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(LAD Bible)   Vogue Magazine threatens to sue 200-year-old pub in the UK for daring to have the name of the village where it's located in its name   (ladbible.com) divider line
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2022-05-13 11:53:10 AM  
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2022-05-13 12:08:38 PM  
Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.
 
2022-05-13 12:32:52 PM  
Good on him. I'd be telling them to f*ck right off too.

And really, are people going to confuse a Welsh village with a fashion rag? Please.
 
2022-05-13 12:53:59 PM  

Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.


That was MacDowells
 
2022-05-13 12:55:31 PM  

no1curr: Good on him. I'd be telling them to f*ck right off too.

And really, are people going to confuse a Welsh village with a fashion rag? Please.


I'd love to be snarky, but I'm genuinely interested to know where you pulled Wales from... a phrase I was not expecting to use today..

"Fashion magazine Vogue has sent a cease-and-desist letter to a pub in the hamlet of Vogue in Cornwall."
 
2022-05-13 12:55:50 PM  
A lawyer-y type person once explained to me that some of these real dumb suits are with long-term copyright/trademark protection in mind. If you don't pursue it, even if you know it's frivolous and you know you're going to lose or call it off, you can still show you did it. That way, later down the line, someone who's genuinely trying to infringe on your intellectual property can't say, "Well, look at all these other cases they didn't care about. Clearly, I can do my thing, too."

(I suspect it also has something to do with lawyers on retainer trying to show they're worth their salaries.)
 
2022-05-13 12:56:41 PM  

Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.


They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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2022-05-13 12:57:15 PM  
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2022-05-13 12:58:25 PM  
I've dealt with this kind of situation before. The company legal department sets a up an automatic flag for relevant names registered at Companies House. They receive an automatic notice and paralegal sends out a standard letter, one level down from a formal cease and desist. The addressee responds and it doesn't go any further because, as in this case, there isn't a trademark infringement. End of story.
 
2022-05-13 1:01:12 PM  
He inherited the job, and thus has the mental capacity and sense of maturity that we have all come to expect from aristocracy.
 
2022-05-13 1:01:57 PM  
Great publicity for the pub.  But it's too bad the place had to have its name dragged through the mud like that.  Can you imagine if you accidentally got associated with some windbag of a pamphlet pusher?
 
2022-05-13 1:02:17 PM  
So, the pub is not even called the Vogue and those idiots send letter with demands to the pub... why?

Hell, the pub owner should have sent them a response in Welsh. With some very long and culturally-specific word meaning GFY.
 
2022-05-13 1:03:31 PM  
If the bar has held that name for 200 years, they should counter sue Vogue for using the name.
 
2022-05-13 1:03:56 PM  
I was hoping for an Uno reverse card situation.  "Actually, we've been around longer and demand that you quit using our name on your over priced toilet paper."
 
2022-05-13 1:05:06 PM  

Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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first i laughed heartily, then i trembled with rage at the misplaced apostrophe, then didn't care about anything.

it was quite a roller coaster ride.
 
2022-05-13 1:06:15 PM  
The pub should just rename itself The Star Inn at Tiger Beat and Vogue magazine should change its name to Perfume Ads and Photos of Skeletons and everyone will be satisfied.
 
2022-05-13 1:06:32 PM  

Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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They also filed and lost a lawsuit against a Malaysian chain called McCurry.

/you'd think McDonald's could afford to hire lawyers who wouldn't waste money on such frivolous lawsuits
 
2022-05-13 1:08:15 PM  
That guy looks like Phil Harris, and it's weirding me out.

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2022-05-13 1:08:51 PM  

johnny_vegas: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

That was MacDowells


I'll have the Big Mick please.
 
2022-05-13 1:08:55 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: If the bar has held that name for 200 years, they should counter sue Vogue for using the name.


I was thinking the same but, the statue of limitations is up and there's no confusion between a town and a magazine. In other words they're Never Gonna Get It
 
2022-05-13 1:09:08 PM  

Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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2022-05-13 1:13:01 PM  

anfrind: Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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They also filed and lost a lawsuit against a Malaysian chain called McCurry.

/you'd think McDonald's could afford to hire lawyers who wouldn't waste money on such frivolous lawsuits


A copyright has to be defended to remain valid. It's stupid but, well, that's what we get for letting lawyers write laws
 
2022-05-13 1:17:22 PM  

chitownmike: anfrind: Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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They also filed and lost a lawsuit against a Malaysian chain called McCurry.

