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(CNN)   Agreement between FDA and company behind shut down manufacturing plant means the baby formula crisis may soon be weaning   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-05-16 9:38:01 PM  
How is babby formula formed?
 
2022-05-16 9:39:37 PM  
So did the government pay to fix the process equipment or did they make the company get the money back from the stock buybacks to pay for repairs?
 
2022-05-16 9:39:40 PM  
why are Americans so stoopid? Most women can NURSE, ffs, and don't need crappy formula
 
2022-05-16 9:40:03 PM  
Thank goodness. My nipples are sore from feeding all the neighbour kids.
 
2022-05-16 9:40:46 PM  
Weaners!
 
2022-05-16 9:41:16 PM  
I'd imagine it won't do anything to soothe the GQP's constant bawling over the situation though. They know it's all daddy's fault and they're mad enough to shiat their diapers...
 
2022-05-16 9:41:21 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: why are Americans so stoopid? Most women can NURSE, ffs, and don't need crappy formula


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2022-05-16 9:41:24 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: How is babby formula formed?


They need to do way instain mother.

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2022-05-16 9:41:32 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: How is babby formula formed?


Well, when a Daddy loves a Mommy very much, he puts his wee-wee in her hoo-ha.
 
2022-05-16 9:43:29 PM  
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2022-05-16 9:44:16 PM  
Why do I suspect this "shortage" was used as leverage for the FDA not to drop the fine hammer.
 
2022-05-16 9:44:53 PM  
No. They should be arresting these people. Not giving them a bailout.
 
2022-05-16 9:45:43 PM  
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I should manufacture and sell bootleg baby formula.
 
2022-05-16 9:47:54 PM  
Hey there's nothing wrong with a monopoly, though, that guy with the top hat and big bag of money is adorable, not our worst enemy
 
2022-05-16 9:48:33 PM  
Does this make Abbot too boob to fail?
 
2022-05-16 9:49:42 PM  
My kid was on this formula around that time, I don't remember there being any problems, thank God.

This stuff is really bad news https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/cronobacter-sakazakii
 
2022-05-16 9:49:53 PM  
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This would be solved by less government oversight.
 
2022-05-16 9:50:25 PM  
It doesn't matter, it's two-four months before any of this gets on the shelves, at best.
 
2022-05-16 9:50:30 PM  
I assume boob milk is considered organic
 
2022-05-16 9:51:28 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: why are Americans so stoopid? Most women can NURSE, ffs, and don't need crappy formula


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2022-05-16 9:51:35 PM  
buy mare's milk, it's the closest to human out there
 
2022-05-16 9:51:46 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: why are Americans so stoopid? Most women can NURSE, ffs, and don't need crappy formula


While It is best for the mother to breastfeed, it is not always possible. My daughter in law couldn't produce enough milk. I had to stop at 3 months with my first son, because I had to have surgery. He would not take any of the ones on the shelf. By trial and error I came up with powdered milk with a tiny bit of honey and vitamins. I also ground my own baby food. Both my boys grew up healthy and happy.
 
2022-05-16 9:52:44 PM  

SumoJeb: Thank goodness. My nipples are sore from feeding all the neighbour kids.


You're a true blue friend.
 
2022-05-16 9:53:24 PM  

Black_Lazerus: Why do I suspect this "shortage" was used as leverage for the FDA not to drop the fine hammer.


Maybe this sudden "agreement" is to avoid the defense production act.
 
2022-05-16 9:58:41 PM  
Oh heaven forbid the company go tits up....
 
2022-05-16 10:00:02 PM  
FDA: "Maybe don't cut costs and make sure the stuff you make is healthy."

Company: "Lol, okay."

FDA: "Okay."

Company: "Okay."
 
2022-05-16 10:00:27 PM  
It looks like there was an abundance of caution.

FTFA: "In the end, however, testing by the FDA and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the genetic sequences of the Cronobacter samples from inside the plant did not match any of the bacteria isolated from the sick children or the formula inside their homes, so there was no link found to the Sturgis facility.

Genetic samples from sick babies also did not match each other, suggesting that there was no link between their cases, Abbott said in its news release. Cronobacter bacteria is commonly found in the environment.Additionally, Abbott said, no baby formula distributed to consumers tested positive for Cronobacter or Salmonella."Well, yeah, that's what Abbott said.
 
2022-05-16 10:03:04 PM  
Aren't they pretty much the only manufacturer of baby formula? Ain't monopoly/consolidation grand?
 
2022-05-16 10:03:06 PM  
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2022-05-16 10:05:09 PM  
Finally, the secret formula for babies will be released to the world, so people can make babies without the help of private companies and government!
 
2022-05-16 10:09:16 PM  

WastrelWay: It looks like there was an abundance of caution.

FTFA: "In the end, however, testing by the FDA and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the genetic sequences of the Cronobacter samples from inside the plant did not match any of the bacteria isolated from the sick children or the formula inside their homes, so there was no link found to the Sturgis facility.

Genetic samples from sick babies also did not match each other, suggesting that there was no link between their cases, Abbott said in its news release. Cronobacter bacteria is commonly found in the environment.Additionally, Abbott said, no baby formula distributed to consumers tested positive for Cronobacter or Salmonella."Well, yeah, that's what Abbott said.


Yep. Halt first, confirm results, restart. Makes sense.

Which is why the rush of articles about how, really, this was a failure of global trade is bizarre.
 
2022-05-16 10:11:23 PM  

WastrelWay: It looks like there was an abundance of caution.

FTFA: "In the end, however, testing by the FDA and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the genetic sequences of the Cronobacter samples from inside the plant did not match any of the bacteria isolated from the sick children or the formula inside their homes, so there was no link found to the Sturgis facility.

