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2022-05-17 8:02:47 AM  
Finally got my bi-color Sunflowers outside. First set of morning glories got killed by the frost, so I'm germinating more.
Of course, the marigolds (Mexican and french) are coming on like crazy now that the weather has turned to better.
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Sunflowers.
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A few of the marigolds.
 
2022-05-17 8:04:29 AM  

Sunidesus: Lady J: Sunidesus: Speaking of rain... how do ya'll keep track of watering and plant care notes? I am AWFUL at remembering when I did stuff so need to record it. (physical methods are better than digital for me as well)

in a... pad of paper?

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I guess I'm wondering stuff like: a page for each plant? a calendar of some sort? a day planner kind of thing? 3-ring binder so pages can move around?
There are a TON of different methods people use so I'm curious what people here do. Google turns up so. many. options.

I do realize I'm over-thinking things, but I accepted a while ago that that is my nature and it isn't worth fighting it.


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Simple. Cheap. Messy. I just scribble down things I do in the garden and scribble the date I did them.
 
2022-05-17 8:07:49 AM  

Endive Wombat: Bro. I got so good at growing plants during lockdown that I purchased my 1st "expensive' plant last month!

My Queen Anthurium!

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I also grow great weed

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Fark needs a flower button, at least for the gardening thread. Because those are beautiful. Not smart or funny but beautiful.
 
2022-05-17 8:07:51 AM  
Third year in a row some farkin bug has eaten my cabbages and cauliflowers. I suspect when I plant out the kale and broccoli that they will similarly get destroyed. Why don't these bug pricks eat my farkin weeds at the same rate as my veg!
 
2022-05-17 8:08:40 AM  

August11: Sunidesus: Lady J: Sunidesus: Speaking of rain... how do ya'll keep track of watering and plant care notes? I am AWFUL at remembering when I did stuff so need to record it. (physical methods are better than digital for me as well)

in a... pad of paper?

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I guess I'm wondering stuff like: a page for each plant? a calendar of some sort? a day planner kind of thing? 3-ring binder so pages can move around?
There are a TON of different methods people use so I'm curious what people here do. Google turns up so. many. options.

I do realize I'm over-thinking things, but I accepted a while ago that that is my nature and it isn't worth fighting it.

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Simple. Cheap. Messy. I just scribble down things I do in the garden and scribble the date I did them.


Me too!
 
2022-05-17 8:10:41 AM  

rosekolodny: I did a thing.

I dicked around and never actually made any tomato or pepper starts when I was supposed to a couple of months ago.

So today I put dirt in a million pots and put tomato and pepper seeds in them and put happy little cloches on top.

This is a grand experiment, given that we had frost last week.

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I like the fact they all have their own bat signal
 
2022-05-17 8:12:10 AM  

Sunidesus: I guess I'm wondering stuff like: a page for each plant? a calendar of some sort? a day planner kind of thing? 3-ring binder so pages can move around?
There are a TON of different methods people use so I'm curious what people here do. Google turns up so. many. options.

I do realize I'm over-thinking things, but I accepted a while ago that that is my nature and it isn't worth fighting it.


I do it by hand too, in a tatty old notebook. I usually only write down if some method works usually well (like tea made of rhubarb leaves actually helps against those fleas eating the broad beans). And I make crude unreadable drawings of what I planted where- for crop rotation.
I also have endless lists of plants I'd like to have. Our garden is quite small so usually I'm waiting for one plant to die before I search for something new.

Watering is every few days, and I don't write it down. I water the days when my youngest kids start preschool and school late plus sundays, because they love to help.
 
2022-05-17 8:14:31 AM  
Just outside my workshop, below the porch, I used to have grape vines.  But I stomped all over them rebuilding the front.  Wife was going to the garden shop last May.  I asked to pick me up a grape vine.  She'd read up.  "You're supposed to plant grapes in the fall.  They settle in over the winter.  But you won't get any grapes the first year..."  Asked anyway.  She bought the last one.  I thumped it in the ground with some manure and string.  Three days later like grapey fingers sprout.  In a month I had grapes.  The birds would fly down and steal them, mice climbed to get them, and I spooked a nibbling rabbit one morning.  So lesson is... do whatever gardening you want.
 
