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2022-05-09 7:50:23 AM  
So, a small group in the town passed a more than 50% cut to the school budget, to replace the local school with a couple of private companies. Citizens found a loophole that allowed a revote if enough of the population attended the meeting for the revote.  Town voted to restore the budget  377 to 2.
 
2022-05-09 7:55:14 AM  
Both companies have been championed by New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut, who helped them secure contracts with the state of New Hampshire.

They should probably check his financial holdings and ties to the companies.
 
2022-05-09 8:00:02 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Both companies have been championed by New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut, who helped them secure contracts with the state of New Hampshire.

They should probably check his financial holdings and ties to the companies.


Also:

Edelblut op-ed on family values in classroom sparks heated cultural debate - NH Business Review (nhbr.com)

He's a "CULTURE WARRIOR"....
 
2022-05-09 8:25:49 AM  
New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut is, like most Republicans, dedicated to killing public education.

What's not mentioned is Croydon is suffering a takeover of "Porcupines", the Free Staters who destroyed the town of Grafton by killing all its budgets.  (For that story, read "A Libertarian Walks into a Bear".)

IOW, "I don't care what happens to the world.  I don't want to pay any taxes."
 
2022-05-09 9:26:58 AM  

NewportBarGuy: NewportBarGuy: Both companies have been championed by New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut, who helped them secure contracts with the state of New Hampshire.

They should probably check his financial holdings and ties to the companies.

Also:

Edelblut op-ed on family values in classroom sparks heated cultural debate - NH Business Review (nhbr.com)

He's a "CULTURE WARRIOR"....


.Edelblut has been married for 30 years and has seven children. Five are college graduates, one is currently in college, and one is still at home. All of his children have been home educated.

Of course.
 
2022-05-09 9:27:23 AM  
Unfortunately the Republicans have reversed such attempts. Very recently in fact.
 
2022-05-09 9:28:43 AM  

claytonemery: IOW, "I don't care what happens to the world.  I don't want to pay any taxes."


The first commandment of the Fark Independent.
 
2022-05-09 9:28:50 AM  
A little sunshine
 
2022-05-09 9:30:30 AM  

UNC_Samurai: claytonemery: IOW, "I don't care what happens to the world.  I don't want to pay any taxes."

The first commandment of the Fark Independent.


Trust me. There are no independants.
 
2022-05-09 9:30:43 AM  
Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.  You find public school to be an overwhelming success?


Most of the products and services you consume are private subby.
 
2022-05-09 9:31:15 AM  
That's why nationally they're going with the boiling frog technique. Charter schools and the growing censorship of the anti-CRT movement.
 
2022-05-09 9:31:29 AM  

claytonemery: New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut is, like most Republicans, dedicated to killing public education.

What's not mentioned is Croydon is suffering a takeover of "Porcupines", the Free Staters who destroyed the town of Grafton by killing all its budgets.  (For that story, read "A Libertarian Walks into a Bear".)

IOW, "I don't care what happens to the world.  I don't want to pay any taxes."


These goons also complain about potholes.

Pick one, asswipes.
 
2022-05-09 9:32:26 AM  
Good to see the turnout was high, local news reporting was saying it might not be high enough to overturn the budget cut. Croyden is a really small town and the school is by far the largest expenditure. A lot of free staters have moved to the area with the mentality well I don't have a child in the school so why should I have to pay for it.
 
2022-05-09 9:32:39 AM  
"Everyone here should have been back here in March," said Joe Marko, a selectman who supported cutting the school budget.

Fark you.

Seriously, 60% of the town showed up because you didn't do your goddamned job - representing the people of your town. They showed up to fix what you broke, asshole, because you thought you could get away with breaking it.

That's the message you should be taking on board, Mr. Marko. You farked up, and the townspeople had to show up to clean up your goddamned malfeasance. That crowd was the personification of "don't make me farking come back here again."
 
2022-05-09 9:34:10 AM  
There is too much money in education for it not to be stolen by the private sector.
 
2022-05-09 9:35:36 AM  

NewportBarGuy: NewportBarGuy: Both companies have been championed by New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut, who helped them secure contracts with the state of New Hampshire.

They should probably check his financial holdings and ties to the companies.

Also:

Edelblut op-ed on family values in classroom sparks heated cultural debate - NH Business Review (nhbr.com)

He's a "CULTURE WARRIOR"....


At the risk of repeating what you said, he's an asshole. As is every other selectperson who voted to screw the budget - they thought that they could get away with pushing a self-serving, minority-driven position in place, counting on apathy to seal the deal.

