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2022-05-16 2:41:21 PM  
That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.
 
2022-05-16 2:51:11 PM  
Did he use bleach? Kills 99.9% of viruses.

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2022-05-16 2:52:00 PM  

BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.


True.

Also very, very funny.

Worth it?   Hard to call.
 
2022-05-16 2:54:02 PM  
Subsequent electronic forensic analysis of the company's server logs, alongside the use of the company's CCTV footage, was able to link records held on the server with the host name of Bing's MacBook, Yggdrasil, as well as certain MAC and IP addresses linked on his computer.

Forensic analysis.....

"Hey, there's an log entry for mister 'I-only-know-database-shiat's' node at 19:32:24.394 which is exactly when the command was issued.  Hummm."
(20 minutes pass)
"HUMMMMM......"
 
2022-05-16 2:54:03 PM  
Why the fark are they babbling about Yggdrasil appearing in Valheim and Elden Ring?  This case dates from 2018, long before either game came out, and it's not like Yggdrasil doesn't date back to before recorded history
 
2022-05-16 2:57:02 PM  
I'm a bit of a slow learner so it took me about ten minutes of working in IT before I realized that everything was logged. Maybe it was good first three minutes on the job.
 
2022-05-16 2:58:34 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: I'm a bit of a slow learner so it took me about ten minutes of working in IT before I realized that everything was logged. Maybe it was good first three minutes on the job.


Computers in general.   ESPECIALLY TRIPLY TRUE in IT.   Heck, we have admin gateway that lets us into the guts of the customer stuffs backend, where we have more powers over things - theres a log of THAT   only accessible to the devs and management.

logs on logs on logs
 
2022-05-16 3:07:02 PM  

PadreScout: BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.

True.

Also very, very funny.

Worth it?   Hard to call.


Worth it?  I like to eat and have a place to sleep.  (not in prison).  So no way worth it.
 
2022-05-16 3:13:15 PM  
Can't condone it in the least.  But I do understand the frustration of constantly beating my head against the wall with certain managers.

Definitely the wrong way to do anything about it, though.
 
2022-05-16 3:14:55 PM  
Thou shalt not hack thine own servers!
 
2022-05-16 3:15:04 PM  

BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.


Maybe after 7 years everyone will have forgotten?
 
2022-05-16 3:18:16 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.

Maybe after 7 years everyone will have forgotten?


"So, I noticed this 7-year gap in your resume.  What were you doing from 2022 through 2029?"
 
2022-05-16 3:18:37 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Can't condone it in the least.  But I do understand the frustration of constantly beating my head against the wall with certain managers.

Definitely the wrong way to do anything about it, though.


Somewhat related:
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2022-05-16 3:19:50 PM  
People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.
 
2022-05-16 3:20:24 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Why the fark are they babbling about Yggdrasil appearing in Valheim and Elden Ring?


Clicks and ad revenue, I'm guessing.
 
2022-05-16 3:20:46 PM  
The smart thing to do would be to go BOFH.   Assert your dominance over the user base by slowly sabotaging the system in a way that seems perfectly normal.  By the time someone notices, it's become policy and you can say "we've always done it that way"
 
2022-05-16 3:21:52 PM  

PadreScout: Shakin_Haitian: I'm a bit of a slow learner so it took me about ten minutes of working in IT before I realized that everything was logged. Maybe it was good first three minutes on the job.

Computers in general.   ESPECIALLY TRIPLY TRUE in IT.   Heck, we have admin gateway that lets us into the guts of the customer stuffs backend, where we have more powers over things - theres a log of THAT   only accessible to the devs and management.

logs on logs on logs


You'd be surprised how many things come with logging features that simply aren't used. 
The biggest one is NTP. I've seen people waste hours doing nothing more that trying to piece together logs that aren't properly timestamped. It's the simplest thing to enable. 

And good luck trying to get a dumbshiat IT manager to spring for a proper centralized logging server. 

I don't miss IT.
 
