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2022-05-16 11:41:32 AM  
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2022-05-16 11:51:10 AM  
So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.
 
2022-05-16 11:54:39 AM  
I'm marginally exited for this.  There hasn't been a decent Predator movie since Predator 2 (I will die on that hill).

At least the setup for this one is refreshing.
 
2022-05-16 11:56:51 AM  

Lord Bear: I'm marginally exited for this.  There hasn't been a decent Predator movie since Predator 2 (I will die on that hill).

At least the setup for this one is refreshing.


Predators at least had made an attempt to try something new, even if the result was mediocre.  The Predator was okay.  Nothing great, but I would have shown up to any sequels that continued that story.
 
2022-05-16 12:00:00 PM  
exclusive to hulu?

Might as well say direct to tv
 
2022-05-16 12:03:06 PM  

NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: I'm marginally exited for this.  There hasn't been a decent Predator movie since Predator 2 (I will die on that hill).

At least the setup for this one is refreshing.

Predators at least had made an attempt to try something new, even if the result was mediocre.  The Predator was okay.  Nothing great, but I would have shown up to any sequels that continued that story.


I didn't hate Predators or The Predator, just found them very meh.  I genuinely like Predator 2 as a solid sequel to the original in a new setting and slightly expanded mythos.  The other two just go back to the well and any mythos expansion is kind of stupid at best.
 
2022-05-16 12:17:47 PM  

Lord Bear: NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: I'm marginally exited for this.  There hasn't been a decent Predator movie since Predator 2 (I will die on that hill).

At least the setup for this one is refreshing.

Predators at least had made an attempt to try something new, even if the result was mediocre.  The Predator was okay.  Nothing great, but I would have shown up to any sequels that continued that story.

I didn't hate Predators or The Predator, just found them very meh.  I genuinely like Predator 2 as a solid sequel to the original in a new setting and slightly expanded mythos.  The other two just go back to the well and any mythos expansion is kind of stupid at best.


Yeah, it seems the more we learn about it, the less interesting it becomes. Maybe don't explain so much of its history and origin and traits. It works best as an invisible force of nature that the protagonist must overcome.

Anyway -- bringing advanced futuristic weaponry on a neolithic hunt seems not very sporting. The Predator ought to ditch the shoulder mounted gun and use wooden weapons only.
 
2022-05-16 12:28:28 PM  

Ishkur: Anyway -- bringing advanced futuristic weaponry on a neolithic hunt seems not very sporting. The Predator ought to ditch the shoulder mounted gun and use wooden weapons only.


Yeah, this makes a whole bunch of no sense.

Predators are looking for sport - not harvest. Maybe if you lured one out into the plains and drove a herd of buffalo over it. The actual weapons and environment of these natives are of no threat.
 
2022-05-16 12:31:58 PM  

madgonad: Ishkur: Anyway -- bringing advanced futuristic weaponry on a neolithic hunt seems not very sporting. The Predator ought to ditch the shoulder mounted gun and use wooden weapons only.

Yeah, this makes a whole bunch of no sense.

Predators are looking for sport - not harvest. Maybe if you lured one out into the plains and drove a herd of buffalo over it. The actual weapons and environment of these natives are of no threat.


Depends on how they approach this.  They just showed the targeting sight, nothing more.

People hunt deer for sport too.  They don't change up weapons because they are not hunting lions.
 
2022-05-16 12:38:35 PM  

NeoCortex42: So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.


Really should have been:
Predator
Predator 2
Predatres
Predafour
Pentator
Predator 6: Assignment Miami Beach
 
2022-05-16 12:39:49 PM  

Michael J Faux: NeoCortex42: So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.

Really should have been:
Predator
Predator 2
Predatres
Predafour
Pentator
Predator 6: Assignment Miami Beach


In that case, the prequel should be Pre-dator.
 
2022-05-16 12:40:09 PM  

Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.


Predators aren't people. They hunt for the challenge. If it's not challenging, what's the point? There's no honor in an easy fight -- it needs to be fair. They've demonstrated this "chivalry" over and over and over again. It's one of the more consistent and overly remarkable traits that they have.

People hunt because they're selfish pricks who don't care about fairness. They use dynamite to hunt fish for crying out loud.
 
