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(Yahoo)   If the US had the same COVID death rate as Australia, 900,000 fewer lives would have been lost. It's as if they're trying hard NOT to kill each other   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-05-16 5:49:08 PM  
Now do the same math for guns. It's even more sad.
 
2022-05-16 6:27:04 PM  
Masks work?  Vaccines work? Lockdowns work?  Pfft.  My brother's wife's cousin's best friend died at 31 Flavors after she saw someone who was vaccinated so I don't think the science is settled.
 
2022-05-16 7:13:54 PM  
Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.
 
2022-05-16 7:18:40 PM  
When everything else is they've got to stick together.
 
2022-05-16 7:20:46 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


The population is not evenly distributed across the country.
 
2022-05-16 7:44:42 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


Montana has one of the highest Covid rates in the country.

The density of the population isn't as important as the density of people's heads.
 
2022-05-16 7:52:36 PM  

a particular individual: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

Montana has one of the highest Covid rates in the country.

The density of the population isn't as important as the density of people's heads.


Australians have a better developed sense of self preservation.

/for some reason
 
2022-05-16 8:04:18 PM  

revrendjim: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

The population is not evenly distributed across the country.


Neither is Montana's.
 
2022-05-16 8:19:57 PM  
We never had a lockdown. Left, Right, vaxxed, unvaxxed, enough little impatient American assholes decided that they couldn't be inconvenienced for a few weeks. How was the trip to Six Flags? Did you enjoy the cruise? Gotta have Thanksgiving don't ya know. Can't miss a holiday.
 
2022-05-16 8:20:10 PM  
'Murica
 
2022-05-16 8:22:58 PM  
I think it's because all the snakes, scorpions, sharks, spiders, drop bears, vegemite etc etc probably kill off most the virus before it has a chance to take hold of the prisone.., er, citizenry.
 
2022-05-16 8:24:33 PM  
That's nice, subby.
 
2022-05-16 8:25:03 PM  
One early initiative was to set up a National Cabinet, including all state and federal leaders and health ministers, regardless of the political parties involved.

They would try, and mostly succeeded, in setting out policies and programs that would be rolled out in all jurisdictions.

Not perfect, but better than everyone trying to do their own thing, because Freedoms...
 
2022-05-16 8:26:39 PM  

foo monkey: revrendjim: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

The population is not evenly distributed across the country.

Neither is Montana's.


Australia has cities far denser than anything in Montana.
 
2022-05-16 8:28:46 PM  

enry: Masks work?  Vaccines work? Lockdowns work?  Pfft.  My brother's wife's cousin's best friend died at 31 Flavors after she saw someone who was vaccinated so I don't think the science is settled.


That's b/c she ordered off menu, the secret 32nd flavor.

/the flavor is death
 
2022-05-16 8:28:54 PM  
I have a few friends that live in Australia, and they were not at all happy at the lengths their country went to in order to keep the spread of COVID under control. But at least they're all still alive.
 
2022-05-16 8:29:41 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


Let's compare with Montana then- which has 12 times the death rate that Australia has.
 
2022-05-16 8:30:17 PM  
It's not a competition. Get vaccinated.
 
2022-05-16 8:32:32 PM  
It's somewhat surprising, given that literally everything in Australia is trying to kill you, or so I've heard, every day, on Fark, for decades.
 
2022-05-16 8:34:53 PM  

raygundan: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

Let's compare with Montana then- which has 12 times the death rate that Australia has.


This show made it seem like Montana had a murder rate somewhere in the Cabot Cove zone.

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2022-05-16 8:35:34 PM  

MacWizard: I have a few friends that live in Australia, and they were not at all happy at the lengths their country went to in order to keep the spread of COVID under control. But at least they're all still alive.


And that is the key to a public health emergency response.

Be inconvenienced now, live to tell stories about it later.

/unfortunately our leadership undermined the experts instead of supporting them and over a 900,000 people have died for it. With millions more taking long term health problems from a preventable illness.
 
2022-05-16 8:37:17 PM  

AlgaeRancher: a particular individual: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

Montana has one of the highest Covid rates in the country.

The density of the population isn't as important as the density of people's heads.

Australians have a better developed sense of self preservation.

/for some reason


Because white Europeans weren't supposed to be living there?
 
2022-05-16 8:37:20 PM  
I wonder what the death rate difference was among non-obese, non-diabetic people. Like apples-to-apples. Was the case rate that much different, or just the death rate?
Australia ~ 25k cases /100,000
US ~ 24k cases/100,000

https://covid19.who.int/region/wpro/country/au
 
2022-05-16 8:37:33 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


And Japan so far has had 233 deaths per million. Less than a tenth of the death rate the US suffered and ten times the population density.

The past is the past and there's no way of bringing back the lives lost. You're always going to find one country is an island nation, another has low population density, yet another has high trust in its government and so on.

The fact is the United States is the richest country in the history of the planet with resources that are almost limitless in comparison with the rest of the planet. The finest medical minds, the best research facilities and it completely and utterly failed to protect its citizenry.

There are going to be more pandemics in the future. And the worst thing for Americans is to think that this experience was the nation's best effort. That there are no lessons that can be drawn from other countries. Because down that path is yet more needless death and grief.
 
2022-05-16 8:37:45 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


I was under the impression that the vast majority of their population is clustered in a few major cities around the coasts, with the outback about as populated as Wyoming. Australia has about 26M people.
 
2022-05-16 8:37:55 PM  

MacWizard: I have a few friends that live in Australia, and they were not at all happy at the lengths their country went to in order to keep the spread of COVID under control. But at least they're all still alive.


