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2022-05-16 3:32:40 AM  
I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...
 
2022-05-16 3:34:41 AM  
Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.
 
2022-05-16 3:36:28 AM  
Oh no!

Anyway...
 
2022-05-16 3:39:37 AM  
They aren't slaves, it's a contract. Break a contract, there are penalties.
 
2022-05-16 3:42:19 AM  

TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...


Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.
 
2022-05-16 3:53:35 AM  
The costs can be as much as $200,000, or more, and any final decision on repayment is made by the service secretary.

I hear student loans are all the rage these days.
 
2022-05-16 4:09:03 AM  

koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.


Isn't the Air Force already a hive of ultra-right, fundie-Christer derp?
 
2022-05-16 4:12:41 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.


True, but irrelevant. The order is legal, and requiring troop vaccinations has a history dating back to the revolutionary war.
 
2022-05-16 4:19:13 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.


They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?
 
2022-05-16 4:22:35 AM  
Didn't we have this discussion recently?

I asked my dad about it and he said when he went through basic they marched in a line and got shots in the arm for all the stuff. If you were inoculated for things like malaria what then would make you resist this?
 
2022-05-16 4:22:39 AM  

TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...


Step back from the beer and try writing that again. I think I get what you were trying to say.
 
2022-05-16 4:26:40 AM  

optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?


*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.
 
2022-05-16 4:30:22 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.


We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.
 
2022-05-16 4:32:38 AM  

Valter: Didn't we have this discussion recently?

I asked my dad about it and he said when he went through basic they marched in a line and got shots in the arm for all the stuff. If you were inoculated for things like malaria what then would make you resist this?


Space laser controlling cell phones.

Anyways...it makes a good nutcase detector to boot out those that won't follow orders.
"Saaaaarg...take that hill, why? There's a perfectly good hill way over there we could take..."
 
2022-05-16 4:35:35 AM  
If your religious beliefs are in conflict with a lawful order, and you choose to prioritize your religious beliefs, then that's fine, as long as you also choose to leave military service. The DoD has religious exemptions in place for numerous issues, because the military wants to respect what you believe, but there are certain areas where exemptions are not granted, due to the importance of the issue. Not infecting your fellow airmen is pretty important.

It's like that Army officer who refused to participate in the Iraq War on grounds of morality. Ok, fine. Be a moral civilian. No hard feelings. I'm not going to criticize someone for standing up for what they believe in. I admire that kind of conviction. But it's a profession of arms, not a buffet where you can pick and choose which lawful orders to follow. If the military isn't a good fit for someone with your personal beliefs, then it's not the military's responsibility to conform to and retain you.
 
2022-05-16 4:47:06 AM  

optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?


I dunno, reading?

I wasn't saying vaccines are illegal, just responding to orders being optional, like the person I quoted?
 
2022-05-16 5:10:30 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

I dunno, reading?

I wasn't saying vaccines are illegal, just responding to orders being optional, like the person I quoted?


Orders are optional if you don't care what the consequences are.
 
2022-05-16 5:11:03 AM  

aagrajag: We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.


You're 18 months late on that one. Get back into the ivermectin line with the rest of the cattle, what color eartag do you want?
 
2022-05-16 5:25:04 AM  

Theeng: AppleOptionEsc: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

I dunno, reading?

I wasn't saying vaccines are illegal, just responding to orders being optional, like the person I quoted?

Orders are optional if you don't care what the consequences are.


I love the "but... but... illegal orders!" morans.

The assumption at your court martial will be that the order was legal.  If you are going to use that as your defense, it is incumbent upon you to prove that it wasn't.  And good luck with that.

"Get your shots, grunt" is not now, nor has it ever been, an illegal order.

/ See also:  Movement orders.
 
2022-05-16 5:25:27 AM  

aagrajag: koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.

Isn't the Air Force already a hive of ultra-right, fundie-Christer derp?


There's been several threads about that here. Apparently Colorado Springs is rife with them.
 
2022-05-16 5:26:46 AM  

aagrajag: OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.

We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.


Ivermectin is an abortifacient.
 