2022-05-16 12:41:36 PM  

Michael J Faux: Predator 6: Assignment Miami Beach


I am imagining Larvell Jones throwing his voice with Predator clicking sounds to evade detection.
 
2022-05-16 12:50:05 PM  

Ishkur: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.

Predators aren't people. They hunt for the challenge. If it's not challenging, what's the point? There's no honor in an easy fight -- it needs to be fair. They've demonstrated this "chivalry" over and over and over again. It's one of the more consistent and overly remarkable traits that they have.


That's pretty debatable.  Most of the 'chivalry' they show is from the comics and other media.  Many of the kills in Predator 1/2 are against unaware people from ambush, or at least when invisible.  It's rarely a fair fight.  They can occasionally be goaded into fighting hand to hand by a worthy foe.  Even then they usually use blades and are physically much stronger.

They have shown not to kill females, at least when pregnant.    That's consistent with a 'hunter', but not particularly chivalrous.
 
2022-05-16 12:56:22 PM  

Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.  They don't change up weapons because they are not hunting lions.


People hunt deer for food. The sport makes it more fun, but almost all hunters eat their prey. Without modern firepower humans aren't sporting. We aren't fast. We aren't tough. We are soft and pink. In Predator lore we were just convenient hosts to grow aliens which were sporting to hunt. It isn't until we made firearms that we became a threat to predators and worthy of hunting.
 
2022-05-16 1:05:53 PM  

Lord Bear: Ishkur: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.

Predators aren't people. They hunt for the challenge. If it's not challenging, what's the point? There's no honor in an easy fight -- it needs to be fair. They've demonstrated this "chivalry" over and over and over again. It's one of the more consistent and overly remarkable traits that they have.

That's pretty debatable.  Most of the 'chivalry' they show is from the comics and other media.  Many of the kills in Predator 1/2 are against unaware people from ambush, or at least when invisible.  It's rarely a fair fight.  They can occasionally be goaded into fighting hand to hand by a worthy foe.  Even then they usually use blades and are physically much stronger.

They have shown not to kill females, at least when pregnant.    That's consistent with a 'hunter', but not particularly chivalrous.


It was a notable plot point in the first movie when Arnold told the woman to put down the gun. She wasn't targeted because she was unarmed.

Yeah, the soldiers were hit from the shadows, but they're armed and not defenseless. It's up to them to play proper defense.
 
2022-05-16 1:09:13 PM  

madgonad: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.  They don't change up weapons because they are not hunting lions.

People hunt deer for food. The sport makes it more fun, but almost all hunters eat their prey. Without modern firepower humans aren't sporting. We aren't fast. We aren't tough. We are soft and pink. In Predator lore we were just convenient hosts to grow aliens which were sporting to hunt. It isn't until we made firearms that we became a threat to predators and worthy of hunting.


Predator lore is a bit all over the place.  In the 'good' predator movies (1 and 2), the predator is an ambush hunter and not particularly sporting.

In the other predator/AvP movies and comics and stuff the predator is a samurai warrior with a strict code that only kills the most worthy game using appropriate weapons.

I think there are comics and things out there where predators fight knights and cavemen and other pre-firearm people too.

Excuse me if I try to keep things to the 'good' movies.  The Predator is a mostly unsporting dick in the first 2 movies.
 
2022-05-16 1:24:09 PM  

madgonad: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.  They don't change up weapons because they are not hunting lions.

People hunt deer for food. The sport makes it more fun, but almost all hunters eat their prey. Without modern firepower humans aren't sporting. We aren't fast. We aren't tough. We are soft and pink. In Predator lore we were just convenient hosts to grow aliens which were sporting to hunt. It isn't until we made firearms that we became a threat to predators and worthy of hunting.


Sounds like you dont know what a crossbow can do
 
2022-05-16 1:26:34 PM  

NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: Ishkur: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.

Predators aren't people. They hunt for the challenge. If it's not challenging, what's the point? There's no honor in an easy fight -- it needs to be fair. They've demonstrated this "chivalry" over and over and over again. It's one of the more consistent and overly remarkable traits that they have.

That's pretty debatable.  Most of the 'chivalry' they show is from the comics and other media.  Many of the kills in Predator 1/2 are against unaware people from ambush, or at least when invisible.  It's rarely a fair fight.  They can occasionally be goaded into fighting hand to hand by a worthy foe.  Even then they usually use blades and are physically much stronger.

