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(The Hill)   Hmm, yes, perplexing... Maybe a disease that attacks almost every organ in the body is neither "jUsT tHe fLu" nor "mild"?   (thehill.com) divider line
    More: Sick, Health care, Infection, Health, long COVID-19, Fatigue, Disease, Experience, Jim Heath  
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1633 clicks; posted to STEM » on 14 May 2022 at 1:25 AM (9 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-05-13 9:48:54 PM  
Personally, I fear the long haul more than the 1-3 weeks of acute illness. Based on my relative health and being under 50, as well as having four shots in me, I doubt the acute illness will do me in. But I'd rather not live a lifetime with long haulers.
 
2022-05-13 10:08:56 PM  
Take vitamin D everyone

It's not magic but anything to help protect your cardiovascular system in a cheap and easy way is worth taking seriously.
 
2022-05-13 10:14:15 PM  
Ill effects from the condition can include fatigue, pain, neurological issues and even changes in mental health.

I already have fatigue, pain, neurological issues and mental health issues, so I probably wouldn't even notice....but I don't want to risk it. It might get twice as bad.
 
2022-05-13 10:37:45 PM  
Almost every organ in the body, but fortunately not the liver. That's clearly adenovirus (even though we can't find any in a biopsy, and adenoviruses don't usually do that). So maybe it's some other mystery virus. Can't be SARS-CoV-2 though, because that would imply that we should have been protecting little kids from it instead of encouraging them to infect each other naturally. That would be politically inconvenient.
 
2022-05-14 12:41:47 AM  
And you people expect me to trust an experimental vaccine?  To deliberately introduce that into my body?  My children's bodies?  I say neigh, good sir. Not on my watch.
 
2022-05-14 1:50:38 AM  
This idiot kid was sitting, coughing and wiping his nose with his hands, while momma picked up a bottle which looked like prescription cough syrup.  An identical bottle was going out the drive through window.

I covered my mouth and nose, but FFS leave the kid in the car with the windows completely down.  Or have him wait outside of the line where people with health problems tend to congregate.  I don't want your cold, sure don't want your flu, and if it's COVID I'd rather just punch you unconscious.
 
2022-05-14 1:56:52 AM  
Do we even have a solid classification for this thing yet or is it still too weird to fit into any of the normal disease categories?
 
2022-05-14 2:06:14 AM  

foo monkey: And you people expect me to trust an experimental vaccine?  To deliberately introduce that into my body?  My children's bodies?  I say neigh, good sir. Not on my watch.


Sounds like you don't have a horse in this race.
 
2022-05-14 2:39:06 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Almost every organ in the body, but fortunately not the liver. That's clearly adenovirus (even though we can't find any in a biopsy, and adenoviruses don't usually do that). So maybe it's some other mystery virus. Can't be SARS-CoV-2 though, because that would imply that we should have been protecting little kids from it instead of encouraging them to infect each other naturally. That would be politically inconvenient.


The United States and Great Britain are the only two major nations saying that Mystery Hepatitis isn't Covid associated.  Everyone else is correctly identifying it as Covid associated.  The denials from the UK are laughably galling as 20% of their cases were PCR positive.
 
2022-05-14 2:40:08 AM  
Now we know one coronavirus can do these things, maybe we should look in the past and see if maybe old idiopathic diseases have a similar cause. And going forward, annual cold and flu jabs might cure or curb other diseases.
 
2022-05-14 2:48:16 AM  
Somebody already touched on this more elegantly, but this exact stuff is why antivaxxers and "natural immunity" people amaze me.

There's a weird virus that has mutated into dozens of variants across hundreds of millions of people and has mountains of research showing weird long term-effects. It ejaculates RNA into every cell it can all over your body willy-nilly, and that's somehow fine. It's "just the flu."

But. A vaccine scares them because it involves squirting some mRNA into one's arm 😐
 
2022-05-14 3:22:12 AM  
Long covid prevalence is all over the map! Also different people have different definitions of long covid!  And, well prevalence is lower if you use a longer definition of covid and higher if you use a shorter definition.Well gee.


/thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic
 
2022-05-14 4:54:28 AM  

Likwit: Somebody already touched on this more elegantly, but this exact stuff is why antivaxxers and "natural immunity" people amaze me.

There's a weird virus that has mutated into dozens of variants across hundreds of millions of people and has mountains of research showing weird long term-effects. It ejaculates RNA into every cell it can all over your body willy-nilly, and that's somehow fine. It's "just the flu."

But. A vaccine scares them because it involves squirting some mRNA into one's arm 😐


Because conservatives have successfully demonized intelligence, critical thinking, and science. That's by design, of course. Can't have the plebes capable of seeing through your BS, after all.

It's pointless to even try reasoning with them. They simply aren't capable or equipped to understand how and why they're wrong. And even if they could somehow figure that out, their pride would never allow them to admit they're wrong. Plus, they'd be completely shunned by the other MAGAts for breaking ranks.

TLDR - They're all in on being deplorable. They have to be; otherwise, they'd have to admit they're wrong and spent their lives dedicated to falsehoods. Their ego simply cannot handle that.
 
2022-05-14 4:57:07 AM  
Ill effects from the condition can include fatigue, pain, neurological issues and even changes in mental health

We've heard this about every otherwise harmless virus from Lyme to herpes simplex virus type 1.

Viruses fark with us in ways we still don't understand. Best to avoid them, or else give yourself up for dead.
 
2022-05-14 6:37:59 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Take vitamin D everyone

It's not magic but anything to help protect your cardiovascular system in a cheap and easy way is worth taking seriously.


So more sunlight? Make sure you open your "fourth eye" so it gets inside you to disinfect.


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/I kid
//Sunlight is good for you
///Doubt your fourth eye needs it
 
2022-05-14 6:50:39 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: So more sunlight? Make sure you open your "fourth eye" so it gets inside you to disinfect.


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/I kid
//Sunlight is good for you
///Doubt your fourth eye needs it


"We call this, 'Chocolate Starfish pose'. Very effective against covid!"
 
2022-05-14 7:31:20 AM  
I believe it.  Covid farked my stomach up, had basically no other symptoms, but I could not keep anything inside of me.  If I managed to it was exploding our the other end within an hour or two.

That was January.  I'm still having stomach issues.  It has definitely gotten better over time, but I still wake up at least once a week with vomiting or diarrhea.  I get weird muscle cramps too, so I'm guessing it's impacting my ability to take up nutrients.

Super glad I had the vaccine when I caught it, I can't imagine how awful it would've been without.  I probably would've been hospitalized for dehydration.
 
2022-05-14 7:38:54 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Take vitamin D everyone

It's not magic but anything to help protect your cardiovascular system in a cheap and easy way is worth taking seriously.


I was already doing this before the pandemic on doctor's advice.

With regard to COVID, though, have they actually confirmed the relationship?  Because the old 'correlation is not causation' thingy could be in play if there is some underlying reason people might have elevated vitamin D levels and resist COVID better.  Simply taking vitamin D might not help against COVID at all.

Having said that - vitamin D is extremely inexpensive.  Unless you're working outdoors shirtless every day, it's probably not a bad investment to take your 800 IU / day.
 
2022-05-14 8:00:05 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Take vitamin D everyone

It's not magic but anything to help protect your cardiovascular system in a cheap and easy way is worth taking seriously.


My doctor has been emphasizing the importance of a healthy vitamin D level for many many years.  He gives it almost as much focus as cholesterol.

If you need pills to maintain a long term healthy level do it.  Binging when you get the sniffles won't help.
 
2022-05-14 8:32:25 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Almost every organ in the body, but fortunately not the liver. That's clearly adenovirus (even though we can't find any in a biopsy, and adenoviruses don't usually do that). So maybe it's some other mystery virus. Can't be SARS-CoV-2 though, because that would imply that we should have been protecting little kids from it instead of encouraging them to infect each other naturally. That would be politically inconvenient.


