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(Texas Tribune)   The folks who promised the Texas electrical grid was winterized say there will be no blackouts in the coming heatwave as long as everybody stops using electricity. Like right now. M'kay?   (texastribune.org) divider line
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6 days ago  
Well it's not shutting down due to winter weather, right? A few more billion dollars to summerize the grid and you'll be all set.

/until autumn...
 
6 days ago  
Soooo, Ted's daughters want daddy to take them-back to Canada for the summer?
 
6 days ago  

Ivo Shandor: Well it's not shutting down due to winter weather, right? A few more billion dollars to summerize the grid and you'll be all set.

/until autumn...


You people are just being unreasonable with your demands of 24/7 electricity.
 
6 days ago  
This might be problematic tomorrow if Texans don't conserve.

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6 days ago  
Texas could have no problems if it utilised solar and wind energy, solar energy particularly is in abundance during the seasons when folks need to run their air-conditioners. But Texas lawmakers hate it, and hold it back. To the extent it has been implemented in Texas that's despite and not thanks to Republican dickwads.

I get why, say, industrial relations policy is politicised - it pits the rights of the working class against the rights of the employers, that's going to be political every day of the week.

But when energy policy gets politicised, that's when you know you're dealing with farkwits. Good luck, Texas.
 
6 days ago  
It's almost like God hates Texas and is punishing them.
 
6 days ago  
The free market will solve this problem.
 
6 days ago  
Well it's a good thing Texas has all those windmills or else they'd really be in trouble
 
6 days ago  

skybird659: Soooo, Ted's daughters want daddy to take them-back to Canada for the summer?


For abortions?
 
6 days ago  
My last apartment had a bad AC unit, so I got used to sleeping at Texas night conditions. I could get used to an 85°F night again.
 
6 days ago  
The Texas tag is already suffering a blackout on FARK
 
6 days ago  
Residents are asked not to use large appliances. Air conditioners, refrigerators, electric stoves...

(Mom's marital aid.)
 
6 days ago  
Rapeublican paradise.
 
6 days ago  
If only Texas had large, open areas they could use for supplementing their grid with solar.
 
6 days ago  

tuxq: If only Texas had large, open areas they could use for supplementing their grid with solar.


"Solar"? Is that a new kind of oil?
 
6 days ago  

Ivo Shandor: Well it's not shutting down due to winter weather, right? A few more billion dollars to summerize the grid and you'll be all set.

/until autumn...


Done in one.
 
6 days ago  
Hope youtube, twitter, Facebook etc all stop serving texassss after that new court ruling so nobody can even complain online about this.
 
6 days ago  
Those were Freedom Blackouts!
 
6 days ago  
Luckily Texans are kind, "look out for your neighbor" and "it takes a village" type of people that respect ideas like conservation.
 
6 days ago  
What does the Texas power grid and Russia's military incompetence have in common?

/republicans.
 
6 days ago  

Mad-n-FL: What does the Texas power grid and Russia's military incompetence have in common?

/republicans.


Now do California's power grid.

https://news.yahoo.com/rolling-blackouts-california-prepares-energy-061929922.html
 
6 days ago  

Eightballjacket: Mad-n-FL: What does the Texas power grid and Russia's military incompetence have in common?

/republicans.

Now do California's power grid.

https://news.yahoo.com/rolling-blackouts-california-prepares-energy-061929922.html


Remember when all those people froze to death in California due to blackouts?
 
6 days ago  
And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?
 
6 days ago  
Hey, come on, cut the Republicans overseeing Texas' electricity some slack. Who could have possibly predicted that this time of year it would start getting hot in Texas?
 
6 days ago  
Heeeeeey Abbott!  Maybe Disney will move to Texas!  I'm sure they'd dig not having reliable electricity.  But they could store unlimited amounts of ammonium nitrate right next to the Teacup Ride, which is nice.
 
6 days ago  

Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?


My brother leaves his fuse box OPEN. There's a reason it has a lid and is made of non flammable metal. He's an architect, he should know better.
 
6 days ago  

Fart Wrangler: Eightballjacket: Mad-n-FL: What does the Texas power grid and Russia's military incompetence have in common?

/republicans.

Now do California's power grid.

https://news.yahoo.com/rolling-blackouts-california-prepares-energy-061929922.html

Remember when all those people froze to death in California due to blackouts?


The posted article is about the grid in relation to summer heat demand, not winterizing the grid.  Two very separate issues.
 
6 days ago  
California! You farking hellhole....can't even keep the electricity on! Everyone should move to Texas! Freedom!

Wait....It is Texas with electricity problems? Well, shiat.
 
6 days ago  

Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?


Do you buy them by the gross?

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6 days ago  

deadromanoff: skybird659: Soooo, Ted's daughters want daddy to take them-back to Canada for the summer?

For abortions?


Mexico for abortions.  Canada for electricity.
 
6 days ago  

Sleeper_agent: Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?

My brother leaves his fuse box OPEN. There's a reason it has a lid and is made of non flammable metal. He's an architect, he should know better.