They have shown not to kill females, at least when pregnant.    That's consistent with a 'hunter', but not particularly chivalrous.

It was a notable plot point in the first movie when Arnold told the woman to put down the gun. She wasn't targeted because she was unarmed.

Yeah, the soldiers were hit from the shadows, but they're armed and not defenseless. It's up to them to play proper defense.


Right. It was along the lines of "Until you pick up a weapon, you're not in the game. The second you do, you're fair game." Not really sure how that applies to 300 year old weapon tech, though, 1720s bow and arrow vs laser blaster isn't really the same order of magnitude.
 
2022-05-16 1:27:02 PM  

NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: NeoCortex42: So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.

Really should have been:
Predator
Predator 2
Predatres
Predafour
Pentator
Predator 6: Assignment Miami Beach

In that case, the prequel should be Pre-dator.


Son of Predator
Predator: Days of Glory
Return of The Predator
Ultimate Predator - or - How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Aliens
The Rise of The Predator
Predator Unleashed
 
2022-05-16 1:31:25 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: NeoCortex42: So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.

Really should have been:
Predator
Predator 2
Predatres
Predafour
Pentator
Predator 6: Assignment Miami Beach

In that case, the prequel should be Pre-dator.

Son of Predator
Predator: Days of Glory
Return of The Predator
Ultimate Predator - or - How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Aliens
The Rise of The Predator
Predator Unleashed


To Catch a Predator
 
2022-05-16 1:32:22 PM  

Lord Bear: madgonad: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.  They don't change up weapons because they are not hunting lions.

People hunt deer for food. The sport makes it more fun, but almost all hunters eat their prey. Without modern firepower humans aren't sporting. We aren't fast. We aren't tough. We are soft and pink. In Predator lore we were just convenient hosts to grow aliens which were sporting to hunt. It isn't until we made firearms that we became a threat to predators and worthy of hunting.

Predator lore is a bit all over the place.  In the 'good' predator movies (1 and 2), the predator is an ambush hunter and not particularly sporting.

In the other predator/AvP movies and comics and stuff the predator is a samurai warrior with a strict code that only kills the most worthy game using appropriate weapons.

I think there are comics and things out there where predators fight knights and cavemen and other pre-firearm people too.

Excuse me if I try to keep things to the 'good' movies.  The Predator is a mostly unsporting dick in the first 2 movies.


Eh, in the first movie it was heavily (intentionally) outnumbered, and its prey were carrying weapons fully capable of killing it. It was better armed and equipped, sure, but when it took out the Goddamn Sexual Tyrannosaurus, the team leveled 100 feet of heavy jungle, and that was without using their grenades. If it had screwed up, it could have died. I don't know if you play video games, but it's like that when taking a base in the various Far Cry games.

This one looks like dropping one of the protagonists from Far Cry 2-6 into Far Cry Primal.
 
2022-05-16 1:38:03 PM  
The Dark Horse comics really ran with the concept, and fleshed out the lore, and it's been mined a bit for the subsequent movies. Not in a timeframe that would put it in with the Alien franchise so much, which is too bad, because there is a lot of potential there, but the movies have been sort of hit and miss. But they spring forth some decent movie tie ins within comics, and I'm OK with that.

That being said, the Yautja are kind of d*cks. To each other. To the planets they f*ck up. To the cultures that they f*ck up for a pick me up from their hum-drum existence.

I have kind of longed for a series or even an official short on the life of the Yautja at home. What do they have to do to pull off these hunts, for thousands of years? That's like a post-scarcity sort of society. They have stable tech, they have FTL, they've seeded worlds for their hunts, they have to hunt OTHER species other than the Xenomorphs, which means that they've got an active scouting and explorer corps, but what is the daily life for a regular, run of the mill Yautja?

One of the things that I liked about the shared world Man-Kzin Wars were the dives into Kzin culture, both at the nobility level, the soldiers' and regular un-named Kzin with dreams of glory and honor, or just to get through life. Some of the best Man-Kzin Wars stories were told with a Kzin who was with a Kzin street vendor and his son. The Yautja have their share of d*cks. Most are far from honorable in their kills, which sort of hints at the rot in their society set on trophies and competition to rack up numbers of kills. Even hunting Xenomorphs they really skew the field towards themselves, and they've done this sort of thing for a long time. This sort of listing and creaky society could be fun to run a few tales through.
 