2022-05-16 3:25:59 PM  
Yeah, Yggdrasil. The tree of life. The roots of which can be seen sprawling across the sky in Valheim, and as that big f*** off plant glowing away in Elden Ring. Everything in 2022 always seems to lead back to Elden Ring. This whole case is probably in the game somewhere as lore.

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2022-05-16 3:27:18 PM  

Solty Dog: People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.


1. That's somewhat on you guys too. 
2. If a site is that critical more than one person should know about it. 
3. A label maker can save hours/days of outages.
 
2022-05-16 3:27:26 PM  

bionicjoe: PadreScout: Shakin_Haitian: I'm a bit of a slow learner so it took me about ten minutes of working in IT before I realized that everything was logged. Maybe it was good first three minutes on the job.

Computers in general.   ESPECIALLY TRIPLY TRUE in IT.   Heck, we have admin gateway that lets us into the guts of the customer stuffs backend, where we have more powers over things - theres a log of THAT   only accessible to the devs and management.

logs on logs on logs

You'd be surprised how many things come with logging features that simply aren't used.
The biggest one is NTP. I've seen people waste hours doing nothing more that trying to piece together logs that aren't properly timestamped. It's the simplest thing to enable. 

And good luck trying to get a dumbshiat IT manager to spring for a proper centralized logging server. 

I don't miss IT.


Bolded for emphasis...

I know for my workplace (stricly speaking for my 'space' only), we have so many logs that no one looks at (because there's only 2 people (me being one of them) that have access to them...or even know they exist)...

/kinda want to get out from IT as well
//don't know what I'd do though...
///reading/typing on fark doesn't pay though :\
 
2022-05-16 3:28:25 PM  
If you're easily tempted to do stupid things, IT admin work isn't for you.

Can I read everyone's email? Sure, but I don't want to lose my job over it.

In unrelated news, the following people in accounting are having affairs....
 
2022-05-16 3:33:21 PM  

Joe USer: If you're easily tempted to do stupid things, IT admin work isn't for you.

Can I read everyone's email? Sure, but I don't want to lose my job over it.

In unrelated news, the following people in accounting are having affairs....


Avoid healthcare too.
Thinking about peeking at your friend's/neighbor's/coworker's medical record?
You best believe they log the shiat out of that.
 
2022-05-16 3:38:40 PM  

PadreScout: BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.

True.

Also very, very funny.

Worth it?   Hard to call.


I mean, it's one thing if you're warning your bosses that your systems could be compromised and they keep ignoring it.  If you document every instance, when the shiat hits the fan, you can show how you were the one to sound the alarm before it happened.  Your ass is covered...usually.

When you go ahead and purposely wipe the servers clean, that's on you bud.
 
2022-05-16 3:39:54 PM  

smd31: /kinda want to get out from IT as well
//don't know what I'd do though...
///reading/typing on fark doesn't pay though :\


Hey - can I interest you in DevOps?
You get paid to do development, and you have get to do IT as well...
 
2022-05-16 3:41:02 PM  

Russ1642: Everything in 2022 always seems to lead back to Elden Ring. This whole case is probably in the game somewhere as lore.

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You have to understand, a big studio made a good video game (which is getting increasingly rare) and it generates a lot of attention and page views. You could write an article like "Owning a cat is like Elden Ring and here's why" and it'd get far too many views.
It's starting to die down, but some people really don't want to adapt again.
 
2022-05-16 3:46:51 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Can't condone it in the least.  But I do understand the frustration of constantly beating my head against the wall with certain managers.

Definitely the wrong way to do anything about it, though.


I think we can all understand the frustration. But good lord, you hide the keys if it comes to that, you don't burn the building down. You're negatively affecting more people than just the managers you hate.
 
2022-05-16 3:48:28 PM  
Back ups.
 
2022-05-16 3:49:03 PM  

wage0048: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.

Maybe after 7 years everyone will have forgotten?

"So, I noticed this 7-year gap in your resume.  What were you doing from 2022 through 2029?"


"Seven years"
 
2022-05-16 3:53:36 PM  

Solty Dog: People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.


My previous job often gave me a sterling example of an attitude that is all too common in management.

