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(CNN)   Patients charged hundreds of dollars to get COVID drugs already paid for by taxpayers. Insurance companies, doctors and hospitals: Oh, we're not charging you for the drug, that's just an administrative fee. Ain't America great?   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-05-13 7:49:29 PM  
Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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For profit healthcare. Is there anything it can't destroy?
 
2022-05-13 9:04:29 PM  
This country will destroy everything.  Don't worry, we're on the fast track.
 
2022-05-13 9:04:30 PM  
We have to keep voting Republican, otherwise the healthcare industry will punish us even more.
 
2022-05-13 9:05:23 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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WTF?
 
2022-05-13 9:05:45 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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Well they gave her a break on the 79 C-sections
 
2022-05-13 9:12:10 PM  
Welcome to Obamacare fall out. Give everyone insurance and watch the providers price gouge.
 
2022-05-13 9:14:38 PM  
If the government wants the administration of a IV drug, and monitoring, to be free, they can always set the price and write the check.
 
2022-05-13 9:18:57 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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According to the hospital that charge is for having to bring in a second nurse to assist with the delivery.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/
 
2022-05-13 9:22:13 PM  
It's really too bad our entire medical system didn't collapse and the entirety of the grifters and profiteers didn't have their skulls stacked up outside the city walls as they went up around American cities.

But nobody ever tries MY apocalypses.  It's always some half-arsed BS where the money keeps rolling in.

Pro tip: medical staff are making ridiculous amounts of money now.  Their pay went up about the same percentage as your gas prices.

My degrees in physics aren't going to up my pay for shiat. Might as well break out my associates degree in history or the other one in art.  At least they're good for toilet paper when the end comes.
 
2022-05-13 9:22:33 PM  

Obscene_CNN: Welcome to Obamacare fall out. Give everyone insurance and watch the providers price gouge.


Good one, MTG.
 
2022-05-13 9:23:15 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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Hospitals have encouraged immediate skin-to-skin after vaginal deliveries longer than they have offered it after C-sections. Doing it while the mother lies cut open on the operating table requires an extra labor and delivery nurse on hand to ensure the immobilized and often drugged-up patient doesn't accidentally drop the baby onto the floor or smother him or her among the surgical drapes. It sounds silly, perhaps, but it's a valid precaution.

The point of the extra nurse in the room is to help the parents perform this bonding act in a situation wherein it would normally never be allowed. Remember, this is the operating room: a sterile zone for performing surgery. Skin-to-skin under anesthesia is pretty groundbreaking

 
2022-05-13 9:24:33 PM  
The idea of America is great. It's people that suck.
 
2022-05-13 9:26:18 PM  
Also US: Walk into any drugstore, go to the pharmacy, show your health-insurance card and they'll give you a bunch of free COVID home tests for free.  Eight, I think?  Because the Biden administration has required insurance companies to either pay for them or reimburse you for them.

But... walking into the drugstore there will be a big friendly sign on the door stating that COVID home tests are available at the front counter.  Probably $13 for a box of two.  Because the Biden administration didn't require insurance companies or drugstores to tell you that you could get them for free.
 
2022-05-13 9:27:56 PM  

Mock26: Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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According to the hospital that charge is for having to bring in a second nurse to assist with the delivery.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/


Good catch, and good information.
 
2022-05-13 9:28:59 PM  
13 posts in, and everything is this administration's fault.  Oh, and Obama's as well.  obviously.
 
2022-05-13 9:35:12 PM  
Sounds par for the course
My favorite is the billing for a small waxed paper cup with a pill in it being categorized as an accessory medical device at $5-60 a pop just because they can get away with this ludicrously fraudulent behavior. American healthcare financial accountability is the absolute worst in the world
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2022-05-13 9:36:40 PM  

aungen: It's really too bad our entire medical system didn't collapse and the entirety of the grifters and profiteers didn't have their skulls stacked up outside the city walls as they went up around American cities.

But nobody ever tries MY apocalypses.  It's always some half-arsed BS where the money keeps rolling in.

Pro tip: medical staff are making ridiculous amounts of money now.  Their pay went up about the same percentage as your gas prices.

My degrees in physics aren't going to up my pay for shiat. Might as well break out my associates degree in history or the other one in art.  At least they're good for toilet paper when the end comes.


When the end comes who's gonna bother with toilet paper?
 
2022-05-13 9:40:56 PM  
A bunch of testing places and insurance companies are suing eachother right now for inconsistent and shady Covid test practices. I experienced a couple of the scammy ones (in fact I couldn't find any that *weren't* scammy). First test site I tried got shut down by the state, 2nd one was some weird private clinic that looked like they preserve the heads of cult leaders on the side, and the third place (that actually had tests available) was a guy in a golf cart in a parking lot. Golf cart place double billed insurance and I'm still not sure if or how much I'll be asked to pay.
 