2022-05-17 8:16:46 AM  

I May Be Crazy But...: I went camping for two nights and lost all my seedlings.  I thought, "Hey, I've been only watering them every other day.  They'll be fine." They were not fine.  I might be able to save some, but they're pretty gone.  None have started to perk back up yet.

It's not a big deal in the hgrand scheme, but I'm not okay.


Solar powered irrigation pump with drip feeders fed from a water butt is required. They take care of themselves then.
 
2022-05-17 8:18:37 AM  
everything is popping last few days. Lettuces are in need of thinning out. I picked up some starts of shallot and garlic to augment my over winter crop that took a beating. Just to fill in the empty space.

all my starts are looking really good now. I think i packed them too tight when i put them in 4" pots. They all seem much happier in their beds.

Turned over a flower bed i tried a few years ago and threw some seed down. hopefully I have better success this time

radishes, zuchini, several types of lettuce, san marzanos (store bought), jalapeno, islero, gailo, spinach, broccoli rabe, inca jewels and lil bites toms.

thai and sweet basil, chives, greek oregano and thyme.

Last night we had threat of hail and tornado so had to rig up some shelters for the beds. luckily it was mostly just heavy rain but the cages with garbage bag covers i rigged held up very well
 
2022-05-17 8:23:08 AM  
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also some pictures!
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onions looking good
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and some garlic (this year there will be no vampires) and potatoes.

We do have lots and lots of slugs and snails too. I collect them by hand whenever I see one. When the bucket is getting crowded we let them free in the nearby woods. I suspect them of coming back. Also we've planted marigolds as sacrificial plants everywhere in between the better plants. It probably attracts them or serves as a healthy appetizer?
 
2022-05-17 8:30:29 AM  

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also some pictures!
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onions looking good
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and some garlic (this year there will be no vampires) and potatoes.

We do have lots and lots of slugs and snails too. I collect them by hand whenever I see one. When the bucket is getting crowded we let them free in the nearby woods. I suspect them of coming back. Also we've planted marigolds as sacrificial plants everywhere in between the better plants. It probably attracts them or serves as a healthy appetizer?


That looks fantastic
 
2022-05-17 8:41:41 AM  
While I am waiting for cold weather to pass, I am growing Pothos.
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They don't need much light.  You can water them a small amount once a week.  If you forget, all the leaves droop, water it and they come back up.  Comes in many varieties.
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They are also known to purify air.  Downside, toxic to children and pets.  I keep mine stashed so that the cat cannot get to it.  Have lots of these in the office at work, grow well in my office with no windows.
 
2022-05-17 8:44:06 AM  

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Sugar Rush Peach peppers. More marigold soldiers.


Those are some nice beds! I plan on taking down the privacy fence, leaving the posts up and having beds of perennial asparagus between the posts and have vines of some sort on a trellis. I can't find the video, but it was a no till method of laying down topsoil and then a layer of hay and planting the potatoes/asparagus/whatever by pushing them through the layer of hay.

Here's the video that started me down the no till path. It's fascinating

Treating the Farm as an Ecosystem with Gabe Brown Part 1, The 5 Tenets of Soil Health
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2022-05-17 8:49:45 AM  
Rising and shining!

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Just finished up the front yard bog for the moment with some giant sarracenia in the back.
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And a wee little cover for the drosera adelae, see if I can acclimate it to full sun:
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2022-05-17 8:55:44 AM  
Also, the strawberry and rhubarb patch is *roaring* along. Already made a bunch of syrups and debris

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2022-05-17 8:57:18 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: August11: [Fark user image image 425x318]
Sugar Rush Peach peppers. More marigold soldiers.

Those are some nice beds! I plan on taking down the privacy fence, leaving the posts up and having beds of perennial asparagus between the posts and have vines of some sort on a trellis. I can't find the video, but it was a no till method of laying down topsoil and then a layer of hay and planting the potatoes/asparagus/whatever by pushing them through the layer of hay.

