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(IMDB)   Farker just started watching Star Trek DS9. Which episodes should I skip? Already know enough to bypass Move Along Home and ration Garak episodes so they last longer   (imdb.com) divider line
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2022-05-13 4:59:56 PM  
If you just started then watch them all.  When you come to "Rocks and Shoals" and "In the Pale Moonlight", make sure you absolutely will not be disturbed.
 
2022-05-13 5:38:35 PM  
Don't skip any of them.
 
2022-05-13 5:50:46 PM  
Skip at least the first two seasons. Things don't get interesting until the Dominion show up.

Sisko seems only vaguely interested in being commander during the first two seasons.
 
2022-05-13 5:54:57 PM  
While it's not Babylon 5, where they manage to put super important overarching plot information into even the worst episodes, I wouldn't skip anything.
 
2022-05-13 5:56:42 PM  
That's funny.

I know of another Farker that's doing the same thing.
 
2022-05-13 5:59:08 PM  
3x22 "Explorers"

BUTT! Only the last 2 minutes.
 
2022-05-13 6:05:24 PM  
Off the top of my head, avoid "Let He Who Is Without Sin" and "Profit And Lace".
 
2022-05-13 6:05:48 PM  
Move Along Home is pretty much the only episode to 'safely' skip. Everything else is very intertwined. While Shostie is correct that things really get kicked into high gear in Season 3, there's still lots of important setting and plot establishing details at the start. And characters like Berial and Wynn who play pretty big roles later on.
 
2022-05-13 6:09:43 PM  
Just watch the whole thing, damn.
 
2022-05-13 6:13:14 PM  
On first watch, you might as well suffer, as most episodes have something happening in them.

On second watch, skip any episode centered around the Grand Nagus, Quark's mom, or cross dressing.
 
2022-05-13 6:15:06 PM  
I say watch seasons 1 and 2 last. Treat them like the Star Wars Prequels or the Extended Universe character back stories.
 
2022-05-13 6:16:03 PM  
I noticed this becoming a thing on Reddit. People asking what comics they should read.

It's always baffled me. "You should read the comics you enjoy."

Some aspects of DS9 become very noticeably weaker toward the end of the series. It needs a serious polish on its CGI. But it's a good run overall.
 
2022-05-13 6:16:24 PM  
You want to drop into it, after "The Emissary", skip to the start of the 4th season with Worf.
 
2022-05-13 6:17:51 PM  
Add another vote for "Just watch 'em all, ya mook."

As someone wise or from the future might have said, you can't appreciate the gems if you don't roll around in the dirt now and then.

Though they might have been talking about actual gemstones.
 
2022-05-13 6:19:30 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: On first watch, you might as well suffer, as most episodes have something happening in them.

On second watch, skip any episode centered around the Grand Nagus, Quark's mom, or cross dressing.


Except for "Family Business"
 
2022-05-13 6:19:54 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: I say watch seasons 1 and 2 last. Treat them like the Star Wars Prequels or the Extended Universe character back stories.


Difficulty: Duet is an amazing piece of writing that stands next to a lot of WWII scripts/stories I've read.  So I'm glad I watched that one.  And The Wire is basically 'what if fanfic but canon?'

After a little dipping and diving, I'm trying to do this 'for real' and I'm realizing it was the pilot that put me off the other times I tried.  It's... a lot.  Sisko's more stage-friendly acting style just kept bumping me.  Still setting up a lot of good future conflicts/dynamics, though.

(I already have you farkied as "Loves DS9" by the way.)
 
2022-05-13 6:21:08 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Off the top of my head, avoid "Let He Who Is Without Sin" and "Profit And Lace".


Never skip a ferengi episode. Those ended up being some of my favs. Not as much as Garak...
 
2022-05-13 6:22:18 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: On first watch, you might as well suffer, as most episodes have something happening in them.

On second watch, skip any episode centered around the Grand Nagus, Quark's mom, or cross dressing.