2022-05-16 1:40:45 PM  

palelizard: Right. It was along the lines of "Until you pick up a weapon, you're not in the game. The second you do, you're fair game." Not really sure how that applies to 300 year old weapon tech, though, 1720s bow and arrow vs laser blaster isn't really the same order of magnitude.


The Predators pay lip service to their 'code' more than anything else.  Sure, they usually only take out armed prey, but they will do it even when the prey isn't aware they are in danger.  They generally won't hunt females.  The Predator does shoot at Arnie a few times even when Arnie has been disarmed.  It would be the 'honorable' thing to take him on hand to hand.

Sometimes they try to fight fair (to get the respect of their clan or whatever), but they can and do fish with dynamite.
 
2022-05-16 1:49:14 PM  

Lord Bear: Many of the kills in Predator 1/2 are against unaware people from ambush, or at least when invisible.


Not if you understand what their motivation is. If they don't collect the skull, its not a worthy kill to them.

Both predators behave exactly the same: They identify early on that Arnold and Danny Glover are the alpha males worthy of a prize, so they kill everyone they love or come into contact with to goad them into retaliating. They kill to provoke.
 
2022-05-16 1:51:57 PM  

Lord Bear: palelizard: Right. It was along the lines of "Until you pick up a weapon, you're not in the game. The second you do, you're fair game." Not really sure how that applies to 300 year old weapon tech, though, 1720s bow and arrow vs laser blaster isn't really the same order of magnitude.

The Predators pay lip service to their 'code' more than anything else.  Sure, they usually only take out armed prey, but they will do it even when the prey isn't aware they are in danger.  They generally won't hunt females.  The Predator does shoot at Arnie a few times even when Arnie has been disarmed.  It would be the 'honorable' thing to take him on hand to hand.

Sometimes they try to fight fair (to get the respect of their clan or whatever), but they can and do fish with dynamite.


Fair enough, though shooting at Arnie was still "fair" because they'd already started fighting at that point.

Also, it does seem like some of the predators are more dickish than others, or at least more "into the challenge".
 
2022-05-16 1:58:18 PM  

Lord Bear: In the 'good' predator movies (1 and 2), the predator is an ambush hunter and not particularly sporting.


Which is fine because there's only one predator, versus a whole lot of humans all with projectile weapons. They have the numerical advantage, he has the tactical advantage/element of surprise. That's perfectly fair.

For instance: He took out the guy with the biggest gun in the safest manner possible -- from behind. What was he supposed to do, approach from the front and decloak to say hi first? Versus a gun that can mow a down an entire farking forest (and did in the hands of Bill Duke)? A frontal assault is not just unstrategic, it's farking suicide. The Predator is brave and has a code of honor, but he's not stupid.
 
2022-05-16 2:04:06 PM  

palelizard: Fair enough, though shooting at Arnie was still "fair" because they'd already started fighting at that point.

Also, it does seem like some of the predators are more dickish than others, or at least more "into the challenge".


They are trophy hunters.  Trophy hunters are not really known for their honor.  In the end all they really want is something to hang on their wall.

The only real chivalry shown in either of the first 2 movies was the other predators letting Danny Glover go.  All other acts of chivalry is more of a hunter ethos (which is only applied sometimes).

Ishkur: Both predators behave exactly the same: They identify early on that Arnold and Danny Glover are the alpha males worthy of a prize, so they kill everyone they love or come into contact with to goad them into retaliating. They kill to provoke.


To some extent maybe.  Except both predators straight up try to shoot the 'alpha' several times.  They never fight in a sporting fashion until forced to by our protagonist.
 
2022-05-16 2:10:03 PM  
I wouldn't have thought they could do a movie about tracking software for computers.  That's just weird.
 
2022-05-16 2:12:49 PM  

labman: I wouldn't have thought they could do a movie about tracking software for computers.  That's just weird.


Oh, they did that a while back.

The Social Network
 
2022-05-16 2:13:04 PM  

Ishkur: Lord Bear: In the 'good' predator movies (1 and 2), the predator is an ambush hunter and not particularly sporting.