Here's the video that started me down the no till path. It's fascinating

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I tried the Ruth Stout method for the past few years but I couldn't get it to work. There is a video of her and her no till method out there. She literally just throws the seed potatoes on the ground and then throws a clump of spoiled hay over them. I went back to the bucket method. I hope you get it to work.
 
2022-05-17 8:58:09 AM  

vegas_greaser: Grow a cactus. I can grow those and I suck at gardening


And jade plants, spider plants, aloe and radishes.
 
2022-05-17 8:59:51 AM  
There's a guy who does a lot of landscaping work in my neighborhood. Two months ago, I made a deal with him to haul 2 yards of organic compost to my garden and rototill. We just needed to wait until the ground dries out enough to till. We're still waiting...So tired of rain.
 
2022-05-17 9:01:04 AM  
I will not be getting an A in seed starting 101. I left the trays out with lids on to keep them warm, the sun popped out, and they got cooked. A single cucumber survived. Luckily, I have too many seeds, so I sowed directly last Thursday. I made a pollinator patch in the middle of the plot and those are popping out, as well as one zucchini, and a few of the radishes.

The seeds that did not have lids did much better. I managed to transplant 12 peas and it looks like 10 are enjoying their new habitat. I am going to get a soil block system, that a lot of you farkers have been using, for next time.

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But mostly, the bale garden is growing mushrooms. Another good sign of decomposition in the bales.

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I also got a dozen sunflowers in the ground. A few have been chomped by critters, but the survivors are growing fast. I went and put another 24 sunflower seeds into containers to get them started, plus a few containers with native perennials, and shade plants. There's plenty of space for them around the property.

Oh and the Arbor Day foundation delivered 10 bareroot trees that I need to find space for. I'll be outside digging as soon as I'm off the clock today.
 
2022-05-17 9:02:29 AM  
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Veggie jungle gym is good to go! Only a few things left to stick in the ground. It expanded by an additional 4' x 16' section this year for a bit more space and to have an easy way to rotate the nightshades. Bonus: less lawn.

The one quirk I'm not thrilled with is that I won't be able to take full advantage of the trellis - a wall of vines will shade whatever's growing behind - but I'm pondering solutions and experimenting by planting it more sparsely with a few shorter-growing things and putting most of the beans in pots.
 
2022-05-17 9:06:30 AM  
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I'm currently swimming in radishes. Basically it's radishes with every meal at this point.
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The peas are also taking off
 
2022-05-17 9:11:49 AM  
If you are impatient for something in the early spring, even in areas that are cold, there are many varieties of crocus.
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Mine came up in snow this year.

Snowdrops have many varieties too.
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Many kinds of Muscari as well. (aka grape hyacinths)

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Glory of the Snow is a good one.
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One of my fav's, little Iris called Iris Reticulata,

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Most of these bloomed before any of the tulips or daffodils opened.
 
2022-05-17 9:14:20 AM  
munkkiniemi:

If you've got slug problems, if you have an outdoor fire, use the left over ashes to form a barrier around whatever you're trying to protect. There is a lot of salt that gets made during the burning process, and slugs won't cross it. We use the same process to protect our mushroom logs. Just don't get any ashes on your plants because it'll kill them.
 
2022-05-17 9:17:12 AM  

beerrun: Peppers in our Earthboxes do extremely well every year. This year is no exception as jalepeno, habenero, ghost, tabasco and bell peppers all producing. The tabasco bush is at least 4 ft tall and must have over 100 pods in various stages of ripeness. One ghost plant is a holdover from last year and is yielding some really nice, large pods. Counted at least 15 pods on the jalepeno with several ready to harvest. In years past, we've had problems with whiteflies but this year amongst the pepper plants we've planted basil, mint, lemongrass and society garlic and haven't seen a one. Pics when I get a chance.


I wouldn't attempt to grow tomatoes or peppers without Earthboxes. They make it easy.
I've been taking my plants outside to begin gardening off before I plant them next week. They are so ready to get out of the greenhouses. Some have already begun flowering even though I myself was a late bloomer.
I went to a plant exchange last weekend and picked up a habenada - a habanero variety that tastes like citrus with no heat? Has anyone tasted one?
 