Pretty dumb thing to be unhappy about, then.
 
2022-05-16 8:38:48 PM  

LarrySouth: One early initiative was to set up a National Cabinet, including all state and federal leaders and health ministers, regardless of the political parties involved.

They would try, and mostly succeeded, in setting out policies and programs that would be rolled out in all jurisdictions.

Not perfect, but better than everyone trying to do their own thing, because Freedoms...


Didn't Trumpys administration trash a 118 page pandemic plan just because it came from the Obama administration?
 
2022-05-16 8:40:17 PM  

austerity101: AlgaeRancher: a particular individual: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

Montana has one of the highest Covid rates in the country.

The density of the population isn't as important as the density of people's heads.

Australians have a better developed sense of self preservation.

/for some reason

Because white Europeans weren't supposed to be living there?


If they didn't want to get sent to Australia they shouldn't have committed crimes against the crown
 
2022-05-16 8:40:23 PM  

a particular individual: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

Montana has one of the highest Covid rates in the country.

The density of the population isn't as important as the density of people's heads.


And we're done here.
 
2022-05-16 8:40:44 PM  
We had Trump with his light bulb and bleach ..
 
2022-05-16 8:41:15 PM  
Has anyone mentioned Montana? No? I'm the first one, then? Sweet.
 
2022-05-16 8:41:22 PM  

Valter: It's not a competition. Get vaccinated.


It most certainly is a competition.

Whichever country controls Covid the best will have the economy that recovers the quickest.
 
2022-05-16 8:43:09 PM  

thisispete: The fact is the United States is the richest country in the history of the planet with resources that are almost limitless in comparison with the rest of the planet. The finest medical minds, the best research facilities and it completely and utterly failed to protect its citizenry.


Oh, it did just fine. The problem is that the citizenry are a bunch of dumbasses who wanted to drink bleach, eat horse paste, pretend that filters just all of a sudden quite working, believed that vaccines are deadly, and thought they had some kind of god-given right to go breathe on each other at Applebees, because ain't no egghead scientist going to tell them what to do, they have their FREEDUMBS.
 
2022-05-16 8:43:22 PM  
Not as many people down under are
 
2022-05-16 8:44:10 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


Look at the big brain not falling for subby's bullshiat.
 
2022-05-16 8:45:14 PM  

Al Tsheimers: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

I was under the impression that the vast majority of their population is clustered in a few major cities around the coasts, with the outback about as populated as Wyoming. Australia has about 26M people.


Aussie here.  Spot on.  No one actually lives in the Real Australia (tm).

Except my aged auntie in Broken Hill.
 
2022-05-16 8:49:46 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


The US is 82% urban, Australia 86%

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-urbanized-countries
 
2022-05-16 8:51:32 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


Australia's secret is the population density of Americans living there.
 
2022-05-16 8:51:39 PM  
IIRC, some guys in Australia were arrested for trying to smuggle KFC into another town.  Yeesh.
 
2022-05-16 8:51:44 PM  

MacWizard: I have a few friends that live in Australia, and they were not at all happy at the lengths their country went to in order to keep the spread of COVID under control. But at least they're all still alive.


I have a friend in NZ. He grumbled a lot. But just general grumbling. He appreciated the whole...not getting sick thing.
 
2022-05-16 8:51:47 PM  

threedingers: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

The US is 82% urban, Australia 86%

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-urbanized-countries


This is why we let those rural states run everything and pretend it's balanced.
 
2022-05-16 8:52:30 PM  

Dave2042: Al Tsheimers: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

I was under the impression that the vast majority of their population is clustered in a few major cities around the coasts, with the outback about as populated as Wyoming. Australia has about 26M people.

Aussie here.  Spot on.  No one actually lives in the Real Australia (tm).

Except my aged auntie in Broken Hill.


Hell of a lot of pubs in Broken Hill, that's for sure, I've never seen anything like it.  (Haven't been there for 20 years or so but I a assume nothing's changed.
 
2022-05-16 8:54:23 PM  

RolfBlitzer: Not as many people down under are


ʎɐs noʎ llǝɥ ɐp
 
2022-05-16 8:55:27 PM  
MAGA for the win.

"It's their new hoax." -TFG
 
2022-05-16 8:57:56 PM  

a particular individual: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

Montana has one of the highest Covid rates in the country.

The density of the population isn't as important as the density of people's heads.


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2022-05-16 9:00:38 PM  
If you don't like it, leave
 
2022-05-16 9:00:38 PM  
*Adds Australia to list of possible bail countries*
 
2022-05-16 9:01:39 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: Has anyone mentioned Montana? No? I'm the first one, then? Sweet.


I would like to have seen someone mention Montana.
 
2022-05-16 9:03:36 PM  

El Rich-o: Dave2042: Al Tsheimers: foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.

I was under the impression that the vast majority of their population is clustered in a few major cities around the coasts, with the outback about as populated as Wyoming. Australia has about 26M people.

Aussie here.  Spot on.  No one actually lives in the Real Australia (tm).

Except my aged auntie in Broken Hill.

Hell of a lot of pubs in Broken Hill, that's for sure, I've never seen anything like it.  (Haven't been there for 20 years or so but I a assume nothing's changed.


The everybody-dying-or-leaving-after-which-the-desert-will-bury-it process has advanced a lot since then.
Still a nice town when I visited 18 months ago.  But I don't think it will still be there in 50 years.
 
2022-05-16 9:04:22 PM  

foo monkey: Australia has a population density rivalling Montana.


How did Australia do relative to Montana?
 
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