2022-05-13 9:44:35 PM  

alex10294: If the government wants the administration of a IV drug, and monitoring, to be free, they can always set the price and write the check.


Wrong.

EVUSHELD will be given to you by your healthcare provider as 2 intramuscular injections, given one after the other.

It's two IM injections.  I've been giving myself IM injections twice a week for years now, it literally took less than five minutes for the nurse to explain it to me and watch me do my first.
 
2022-05-13 9:46:40 PM  

Obscene_CNN: Welcome to Obamacare fall out. Give everyone insurance and watch the providers price gouge.


This may sound surprising, but the for-profit healthcare industry has been price gouging Americans long, LONGGGGGG before Obama lol.
 
2022-05-13 9:46:52 PM  
Meanwhile, the government is working on rationing COVID vaccines, and telling municipalities to spend their unspent chunks of COVID relief on cops.

They see the collapse coming, and rather than trying to prevent it, they're gearing up to triple down on the police state.
 
2022-05-13 9:54:24 PM  

Mock26: Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

[Fark user image 630x354]

For profit healthcare. Is there anything it can't destroy?

According to the hospital that charge is for having to bring in a second nurse to assist with the delivery.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/


Irrelevant
 
2022-05-13 10:02:19 PM  

Obscene_CNN: Welcome to Obamacare fall out. Give everyone insurance and watch the providers price gouge.


..... Thanks Obama!

You're literally a farking meme.

CSB: I was once employed by Nucor Steel, their rebar division.

We had an out of state twat from corporate come talk about insurance benefits. As we were done I was for some reason talking to a magat about the ACA = Obama care.

That twat happened to be walking by so he asked the expert. She suddenly glared at me like a rabid fox and briefly barked that I be was in incorrect.

'Merica, where idiots that exclusively do insurance have no idea what they're talking about.

I could get these morons to agree that the ACA has some overdue and great changes.... But Obamacare?! RAAAAH.
 
2022-05-13 10:03:21 PM  
Phone is always throwing extra "be"s in.

Sigh.
 
2022-05-13 10:13:51 PM  
I have been saying for many years that we have been heading towards a time when it would be the rich against the peasants again. Unfortunately, I think we have arrived!
 
2022-05-13 10:27:27 PM  
HHS regulations forbid hospitals, clinics, or any other providers from charging patients for Covid-19 vaccinations; they can't charge for the vaccines themselves or for administering them. But HHS regulations do allow providers to charge an administrative fee for giving Evusheld, and there is no limit on the size of that fee.

"The fee is.....one BILLION dollars. MUHAHAHAHAHA"
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2022-05-13 10:45:19 PM  

aungen: It's really too bad our entire medical system didn't collapse and the entirety of the grifters and profiteers didn't have their skulls stacked up outside the city walls as they went up around American cities.

But nobody ever tries MY apocalypses.  It's always some half-arsed BS where the money keeps rolling in.

Pro tip: medical staff are making ridiculous amounts of money now.  Their pay went up about the same percentage as your gas prices.

My degrees in physics aren't going to up my pay for shiat. Might as well break out my associates degree in history or the other one in art.  At least they're good for toilet paper when the end comes.


Take all those degrees and get an Amazon Certified Machine Learning - Specialty. Or look at something similar. If you have a degree in physics it shouldn't be too hard to shortcut it. Might take six months. You'll pick up the basics of machine learning and AI at the same time.

If you haven't been arrested for dealing meth while blowing people for meth money in rest areas in the past six months, you'll make six figures in your first job. Even if you admit you have no experience during your job interview. That's your learnin' job. You won't be good at it. At first. Use it to figure out the details about how you become a good ML/AI programmer and/or engineer. It will probably be easier than you think, because most people are stupider than they let on. Once you actually get hired and see what goes on behind the scenes, it starts to look pretty simple to anyone can read and is capable of using Google.

Once you figure out the ropes, you can move on to your first real job, which will pay more. Spend a year with that figuring out how to work your own education experience into AI, then move into your real payday: whatever you want to do next, because your history and art degrees may become valuable at that point. Maybe you can write a program that tracks art theft. Maybe you can write a program that values art sales. Who knows?

Seriously, people are just throwing farking money hand over fist into AI right now, and will for the next ten years. Get yourself into that market, by hook or by crook, and wing it. You can do it.
 
2022-05-13 10:48:15 PM  

Obscene_CNN: Welcome to Obamacare fall out. Give everyone insurance and watch the providers price gouge.