Genetic samples from sick babies also did not match each other, suggesting that there was no link between their cases, Abbott said in its news release. Cronobacter bacteria is commonly found in the environment.Additionally, Abbott said, no baby formula distributed to consumers tested positive for Cronobacter or Salmonella."Well, yeah, that's what Abbott said.


Just goes to show you that even at Joe's Crab Shack where Joe only washes his hands once a week, where they take the fish leftover after sitting out in the sun all day at the market, where every inch of the kitchen is covered in grease, where the dishwasher has been broken for a month, where the soap ran out a week before that... the outbreak of food poisoning can still be from a bad batch of bread rolls they bought from the bakery next door.

It's not exactly some leap of logic to blame Joe and it's still probably not great to eat there if you can avoid it and value your health.

/Not that a lot of moms can
//Joe's is still probably cleaner than that factory from some of the FDA violations leading up this
///Do you have any idea how much the FDA will let you get away with??? To get caught multiple times???
 
2022-05-16 10:14:57 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: why are Americans so stoopid? Most women can NURSE, ffs, and don't need crappy formula


Stop living in the past, not all NURSES are women. 

Idiot
 
2022-05-16 10:16:07 PM  
You said weaning.
 
2022-05-16 10:17:01 PM  
Does it strike anyone else as incredibly stupid that one plant is responsible for making so much of one product that it can actually cause a nationwide shortage like this?

How farking dumb.
 
2022-05-16 10:17:21 PM  

IlGreven: No. They should be arresting these people. Not giving them a bailout.


Working under an FDA consent decree is not happy fun times for the company.
 
2022-05-16 10:18:20 PM  
Hahahahaha ... US has a shortage in baby formula, so they force a substandard supplier to reopen its doors.

Love it. It's a more American story than hot dogs and hand grenades.
 
2022-05-16 10:19:19 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Does it strike anyone else as incredibly stupid that one plant is responsible for making so much of one product that it can actually cause a nationwide shortage like this?

How farking dumb.


Yeah? What's stopping you from opening up another factory?

Buildings, equipment, labor don't come cheap. If it was so easy to make money, everyone would be doing it.
 
2022-05-16 10:25:32 PM  

whither_apophis: buy mare's milk, it's the closest to human out there


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2022-05-16 10:28:18 PM  

Flushing It All Away: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Does it strike anyone else as incredibly stupid that one plant is responsible for making so much of one product that it can actually cause a nationwide shortage like this?

How farking dumb.

Yeah? What's stopping you from opening up another factory?

Buildings, equipment, labor don't come cheap. If it was so easy to make money, everyone would be doing it.


Seems like America is the only country having this problem right now. I wonder why that is.
 
2022-05-16 10:28:27 PM  
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2022-05-16 10:31:27 PM  

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....I hate that guy.
 
2022-05-16 10:31:31 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Flushing It All Away: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Does it strike anyone else as incredibly stupid that one plant is responsible for making so much of one product that it can actually cause a nationwide shortage like this?

How farking dumb.

Yeah? What's stopping you from opening up another factory?

Buildings, equipment, labor don't come cheap. If it was so easy to make money, everyone would be doing it.

Seems like America is the only country having this problem right now. I wonder why that is.


Because our executive team believes in the power of import tariffs that TFG started and are now continuing.

"Last year Abbott accounted for 42% of the U.S. formula market, about 95% of which is produced domestically. There are only four major manufacturers of formula in the U.S. today: Mead Johnson, Abbott, Nestle, and Perrigo. One reason the market is so concentrated is tariffs up to 17.5% on imports, which protect domestic producers from foreign competition. Non-trade barriers such as FDA labeling and ingredient requirements also limit imports even during shortages."

The US is unique in their quixotic need to tax consumers for buying worldwide produced products of need.

TFG rolled out thousands of new tariffs and the Democrats took them all, reviewed them, and said, damn, that's a great idea. We'll keep them all!
 
2022-05-16 10:32:21 PM  

sinner4ever: So did the government pay to fix the process equipment or did they make the company get the money back from the stock buybacks to pay for repairs?


You could read the article.
 
2022-05-16 10:35:12 PM  

IlGreven: No. They should be arresting these people. Not giving them a bailout.


Not sure they're getting a bailout. Abbott already made the changes needed before there ever was a consent decree.

"Abbott said it submitted a corrective action the FDA on April 8. But even before this formal response, it had been working on improvements, including reviewing and updating education, training and safety procedures for employees and visitors and updating protocols regarding water, cleaning and maintenance procedures at the facility. Additionally, Abbott said it immediately took actions to address the items that the FDA raised at the conclusion of its inspection."
 
2022-05-16 10:36:01 PM  

Flushing It All Away: The US is unique in their quixotic need to tax consumers for buying worldwide produced products of need.


Ummm.....no.
 
2022-05-16 10:36:03 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Flushing It All Away: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Does it strike anyone else as incredibly stupid that one plant is responsible for making so much of one product that it can actually cause a nationwide shortage like this?

How farking dumb.

Yeah? What's stopping you from opening up another factory?

Buildings, equipment, labor don't come cheap. If it was so easy to make money, everyone would be doing it.

Seems like America is the only country having this problem right now. I wonder why that is.


Violent video games, probably.
 
2022-05-16 10:36:44 PM  

IlGreven: No. They should be arresting these people. Not giving them a bailout.


Arrested for what crime?
 
2022-05-16 10:36:47 PM  

Lsherm: It doesn't matter, it's two-four months before any of this gets on the shelves, at best.


Oh, OK, then babies can keep starving after 2-4 months. No biggie.
 
2022-05-16 10:36:49 PM  

thorpe: Not sure they're getting a bailout. Abbott already made the changes needed before there ever was a consent decree.


It was just a Pavlovian response.
 
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