We were a pretty small shop - a tiger team of web and application developers that designed, built, and sometimes hosted web sites and applications for clients both internal to the company, and outside customers.  We specialized in quick response to changing requirements because we were small, had a very short approval chain, and everyone was part of tight organization tree with very few vertical levels.  We had maybe 30 people at our maximum, but had at times upwards of 100 servers in the data center.

Corporate was forever telling us that we only needed one admin because we were supporting so few users.

My response was that "Yeah, we're supporting very few *users*, but we're supporting as many *technologies* as a shop ten times our size.  And there's only so many things I can be an expert on at the same time."

If I tried to list all the different things I was supposed to support - even limiting it to what I can remember off the top of my head - I'd still be here next week.

(Once, I needed to go into the hospital for a while.  Corporate said they'd find us someone to pick up the slack.  They asked what I did.  My boss gave them this list and they went green.  Fortunately, I had everything written down.)
 
2022-05-16 3:57:12 PM  
I've been assured by several IT workers on Fark that they are fully justified taking these actions and see no harm.  Countless times it has been uttered, "If that happened to me I would...", or "At my LAST job...."
 
2022-05-16 3:59:11 PM  
Never did anything like that. The closest I've come was after a company takeover (informed at a 9:30 meeting and everyone out at 10), I left just like I was told to.  No one asked about the admin password for the VAX or my desktop. Apparently they called several other former employees about them, but the company records didn't have my phone number for some reason. It was a small company and running a bit loose.

My manager had my number, but he had put a down payment on a house at the new location and was a bit annoyed with the deal.
 
2022-05-16 4:24:10 PM  

bionicjoe: PadreScout: Shakin_Haitian: I'm a bit of a slow learner so it took me about ten minutes of working in IT before I realized that everything was logged. Maybe it was good first three minutes on the job.

Computers in general.   ESPECIALLY TRIPLY TRUE in IT.   Heck, we have admin gateway that lets us into the guts of the customer stuffs backend, where we have more powers over things - theres a log of THAT   only accessible to the devs and management.

logs on logs on logs

You'd be surprised how many things come with logging features that simply aren't used. 
The biggest one is NTP. I've seen people waste hours doing nothing more that trying to piece together logs that aren't properly timestamped. It's the simplest thing to enable. 

And good luck trying to get a dumbshiat IT manager to spring for a proper centralized logging server. 

I don't miss IT.


Centralized logging sounds great, like SSO, until you realize you're working with different things with different requirements.

Not every application needs or should log the same events or the same data as every other. Access policies, retention policies, data structure.

Hell just application logs in general being lumped in with firewall, server, and other such logs is completely infuriating.
 
2022-05-16 4:28:44 PM  

Solty Dog: People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.


Is it dumb decisions, or are IT professionals just spiteful bastards that are prepared to take the company down with them if they're slighted?
 
2022-05-16 4:30:19 PM  

Veloram: Solty Dog: People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.

Is it dumb decisions, or are IT professionals just spiteful bastards that are prepared to take the company down with them if they're slighted?


*these. "these IT professionals".

/Geez
 
2022-05-16 4:31:32 PM  

Veloram: Solty Dog: People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.

Is it dumb decisions, or are IT professionals just spiteful bastards that are prepared to take the company down with them if they're slighted?


Both. But mostly likely since IT people are not really valued appropriately in most companies. If you do your job well, nothing breaks, they question your existence. If things go badly, they also question your existence. It's lose-lose. So they scale your dept back and it hums along until a big crises and now everything is on fire. Somehow you get through it (or you don't), you secure funding and maybe expand your dept until the next manager changeover or quarterly review and the cycle repeats.
 
2022-05-16 4:35:03 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Can't condone it in the least.  But I do understand the frustration of constantly beating my head against the wall with certain managers.

Definitely the wrong way to do anything about it, though.


Rwa2play: I mean, it's one thing if you're warning your bosses that your systems could be compromised and they keep ignoring it.  If you document every instance, when the shiat hits the fan, you can show how you were the one to sound the alarm before it happened.