Gouging by the health care industry happened long before Obama became president.  It was that gouging that drove the push to pass Obamacare.
 
2022-05-13 10:57:04 PM  

Mock26: Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

[Fark user image 630x354]

For profit healthcare. Is there anything it can't destroy?

According to the hospital that charge is for having to bring in a second nurse to assist with the delivery.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/


Still doesn't address why it isn't included in the thousands charged for c-section. Like, this nickel and dime bs is a part of the problem, even if a second nurse is needed.

fark, too bad this happened in a developing nation.
 
2022-05-13 11:07:34 PM  
Well this is fark where "paid by taxpayers" equals free
 
2022-05-13 11:18:09 PM  
This is why I'm still a communist.

(well I'm not exactly a communist, but close enough).

People helping people-- It's so anti-American.
 
2022-05-13 11:33:04 PM  
Let's ask senator Rick Scott, former HCA hospital CEO, about price gouging.

/ he's an expert!
 
2022-05-13 11:37:17 PM  

Sleeper_agent: This is why I'm still a communist.

(well I'm not exactly a communist, but close enough).

People helping people-- It's so anti-American.


Americans love to help people.  They just want to help people they personally think need help.

It's prejudice.  Or Bigotry?
But. Yeah.  This Ukraine thing proves Americans love to help people.  But. Only people they can like or relate to or people  they find worthy of their stolen wealth.
 
2022-05-14 1:15:49 AM  
If a hospital or doctors office is double charging for covid vaccines, Biden needs to send the military in to liberate the hospitals from whatever maga or ultra maga is holding them hostage.  If none can be found, nuke the hospital.  It has been infected by some sort of etherial or phase shifting maga.

Problem solved.
 
2022-05-14 1:20:22 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: If a hospital or doctors office is double charging for covid vaccines, Biden needs to send the military in to liberate the hospitals from whatever maga or ultra maga is holding them hostage.  If none can be found, nuke the hospital.  It has been infected by some sort of etherial or phase shifting maga.

Problem solved.


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2022-05-14 1:22:22 AM  

Mock26: According to the hospital that charge is for having to bring in a second nurse to assist with the delivery.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/


Yeah.  People see the apparent nonsense and don't realize that there is professional time being used to provide the service.

Hundreds of dollars for a couple of shots sounds like the Covid overcharging we have been seeing due to a lack of negotiated rates, though.
 
2022-05-14 2:04:59 AM  

dbirchall: Also US: Walk into any drugstore, go to the pharmacy, show your health-insurance card and they'll give you a bunch of free COVID home tests for free.  Eight, I think?  Because the Biden administration has required insurance companies to either pay for them or reimburse you for them.

But... walking into the drugstore there will be a big friendly sign on the door stating that COVID home tests are available at the front counter.  Probably $13 for a box of two.  Because the Biden administration didn't require insurance companies or drugstores to tell you that you could get them for free.


They did- there were mailers from the USPS and a giant banner in the usps website they they were the distribution point, along with print/internet news and radio. For the few weeks after it took effect it was all over.
 
2022-05-14 3:21:53 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Of course they do. This hospital charged a mother $39.95 for the privilege of holding her own newborn baby. In addition to the already astronomical cost of giving birth in a hospital.

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This is why hospitals should advertise their services. That way when you are in life or death situations, you can spend 2 hours gpibg down a checklist of services you actually want rendered. With luck, you will live to get through it.
 
2022-05-14 4:30:54 AM  
I get it. My husband retired from New York City school system six years ago. We have GHI insurance. We had been having trouble with it for well over a year now. Now they told us that we must also get Medicare. They are forcing us to have two insurers. How is this even legal? I just don't get how they get away with this. I'm waiting for some bean counter from the company to come and say sorry you are costing us too much money. Take this black pill please. You will be dead in ten minutes. Thank you for choosing our company to help you.
 
2022-05-14 10:22:11 AM  

Lsherm: aungen: It's really too bad our entire medical system didn't collapse and the entirety of the grifters and profiteers didn't have their skulls stacked up outside the city walls as they went up around American cities.

But nobody ever tries MY apocalypses.  It's always some half-arsed BS where the money keeps rolling in.

Pro tip: medical staff are making ridiculous amounts of money now.  Their pay went up about the same percentage as your gas prices.

My degrees in physics aren't going to up my pay for shiat. Might as well break out my associates degree in history or the other one in art.  At least they're good for toilet paper when the end comes.

Take all those degrees and get an Amazon Certified Machine Learning - Specialty. Or look at something similar. If you have a degree in physics it shouldn't be too hard to shortcut it. Might take six months. You'll pick up the basics of machine learning and AI at the same time.