Why? Once they are born, who cares?

/s/s/s/s/s/s/s
 
2022-05-14 8:38:57 AM  

aerojockey: Long covid prevalence is all over the map! Also different people have different definitions of long covid!  And, well prevalence is lower if you use a longer definition of covid and higher if you use a shorter definition.Well gee.


/thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic


Formerly healthy friends and coworkers affected by long covid leads me to conclude you can GFY :)
 
2022-05-14 8:48:49 AM  

aerojockey: /thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic


Did you ever get Covid?
I did, and had bad symptoms. Know how intense body aches, fatigue, and confusion were common symptoms? Now try imagining that coming and going, nonstop...for MONTHS. Body aches so bad you want to crawl out of your skin. Fatigue so overwhelming you can barely lift your arms. Confusion to the point that merely scrolling through a webpage causes migraine-like pain.
This is/was my long haul...15 months of it, and I still have it, but the intensity and duration seem to have lessened.

It's HORRIBLE...and those are just the symptoms I'm listing off and am aware of. My real fear is what this has done, and is doing, to my vascular and neuro systems.
 
2022-05-14 9:55:16 AM  
But, I am a middle aged, slightly educated white man who has gotten everything he has ever asked for in his lazy, fat, privileged life, and I want this to be over.
So, it's over.
That's all.
 
2022-05-14 9:56:25 AM  

aerojockey: Long covid prevalence is all over the map! Also different people have different definitions of long covid!  And, well prevalence is lower if you use a longer definition of covid and higher if you use a shorter definition.Well gee.


/thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic


You know what else is "psychosomatic"?
Being an asshole.
 
2022-05-14 10:23:19 AM  
I CTFL.  They open with a video of Dr. Birx.  I don't know what she's saying, I didn't want to turn the sound on and endanger my own life.
 
2022-05-14 10:24:41 AM  

aerojockey: Long covid prevalence is all over the map! Also different people have different definitions of long covid!  And, well prevalence is lower if you use a longer definition of covid and higher if you use a shorter definition.Well gee.


/thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic


They're faking diabetes?

OK then.
 
2022-05-14 11:55:59 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Personally, I fear the long haul more than the 1-3 weeks of acute illness. Based on my relative health and being under 50, as well as having four shots in me, I doubt the acute illness will do me in. But I'd rather not live a lifetime with long haulers.


Here's the deal with me...

I'm starting from a different position than most, but things have changed since last year. Last year, I finished chemo, and I'm still dealing with some fallout from that, most notably neuropathy in my feet. I did some bike riding last summer and seemed fine. But in January, we all traded Covid back and forth in the house. Nobody was down for a long time, and nobody even called a doctor. But now, the one time I tried to go on a ride, I ended up whooping like an emergency siren and had to stop for breath like 4 times in a 5 mile ride.

It could be the chemo/cancer thing, but I didn't have this issue last summer, so I'm afraid that I have shortness of breath as a long haul Covid symptom, which is really gonna suck. I'm going to have to try a few more rides to see if it persists, or if it's just part of getting back into shape now that I gained my weight back. Who farking knows? I'm not even sure if it can be conclusively proven to be Covid, since chemo farks up so much shiat...
 
2022-05-14 12:57:12 PM  
As anyone on Facebook can tell you.

-The media lies and you have to go to Infowarz to get the real info
-The Government is forcing you to take microchips in an experiment vaxxine to make children sterile
-Planes don't have exhaust, they produce chemtrails that are mind control drugs to make you into Homosexual Lefists.
-The Great Reset to kill off the family unit
-As always dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh !¡
 
2022-05-14 1:03:17 PM  
Just a friendly reminder that in 1919 'just the flu' killed 3 million Americans. We are lucky it wasn't just the flu.
 
2022-05-14 1:48:23 PM  

AlgaeRancher: Take vitamin D everyone

It's not magic but anything to help protect your cardiovascular system in a cheap and easy way is worth taking seriously.


A very great many people are already vitamin-D deficient, so this is generally good advice.
 