2022-05-17 9:21:04 AM  
I tried my hand at reproducing my beloved succulent who got too leggy in my new office (not enough light, apparently) and cutting it up to make new succulents.  Its leaves went into 13 little pots, and three months later I have four new succulents growing, four definitely failed to start, and five more that appear to still be viable but haven't broken the surface yet.
 
2022-05-17 9:25:29 AM  

AlgaeRancher: cretinbob: I got a job doing cemetery grounds keeping last week...
I'm so sore and it feels so good

I am glad the topic of discussion is gardening.

Otherwise that statement sounds... wrong


Anybody got tips on how to best deal with unwelcome vines?


You pour dem vite down deh drain.
 
2022-05-17 9:31:29 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Anybody got tips on how to best deal with unwelcome vines?


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I have no special tricks. I just remember that when we moved into the current house in the fall a few years there were thick mats of dead vines covering a sizable wooded section of our backyard. The prior owner had nuked the area with some kind of herbicide. I cleared out a ridiculous quantity of dead vines. It appeared to have killed everything, but as I learned the following spring, that didn't stop the winter creeper. I've been pulling and digging it out of the ground ever since.

That first year was the worst. It still comes up here and there, but far, far less. I pull maybe a dozen sprouts a week this time and year and less later. Persistence. If I let it go, it would take over again.

Now that area is stuff we've planted and other native plants that got there on their own instead of a huge mat of winter creeper. Okay, the hostas and coral bells we planted aren't native, but we've added columbine, may apples, wild geranium, ginger, a little Virginia creeper (that I will not let take over), ferns, and I forget what else that are native.

Winter creeper? EXTERMINATE!
 
2022-05-17 9:34:37 AM  

ModernPrimitive01: munkkiniemi:

If you've got slug problems, if you have an outdoor fire, use the left over ashes to form a barrier around whatever you're trying to protect. There is a lot of salt that gets made during the burning process, and slugs won't cross it. We use the same process to protect our mushroom logs. Just don't get any ashes on your plants because it'll kill them.


Thank you, I will try that!
 
2022-05-17 9:34:46 AM  

AlgaeRancher: cretinbob: I got a job doing cemetery grounds keeping last week...
I'm so sore and it feels so good

I am glad the topic of discussion is gardening.

Otherwise that statement sounds... wrong


Anybody got tips on how to best deal with unwelcome vines?


What's the problem? Too close to other plants for spraying vegetation killer, or just don't want to use chemicals? If it's the first, I saw a tip on This Old House once, use a paint brush and "paint" the killer on the leaves. If it's the second, I don't know; I just use the chemicals. The vines I deal with aren't near anything I'm going to eat. (Although I did almost kill the lilac bushes with it last year, but they're still going.)
 
2022-05-17 9:41:31 AM  
So i have a question. Out in front of my house we have a big area that i put mums in every fall. Gives it some nice color come september\october.

Each year a few of them make it through the winter, which is nice, because i have to buy less and less each year. This year was pretty mild, and a good number survived.

Except they sort of look like weeds in the bedding area they are in now. Is there anything i can do to kind of dress it up a bit that would be compatible with the mums, so i have color there during the spring\summer, and possibly also make it through the winter? We have tried stuff like tulips and what not in the past, but they rarely last more than a few days before the wildlife goes to town on them.

The area previously had a large tree on it that came down, so i've been struggling with how to dress it up. We put in a new cherry tree, which, looks awesome for 2 weeks, but now its all back to greenery and i have a lot of barren space around it.
 
2022-05-17 9:58:25 AM  

LineNoise: So i have a question. Out in front of my house we have a big area that i put mums in every fall. Gives it some nice color come september\october.

Each year a few of them make it through the winter, which is nice, because i have to buy less and less each year. This year was pretty mild, and a good number survived.

Except they sort of look like weeds in the bedding area they are in now. Is there anything i can do to kind of dress it up a bit that would be compatible with the mums, so i have color there during the spring\summer, and possibly also make it through the winter? We have tried stuff like tulips and what not in the past, but they rarely last more than a few days before the wildlife goes to town on them.