If you haven't been arrested for dealing meth while blowing people for meth money in rest areas in the past six months, you'll make six figures in your first job. Even if you admit you have no experience during your job interview. That's your learnin' job. You won't be good at it. At first. Use it to figure out the details about how you become a good ML/AI programmer and/or engineer. It will probably be easier than you think, because most people are stupider than they let on. Once you actually get hired and see what goes on behind the scenes, it starts to look pretty simple to anyone can read and is capable of using Google.

Once you figure out the ropes, you can move on to your first real job, which will pay more. Spend a year with that figuring out how to work your own education experience into AI, then move into your real payday: whatever you want to do next, because your history and art degrees may become valuable at that point. Maybe you can write a program that tracks art theft. Maybe you can write a program that values art sales. Who knows?
...


That section in bold disqualifies me, AGAIN.
When will this habit stop haunting me?!
 
2022-05-14 11:02:01 AM  

Alathea: dbirchall: Also US: Walk into any drugstore, go to the pharmacy, show your health-insurance card and they'll give you a bunch of free COVID home tests for free.  Eight, I think?  Because the Biden administration has required insurance companies to either pay for them or reimburse you for them.

But... walking into the drugstore there will be a big friendly sign on the door stating that COVID home tests are available at the front counter.  Probably $13 for a box of two.  Because the Biden administration didn't require insurance companies or drugstores to tell you that you could get them for free.

They did- there were mailers from the USPS and a giant banner in the usps website they they were the distribution point, along with print/internet news and radio. For the few weeks after it took effect it was all over.


That was the free tests by mail thing -- entirely different program than what I'm talking about.  (Which is why my comment said nothing at all about the USPS.)
 
2022-05-14 11:36:12 AM  

dbirchall: Alathea: dbirchall: Also US: Walk into any drugstore, go to the pharmacy, show your health-insurance card and they'll give you a bunch of free COVID home tests for free.  Eight, I think?  Because the Biden administration has required insurance companies to either pay for them or reimburse you for them.

But... walking into the drugstore there will be a big friendly sign on the door stating that COVID home tests are available at the front counter.  Probably $13 for a box of two.  Because the Biden administration didn't require insurance companies or drugstores to tell you that you could get them for free.

They did- there were mailers from the USPS and a giant banner in the usps website they they were the distribution point, along with print/internet news and radio. For the few weeks after it took effect it was all over.

That was the free tests by mail thing -- entirely different program than what I'm talking about.  (Which is why my comment said nothing at all about the USPS.)


It was both- the information out mentioned more than one way to get free testing.

https://www.cms.gov/how-to-get-your-at-home-OTC-COVID-19-test-for-free
 
2022-05-14 11:37:12 AM  

Alathea: dbirchall: Alathea: dbirchall: Also US: Walk into any drugstore, go to the pharmacy, show your health-insurance card and they'll give you a bunch of free COVID home tests for free.  Eight, I think?  Because the Biden administration has required insurance companies to either pay for them or reimburse you for them.

But... walking into the drugstore there will be a big friendly sign on the door stating that COVID home tests are available at the front counter.  Probably $13 for a box of two.  Because the Biden administration didn't require insurance companies or drugstores to tell you that you could get them for free.

They did- there were mailers from the USPS and a giant banner in the usps website they they were the distribution point, along with print/internet news and radio. For the few weeks after it took effect it was all over.

That was the free tests by mail thing -- entirely different program than what I'm talking about.  (Which is why my comment said nothing at all about the USPS.)

It was both- the information out mentioned more than one way to get free testing.

https://www.cms.gov/how-to-get-your-at-home-OTC-COVID-19-test-for-free


Also- https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/04/04/covid-tests-medicare-pharmacies-free/7265479001/
 
2022-05-14 10:16:55 PM  

fullyautomatic: Obscene_CNN: Welcome to Obamacare fall out. Give everyone insurance and watch the providers price gouge.

This may sound surprising, but the for-profit healthcare industry has been price gouging Americans long, LONGGGGGG before Obama lol.


Since Nixon signed the HMO act.

Birth of The HMO
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2022-05-15 4:50:15 AM  

alex10294: If the government wants the administration of a IV drug, and monitoring, to be free, they can always set the price and write the check.


They could. In fact, they could apply that to other procedures. And maybe recoup some of the costs by charging middle and high-income earners a bit of extra tax, say, 1.5 percent. They could even make up a catchy name for it like, I don't know, Medicare, just plucking that out of the air.

That's the kind of thing they do in all the normal countries like Australia :)
 
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