I don't think any Princess Bride fan should skip a Grand Nagus episode
 
2022-05-13 6:24:28 PM  
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2022-05-13 6:24:43 PM  

guinsu: AppleOptionEsc: On first watch, you might as well suffer, as most episodes have something happening in them.

On second watch, skip any episode centered around the Grand Nagus, Quark's mom, or cross dressing.

I don't think any Princess Bride fan should skip a Grand Nagus episode


Thanks a lot. I'm not going to get that laugh or his demands for more beetle snuff out of my head now.

/Spot on about not skipping any Grand Nagus episode however
 
2022-05-13 6:24:46 PM  
Do the episodes still look like shiate upscaled on a modern TV?
 
2022-05-13 6:24:49 PM  
Go through it all, skipping should come after the first watch through. A lot of the earlier ones are cheesy, but they establish plot points.
 
2022-05-13 6:25:40 PM  

Kris_Romm: Do the episodes still look like shiate upscaled on a modern TV?


I think they've cleaned them up, at least on paramount plus they look good. Been watching a few recently as I traveled.
 
2022-05-13 6:27:33 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: I noticed this becoming a thing on Reddit. People asking what comics they should read.

It's always baffled me. "You should read the comics you enjoy."

Some aspects of DS9 become very noticeably weaker toward the end of the series. It needs a serious polish on its CGI. But it's a good run overall.


I liken asking for comic suggestions importance to what happened when John B got the part as Punisher in the Netflix series.

So there was a facebook meme/story with Jon B. talking about going into a comic store and buying Punisher comics and being told "not to read these, to read these instead and not to mess it up?" That comic book store worker should be commended. For a lark, after watching Jon's portrayal in the episodes, I checked out every Punisher comic compilation in my library system, the ones not missing or that could be found, and the quality of storytelling/characterization was all over the map. Some were decent, but a good chunk were complete drek. If the story Jon tells is true, then that worker did us all a solid.

When I finished that self imposed project, I had to cleanse the head. When Punisher comics are bad, they are downright awful.
 
2022-05-13 6:28:27 PM  
Skip all of them and watch Babylon 5 instead.
 
2022-05-13 6:29:23 PM  
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2022-05-13 6:31:55 PM  
How do you feel about watching the Chief be tortured in many different ways. Because, depending on that. There's about 30 episodes to skip.
 
2022-05-13 6:34:08 PM  

Gubbo: How do you feel about watching the Chief be tortured in many different ways. Because, depending on that. There's about 30 episodes to skip.


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2022-05-13 6:34:22 PM  
Profit and Lace is awful. I'd rather watch an entire season of Threshold than that episode.

Other than that, really, watch everything. Like others have said, characterization happens in even seemingly unconnected episodes.

Also, the acting is rough in the first couple episodes, especially with Sisko, but they really do settle in to the characters eventually.
 
2022-05-13 6:35:18 PM  

K.B.O. Winston: Wine Sipping Elitist: I say watch seasons 1 and 2 last. Treat them like the Star Wars Prequels or the Extended Universe character back stories.

Difficulty: Duet is an amazing piece of writing that stands next to a lot of WWII scripts/stories I've read.  So I'm glad I watched that one.  And The Wire is basically 'what if fanfic but canon?'

After a little dipping and diving, I'm trying to do this 'for real' and I'm realizing it was the pilot that put me off the other times I tried.  It's... a lot.  Sisko's more stage-friendly acting style just kept bumping me.  Still setting up a lot of good future conflicts/dynamics, though.

(I already have you farkied as "Loves DS9" by the way.)


Perhaps the most under-rated episode of DS9. And for a first season show, its a pretty brave topic.
 
2022-05-13 6:35:44 PM  
I know DS9 ≠ Voyager, but I just ran across this before the thread.