The area previously had a large tree on it that came down, so i've been struggling with how to dress it up. We put in a new cherry tree, which, looks awesome for 2 weeks, but now its all back to greenery and i have a lot of barren space around it.


lavender ? purple flowers. needs full sun. always green etc
 
2022-05-17 9:59:08 AM  
I'm glad to see so many gardeners here on fark. Maybe our governments planned food shortages won't be so bad lol.
 
2022-05-17 10:01:47 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So this is what greeted me this morning as I woke up:

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I love snow, but... Yeah.  May.  MID-May.

I will never garden again.  EVAR.


I'm sorry.  But I hope you will.
 
2022-05-17 10:22:19 AM  

kdawg7736: I would like to try potatoes. Maybe a more exotic pepper as well. So food, yes.


Potatoes are one of those things that people don't grow because they think there's little difference between store potatoes and ones you grow.  That is not true.  The first time I grew potatoes I was astonished at how much better home grown ones are.  It's not quite as profound a difference as tomatoes but it's still a big step up.
 
2022-05-17 10:25:51 AM  
Will start planting cold weather crops this week.
Lilacs leaves are happening.

The Trillium is in bloom, and got one daffodil

looking green outside
 
2022-05-17 10:29:50 AM  
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That's hardware and wiring progress for drip irrigation system. I get the last adaptors later this week, and I'll complete the wiring this week as well. Pvc is done and fully leak checked, and the inline pump works like a charm.

Just in time to get tomatoes, cucumbers, and eggplants in the ground. If I get my butt in gear I'll have version 0.9 of the software done by memorial day.
 
2022-05-17 10:30:50 AM  

knobmaker: kdawg7736: I would like to try potatoes. Maybe a more exotic pepper as well. So food, yes.

Potatoes are one of those things that people don't grow because they think there's little difference between store potatoes and ones you grow.  That is not true.  The first time I grew potatoes I was astonished at how much better home grown ones are.  It's not quite as profound a difference as tomatoes but it's still a big step up.


And they're so easy! My husband bought me bags to plant in this year. Plant potato seed. When they leaf out, cover with more soil. Rinse and repeat. Water regularly and wait until fall.
I got some free organic purple potato seed from the state extension office and Yukon gold seeds, so my two bags are full.
 
2022-05-17 10:36:12 AM  

LineNoise: So i have a question. Out in front of my house we have a big area that i put mums in every fall. Gives it some nice color come september\october.

Each year a few of them make it through the winter, which is nice, because i have to buy less and less each year. This year was pretty mild, and a good number survived.

Except they sort of look like weeds in the bedding area they are in now. Is there anything i can do to kind of dress it up a bit that would be compatible with the mums, so i have color there during the spring\summer, and possibly also make it through the winter? We have tried stuff like tulips and what not in the past, but they rarely last more than a few days before the wildlife goes to town on them.

The area previously had a large tree on it that came down, so i've been struggling with how to dress it up. We put in a new cherry tree, which, looks awesome for 2 weeks, but now its all back to greenery and i have a lot of barren space around it.


we have them mixed with coneflowers (rudbeckia and echinacea) , and there are roses, lavender and  larkspur next to that. They all are doing fine together.
Roses and lavender start flowering about now, the coneflowers and larkspur in the summer and finally the mums..
Can't find a picture now (also I'm at work but gardens are so much more interesting).
 
2022-05-17 10:39:31 AM  
The garlic is making a brave show and the asparagus is coming on.  I'm not a huge asparagus fan but Mrs. knobmaker loves the stuff.  I will admit that the home grown spears are a lot better than any we've bought.  They  don't even make your pee smell funny.

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2022-05-17 10:40:46 AM  

Omnivorous: I'm beginning to think I will never grow anything ever again. Please come in and convince me otherwise

Get yourself an AeroGarden, a hydroponic system that's pretty simple.  (Scotts MiracleGro owns the company.)
This advice is best in October, at the end of the outdoor growing season, but we use ours year-around for bok choy, lettuces and herbs -- some of which do poorly in summer heat.