2022-05-16 5:27:51 AM  
Sounds like they picked the Highway toooo the danger zone!
 
2022-05-16 5:46:37 AM  

aagrajag: koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.

Isn't the Air Force already a hive of ultra-right, fundie-Christer derp?


Right next door to the AF academy is Focus on the Family's Funland. Coincidence?
 
2022-05-16 5:51:15 AM  

Rent Party: Theeng: AppleOptionEsc: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

I dunno, reading?

I wasn't saying vaccines are illegal, just responding to orders being optional, like the person I quoted?

Orders are optional if you don't care what the consequences are.

I love the "but... but... illegal orders!" morans.

The assumption at your court martial will be that the order was legal.  If you are going to use that as your defense, it is incumbent upon you to prove that it wasn't.  And good luck with that.

"Get your shots, grunt" is not now, nor has it ever been, an illegal order.

/ See also:  Movement orders.


Went through the cattle chute at Great Lakes in 2010 (I think it was one of the last times with the vaccination guns) it really was an meat-processing like experience all culminating in 6-8 people bent over a table getting getting their peanut butter shot in the ass and the speech about not jumping from your top bunk the next morning.
 
2022-05-16 6:46:30 AM  

Maziou: If your religious beliefs are in conflict with a lawful order, and you choose to prioritize your religious beliefs, then that's fine, as long as you also choose to leave military service. The DoD has religious exemptions in place for numerous issues, because the military wants to respect what you believe, but there are certain areas where exemptions are not granted, due to the importance of the issue. Not infecting your fellow airmen is pretty important.

It's like that Army officer who refused to participate in the Iraq War on grounds of morality. Ok, fine. Be a moral civilian. No hard feelings. I'm not going to criticize someone for standing up for what they believe in. I admire that kind of conviction. But it's a profession of arms, not a buffet where you can pick and choose which lawful orders to follow. If the military isn't a good fit for someone with your personal beliefs, then it's not the military's responsibility to conform to and retain you.


That response is calm, civil, and charitable.

My take was "fark those guys."
Yours works, too.
 
2022-05-16 6:47:14 AM  

Gunboat: Maziou: If your religious beliefs are in conflict with a lawful order, and you choose to prioritize your religious beliefs, then that's fine, as long as you also choose to leave military service. The DoD has religious exemptions in place for numerous issues, because the military wants to respect what you believe, but there are certain areas where exemptions are not granted, due to the importance of the issue. Not infecting your fellow airmen is pretty important.

It's like that Army officer who refused to participate in the Iraq War on grounds of morality. Ok, fine. Be a moral civilian. No hard feelings. I'm not going to criticize someone for standing up for what they believe in. I admire that kind of conviction. But it's a profession of arms, not a buffet where you can pick and choose which lawful orders to follow. If the military isn't a good fit for someone with your personal beliefs, then it's not the military's responsibility to conform to and retain you.

That response is calm, civil, and charitable.

My take was "fark those guys."
Yours works, too.


Also: if you're too dumb to get vaccinated, you are too dumb to be a military officer.
 
2022-05-16 6:52:10 AM  
I assume these same gentlemen opted out of the 1st week of vaccinations that comes with basic training, yes? Because that's a thing you're allowed to do and still continue serving.
 
2022-05-16 6:54:27 AM  

aagrajag: koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.

Isn't the Air Force already a hive of ultra-right, fundie-Christer derp?


It used to be the smartest branch of the service.  How times change.
 
2022-05-16 6:55:09 AM  

Valter: Didn't we have this discussion recently?

I asked my dad about it and he said when he went through basic they marched in a line and got shots in the arm for all the stuff. If you were inoculated for things like malaria what then would make you resist this?


The internets.
 
2022-05-16 6:56:33 AM  

aagrajag: OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.

We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.


Who says it doesn't?
 
2022-05-16 7:00:59 AM  

Exile On Beale Street: aagrajag: OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.

We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.

Ivermectin is an abortifacient.


It's got what slunks crave.
 
2022-05-16 7:05:10 AM  

Monocultured: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

True, but irrelevant. The order is legal, and requiring troop vaccinations has a history dating back to the revolutionary war.