Which is fine because there's only one predator, versus a whole lot of humans all with projectile weapons. They have the numerical advantage, he has the tactical advantage/element of surprise. That's perfectly fair.

For instance: He took out the guy with the biggest gun in the safest manner possible -- from behind. What was he supposed to do, approach from the front and decloak to say hi first? Versus a gun that can mow a down an entire farking forest (and did in the hands of Bill Duke)? A frontal assault is not just unstrategic, it's farking suicide. The Predator is brave and has a code of honor, but he's not stupid.


I actually kind of like the whole Predator "honor culture" thing.  It's not that they can't or won't use cheap tricks or an overwhelming tech advantage, it's just considered a much less impressive feat if they do.  It's a direct parallel with hunters using knives/bows/high-powered rifles/dynamite:  It's not a moral failing, but it's a tacit admission that you weren't good enough to get the job done without that advantage.
 
2022-05-16 2:22:17 PM  

palelizard: Fair enough, though shooting at Arnie was still "fair" because they'd already started fighting at that point.


It's my suspicion that the first Predator was a juvenile on his first hunt, like a bar mitzvah or something. He wasn't very good at it, nor was he representative of his species' typical hunting prowess and honor cred.
 
2022-05-16 2:26:13 PM  

Lord Bear: Except both predators straight up try to shoot the 'alpha' several times.


The operative word is "try". As in they are not trying to kill, they are trying to provoke.

They want the alpha to start chasing them. They want a one-on-one fight. And they don't disarm until the alpha disarms.
 
2022-05-16 2:35:17 PM  
If this takes place 300 years ago, shouldn't the Predator's arms be somewhat less sophisticated. I mean, I guess they're still capable of interstellar travel, so it might be moot, but over the course of 300 years, you'd think their technology would advance considerably (and therefore, the technology of 300 years earlier would be somewhat more crude). But no, still the same laser targeting system.

Hell, it only took us 100 years to go from a muzzle-loader to a machine gun. I think it would be interesting to see a Predator without overwhelming arms or at least not the same level of technology that they enjoyed in the films set in modern times. Like maybe the camouflage system is crappy or non-existent.

Or whatever. It's just a stupid movie.
 
2022-05-16 2:59:58 PM  

lifeslammer: Sounds like you dont know what a crossbow can do


Those aren't crossbows.
They aren't even longbows.
The draw-weights of native American bows were about 30-40, maybe 45#, tops.
 
2022-05-16 3:27:04 PM  
I think we should start seeing some signs of cultural change in the movies so more primitive weapons would be cool.  Like some jerk mentioned 2 posts above it's not like it's the same era for them as the previous movies.

Also it's been my long held suspicion that the Predator is based in Boba Fett.  Someone saw a cool looking space alien who hunts, doesn't talk much, wears a cool helmet, scifi weapons and cool wrist tech and ran with it.
 
2022-05-16 3:52:38 PM  

Ishkur: Anyway -- bringing advanced futuristic weaponry on a neolithic hunt seems not very sporting. The Predator ought to ditch the shoulder mounted gun and use wooden weapons only.


Neither is using a cloaking device. The predators were never sporting. Just like human hunters.
 
2022-05-16 4:31:24 PM  

Lord Bear: The only real chivalry shown in either of the first 2 movies was the other predators letting Danny Glover go.  All other acts of chivalry is more of a hunter ethos (which is only applied sometimes).


Which, somehow, and don't ask me where I got this from, I got it in my head that the Predator in P2 was actually a criminal, being hunted by his own people. So they were just giving Danny Glover some professional courtesy as it were, as they were basically Predator Cops.

There's nothing in the film that actually suggests that, but as a kid I was 100% convinced that's what I saw in the film.
 
2022-05-16 6:07:52 PM  

NeoCortex42: So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.


Still not as bad as the Halloween franchise.
 
2022-05-16 6:11:17 PM  
Kind of interested in this because Amber Midthunder was really awesome in Legion.
 
2022-05-16 6:53:56 PM  

Ishkur: Lord Bear: NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: I'm marginally exited for this.  There hasn't been a decent Predator movie since Predator 2 (I will die on that hill).

At least the setup for this one is refreshing.

Predators at least had made an attempt to try something new, even if the result was mediocre.  The Predator was okay.  Nothing great, but I would have shown up to any sequels that continued that story.