These. Except you warn them for months/years. Get frustrated. Quit. Later hear about how it melted down in exactly the way you predicted and told them about. Then get hired back on as a consultant for $200 an hour, transitioning into a permanent position except now your word is god.

/ask me how I know
 
2022-05-16 4:37:09 PM  

Solty Dog: 1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.


Dumb?  Or brilliant low-key bomb?

Solty Dog: 3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.


I'll bet he found out what it was, though!
 
2022-05-16 4:51:36 PM  
If you want to cause chaos, just change the cosmetics of a process slightly.

Move a link from the left to the right.

Change the wording of an instruction to be just slightly too vague.

Change the screenshots in the guides around.

Use a script to copy documents and delete the originals thus ruining their 'last edited' date.

Add porn keywords to metadata to trip content filters.
 
2022-05-16 4:56:10 PM  

Zeroth Law: Both. But mostly likely since IT people are not really valued appropriately in most companies. If you do your job well, nothing breaks, they question your existence.


I automated 90% of my job over the last 20 years. Now I work from home and take on side projects while drawing my modest salary. The people I work for don't really understand what I do, but they know they haven't had any computer-related problems since they hired me. It's a good system for everyone involved.
 
2022-05-16 5:22:30 PM  

Veloram: Solty Dog: People in IT make dumb decisions.

1. Former IT admin used his local username and password for server admin. He quit, we deleted his accounts and nearly everything shut down.

2. Networking person, made up a VPN to a critical site and told no one. He died and eventually so did the appliance. Took us forever to find the thing and then no one could log into it

3. Lead tech at a place I used to work disconnected the fiber to cat 5 transceiver because he didn't know what it was. That took two sites down.

Is it dumb decisions, or are IT professionals just spiteful bastards that are prepared to take the company down with them if they're slighted?


Some are. Don't hire discount IT admins.

Good ones won't, even if you cut their budget and lay them off with little notice. In that case they will simply leave and not mention the huge flaw they found in the system last week.  I'm sure the minimum wage replacement will figure it out.
 
2022-05-16 5:41:48 PM  

Short Victoria's War: smd31: /kinda want to get out from IT as well
//don't know what I'd do though...
///reading/typing on fark doesn't pay though :\

Hey - can I interest you in DevOps?
You get paid to do development, and you have get to do IT as well...


heh, well funny you mention that as I applied for a "cloud engineer" position within my current company.

I don't like/understand programming/developing code but so much so that's what hinders me with "DevOps".  I can copy and paste code from github/other website like everyone else, but actually understanding it and doing it myself?  Not much of a chance, without dedicating time to it.

I can 'read' most languages as I have some experience w/Perl, PHP, (HTML ;)), & PowerCLI...

/got the AWS: SysOps cert years ago
//didn't renew it before it expired because I wasn't using it
///3s
 
2022-05-16 5:48:01 PM  

dyhchong: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Can't condone it in the least.  But I do understand the frustration of constantly beating my head against the wall with certain managers.

Definitely the wrong way to do anything about it, though.

Rwa2play: I mean, it's one thing if you're warning your bosses that your systems could be compromised and they keep ignoring it.  If you document every instance, when the shiat hits the fan, you can show how you were the one to sound the alarm before it happened.

These. Except you warn them for months/years. Get frustrated. Quit. Later hear about how it melted down in exactly the way you predicted and told them about. Then get hired back on as a consultant for $200 an hour, transitioning into a permanent position except now your word is god.

/ask me how I know


This.  If there is a critical defect in your employer's infrastructure, management refuses to greenlight a fix, and it bothers you that much, then leave.  If the defect is in violation of some law, report it under any applicable whistleblower system.  Otherwise, you're just going to make yourself miserable.
 
2022-05-16 5:48:47 PM  

smd31: Short Victoria's War: smd31: /kinda want to get out from IT as well
//don't know what I'd do though...
///reading/typing on fark doesn't pay though :\

Hey - can I interest you in DevOps?
You get paid to do development, and you have get to do IT as well...

heh, well funny you mention that as I applied for a "cloud engineer" position within my current company.