Wait, George Washington had use of the Air Force?  No wonder we beat the Brits!
 
2022-05-16 7:36:53 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: aagrajag: koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.

Isn't the Air Force already a hive of ultra-right, fundie-Christer derp?

It used to be the smartest branch of the service.  How times change.


Some of the dumbest intelligent people you will ever meet.
 
2022-05-16 7:52:22 AM  

Maziou: If your religious beliefs are in conflict with a lawful order, and you choose to prioritize your religious beliefs, then that's fine, as long as you also choose to leave military service. The DoD has religious exemptions in place for numerous issues, because the military wants to respect what you believe, but there are certain areas where exemptions are not granted, due to the importance of the issue. Not infecting your fellow airmen is pretty important.

It's like that Army officer who refused to participate in the Iraq War on grounds of morality. Ok, fine. Be a moral civilian. No hard feelings. I'm not going to criticize someone for standing up for what they believe in. I admire that kind of conviction. But it's a profession of arms, not a buffet where you can pick and choose which lawful orders to follow. If the military isn't a good fit for someone with your personal beliefs, then it's not the military's responsibility to conform to and retain you.


A part of it for me in this case is what mitigation actions are you willing to take.

For example we have a soldier that put in for a religious exemption. He wears a mask everyday in all cases and gets tested regularly as required by the commander. He is not upsetting good order and discipline because he is willing to do extra to protect himself and others while asking for an exemption from the barest minimum to meet his religious requirements. He is not questioning the order itself but stating he has a specific issue

As opposed to the asshole in the unit refusing the vaccine claims it is illegal, refused to take any harm mitigating actions (such as wearing a mask, or getting regularly tested to ensure he is not endangering others), and is generally was an asshole. That guy is a threat to good order and discipline, and is not acting in anyone's best interest. Especially when he his caught breaking other requirements of his religion.
 
2022-05-16 8:03:28 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.


The first vaccine developed was for small pox in 1796.  A little late for Washington's era.  Vaccines development found it's stride in the late 1800s with with vaccines being developed for cholera - 1880, rabies - 1885, tetanus  - 1890, typhoid - 1896 and bubonic plague - 1897.  Maybe the TheodoreRoosevelt era would be more accurate.
 
2022-05-16 8:05:22 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.


I was shot up with Anthrax and had to get the smallpox vaccine before getting sent to Iraq about 18 years ago when I was in the Air Force. There was no option to refuse. These four cadets are fragile, selfish little snowflakes who think their irrational fears are more important than unit readiness. I'm glad they are taking themselves out of the uniform before working a single day on active duty.
 
2022-05-16 8:16:47 AM  

Muta: OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.

The first vaccine developed was for small pox in 1796.  A little late for Washington's era.  Vaccines development found it's stride in the late 1800s with with vaccines being developed for cholera - 1880, rabies - 1885, tetanus  - 1890, typhoid - 1896 and bubonic plague - 1897.  Maybe the TheodoreRoosevelt era would be more accurate.


Yeah, and yet more than a handful of sources document Washington doing just what I referenced...
 
2022-05-16 8:16:58 AM  

The Drawing Board: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

I was shot up with Anthrax and had to get the smallpox vaccine before getting sent to Iraq about 18 years ago when I was in the Air Force. There was no option to refuse. These four cadets are fragile, selfish little snowflakes who think their irrational fears are more important than unit readiness. I'm glad they are taking themselves out of the uniform before working a single day on active duty.


Yes, I was being "the well akschully" guy. I have been made well aware this thread that being that guy implied I am condoning anti-vaxx MAGA'ts. I do not, and understand you do what you are told when in the service.
 
2022-05-16 8:18:08 AM  

Muta: OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.

The first vaccine developed was for small pox in 1796.  A little late for Washington's era.  Vaccines development found it's stride in the late 1800s with with vaccines being developed for cholera - 1880, rabies - 1885, tetanus  - 1890, typhoid - 1896 and bubonic plague - 1897.  Maybe the TheodoreRoosevelt era would be more accurate.


https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-george-washington-mandate-vaccines-for-his-army/19807935/?version=amp

Meant to attach to my prior post.
 