I didn't hate Predators or The Predator, just found them very meh.  I genuinely like Predator 2 as a solid sequel to the original in a new setting and slightly expanded mythos.  The other two just go back to the well and any mythos expansion is kind of stupid at best.

Yeah, it seems the more we learn about it, the less interesting it becomes. Maybe don't explain so much of its history and origin and traits. It works best as an invisible force of nature that the protagonist must overcome.

Anyway -- bringing advanced futuristic weaponry on a neolithic hunt seems not very sporting. The Predator ought to ditch the shoulder mounted gun and use wooden weapons only.


also Predator worked because Anrold looks like he could hold his own agains the greatest hunter in the galaxy! We are suppose to believe skinny chick with a stone ax is suppose to beat the monster with a laser plasma guided missile! WTF is the writer on because it is NOT good shat. You want a female lead, fine, go to MMA gyms and keep going until, you can find a woman who can act twice as good as Carrano or check in the IDF. Then set the damn movie in Israel.

/ I am in the wrong line of work
 
2022-05-16 6:59:45 PM  

JerkStore: If this takes place 300 years ago, shouldn't the Predator's arms be somewhat less sophisticated.


Most writers are hacks.

I mean, I guess they're still capable of interstellar travel, so it might be moot, but over the course of 300 years, you'd think their technology would advance considerably (and therefore, the technology of 300 years earlier would be somewhat more crude). But no, still the same laser targeting system.

Hell, it only took us 100 years to go from a muzzle-loader to a machine gun. I think it would be interesting to see a Predator without overwhelming arms or at least not the same level of technology that they enjoyed in the films set in modern times. Like maybe the camouflage system is crappy or non-existent.

Or whatever. It's just a stupid movie.


The first Predator was "a stupid movie" but it might be citizen Kane compared to this.
 
2022-05-16 7:28:04 PM  

ReaverZ: JerkStore: If this takes place 300 years ago, shouldn't the Predator's arms be somewhat less sophisticated.

Most writers are hacks.

I mean, I guess they're still capable of interstellar travel, so it might be moot, but over the course of 300 years, you'd think their technology would advance considerably (and therefore, the technology of 300 years earlier would be somewhat more crude). But no, still the same laser targeting system.

Hell, it only took us 100 years to go from a muzzle-loader to a machine gun. I think it would be interesting to see a Predator without overwhelming arms or at least not the same level of technology that they enjoyed in the films set in modern times. Like maybe the camouflage system is crappy or non-existent.

Or whatever. It's just a stupid movie.

The first Predator was "a stupid movie" but it might be citizen Kane compared to this.


Maybe the weapons we saw in the first movie are the equivalent to muskets in the Predator culture. Old ceremonial weapons instead of the state-of-the-art stuff.

They are handicapping themselves intentionally by using their ancient weapons because they feel it is more fair fight.

Hell, maybe the Predator culture is really advanced and mostly peaceful and all we ever see are its dentists in the middle of a midlife crisis.
 
2022-05-16 7:30:18 PM  

ReaverZ: Ishkur: Lord Bear: NeoCortex42: Lord Bear: I'm marginally exited for this.  There hasn't been a decent Predator movie since Predator 2 (I will die on that hill).

At least the setup for this one is refreshing.

Predators at least had made an attempt to try something new, even if the result was mediocre.  The Predator was okay.  Nothing great, but I would have shown up to any sequels that continued that story.

I didn't hate Predators or The Predator, just found them very meh.  I genuinely like Predator 2 as a solid sequel to the original in a new setting and slightly expanded mythos.  The other two just go back to the well and any mythos expansion is kind of stupid at best.

Yeah, it seems the more we learn about it, the less interesting it becomes. Maybe don't explain so much of its history and origin and traits. It works best as an invisible force of nature that the protagonist must overcome.

Anyway -- bringing advanced futuristic weaponry on a neolithic hunt seems not very sporting. The Predator ought to ditch the shoulder mounted gun and use wooden weapons only.

also Predator worked because Anrold looks like he could hold his own agains the greatest hunter in the galaxy! We are suppose to believe skinny chick with a stone ax is suppose to beat the monster with a laser plasma guided missile! WTF is the writer on because it is NOT good shat. You want a female lead, fine, go to MMA gyms and keep going until, you can find a woman who can act twice as good as Carrano or check in the IDF. Then set the damn movie in Israel.