I don't like/understand programming/developing code but so much so that's what hinders me with "DevOps".  I can copy and paste code from github/other website like everyone else, but actually understanding it and doing it myself?  Not much of a chance, without dedicating time to it.

I can 'read' most languages as I have some experience w/Perl, PHP, (HTML ;)), & PowerCLI...

/got the AWS: SysOps cert years ago
//didn't renew it before it expired because I wasn't using it
///3s


In smaller companies, DevOps is usually utility code, Excel, and hacking together stuff you found on GitHub. Oh, and lots of debugging.
 
2022-05-16 6:02:48 PM  
It's alleged this led to Bing arguing with other colleagues, and after his office was relocated it is suggested that he no longer felt valued by the company, was "passive and sluggish, often late and early, and there is also the phenomenon of absenteeism."

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2022-05-16 6:05:31 PM  

BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.


It's China. He'll be on the cyber team attacking US servers.
 
2022-05-16 6:31:45 PM  

Quantumbunny: bionicjoe: PadreScout: Shakin_Haitian: I'm a bit of a slow learner so it took me about ten minutes of working in IT before I realized that everything was logged. Maybe it was good first three minutes on the job.

Computers in general.   ESPECIALLY TRIPLY TRUE in IT.   Heck, we have admin gateway that lets us into the guts of the customer stuffs backend, where we have more powers over things - theres a log of THAT   only accessible to the devs and management.

logs on logs on logs

You'd be surprised how many things come with logging features that simply aren't used. 
The biggest one is NTP. I've seen people waste hours doing nothing more that trying to piece together logs that aren't properly timestamped. It's the simplest thing to enable. 

And good luck trying to get a dumbshiat IT manager to spring for a proper centralized logging server. 

I don't miss IT.

Centralized logging sounds great, like SSO, until you realize you're working with different things with different requirements.

Not every application needs or should log the same events or the same data as every other. Access policies, retention policies, data structure.

Hell just application logs in general being lumped in with firewall, server, and other such logs is completely infuriating.


Centralized logging is great until someone makes a change and the splunk servers start generating a minimum of 50 gbps of sustained traffic in twenty minutes waves. It was really fun seeing some of our major load balancers choking.
 
2022-05-16 6:38:30 PM  

BizarreMan: That's pretty damn stupid of him.  Good luck ever getting another IT job ever again.


you're saying it's more of a retirement plan?
 
2022-05-16 6:54:32 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: Centralized logging is great until someone makes a change and the splunk servers start generating a minimum of 50 gbps of sustained traffic in twenty minutes waves. It was really fun seeing some of our major load balancers choking.


Our Splunk servers so routinely crumbled under such heavy load from poorly executed searches that the admins nixed access until people were officially trained on how not to write stupid searches.
 
2022-05-16 6:55:07 PM  
Never be the one to do the hack yourself. Never.

Figure out the flaws, how to combat them after the fact, how to correct for any intrusion, how to properly patch them, how to limit the impact that any leveraging could have achieved, how to best clean up the mess that results.

Then release the flaw's information to the dark web, making sure to do so as untraceably as possible.

Always, always, always get someone else to do the dirty work for you; ideally as far removed from you as possible. If you are going to do anything, be the hero that rides in to save the company. If not, just sit back and watch the system burn to the ground, with only a satisfied "I told you so" to underline your position.

Never did this myself, but have known two who did; one who got caught, one who didn't. Guess which one used the above advice?
 
2022-05-16 6:57:42 PM  

fiddlehead: Joe USer: If you're easily tempted to do stupid things, IT admin work isn't for you.

Can I read everyone's email? Sure, but I don't want to lose my job over it.

In unrelated news, the following people in accounting are having affairs....

Avoid healthcare too.
Thinking about peeking at your friend's/neighbor's/coworker's medical record?
You best believe they log the shiat out of that.


Wow, it literally never occurred to me before now to do this. And I grew up with a parent that worked in medical records. I guess it just seemed so obviously wrong to me that I never even considered it.
 
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