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(BBC-US)   Russia nationalizes Renault's Moscow plant in bid to make even worse cars   (bbc.com) divider line
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2022-05-16 10:49:23 AM  
Time for Macron to call Putin again.
 
2022-05-16 11:28:28 AM  
The war is saved! They will rapidly begin production of thousands of these:

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2022-05-16 11:28:55 AM  

BigMax: Time for Macron to call Putin again.


Fifty eighth time is the charm...
 
2022-05-16 11:57:59 AM  
Maybe they will start making Ladas again. I love watching those things get demolished in dashcam videos.
 
2022-05-16 11:58:41 AM  
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2022-05-16 12:01:05 PM  
I'm sure if Macron gives a few more companies over to Putin, this whole thing will blow over. Maybe some land.

Oh, is it different when it's your country, Macron? Curious.
 
2022-05-16 12:02:51 PM  
And they went into the factory to find everything bsoded with all data wiped remotely
 
2022-05-16 12:07:42 PM  
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Le Czar
 
2022-05-16 12:08:00 PM  
Worse than Renault?

Former Renault Alliance owner.

Top Gear Peugeot Meeting
Youtube JQugEZOrZSc


I know.  Peugot/Renault what's le diff?
 
2022-05-16 12:08:28 PM  
Hi guys! What's going on in...nevermind.
 
2022-05-16 12:10:13 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Worse than Renault?

Former Renault Alliance owner.

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I know.  Peugot/Renault what's le diff?


Top Gear - Communist Car outtake
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2022-05-16 12:18:10 PM  
Heaven: where the French are the cooks, the British are the police, and the Germans are the engineers.

Hell: where the British are the cooks, the Germans are the police, and the French are the engineers.

That part of Hell no one talks about: where the French engineers and Russian engineers get drunk and build cars.
 
2022-05-16 12:21:19 PM  
Yup people will just line up to invest into post war Russia now, maybe the GQP and Best Korea.
 
2022-05-16 12:26:09 PM  
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2022-05-16 12:26:11 PM  
...and nothing of value was lost. A Russian copy of a bad car? That will hurt - on the other hand, soon, that will be the ONLY car company in Russia.
 
2022-05-16 12:37:17 PM  
Hey subby, I'll have you know that alot of DeLoreans had Renault engines and they're doing just fi-

wait, what?

Never mind.
 
2022-05-16 12:39:29 PM  
Ha ha.

And Ukraine should make a deal with Putin, who never adheres to the terms of any deal.
 
2022-05-16 12:42:35 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Worse than Renault?

Former Renault Alliance owner.

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I know.  Peugot/Renault what's le diff?


A friend of mine had an 87 Alliance.  The hatch wouldn't latch so he had to tie it down with rope.
 
2022-05-16 12:42:41 PM  
Nationalizes!  What are they, Commies?
 
2022-05-16 12:42:43 PM  
With what parts?
 
2022-05-16 1:02:56 PM  

groppet: Best Korea


Given that Best Korea just announced over a million people have Covid, I somehow doubt it.
 
2022-05-16 1:11:42 PM  
Good luck pumping out cars that aren't antiquated crap with all-domestic Russian materials.

Nationalize whatever you want. It doesn't create the ability to produce a good car. Bunch of Russian Millenials are about to learn what the USSR was like in the 60's-80's.
 
2022-05-16 1:45:08 PM  
They could always dust off the Trabant body molds that they took when the eastern bloc went all Trump Casino. I'm sure China can hook them up with some Harbor Freight-esque Honda clone engines to stick in them on the cheap. The upside is, if they use the original construction materials, the orcs can use them in the Blyatzkrieg, and if the get lit up by the Ukrainians, the burning Trabant body gives off all the toxins..
 
2022-05-16 1:52:40 PM  
Famously, the IMZ Ural is what happened when the Russians tried to build BMW motorcycles.  There's an interesting story about someone trying to take one on the Iron Butt Rally - a 11,000 cross-country race.

To its credit, it did complete the race, but required multiple engine swaps to do so.

That's with a German design built by Russians.

God only knows what will happen when the Russians try to build a French design.  It'll probably burst into flames or something when it rolls off the new car lot.

Maybe there will be a Ukrainian farmer with a tractor nearby to help.
 
2022-05-16 2:05:18 PM  

jack_o_the_hills: They could always dust off the Trabant body molds that they took when the eastern bloc went all Trump Casino. I'm sure China can hook them up with some Harbor Freight-esque Honda clone engines to stick in them on the cheap. The upside is, if they use the original construction materials, the orcs can use them in the Blyatzkrieg, and if the get lit up by the Ukrainians, the burning Trabant body gives off all the toxins..


I had the pleasure of driving one of those a couple years ago.  It was equal parts pleasure and terror.

It was like driving a homemade car built by someone who'd read a book about cars, but never driven one themself.

Srsly, if any Farkers are planning a trip to Berlin and can drive standard, if recommend trying it out before they all break down and are lost to history.
 
2022-05-16 2:18:43 PM  
Might as well bring back the Trabant just for shiats and giggles.
 
2022-05-16 2:35:52 PM  
Renault - Fiat Stellantis  You say tomato I say tomato.

If Putin had a brain, and not some cult extremo nationalist running his rule, he'd have figured that becoming the car parts capital of the world would have made Russian "products" more valued than oil or his exporting terror.  He wouldn't have bombed shipping ports or schools or hospitals, etc.    Russians love cars.  Russia and the Middle East are like a Mercedes museum, like Cuba is a 1957 American car museum.

Of course there is the quality control issue.
 
2022-05-16 3:02:15 PM  

THX 1138: Hey subby, I'll have you know that alot of DeLoreans had Renault engines and they're doing just fi-

wait, what?

