standards. Great place to go if you can get accepted; it's not like the other land grant unis that serve their states.


Exactly, my brother went there and he said it seemed like half the students were from NY. It was probably more like 30%, but it just seemed like half to him.   The school likes out of state students for the higher tuition.
 
2022-05-17 3:06:24 PM  

Raoul Eaton: chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?

Univerisity of Michigan is a great school and you won't owe much more than $130,000 by the time you graduate.


130k isnt bad if you went to U of M and got a useful degree.
 
2022-05-17 3:06:29 PM  

MrScruffles: Lol, good value at even 18,000...nope, pass.


You can go to MIT for inder 13k/yr if you can make your household income be less than 125k
 
2022-05-17 3:07:04 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: 293?  Eh, I'll take it.


i'm surprised my undergrad showed up at all. serving southwestern wi = no matter how good the uni is, the salaries will get dragged down. only saving grace in that area is that it's an engineering school, but even then a lot of undergrads end up back in the myriad smaller towns, making quite a bit less than their peers. making the top 200 is miraculous, given money magazine's rating system.

/i feel bad for laughing at w. mi's 523 because they're in a similar boat
//except with a kinda sad uni so i guess i can have a sensible chuckle ( ._.)
 
2022-05-17 3:08:37 PM  

Fabric_Man: Aar1012: Eh, as an Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.

I grew up in Columbus, and it's sad how my first reaction to this article was to get all defensive. I didn't go to Ohio State or Michigan, and I shouldn't have a dog in this race, but I've been brainwashed from childhood.

Fark sportsball. Fark it right in the ear.


My alma mater. I moved to Florida right after graduation for a few years (because if you know MI weather, FL was much better), and almost invariably, when I said I graduated from MI, I'd get a "Go Blue!" or "Wolverines!" I disappointed all of them when I said I didn't give a shiat about their football program; I was there to go to school, not a stadium.

/still like their hockey team
 
2022-05-17 3:09:32 PM  
If Mommy and Daddy are loaded and you don't mind a long history of hiding sexual abuse, sure.
 
2022-05-17 3:09:54 PM  
I teach at #20 (Berea College)
We don't charge tuition. At all.
Haven't for over a century.

Instead, we are a work college.
There are 7 of these in the U.S.

All students have a labor position (anything from farm work to teaching assistants) to offset their tuition. 80% of our students come from Appalachia.

They graduate with no debt
and years of job experience.

We even have a student-run investment fund (with REAL money) and they select the stocks on behalf of the College.
 
2022-05-17 3:10:18 PM  
Well all those douchebags in The Big Chill went there, so it's got that going for it.
 
2022-05-17 3:12:04 PM  

ctighe2353: chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?

Ranked by value


That, and the school has to have an admission rate of at least 20%.  I was surprised not to see Berkeley or Cooper Union on the list, but I guess that's why.
 
2022-05-17 3:12:17 PM  

Eightballjacket: gameshowhost: They're like Cal-Berkeley -- public school in name, private school admissions standards. Great place to go if you can get accepted; it's not like the other land grant unis that serve their states.

Exactly, my brother went there and he said it seemed like half the students were from NY. It was probably more like 30%, but it just seemed like half to him.   The school likes out of state students for the higher tuition.


uw-madison is that way too, but more chi dominant, but still nyc.

thing is, we've always had official policy that says no more than x% [x used to be 25% but got bumped to 27.5%] out of state undergrads, and the school continually goes over x% by not-insignificant margins.

i get wanting to be a premier institution. that's great! but there's a more pressing duty to educate our own, and that's being repeatedly shoved to the side way too often.
 
2022-05-17 3:13:13 PM  
That ranking was utter garbage. OK, maybe excluding schools like Harvard, Duke, and Stanford was the point of the whole list. But some notable public universities like Berkley and UCLA were absent. (I guess Michigan isn't in the same peer group as the aforementioned schools?) It's almost like declaring Michigan the top school of the second rung, which is a designation I'm sure would chaff many.
 