My mother bought a house and when I saw some of the wiring I freaked.  I'm not an electrician but even I know that exterior junction boxes have the wires enter from the bottom, so rain drips off of the wire below the box instead of following the wire into the box if the wire entered from the top.  So I had an electrician take care of that and look at the rest of the wiring and he found a lot of code violations that the pre-sale inspection definitely should have caught.  The new electrician fixed everything and the old owner paid for it ( really!) and from what I understand the inspector is in a world of shiat.  Happy ending, I did not expect that.
 
6 days ago  

wildcardjack: My last apartment had a bad AC unit, so I got used to sleeping at Texas night conditions. I could get used to an 85°F night again.


I didn't have AC until I was 16 or 17. Hot nights sucked. SLEZE Jr. and SLEZE Jr. Jr. have always known a world where sleep was always comfortable.

I will never go back!
 
6 days ago  

Bslim: Those were Freedom Blackouts!


if they wanted electricity, they would make their own instead of depending on the govt.

/bootstraps
//s
 
6 days ago  

baorao: Luckily Texans are kind, "look out for your neighbor" and "it takes a village" type of people that respect ideas like conservation.


it's all tbe guns.  I mean nobody would get into a shootout over something stupid like food refrigeration.

/s
 
6 days ago  

Eightballjacket: Fart Wrangler: Eightballjacket: Mad-n-FL: What does the Texas power grid and Russia's military incompetence have in common?

/republicans.

Now do California's power grid.

https://news.yahoo.com/rolling-blackouts-california-prepares-energy-061929922.html

Remember when all those people froze to death in California due to blackouts?

The posted article is about the grid in relation to summer heat demand, not winterizing the grid.  Two very separate issues.


BUT WHATABOUT CALIFORNIA??

So the point you were trying to make is that Texas can't keep up with summer demand and they haven't winterized their power grid?
 
6 days ago  

Aussie_As: Texas could have no problems if it utilised solar and wind energy, solar energy particularly is in abundance during the seasons when folks need to run their air-conditioners. But Texas lawmakers hate it, and hold it back. To the extent it has been implemented in Texas that's despite and not thanks to Republican dickwads.

I get why, say, industrial relations policy is politicised - it pits the rights of the working class against the rights of the employers, that's going to be political every day of the week.

But when energy policy gets politicised, that's when you know you're dealing with farkwits. Good luck, Texas.


Texas has a huge amount of wind.  The problem is the wind is slowing down tonight.

It's going fro something like 15GW down to 5GW.  That plus the busted fossil fuel plants.
 
6 days ago  
Private industry is always the better option, at least when you want to see Texans suffer.
 
6 days ago  

sleze: wildcardjack: My last apartment had a bad AC unit, so I got used to sleeping at Texas night conditions. I could get used to an 85°F night again.

I didn't have AC until I was 16 or 17. Hot nights sucked. SLEZE Jr. and SLEZE Jr. Jr. have always known a world where sleep was always comfortable.

I will never go back!


Notice how the green energy nitwits never mention what will happen if we abandon fossil fuels, and then use up all the sunlight and wind?

Yup. Everyone will be sweltering in the dark, with no relief from moving air.

Study it out
 
6 days ago  

Aquapope: Sleeper_agent: Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?

My brother leaves his fuse box OPEN. There's a reason it has a lid and is made of non flammable metal. He's an architect, he should know better.

My mother bought a house and when I saw some of the wiring I freaked.  I'm not an electrician but even I know that exterior junction boxes have the wires enter from the bottom, so rain drips off of the wire below the box instead of following the wire into the box if the wire entered from the top.  So I had an electrician take care of that and look at the rest of the wiring and he found a lot of code violations that the pre-sale inspection definitely should have caught.  The new electrician fixed everything and the old owner paid for it ( really!) and from what I understand the inspector is in a world of shiat.  Happy ending, I did not expect that.


Yeah, DIY electrical is one of those things that frequently present, frequently missed, and always an issue. My sister and BiL nearly lost their mortgage because their insurer dropped them after discovering what the previous owner had done (again, missed by the inspector), and since the original install was pretty old they couldn't get anyone to repair it and had to rip it all out and replace it, though it's undoubtedly safer that way.
 
6 days ago  

Sleeper_agent: Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?

My brother leaves his fuse box OPEN. There's a reason it has a lid and is made of non flammable metal. He's an architect, he should know better.


Does he use regular pennies or ass pennies?
 
6 days ago  

Aussie_As: Texas could have no problems if it utilised solar and wind energy, solar energy particularly is in abundance during the seasons when folks need to run their air-conditioners. But Texas lawmakers hate it, and hold it back. To the extent it has been implemented in Texas that's despite and not thanks to Republican dickwads.

I get why, say, industrial relations policy is politicised - it pits the rights of the working class against the rights of the employers, that's going to be political every day of the week.

But when energy policy gets politicised, that's when you know you're dealing with farkwits. Good luck, Texas.