2022-05-16 8:24:29 AM  

Muta: The first vaccine developed was for small pox in 1796.  A little late for Washington's era.  Vaccines development found it's stride in the late 1800s with with vaccines being developed for cholera - 1880, rabies - 1885, tetanus  - 1890, typhoid - 1896 and bubonic plague - 1897.  Maybe the TheodoreRoosevelt era would be more accurate.


https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-george-washington-mandate-vaccines-for-his-army/19807935/

"Finding the smallpox to be spreading much and fearing that no precaution can prevent it from running through the whole of our army, I have determined that troops shall be inoculated," he wrote.

Which ment that they had either had and recovered from the disese, or exposed to a lesser bit of the disease.
Not literally a 'vaccine' but a requirement.

Now...you're probably OCDing about the word "Vaccine" there.
Sorry about that...have you been treated for brain care OCD.
 
2022-05-16 8:28:39 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Exile On Beale Street: aagrajag: OmnomnomCookies: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

*clicks the buzzer*
Ooh, I know this. It's they have a right wing education!  It's not like vaccinations go back to the George Washington era.  I'm sure a troop could have said, "Whoa, smallpox vaccine? I heard that my kid could get autism." and George would have seen the error of his ways and put that guy in charge of everything.

We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.

Ivermectin is an abortifacient.

It's got what slunks crave.


*googles* Nice.
 
2022-05-16 8:47:18 AM  
Ordinarily, if an academy cadet cannot complete their stint at the academy, they could be given the alternative to serve as enlisted airmen for a number of years, as opposed to being on the hook for the cost of their academy education.  I don't see them being given this option if they are kicked out for refusing the vaccine, .
 
2022-05-16 9:58:09 AM  
Good. The AF doesn't need more kids to babysit.
 
2022-05-16 10:08:22 AM  
Remember when this place had "moderators"? And they would discipline people who trolled the forums?
And people who deliberately created chaos, filled threads with bullshiat, and intentionally wasted people's time and proudly boasted of it got banned?
Not any more.
 
2022-05-16 10:38:57 AM  

Theeng: AppleOptionEsc: optikeye: AppleOptionEsc: TorpedoOrca: I want aware that orders were optional when signing up for military service...

Well, you are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal. Pretty sure if your C.O. orders you to rape someone, you don't get out of that. Legally.

They pretty much give all the troops vaccines. Smallpox, Anthrax, Plague (I and II), etc.
It's not an option, or illegal. WTF is wrong with you?

I dunno, reading?

I wasn't saying vaccines are illegal, just responding to orders being optional, like the person I quoted?

Orders are optional if you don't care what the consequences are.


And anything's a dildo if you're brave enough.
 
2022-05-16 10:41:55 AM  

dbeshear: aagrajag: We should start a rumour to the effect that COVID makes you gay and trans.

You're 18 months late on that one. Get back into the ivermectin line with the rest of the cattle, what color eartag do you want?


Uh. He said COVID nott the COVID vaccine
 
2022-05-16 10:52:44 AM  

Sabreace22: backhand.slap.of.reason: aagrajag: koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.

Isn't the Air Force already a hive of ultra-right, fundie-Christer derp?

It used to be the smartest branch of the service.  How times change.

Some of the dumbest intelligent people you will ever meet.


They should have joined the military instead of the Air Force if they wanted to be the best and brightest.
 
2022-05-16 11:08:46 AM  
They have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And touched the face of Derp.
 
2022-05-16 11:19:36 AM  

koder: Four fewer MAGA officers; count the Air Force lucky.


Agreed.

Can't help but marvel, though, at the power of the antivax indoctrination regime. These guys must have planned on AFA as a path since middle school, competed their asses off to get in, managed 4 years, and are inches from the finish line... but won't take the prize because of a farking poke in the arm?

Boggling.
 
2022-05-16 11:31:38 AM  
I think you meant "personnel" problem, subby.

Thank God these assholes won't get to command anyone or anything...then again, they just might...
 
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  4. Click here to submit a link.