/you'd think McDonald's could afford to hire lawyers who wouldn't waste money on such frivolous lawsuits

A copyright has to be defended to remain valid. It's stupid but, well, that's what we get for letting lawyers write laws


A trademark.  A copyright does not require defense
 
2022-05-13 1:17:45 PM  
Good thing my favorite magazine is safe.
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2022-05-13 1:18:58 PM  

gonegirl: A lawyer-y type person once explained to me that some of these real dumb suits are with long-term copyright/trademark protection in mind. If you don't pursue it, even if you know it's frivolous and you know you're going to lose or call it off, you can still show you did it. That way, later down the line, someone who's genuinely trying to infringe on your intellectual property can't say, "Well, look at all these other cases they didn't care about. Clearly, I can do my thing, too."

(I suspect it also has something to do with lawyers on retainer trying to show they're worth their salaries.)


I once had a client get served with one of those letters for a copyright that was already invalidated by the federal court. I was like biatch, you can't send letters demanding payment for copyright infringement when there's no copyright to infringe. They were lucky my clients didn't go after them for fraud.
 
2022-05-13 1:19:15 PM  
Five minutes in to the future.


THE MAGAZINE FORMERLY KNOWN AS Vogue Magazine threatens to sue LOSES TO A 200-year-old pub in the UK for daring to have the name of the village where it's located in its name.   VAGUE MAGAZINE MUST NOW PAY ALL COURT COST, A LARGE FINE, AND ANOTHER FINE FOR MISSPELLING OF NORMAL BRITISH WORDS LACKING IN THE LETTER "U" AND THE LIGATURE "Æ"
 
2022-05-13 1:20:55 PM  

Glenford: johnny_vegas: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

That was MacDowells

I'll have the Big Mick* please.


*Only available in Ireland
 
2022-05-13 1:21:28 PM  

gameshowhost: Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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first i laughed heartily, then i trembled with rage at the misplaced apostrophe, then didn't care about anything.

it was quite a roller coaster ride.


Pace yourself, Tuffles...it's been a long day. Might I suggest a pint at the local pub?
 
2022-05-13 1:24:38 PM  

BitwiseShift: Five minutes in to the future.


20 minutes into the future...

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"Remember when we said there was no future? Well, this is it."
 
2022-05-13 1:26:39 PM  

awruk!: So, the pub is not even called the Vogue and those idiots send letter with demands to the pub... why?


It sort of is.  The name is "The Star Inn at Vogue".  Vogue being the name of the town the pub is in.
 
2022-05-13 1:27:24 PM  
The clear solution here is for the town to change its name.
 
2022-05-13 1:28:44 PM  

anfrind: Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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They also filed and lost a lawsuit against a Malaysian chain called McCurry.

/you'd think McDonald's could afford to hire lawyers who wouldn't waste money on such frivolous lawsuits


McDonalds sues (and usually wins) anything called Mc[noun].  In the US, they would probably win against a place calling itself "McCurry".  But different jurisdictions vary.
 
2022-05-13 1:31:03 PM  

phalamir: chitownmike: anfrind: Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

[Fark user image 800x533]

They also filed and lost a lawsuit against a Malaysian chain called McCurry.

/you'd think McDonald's could afford to hire lawyers who wouldn't waste money on such frivolous lawsuits

A copyright has to be defended to remain valid. It's stupid but, well, that's what we get for letting lawyers write laws

A trademark.  A copyright does not require defense


You're right of course, thanks
 
2022-05-13 1:31:55 PM  

Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.


Ireland, they lost .
 
2022-05-13 1:33:57 PM  

no1curr: Good on him. I'd be telling them to f*ck right off too.

And really, are people going to confuse a Welsh village with a fashion rag? Please.


Cornwall.
FWIW, I have been to this pub, old as hell, cielings so low that a Canadian 6 footer like me had to stand between the beams, and fantastic beer, tapped straight from the wood.
 
2022-05-13 1:34:06 PM  
There is a beer from Avery Brewing called Ellie's Brown Ale.  It used to be called Elle's Brown Ale, named after the founders dog.  They had to change the name because they were sued by Elle magazine.  Another story of big beer attempting to steal from the poor fashion magazine industry!
 
2022-05-13 1:35:07 PM  

Geotpf: anfrind: Kalashinator: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

They lost a lawsuit against an Irish burger chain called Supermac's back a few years ago.  Now "Big Mac" is not a protected trademark in the entire EU.

So naturally Burger King trolls them:

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They also filed and lost a lawsuit against a Malaysian chain called McCurry.

