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(Automotive News)   In related news, the car subby ordered from Carvana in April is still experiencing "transportation delays"   (autonews.com) divider line
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2022-05-16 10:24:37 PM  
Maybe they shouldn't have laid off the delivery guys.
 
2022-05-16 10:30:27 PM  
In the good old days of Wild West Texas Accounting, Datapoint would just ship those "unfinished" cars around the block at the end of the quarter.  It's what goes out the loading dock that's counted as revenues.

It didn't matter that they were back on the loading dock Day 1 of the next quarter.  That's a Ponzi scheme to be dealt with NEXT quarter.
 
2022-05-16 10:33:39 PM  
Take a bus, pick it up.
Charge them for the pick up
 
2022-05-16 10:40:40 PM  
They just got permission to build a Vending Machine in Skokie next to the highway.
It is primarily intended as a billboard with a building attached because stand alone billboards are not allowed.  Wonder if this will affect their plans.
 
2022-05-16 10:41:33 PM  
Looks like Carvana is catching up with Vroom's low customer service
 
2022-05-16 11:00:27 PM  
There is a point at which depreciation on the car adds up to quite a bit of money. Cars do not last forever. If the useful life of a vehicle is 10 years, and one has to wait for a year to get "the car," then are you down to 9 years of useful life? Maybe. Someone pays for that. If you go by model years. Vehicle wear and tear do not make a car obsolete... the model year makes it obsolete.

I have been patient while waiting for a car, and it was all fun and games at first, but ... there is loss taking place here, and a shrug is not going to do it at some point.

Ordered through Toyota in Dec. Still waiting. May has become July ish. Kind of grrr.

There should be no excuse for used cars and vehicles that have already been produced. Time is money.
 
2022-05-16 11:05:20 PM  
A bum is currently shiatting/jerking off into it.
 
2022-05-16 11:07:28 PM  

neongoats: A bum is currently shiatting/jerking off into it.


Several bums they call it a soup kitchen.
 
2022-05-16 11:21:56 PM  

2fardownthread: There is a point at which depreciation on the car adds up to quite a bit of money. Cars do not last forever. If the useful life of a vehicle is 10 years, and one has to wait for a year to get "the car," then are you down to 9 years of useful life? Maybe. Someone pays for that. If you go by model years. Vehicle wear and tear do not make a car obsolete... the model year makes it obsolete.

I have been patient while waiting for a car, and it was all fun and games at first, but ... there is loss taking place here, and a shrug is not going to do it at some point.

Ordered through Toyota in Dec. Still waiting. May has become July ish. Kind of grrr.

There should be no excuse for used cars and vehicles that have already been produced. Time is money.


After a year the value of the car drops vastly in any case, as it's no longer a current model

/probably less depending on when it was ordered, but after a year definitely
 
2022-05-16 11:37:04 PM  
Sorry, it's still drying out.
 
2022-05-16 11:37:08 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: 2fardownthread: There is a point at which depreciation on the car adds up to quite a bit of money. Cars do not last forever. If the useful life of a vehicle is 10 years, and one has to wait for a year to get "the car," then are you down to 9 years of useful life? Maybe. Someone pays for that. If you go by model years. Vehicle wear and tear do not make a car obsolete... the model year makes it obsolete.
I have been patient while waiting for a car, and it was all fun and games at first, but ... there is loss taking place here, and a shrug is not going to do it at some point.
Ordered through Toyota in Dec. Still waiting. May has become July ish. Kind of grrr.
There should be no excuse for used cars and vehicles that have already been produced. Time is money.
After a year the value of the car drops vastly in any case, as it's no longer a current model
/probably less depending on when it was ordered, but after a year definitely


Maybe you should buy "a car" instead of "the car."  Maybe everyone should, instead of whining about it.
 
2022-05-17 12:03:20 AM  

cryinoutloud: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: 2fardownthread: There is a point at which depreciation on the car adds up to quite a bit of money. Cars do not last forever. If the useful life of a vehicle is 10 years, and one has to wait for a year to get "the car," then are you down to 9 years of useful life? Maybe. Someone pays for that. If you go by model years. Vehicle wear and tear do not make a car obsolete... the model year makes it obsolete.
I have been patient while waiting for a car, and it was all fun and games at first, but ... there is loss taking place here, and a shrug is not going to do it at some point.
Ordered through Toyota in Dec. Still waiting. May has become July ish. Kind of grrr.
There should be no excuse for used cars and vehicles that have already been produced. Time is money.
After a year the value of the car drops vastly in any case, as it's no longer a current model
/probably less depending on when it was ordered, but after a year definitely

Maybe you should buy "a car" instead of "the car."  Maybe everyone should, instead of whining about it.


I couldn't afford the worst old clunker - but some people do buy them in expectation of resale.  If a dealer can't support that that's fine, but telling a buyer you can and then not delivering is just failing to meet the agreement
 
2022-05-17 2:06:40 AM  
Haven't they been taking heat from Florida for the same thing?  State law says a dealer is required to provide the title within 30 days of purchase and they apparently are unable or unwilling to comply.  Of course, because it's Florida, instead of actually making Carvana follow the rules a lawmaker instead proposed legislation to remove the 30 day requirement.
 