2022-05-17 3:16:11 PM  

i.voted.for.Drew: I teach at #20 (Berea College)
We don't charge tuition. At all.
Haven't for over a century.

Instead, we are a work college.
There are 7 of these in the U.S.

All students have a labor position (anything from farm work to teaching assistants) to offset their tuition. 80% of our students come from Appalachia.

They graduate with no debt
and years of job experience.

We even have a student-run investment fund (with REAL money) and they select the stocks on behalf of the College.


that's awesome ... but you only take in wee numbers, so only a select few benefit. it's so much easier to run a tiny institution w/ an amazing 10:1 student:faculty ratio.
 
2022-05-17 3:18:45 PM  

Fear the Clam: Well all those douchebags in The Big Chill went there, so it's got that going for it.


mrn: *stomping on thirtysomething anniversary set vhs*
 
2022-05-17 3:19:23 PM  

Melvin Lovecraft: Fabric_Man: Aar1012: Eh, as an Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.

I grew up in Columbus, and it's sad how my first reaction to this article was to get all defensive. I didn't go to Ohio State or Michigan, and I shouldn't have a dog in this race, but I've been brainwashed from childhood.

Fark sportsball. Fark it right in the ear.

My alma mater. I moved to Florida right after graduation for a few years (because if you know MI weather, FL was much better), and almost invariably, when I said I graduated from MI, I'd get a "Go Blue!" or "Wolverines!" I disappointed all of them when I said I didn't give a shiat about their football program; I was there to go to school, not a stadium.

/still like their hockey team


"I went to Ohio University"

"So you're a Buckeye then?"

"I went to Ohio *University*"
 
2022-05-17 3:19:54 PM  

Fabric_Man: Aar1012: Eh, as an Ohio State fan, I'll say that certain university up there does have a fantastic record to uphold and deserve high rankings.

I grew up in Columbus, and it's sad how my first reaction to this article was to get all defensive. I didn't go to Ohio State or Michigan, and I shouldn't have a dog in this race, but I've been brainwashed from childhood.

Fark sportsball. Fark it right in the ear.


I grew up in MI, about an hour from Ann Arbor, much closer to MSU but attended neither. I did find it funny that our high school wrestling coach sent us to OSU's summer wrestling camp. I'm guessing he got a kick-back as he knew OSU's head coach.
 
2022-05-17 3:23:47 PM  

muphasta: I grew up in MI, about an hour from Ann Arbor, much closer to MSU but attended neither.


you didn't want to participate in the Crips v. Greens affluent ecru wars?
 
2022-05-17 3:26:48 PM  
The irony of it.
 
2022-05-17 3:27:23 PM  

chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?


That Fox News and Fox affiliates are not the same thing.
 
2022-05-17 3:31:31 PM  
Yeah but you have to live in Michigan.
 
2022-05-17 3:42:39 PM  

whidbey: Yeah but you have to live in Michigan.


Subby here. Born and raised in the Great Lakes State of Michigan.  And I wouldn't have it any other way.

/So there.
 
2022-05-17 3:42:50 PM  

whidbey: Yeah but you have to live in Michigan.


As an Ohioan, and one who attended tOSU for a couple years (before transferring), my take on the state of Michigan:

Pro: They have legal pot and are bluer than Ohio (this place is turning into another Trumpistan shiathole)
Con: Marginally worse weather

/ With AGW on the march, might be an option for semi-retirement
 
2022-05-17 3:43:34 PM  

dkimball: chewd: Im not clicking on a fox link... whats the story?

Something about The Simpsons show ???


I've had JUST about enough of your Vassar bashing
 
2022-05-17 3:51:45 PM  

gameshowhost: They're like Cal-Berkeley -- public school in name, private school admissions standards. Great place to go if you can get accepted; it's not like the other land grant unis that serve their states.


Agreed. When I was there, there were a fair number of admissions for reasons other than academic excellence. Those admissions accounted for a large portion of the attrition.

Otoh, it is at times useful to be able to dodge the education question and reply, "oh, I just went to public school." 😋
 
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