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2022-05-13 6:41:17 PM  
"Far beyond the Stars", in Season 6 is my least favourite episode. It invokes the "it was all a dream" trope, and reminds me of The Met's really annoying habit of interviewing opera performers in the intervals between acts.
Way to destroy the suspension of disbelief, guys.

/Others think it's the best episode

//go figure
///"Allamaraine, count to four,
Allamaraine, then three more,
Allamaraine, if you can see,
Allamaraine, you'll come with me...
"
 
2022-05-13 6:46:08 PM  

Arachnophobe: Profit and Lace is awful. I'd rather watch an entire season of Threshold than that episode.


I'd love to watch or read the original draft of that one.  Word going around among trans sci-fi fans (so Tumblr) is it was originally intended to actually explore the trans experience and early drafts reflect that before Berman decided it had to be played for the lols.

On the other hand, if Berman was guilty of killing half the things he was accused killing, his diary would've read like the Izzard 'Hitler's dairy' bit, so who knows?
 
2022-05-13 6:47:42 PM  

gnatdbug: PartTimeBuddha: I noticed this becoming a thing on Reddit. People asking what comics they should read.

It's always baffled me. "You should read the comics you enjoy."

Some aspects of DS9 become very noticeably weaker toward the end of the series. It needs a serious polish on its CGI. But it's a good run overall.

I liken asking for comic suggestions importance to what happened when John B got the part as Punisher in the Netflix series.

So there was a facebook meme/story with Jon B. talking about going into a comic store and buying Punisher comics and being told "not to read these, to read these instead and not to mess it up?" That comic book store worker should be commended. For a lark, after watching Jon's portrayal in the episodes, I checked out every Punisher comic compilation in my library system, the ones not missing or that could be found, and the quality of storytelling/characterization was all over the map. Some were decent, but a good chunk were complete drek. If the story Jon tells is true, then that worker did us all a solid.

When I finished that self imposed project, I had to cleanse the head. When Punisher comics are bad, they are downright awful.


I like what you say.

I'm an X-Men fan. The Avengers are too primary color for me. But the question, "What should I read?" is bizarre on its face because it lacks any sense of a goal. There's 60 years* of comics, there. A vast number of X-Men fans venerate Claremont, and that's great, but I, personally, loathe reading (and it is mostly reading) his work.

"What should I read ... for what purpose?"

If you want a complete understanding of the X-Men -- your own memory withstanding the shocks that flesh is heir to -- then read them all. And you still won't have an understanding because they are creatures that exist issue by issue.

But to return to OP before I get even more worked up:

"If you like something, keep watching it. If you don't, skip ahead and be prepared to realize you've missed something."
_____
* No, it isn't 70.
 
2022-05-13 6:50:05 PM  

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You can't really mute "It's Only a Paper Moon".
 
2022-05-13 6:51:06 PM  
As the Boobieser on thread said, they are all pretty watchable. Even (Move Along Home, there are far worse episodes in other Trek series).
Having said that, if I were to skip some episodes it would be some of the ones dealing with the Bajoran religious/internal politics bullpoop.
 
2022-05-13 6:52:48 PM  

Gubbo: How do you feel about watching the Chief be tortured in many different ways. Because, depending on that. There's about 30 episodes to skip.


31.

/O'Brien roots for the Browns
 
2022-05-13 6:55:54 PM  
Skip "In the Pale Moonlight". That one totally sucks.
 
2022-05-13 6:56:28 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Gordon Bennett: [Fark user image image 550x750]

You can't really mute "It's Only a Paper Moon".


It could've worked as an episode for demonstrating Ezri's abilities as a counselor instead of serving as yet another Fontaine-centric episode.
 
2022-05-13 7:00:18 PM  

Bslim: As the Boobieser on thread said, they are all pretty watchable. Even (Move Along Home, there are far worse episodes in other Trek series).
Having said that, if I were to skip some episodes it would be some of the ones dealing with the Bajoran religious/internal politics bullpoop.