/you'd think McDonald's could afford to hire lawyers who wouldn't waste money on such frivolous lawsuits

McDonalds sues (and usually wins) anything called Mc[noun].  In the US, they would probably win against a place calling itself "McCurry".  But different jurisdictions vary.


They had this poor guy killed over it:  https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/kearneyhub/name/donnie-mccurry-obituary?id=32041970
 
2022-05-13 1:35:19 PM  

Dknsvsbl: no1curr: Good on him. I'd be telling them to f*ck right off too.

And really, are people going to confuse a Welsh village with a fashion rag? Please.

Cornwall.
FWIW, I have been to this pub, old as hell, cielings so low that a Canadian 6 footer like me had to stand between the beams, and fantastic beer, tapped straight from the wood.


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2022-05-13 1:35:58 PM  
Unrelated tangent, but it makes me sad that spending so much time on the internet as well as fighting Android's very opinionated (and frequently wrong) autocorrect caused my brain to stutter-step at subby's completely accurate usage of "it's" and "its" in the same phrase.

FFS, even as I'm typing this, Chrome is demanding I switch both.

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2022-05-13 1:37:11 PM  

Hawk the Hawk: That guy looks like Phil Harris, and it's weirding me out.

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Only if Phil
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And Bob Seger
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Jump into one of these together for a short ride.....
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2022-05-13 1:37:22 PM  

scalpod: Glenford: johnny_vegas: Merltech: Didn't McDonalds have a similar lawsuit in Britain over something similar to this?  I believe it was also some old pub.

That was MacDowells

I'll have the Big Mick* please.

*Only available in Ireland


Especially not available there
 
2022-05-13 1:37:58 PM  

blasterz: Unrelated tangent, but it makes me sad that spending so much time on the internet as well as fighting Android's very opinionated (and frequently wrong) autocorrect caused my brain to stutter-step at subby's completely accurate usage of "it's" and "its" in the same phrase.

FFS, even as I'm typing this, Chrome is demanding I switch both.

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If only there was something that could be done...
 
2022-05-13 1:40:13 PM  

awruk!: So, the pub is not even called the Vogue and those idiots send letter with demands to the pub... why?

Hell, the pub owner should have sent them a response in Welsh. With some very long and culturally-specific word meaning GFY.


Cornish not Welsh. Closely related, mutually intelligible, but there are only a few hundred native Cornish speakers left.
 
2022-05-13 1:44:53 PM  
How in hell could you confuse this wonderful old pub with that worthless rag?
 
2022-05-13 1:44:54 PM  
Katy Perry (which is not her real name) got in a fight with an Australian woman actually named Katie Perry, whose business predates the singer's use. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/katy-perry-tradmark-court-case-begins-in-sydney/100658126
 
2022-05-13 1:47:39 PM  

chitownmike: Dknsvsbl: no1curr: Good on him. I'd be telling them to f*ck right off too.

And really, are people going to confuse a Welsh village with a fashion rag? Please.

Cornwall.
FWIW, I have been to this pub, old as hell, cielings so low that a Canadian 6 footer like me had to stand between the beams, and fantastic beer, tapped straight from the wood.

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The particular beer was Hicks Specisl Draught, from St Austells Brewery. They only used wooden kegs, naturally conditioned, and it was only available tapped from the keg or hand pumped. Best beer I have ever had.
There way worse kinks out there.
 
2022-05-13 1:47:52 PM  
I love at the end of the letter the pub owner gave the magazine permission to use the name Vogue.
 
2022-05-13 1:49:10 PM  

blasterz: Unrelated tangent, but it makes me sad that spending so much time on the internet as well as fighting Android's very opinionated (and frequently wrong) autocorrect caused my brain to stutter-step at subby's completely accurate usage of "it's" and "its" in the same phrase.

FFS, even as I'm typing this, Chrome is demanding I switch both.

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I taught my phone to correct autocorrect to autocorrupt.
 
2022-05-13 1:49:24 PM  

Dknsvsbl: awruk!: So, the pub is not even called the Vogue and those idiots send letter with demands to the pub... why?

Hell, the pub owner should have sent them a response in Welsh. With some very long and culturally-specific word meaning GFY.

Cornish not Welsh. Closely related, mutually intelligible, but there are only a few hundred native Cornish speakers left.


OK, Cornish then. That would be fun too. For this stupidity I would even made an effort to find someone who would translate the letter. It would also contribute to keeping the language alive, a win-win really.
 
2022-05-13 1:53:20 PM  

apotheosis27: The clear solution here is for the town to change its name.


Yea.

It should change its name to Juggs.
 
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