Never mind.


a lot*
 
2022-05-16 3:33:21 PM  

Palined Parenthood: THX 1138: Hey subby, I'll have you know that alot of DeLoreans had Renault engines and they're doing just fi-

wait, what?

Never mind.

a lot*


Yes, I have stupid clumsy fingers and my phone takes my typing literally because it hasn't learned to read my mind yet.

At least I'm not in Pricipal Sayof territory (so far).
 
2022-05-16 4:04:37 PM  
update: the mayor of Moscow announced the plant will be used to produce the Moskvich
 
2022-05-16 4:13:23 PM  

THX 1138: jack_o_the_hills: They could always dust off the Trabant body molds that they took when the eastern bloc went all Trump Casino. I'm sure China can hook them up with some Harbor Freight-esque Honda clone engines to stick in them on the cheap. The upside is, if they use the original construction materials, the orcs can use them in the Blyatzkrieg, and if the get lit up by the Ukrainians, the burning Trabant body gives off all the toxins..

I had the pleasure of driving one of those a couple years ago.  It was equal parts pleasure and terror.

It was like driving a homemade car built by someone who'd read a book about cars, but never driven one themself.

Srsly, if any Farkers are planning a trip to Berlin and can drive standard, if recommend trying it out before they all break down and are lost to history.


They'll never break down - the weird plastic body panels are essentially Armageddon-proof, and the engine can be repaired with whatever metal, wire, wood, plastic or whatever you have lying around.
 
2022-05-16 5:24:05 PM  

THX 1138: I had the pleasure of driving one of those a couple years ago.  It was equal parts pleasure and terror.

It was like driving a homemade car built by someone who'd read a book about cars, but never driven one themself.


When I was in China 20 years ago, they had a copy of the Lada that they made themselves. It felt like riding on one of those toy horses outside of stores way back when. The springs were incredibly soft, no body panel fit together right and the seats were the most hollow springy things you've ever sat on. It was a trip to ride in them. Top speed was maybe 100km/h.
 
2022-05-16 7:11:00 PM  

phimuskapsi: THX 1138: I had the pleasure of driving one of those a couple years ago.  It was equal parts pleasure and terror.

It was like driving a homemade car built by someone who'd read a book about cars, but never driven one themself.

When I was in China 20 years ago, they had a copy of the Lada that they made themselves. It felt like riding on one of those toy horses outside of stores way back when. The springs were incredibly soft, no body panel fit together right and the seats were the most hollow springy things you've ever sat on. It was a trip to ride in them. Top speed was maybe 100km/h.


When you turn on the ignition and the passenger part of the car fills with blue 2-stroke fumes, you know you're in for a good trip!
 
2022-05-16 7:25:28 PM  
A Renault was the crappiest car my parents ever owned. The second crappiest was one of the early Hyundais. The third was an old Ford pickup.
 
2022-05-16 10:27:00 PM  

THX 1138: phimuskapsi: THX 1138: I had the pleasure of driving one of those a couple years ago.  It was equal parts pleasure and terror.

It was like driving a homemade car built by someone who'd read a book about cars, but never driven one themself.

When I was in China 20 years ago, they had a copy of the Lada that they made themselves. It felt like riding on one of those toy horses outside of stores way back when. The springs were incredibly soft, no body panel fit together right and the seats were the most hollow springy things you've ever sat on. It was a trip to ride in them. Top speed was maybe 100km/h.

When you turn on the ignition and the passenger part of the car fills with blue 2-stroke fumes, you know you're in for a good trip!


Those did exist, but these had honest to god car engines!

They had mostly been phased out when I arrived, replaced by real VW Passats.
 
2022-05-16 10:36:08 PM  
Well better late than never, I guess...

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2022-05-17 5:17:33 AM  

THX 1138: Hey subby, I'll have you know that alot of DeLoreans had Renault engines and they're doing just fi-

wait, what?

Never mind.


All DeLoreans had the PRV. The PRV wasn't a bad engine, at least not after it was mildly reworked in the mid-80s which was too late to save DMC.

DeLoreans bigger problems were that the cars were built by potato farmers in NI and that they cost nearly 2x more yet had 20% less power than the same year Corvette. So it was a combination of poor workmanship, overpriced, and underpowered.

Anyway French cars until the mid 80s were mostly crap. They became quite good in the mid 90s though. I mean I'd still usually prefer a competing Honda or a Suzuki but there are some compelling Gallic cars out there, at least in the EUDM; their most interesting cars usually don't go to the States.
 
2022-05-17 2:21:07 PM  
It's no 2CV.

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2022-05-17 4:40:47 PM  
When I was a kid and we lived in Scotland (USAF Brat), the family next door had a 1959 Renault Dauphine, right-hand drive. I was used to RHD cars but watching the Dad try to find reverse was enough to make the neighborhood break out treats and popcorn. It just seemed so confusing and the grinding of gears was horrific. They had a family of 5. Seeing them crammed into that white egg with wheels made me feel guilty for the room we had in our VandenPlas Estate (wagon) for just the 3 of us. Especially when they were trying to squeeze in a mother-in-law. We did a lot of weekend trips so having room for luggage was nice. They barely had room for Baby. When we left, Sir sold them our 2nd car (a Ford Cortina but they kept the Dauphine). Brother, in the Army in Augsburg, W. Germany, bought the Estate car and used it to buy a Triumph Spitfire 1600, cherry red and he brought it back to the States on his troopship, then drove it from NJ to IL for his discharge. We went from Scotland to Hawaii where Sir bought an Olds Dynamic 88 sedan and a Pontiac convertible (a Fire Chief?). But, watching Neighbor try to back his Dauphine into his garage was a sure way to get the children in our lane to gather and watch.
 
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