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2022-05-13 7:00:47 PM  
Ah, I also forgot. Skip the first 20 minutes of Luaxana Troi episodes. She is the same as she was on TNG. Only the 3rd act matters of that episode.
 
2022-05-13 7:07:01 PM  
i'm on my second leg of my first watchthrough, (currently deep in season 7) i can't really point to much specifically to skip, though i can say that the "skip forward 15 seconds" button on Netflix did get a motherfarker of a workout for a lot of episodes (Profit and Lace being a notable one). basically, if you get bored skip through the episode to get the cliff notes and know you might still miss some setup for things to come. i will say that if you're used to more twisty-turny modern TV, you will be able to call how most episodes are going to shake out before the opening titles come up, but it's still all quite well done. i do agree that the show doesn't truly kick into gear until Sisko's grown the beard and shaved his head, and Worf joins the cast. once you're there you're in good hands for the rest of the run.
 
2022-05-13 7:09:16 PM  
yes, watch them all and make up your own mind
But my #1 skip it episode is "Time's Orphan"
It's so bad most people forget about it.

/I'll watch Ferengi episodes before I'll watch the O'Brien torture episodes
 
2022-05-13 7:09:48 PM  

puffy999: Bslim: As the Boobieser on thread said, they are all pretty watchable. Even (Move Along Home, there are far worse episodes in other Trek series).
Having said that, if I were to skip some episodes it would be some of the ones dealing with the Bajoran religious/internal politics bullpoop.

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But seriously, my feeling is they dealt with Bajoran politics very inconsistently. Opaka was poised to lead then she suddenly decides to "later brah!" her people for...reasons  (oh, wait, it was "the prophets" riiiiight) after that nothing dealing with that nonsense sat right with me. I'm thinking there was some sort of change of direction with that storyline.
Anyhoo, the show would then forget about Bajoran politics until someone in the writers room remembered those folks existed.
 
2022-05-13 7:11:32 PM  

Mugato: Skip "In the Pale Moonlight". That one totally sucks.


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2022-05-13 7:12:30 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: AppleOptionEsc: On first watch, you might as well suffer, as most episodes have something happening in them.

On second watch, skip any episode centered around the Grand Nagus, Quark's mom, or cross dressing.

Except for "Family Business"


Also, "The Magnificent Ferengi" is a must.

Just watch them all on the first run. Skipping early seasons miss really good and/or important episodes such as "Duet" or "The Jem'Hadar", as well as the intro of important recurring characters such Winn and Garak (as well as seeing what a little shiat Nog started out as).
 
2022-05-13 7:18:46 PM  

darkman2000: yes, watch them all and make up your own mind
But my #1 skip it episode is "Time's Orphan"
It's so bad most people forget about it.

/I'll watch Ferengi episodes before I'll watch the O'Brien torture episodes


ok, i lied earlier: if you see the O'Brien's go to a planet for a picnic, just hit the farking "next episode" button, Time's Orphan is farking trash.
 
2022-05-13 7:19:17 PM  

madgonad: Skip all of them and watch Babylon 5 instead.


Truth! ;)
 
2022-05-13 7:19:30 PM  

stickmangrit: the "skip forward 15 seconds" button on Netflix


When I did DS9 on Netflix, I played a lot of them at 1.25x speed. 'Profit and Lace' got the full 1.5x speed.
 
2022-05-13 7:21:44 PM  
spiralscratch:
Just watch them all on the first run. Skipping early seasons miss really good and/or important episodes such as "Duet" or "The Jem'Hadar", as well as the intro of important recurring characters such Winn and Garak (as well as seeing what a little shiat Nog started out as).

I forget where I read it, but I heard Nog went on to beat the Kobayashi Maru test. He surrendered the ship but instead of just handing it over, insisted on negotiating the terms of the surrender.  he basically just went so hard at negotiations he broke the program.
 
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