2022-05-17 4:55:49 AM  

2fardownthread: There is a point at which depreciation on the car adds up to quite a bit of money. Cars do not last forever. If the useful life of a vehicle is 10 years, and one has to wait for a year to get "the car," then are you down to 9 years of useful life? Maybe. Someone pays for that. If you go by model years. Vehicle wear and tear do not make a car obsolete... the model year makes it obsolete.

I have been patient while waiting for a car, and it was all fun and games at first, but ... there is loss taking place here, and a shrug is not going to do it at some point.

Ordered through Toyota in Dec. Still waiting. May has become July ish. Kind of grrr.

There should be no excuse for used cars and vehicles that have already been produced. Time is money.


My only car is a 2018 i bought new and it has 6700 miles. I didn't know it's life is almost half over.
 
2022-05-17 5:38:18 AM  
Wife just ordered a new car. It's a Korean brand that is trying to make it Japan after a failed attempt some decades ago. The deal is almost too good to be true, and they think they can deliver in July. I donno if they're trying to make a push, or if they'd determined all the prices before the Yen took a shiat.

I'll be ecstatic if it really comes on time. We'll be set on cars for at least the next decade.
 
2022-05-17 7:38:38 AM  
Why the fark would you buy a used car for 'delivery' without seeing, driving, licking the dash and peeing on the tires of the car first?

It just strikes me as an absurd amount of trust to put into a used car dealer over the internet.
 
2022-05-17 7:45:59 AM  

2fardownthread: There is a point at which depreciation on the car adds up to quite a bit of money. Cars do not last forever. If the useful life of a vehicle is 10 years, and one has to wait for a year to get "the car," then are you down to 9 years of useful life? Maybe. Someone pays for that. If you go by model years. Vehicle wear and tear do not make a car obsolete... the model year makes it obsolete.

I have been patient while waiting for a car, and it was all fun and games at first, but ... there is loss taking place here, and a shrug is not going to do it at some point.

Ordered through Toyota in Dec. Still waiting. May has become July ish. Kind of grrr.

There should be no excuse for used cars and vehicles that have already been produced. Time is money.


10 years? That may have been the case 40 years ago, or today with high performance cars that you put a lot of miles on each year. 200k miles should be doable with most new cars, and if you drive an average of 10k miles a year, that's 20 years.

My last car, a Buick POS that I inherited from my grandfather, made it to 14 years before I sold it. While the engine was in good condition, I sold it because I was paying $500+ in repairs each for random crap like the driver's door handle breaking and the ABS computer malfunctioning. Once the resell value dropped to $2k, it didn't seem like it made much sense to keep spending so much on repairs.

Anyway, I replaced it with a 2.5 year-old used Honda Civic. It ain't the sexiest car, but the MPG is fantastic, it costs very little to maintain, and I could probably squeeze 25 years out of it (but I think I'll replace with an EV once the vehicle market calms down).
 
2022-05-17 8:01:27 AM  

optikeye: Why the fark would you buy a used car for 'delivery' without seeing, driving, licking the dash and peeing on the tires of the car first?

It just strikes me as an absurd amount of trust to put into a used car dealer over the internet.


Carvana gives you seven days after pickup or delivery to change your mind and return it. I think it's one of the reasons they're running into issues with temporary plates, since they need to put them on every car they sell, even if the purchaser is transferring plates from their previous car.
 
2022-05-17 10:01:04 AM  
This is what they mean when they say, "move fast and break things."
 
2022-05-17 1:35:20 PM  

Johnson: They just got permission to build a Vending Machine in Skokie next to the highway.
It is primarily intended as a billboard with a building attached because stand alone billboards are not allowed.  Wonder if this will affect their plans.


Just learned today that the Village has notified Carvana that despite the fact they own the land, they cannot do ANY work on it or apply for any permits or even CONTACT the Village for ANY REASON until the State of IL restores their business license!
 
2022-05-17 2:17:17 PM  

Trainspotr: optikeye: Why the fark would you buy a used car for 'delivery' without seeing, driving, licking the dash and peeing on the tires of the car first?

It just strikes me as an absurd amount of trust to put into a used car dealer over the internet.

Carvana gives you seven days after pickup or delivery to change your mind and return it. I think it's one of the reasons they're running into issues with temporary plates, since they need to put them on every car they sell, even if the purchaser is transferring plates from their previous car.


They're running into issues with temp tags because they're not delivering the title to the new owner within 30 days, so they keep sticking temp tag after temp tag on the car.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/carvana-car-buyers-without-title
https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/better-call-behnken/florida-threatens-to-pull-carvanas-dealer-license-over-ongoing-title-issues/
https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/better-call-behnken/carvana-faces-2-class-action-lawsuits-over-registration-delays-amid-deadline-to-fix-title-problems-in-florida/
 
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