2022-05-14 1:56:22 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Personally, I fear the long haul more than the 1-3 weeks of acute illness. Based on my relative health and being under 50, as well as having four shots in me, I doubt the acute illness will do me in. But I'd rather not live a lifetime with long haulers.


This.  I'm confident my immune system would beat it.  Long haul, that's another matter.

backhand.slap.of.reason: The United States and Great Britain are the only two major nations saying that Mystery Hepatitis isn't Covid associated.  Everyone else is correctly identifying it as Covid associated.  The denials from the UK are laughably galling as 20% of their cases were PCR positive.


Huh?  What I've seen is that it definitely isn't Covid-vax related as most were unvaccinated.

Likwit: Somebody already touched on this more elegantly, but this exact stuff is why antivaxxers and "natural immunity" people amaze me.


And note the recent focus on original sin--yes, the vaccine causes it.  That's probably why the Omicron-specific boosters failed (too close to the original, the body reused the original antibodies rather than making a  new design.)  However, the virus also causes it!  They finally find something that isn't pure quackery and ignore the inconvenient parts.

aerojockey: Long covid prevalence is all over the map! Also different people have different definitions of long covid!  And, well prevalence is lower if you use a longer definition of covid and higher if you use a shorter definition.Well gee.


/thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic


I see no reason to think that.  The problem is the virus farks with the whole body, why should it be surprising that the aftereffects also fark with the whole body?

Adam was in a car accident and broke his left leg.  Bob was in a car accident and broke his right leg.  Charlie was in a car accident and broke his left arm.  David was in a car accident and broke his right arm.  Obviously, since they all had different symptoms there's no way the car accidents were relevant.
 
2022-05-14 2:04:52 PM  

fastfxr: aerojockey: /thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic

Did you ever get Covid?
I did, and had bad symptoms. Know how intense body aches, fatigue, and confusion were common symptoms? Now try imagining that coming and going, nonstop...for MONTHS. Body aches so bad you want to crawl out of your skin. Fatigue so overwhelming you can barely lift your arms. Confusion to the point that merely scrolling through a webpage causes migraine-like pain.
This is/was my long haul...15 months of it, and I still have it, but the intensity and duration seem to have lessened.

It's HORRIBLE...and those are just the symptoms I'm listing off and am aware of. My real fear is what this has done, and is doing, to my vascular and neuro systems.


Oof that SUCKS, I'm really sorry. Stories like yours make me continue to mask up and avoid people because I seriously do not want this, I have enough trouble as it is with fatigue.

Also username does not check out. Hopefully there's a slow fix for you eventually.
 
2022-05-14 3:34:32 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Personally, I fear the long haul more than the 1-3 weeks of acute illness. Based on my relative health and being under 50, as well as having four shots in me, I doubt the acute illness will do me in. But I'd rather not live a lifetime with long haulers.


Can people under 60 get fourth shots now?

If so, Ive got to make an appointment.
 
2022-05-14 4:08:06 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Personally, I fear the long haul more than the 1-3 weeks of acute illness. B

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2022-05-14 5:58:05 PM  
I am not an expert. Also, I am not perplexed. I am, however, amazed that so many mental midgets thought it would be a cool thing to FA&FO
 
2022-05-14 6:14:48 PM  

pehvbot: Just a friendly reminder that in 1919 'just the flu' killed 3 million Americans. We are lucky it wasn't just the flu.


And Polio was a relatively 'mild' disease for the majority of people, but nobody remembers that aspect of it either.

But hey, trying to properly control it early on would have cut into profits and given workers the idea that they're humans rather than disposable tools, so our hands were tied.
 
2022-05-14 6:27:30 PM  

aerojockey: /thinks most, but not all, long covid of it psychosomatic


Hey, do you know what percentage of poliovirus infections progressed to what we actually consider 'polio' when we think about it? (Paralysis, etc)?

0.5%
 
2022-05-15 2:23:32 AM  
Keep on dying you twits. GO GO GO.
 
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