/ I am in the wrong line of work


I dunno. Machiko Noguchi made an impression.

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2022-05-16 7:35:27 PM  

Ishkur: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.

Predators aren't people. They hunt for the challenge. If it's not challenging, what's the point? There's no honor in an easy fight -- it needs to be fair. They've demonstrated this "chivalry" over and over and over again. It's one of the more consistent and overly remarkable traits that they have.

People hunt because they're selfish pricks who don't care about fairness. They use dynamite to hunt fish for crying out loud.


In previous Predator movies, merely picking up a weapon makes you fair game. I think people read way too much nobility into Predator actions. I think it's more like they walk around looking for any type of challenge, even a minimal challenge. If you have a knife, you're a challenge. Spear or bow and arrow? Challenge. The bigger issue I have is we know Predators use infrared. Primitive people have no knowledge of infrared, much less how to block it. So there will have to be some early, contrived plot point where an arrow knocks the Predator's infrared detection out.
 
2022-05-16 7:36:30 PM  

NeoCortex42: Chief Superintendent Lookout: NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: NeoCortex42: So we've got:
Predator
Predator 2
Predators
The Predator
Prey


This is worse than the farking sequel titling for Rambo films.

Really should have been:
Predator
Predator 2
Predatres
Predafour
Pentator
Predator 6: Assignment Miami Beach

In that case, the prequel should be Pre-dator.

Son of Predator
Predator: Days of Glory
Return of The Predator
Ultimate Predator - or - How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Aliens
The Rise of The Predator
Predator Unleashed

To Catch a Predator


You magnificent bass-turd.  You earned it.

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2022-05-16 8:07:14 PM  
I wasn't able to get through the last movie, but I didn't think Predators was that bad at all.  I liked it more than the second one, that's for sure.
 
2022-05-16 8:16:51 PM  

Birnone: Ishkur: Lord Bear: People hunt deer for sport too.

Predators aren't people. They hunt for the challenge. If it's not challenging, what's the point? There's no honor in an easy fight -- it needs to be fair. They've demonstrated this "chivalry" over and over and over again. It's one of the more consistent and overly remarkable traits that they have.

People hunt because they're selfish pricks who don't care about fairness. They use dynamite to hunt fish for crying out loud.

In previous Predator movies, merely picking up a weapon makes you fair game. I think people read way too much nobility into Predator actions. I think it's more like they walk around looking for any type of challenge, even a minimal challenge. If you have a knife, you're a challenge. Spear or bow and arrow? Challenge. The bigger issue I have is we know Predators use infrared. Primitive people have no knowledge of infrared, much less how to block it. So there will have to be some early, contrived plot point where an arrow knocks the Predator's infrared detection out.


They could figure it out the same way Arnold did. Get covered in mud and realize the alien can't see them. You don't need to know why something worked to use it.
 
2022-05-16 9:46:02 PM  

Birnone: I think people read way too much nobility into Predator actions. I think it's more like they walk around looking for any type of challenge, even a minimal challenge. If you have a knife, you're a challenge. Spear or bow and arrow? Challenge.


Bingo.  They go into this more in the AvP comics and the like, but basically, Predator society revolves around the hunt, with a heavy dose of gatekeeping.  The bigger/more dangerous the prey, and the less tech you use to take that prey down, the more respected you are, the higher your ranking in society, the more mating offers you get, etc.  Think of it as "fishing with dynamite" vs. "deer hunting with a high-powered rifle" vs. "deer hunting with a bow" vs. "boar hunting with a spear/gator hunting with a bowie knife."  It's technically perfectly accepted to go fishing with dynamite, but the "real hunters" are going to laugh at you if you try to brag about it, and it's all about being a "real hunter."
 
2022-05-16 11:05:07 PM  

t3knomanser: as they were basically Predator Cops.


Even interplanetary cops stick together.

Preadator: "Hey, let us deal with the paperwork. This won't go in the report. He had it coming. He was hopped up on goofballs. Here, take this gun. You've earned it. Now take off before more of your people arrive."

Danny Glover: "What do you mean 'you people'?"

Predator: "You know exactly what I mean. Now get the fark outta here."
 
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