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(Twitter)   In a shocking, not so shocking move, France suggests Ukraine surrender some land to Russia so Putin can save face. Zelensky: How about no? Does no work for you?   (twitter.com) divider line
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2022-05-13 1:26:26 PM  
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2022-05-13 1:29:03 PM  
It would let Ukraine get rid of their Russia minority and retrench as a more ethnically and politically unified country?
 
2022-05-13 1:38:53 PM  
Until the war criminals are driven out of the Crimea, Ukraine needs to destroy every Russian invader.
 
2022-05-13 1:44:46 PM  
BAH!..Cheese eating surrender monkeys. I'd think they should keep cock-punching the Russian Army every chance they get otherwise, there will be other targets. Putin is trying to create his legacy here and until he feels he has conquered whatever it is he thinks he needs to, he's not going to stop.
 
2022-05-13 1:45:54 PM  
That's their answer to everything.
 
2022-05-13 1:58:31 PM  
When did he propose this? Right before the invasion? Yesterday?
 
2022-05-13 2:02:23 PM  
Macron should give up just a little power to LePen so their hard right can save face.

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2022-05-13 2:04:49 PM  
And some people keep on claiming Boris is the one secretly in Putin's pocket....
 
2022-05-13 2:07:02 PM  
France knows how to surrender!!
 
2022-05-13 2:07:03 PM  

dv-ous: It would let Ukraine get rid of their Russia minority and retrench as a more ethnically and politically unified country?


Eastern Ukraine is where all the gas and oil fields are.
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2022-05-13 2:07:37 PM  
Just keep running them orcs through the meat grinder, Putin will be dead of blood cancer soon enough
 
2022-05-13 2:09:04 PM  
Ukraine is winning.F*ck Putin's feelings I say.
 
2022-05-13 2:09:18 PM  
Yeah, I'm tired of the world needing to cover their ass and save face.

What the world needs is more candor, and consequently more forgiveness when people fark up and are honest about it.

So while I'm waiting for my shiat to turn purple, and smell like rainbow sherbet, we may as well get some more critical thinking skills involved too.
 
2022-05-13 2:09:19 PM  
If there is a question about surrendering. Might as well ask the experts.
 
2022-05-13 2:10:19 PM  

dobro: France knows how to surrender!!


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2022-05-13 2:10:26 PM  
France is willing to surrender land.  What countries want some french territory?  If they want surrender so bad, maybe putin should surrender land to Ukraine?  Why isnt france telling Putin to surrender?  Is france infected with skin job orcs that look like humans?  Has france become a putin state?  If so the world needs to nuke it off the map to stop the orc infection frim spreading.
 
2022-05-13 2:10:44 PM  
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2022-05-13 2:10:47 PM  
If I was the President of France I wouldn't take the advice if I was the President of Ukraine!
 
2022-05-13 2:10:57 PM  
Let Putin win now so he can have a victory and come back and do the same thing again.
How about "Non"
 
2022-05-13 2:11:00 PM  
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He keeps trying to position himself as some kind of wise elder statesman and he keeps looking like a clown.  Stop. Trusting. Putin.
 
2022-05-13 2:11:13 PM  
France has more land than Ukraine does.... cmon France, why dont YOU give Putin some appeasement land.... put your money where your mouth is.
 
2022-05-13 2:11:25 PM  
Geeze what's France's fark handle this month. I could swear I've seen Fark's putinsuckers spewing this shiat.
 
2022-05-13 2:12:27 PM  

covfefe: If I was the President of France I wouldn't take the advice if I was the President of Ukraine!


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2022-05-13 2:12:32 PM  
Ukraine were the ones who got invaded, and now that they're winning against the Russians, France expects Ukraine to give up territory?
Well at least Europeans are just as stupid about world history as your average American.
 
2022-05-13 2:12:45 PM  
I thought le pen was the Russian stooge
 
2022-05-13 2:12:47 PM  
How long did it take Zelinskiy to stop laughing?
 
2022-05-13 2:12:58 PM  
Macron can always surrender a bit of France to Russia and see how the populace likes that.
 
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2022-05-13 2:13:29 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: And some people keep on claiming Boris is the one secretly in Putin's pocket....


Why not both?

Realistically is more likely everyone surrounding Boris as Boris is too busy fathering children with another mistress.
 