20% of Texas's energy is wind. They just don't publicize it because they won't wanna be called woke.  Solar is only 1% but tons of houses -- at least in the Houston area -- have solar on their roofs.

https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/fiscal-notes/2020/august/ercot.php#:~:text=Generation%2C%20Demand%20and%20Capacity,as%20renewable%20resources%2C%20primarily%20wind.
 
6 days ago  

Eightballjacket: Fart Wrangler: Eightballjacket: Mad-n-FL: What does the Texas power grid and Russia's military incompetence have in common?

/republicans.

Now do California's power grid.

https://news.yahoo.com/rolling-blackouts-california-prepares-energy-061929922.html

Remember when all those people froze to death in California due to blackouts?

The posted article is about the grid in relation to summer heat demand, not winterizing the grid.  Two very separate issues.


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TFA: Six power plants in Texas broke down yesterday because of mismanagement under peak demand. The whole state is threatened.

You: California managed their power grid to handle peak demand
 
6 days ago  

Aussie_As: Texas could have no problems if it utilised solar and wind energy, solar energy particularly is in abundance during the seasons when folks need to run their air-conditioners. But Texas lawmakers hate it, and hold it back. To the extent it has been implemented in Texas that's despite and not thanks to Republican dickwads.

I get why, say, industrial relations policy is politicised - it pits the rights of the working class against the rights of the employers, that's going to be political every day of the week.

But when energy policy gets politicised, that's when you know you're dealing with farkwits. Good luck, Texas.


Uh okay

"In the race to build renewable energy projects in 2021, Texas lapped the competition.
The state had 7,352 megawatts of new wind, solar and energy storage projects come online during the year, according to a report issued this weekby the American Clean Power Association, a trade group.
The runner-up, California, brought 2,697 megawatts online."


https://insideclimatenews.org/news/17022022/inside-clean-energy-texas-clean-energy-leader/

California by far leads the way in current production but Texas ranks 5th. But as noted above that ranking should improve.

https://www.globaltrademag.com/states-producing-the-most-solar-energy/
 
6 days ago  

jimjays: Residents are asked not to use large appliances. Air conditioners, refrigerators, electric stoves...

(Mom's marital aid.)


So just like California?

"The single most important change you can make is adjusting the temperature in your house," Borenstein said.
Simply turning up the thermostat in the summer from 75 to 78 degrees and not using major appliances in the late afternoon and early evening are a start.
"Those changes can have a huge effect over the whole system," he explained."

https://www.kcra.com/amp/article/california-prepares-for-energy-shortfalls-in-hot-dry-summer-these-are-the-tools-to-avoid-blackouts/39931543

"State models assume the state will have 1,700 fewer megawatts of power than it needs during the times of highest demand - typically early evening as the sun sets - in the hottest months when air conditioners are in full use."
 
6 days ago  

KCinPA: Aussie_As: Texas could have no problems if it utilised solar and wind energy, solar energy particularly is in abundance during the seasons when folks need to run their air-conditioners. But Texas lawmakers hate it, and hold it back. To the extent it has been implemented in Texas that's despite and not thanks to Republican dickwads.

I get why, say, industrial relations policy is politicised - it pits the rights of the working class against the rights of the employers, that's going to be political every day of the week.

But when energy policy gets politicised, that's when you know you're dealing with farkwits. Good luck, Texas.

Uh okay

"In the race to build renewable energy projects in 2021, Texas lapped the competition.
The state had 7,352 megawatts of new wind, solar and energy storage projects come online during the year, according to a report issued this weekby the American Clean Power Association, a trade group.
The runner-up, California, brought 2,697 megawatts online."


https://insideclimatenews.org/news/17022022/inside-clean-energy-texas-clean-energy-leader/

California by far leads the way in current production but Texas ranks 5th. But as noted above that ranking should improve.

https://www.globaltrademag.com/states-producing-the-most-solar-energy/


So, you are saying it is just the incompetence and stupidity of the common redneck, and not bad intentions?
Okay. Doesn't seem like much to brag about - but, hey - Texas.
 
6 days ago  
Cue some talking-head spouting off about Mexico using illegals to steal electricity from Texas
 
6 days ago  

Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?


There is a modern solution to pennies
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6 days ago  
I'm more than happy to contribute Greg Abbott not being re-elected this fall.  By running my washer and dryer today, and doing whatever the hell I want with my a/c.
 
6 days ago  

Mega Steve: Cue some talking-head spouting off about Mexico using illegals to steal electricity from Texas


It's somehow California's fault.
We failed to educate the stupidest Californians. and they believed lies about low taxes and moved to Texas!
That could make it our fault, if you think about it stupid and twisted enough!
 
6 days ago  

MythDragon: Aquapope: And why is their grid so shiatty?  Because if they tied it into the rest of the US grid it would have to pass certain regulations and that would cost money.  So they claim righteous independent indignation at the idea of regulations but really it's just to be cheap.  They're the guy who jams a penny in the breaker box cuz he's too damn cheap to buy a box of fuses, and then his garage catches fire.

// yeah, yeah, fuses, how old am I?

There is a modern solution to pennies
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Fun fact. These breakers will trip despite the toggle being held into place like that.
 
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