You'll likely find yourself cycling the garden every 60-90 days, at least we do with the 9-slot garden.  We'll grow bok choy and lettuce over the summer but inside where they won't bolt quickly.

The real joy with the hydroponic gardens is during the short winter days when they're a bright spot of light and green.


I use my aerogarden in Feb and March for starting things from seed. Just don't wait too long for transplanting to dirt or you'll kill too many rootlets.
 
2022-05-17 10:45:45 AM  
Thats garlic in thd back, then dill and sorrel that i just planted the other day. Fennel from seed has just sprouted - going to try to make pastis from scratch.
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2022-05-17 10:51:39 AM  
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Herb bed. That big thing is lovage; it died back to the ground over the winter but started thriving in March under the hoop. (Hoops came off sunday!!!).  Lovage leaves taste like a cross between parsley and celery, and as you can see its very prolific, so i throw a handful in salads all the time.

I am still having trouble finding marjoram starts. Every place I check is either getting it on the next truck, or had some yesterday but it's already been sold.
 
2022-05-17 10:53:01 AM  
Peas, lettuce, Mizuno, collards, Chard doing fine. Beets struggling, no luck with celery. And the dwarf sunflowers I put along the driveway have sprouted!
 
2022-05-17 10:54:44 AM  
Huge week for the Catmandu garden. I picked up my plants on Wednesday and did the patio planters the same day

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Over the last few days I composted, tilled, planted, and mulched the tomato garden and planted the veggie grow bags.

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These are the cucumbers. I am going to build an A-frame trellis once they emerge. The round bag is the pole beans and I will finish setting up the string tower after those come up.
 
2022-05-17 10:56:34 AM  

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I'm currently swimming in radishes. Basically it's radishes with every meal at this point.
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The peas are also taking off


I've had luck making radish pickles, using a basic bread-and-butter recipe. You might give that a whirl and put some up to go with pulled pork in the fall and winter.
 
2022-05-17 10:59:37 AM  
Once a week until the first of July then stop.

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2022-05-17 11:04:08 AM  
My neighbor 2 doors down and I planned an herb garden in the space of the end townhouse. The owner has mobility issues and has no interest in planting and has trouble with doing the weeding so the deal is that my neighbor and I would use the place and plant our herbs and maintain the space. In exchange, she can use some herbs and put out some cute decorations like solar flowers, etc.

Here it is except the mulching

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Also, my columnar apple trees broke dormancy and are budding out!

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2022-05-17 11:05:19 AM  
Sunny, I almost didn't grow anything this year either, didn't start any seeds at all.

Went to the garden center and bought some starts and it feels good to go though the ritual of planting.

Take your time, keep it modest, but don't give up.
 
2022-05-17 11:17:56 AM  

FrancoFile: Omnivorous: I'm beginning to think I will never grow anything ever again. Please come in and convince me otherwise

Get yourself an AeroGarden, a hydroponic system that's pretty simple.  (Scotts MiracleGro owns the company.)
This advice is best in October, at the end of the outdoor growing season, but we use ours year-around for bok choy, lettuces and herbs -- some of which do poorly in summer heat.

You'll likely find yourself cycling the garden every 60-90 days, at least we do with the 9-slot garden.  We'll grow bok choy and lettuce over the summer but inside where they won't bolt quickly.

The real joy with the hydroponic gardens is during the short winter days when they're a bright spot of light and green.

I use my aerogarden in Feb and March for starting things from seed. Just don't wait too long for transplanting to dirt or you'll kill too many rootlets.


I have a knock-off aero garden that has 4 removable containers, each can hold 5 plugs. The good thing about this is that I can transplant the seedlings into small nursery pots and put the pots where the container was. I was able to bring almost every seedling to planting size. Only lost 2 Thyme but all the tomatoes and basil grew. I even had a mystery plant. I found some seeds in my desk drawer from a few years ago that failed to start, there were 2 left so I figured "why not". I knew they were some kind of annual flower. Well, I started 2, 1 came up and I am now the proud owner of a small monkey flower on my patio

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The hydroponic unit I use:

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