2022-05-13 2:13:47 PM  
How much of an area do they need to bury all the Russian conscripts?
Sure, family and friends can visit and stuff, but they also will be required to mow the grass.
 
2022-05-13 2:13:49 PM  
F*cking French collaborator piece of shiat.
 
2022-05-13 2:13:53 PM  
How is that in Zelensky's and Ukraine's interests?  Putin wants it all and much more.
 
2022-05-13 2:14:21 PM  
Way to live up to the geopolitical stereotype, France.
 
2022-05-13 2:14:27 PM  

Bootleg: When did he propose this? Right before the invasion? Yesterday?


Monday.

https://www.politico.eu/article/zelenskyy-macron-asked-ukraine-concession-help-putin-save-face/
 
2022-05-13 2:14:33 PM  
As much fun as it is to mock Russia for underestimating Ukraine, the rest of the world has underestimated them as well.
 
2022-05-13 2:14:36 PM  
Russia: (has more territory than any other nation on Earth)

Russia: "We need more territory! Its not fair!"
 
2022-05-13 2:14:37 PM  

Bootleg: When did he propose this? Right before the invasion? Yesterday?


Yep. "Would Ukraine be willing to give up land to end the war?" is an entirely valid question in the right context.
 
2022-05-13 2:14:44 PM  
Wow! Macron really needs to just STFU and stop coddling the despot.
 
2022-05-13 2:15:05 PM  
It's not a bad idea. Morally? Yeah, but putin could at least lie and save some face if he told his people he took some land. Give them some crappy acres that don't grow anything. Like a mile in. If a few acres stop the war, I think it's worth it.
But then, I've only played RISK
 
2022-05-13 2:15:11 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: covfefe: If I was the President of France I wouldn't take the advice if I was the President of Ukraine!

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I wouldn't talk about that if I were you!
 
2022-05-13 2:15:39 PM  
Oh, voici monsieur le presidente:

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2022-05-13 2:15:46 PM  
They did that already.  Turn out Russia wanted more... again.
 
2022-05-13 2:15:58 PM  
They may have to give up territory. The cease fire deal after 2014 didn't call for land to be ceded but did set up that possibility for the future (not that this is a valid agreement).

But ultimately, giving up land to end the conflict is a Ukrainian decision. Foreign leaders should stay quiet on that.
 
2022-05-13 2:16:26 PM  

stuffy: If there is a question about surrendering. Might as well ask the experts.


Interestingly, it was France's lack of modernization and adherence to WWI tactics that caused them to be overrun by the blitzkrieg in WWII

Not too dissimilar to Russia's adherence to its WWII tactics that are resulting in their getting their asses kicked by a wee little nation of farmers

While the Vichy French regime was indeed despicable, let's not forget the valor and bravery of the French Resistence who made invaluable contributions to the Allied efforts. Perhaps there are factions in Russia who can achieve the same
 
2022-05-13 2:16:29 PM  

OdradekRex: That's their answer to everything.


Why does France have so many tree lined boulevards?

The Germans like to march in the shade.
 
2022-05-13 2:16:54 PM  
This war needs to end with Ukraine asking how much land Russia is willing to concede to Ukraine in exchange for peace. fark Macron
 
2022-05-13 2:17:25 PM  
Don't worry, guys: Macron swore he was positive this deal would ensure peace for our time!
 
2022-05-13 2:17:53 PM  

kbronsito: But ultimately, giving up land to end the conflict is a Ukrainian decision. Foreign leaders should stay quiet on that.


I don't think the Ukrainians are gonna to give Russia a single cubic centimeter of their land. Especially since the Russians have been commiting atrocities against civilians.
 
2022-05-13 2:18:05 PM  
Good lord you guys bite hard.
 
2022-05-13 2:18:10 PM  
In certain scenarios, it might be okay.  For instance, if Ukraine ended up sending the Russian army into retreat and marched all the way into Moscow, then, sure, maybe let Russia have some of it's land back.  And provided that there's a mile-wide DMZ on the Ukraine-Russia border.

No one has really gamed out how the end of this thing is going to send Russia back to the 19th century.  After the sanctions start farking the country big time, there will be riots, mayhem, looting and sure enough, refugees trying to flee the place.

Russia can fark itself.
 
2022-05-13 2:18:54 PM  
France of all nations should know what it feels like to give up some of it's sovereign territory to a foreign despotic regime.

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