They were farking wrong. And this is what should be happening in '22 & '24, as well.
 
2022-05-09 9:38:32 AM  
Can we please forward this to every registered Democrat in the country and remind them that:

Yes, you have to vote for *everything*
Yes, you have to vote when not enthused
Yes, you have to vote for every office on the ticket
Yes, you have to vote in primaries
Yes, you need to vote on that weirdly worded ballot initiative that talks about changes to the state comptroller office (because it's almost certainly a Koch-backed GQP power grab)

A couple of GQP dirtbags here almost succeeded in destroying public education because most people couldn't be bothered to turn out.  Luckily they had a mulligan- most places won't.
 
2022-05-09 9:39:26 AM  
Great idea. Cut the school budget and make your town totally undesirable to families. What could go wrong?

They were moving to an online model. No family wants that. I hope they vote this idiot out of office, fast.

NH is full of cheap libertarians.
 
2022-05-09 9:40:16 AM  
Our town high school was built in 1962. By 2012 it wasn't meeting our needs, one power plug in the front and one in the back for example. A town resident, conservative republican, and architect proposed pouring a slab and putting a Quonset hut on it. There would be rows of cubicles each with a screen. Lessons would be done on the screen. Instead of paying teachers, there would just be proctors who would make sure students were looking at their screens.

Education costs and when you don't value it there is no end to ways to eliminate it.
 
2022-05-09 9:42:45 AM  
Good on them, but they should've been paying attention to the usurpation of their children's education the first time there was a vote.
 
2022-05-09 9:44:39 AM  
Duh. It's much easier to bully public officials. Which the gun-toting granite bubbas love to do.
 
2022-05-09 9:50:37 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Both companies have been championed by New Hampshire Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut, who helped them secure contracts with the state of New Hampshire.

They should probably check his financial holdings and ties to the companies.


(R), so no problem.
 
2022-05-09 9:55:56 AM  
 
2022-05-09 9:59:19 AM  
So in this re-vote there were only two people who voted to keep the budget. Were those the only two people at the passing of the original budget? Or did the other people who approved it decide it was for the best to pretend that they'd seen the light?
 
2022-05-09 10:06:26 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.  You find public school to be an overwhelming success?


Most of the products and services you consume are private subby.


Your ability to intentionally misunderstand the problem is next-level.
 
2022-05-09 10:06:42 AM  

allegory: So in this re-vote there were only two people who voted to keep the budget. Were those the only two people at the passing of the original budget? Or did the other people who approved it decide it was for the best to pretend that they'd seen the light?


I'm going to guess the only attendees were government officials. Seriously, who is going to choose to show up to one of those meetings, especially in a small rural town.
 
2022-05-09 10:09:36 AM  

dracos31: GrizzlyPouch: Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.  You find public school to be an overwhelming success?


Most of the products and services you consume are private subby.

Your ability to intentionally misunderstand the problem is next-level.


Because the poster is not sincere.

It's easy to misunderstand when your paycheck depends on it.
 
2022-05-09 10:14:06 AM  

allegory: So in this re-vote there were only two people who voted to keep the budget. Were those the only two people at the passing of the original budget? Or did the other people who approved it decide it was for the best to pretend that they'd seen the light?


The residents of the town made the (errant) assumption that the elected town officials would act in the interests of the town, rather than for an ideology of ending public education. Thus I don't blame them necessarily for now showing up en masse to what would have otherwise been a standard town meeting.

I'm more impressed that they actually managed to get more than half of the entirety of the registered voters to show up to take advantage of that provision and be able to overturn this - that can work for a small town like this, but a larger town or city would likely have been screwed.

GQP - not even once. I'm sure these commissioners didn't run on a platform of completely ending public education. But they then take advantage of winning to make it happen.
 
2022-05-09 10:14:47 AM  
"Everyone here should have been back here in March," said Joe Marko, a selectman who supported cutting the school budget

No, farkstick, you never should have been in the position to make such a decision in the first place.
 
2022-05-09 10:18:54 AM  

FormlessOne: "Everyone here should have been back here in March," said Joe Marko, a selectman who supported cutting the school budget.

Fark you.

Seriously, 60% of the town showed up because you didn't do your goddamned job - representing the people of your town. They showed up to fix what you broke, asshole, because you thought you could get away with breaking it.

That's the message you should be taking on board, Mr. Marko. You farked up, and the townspeople had to show up to clean up your goddamned malfeasance. That crowd was the personification of "don't make me farking come back here again."


Exactly. The public should be able to trust that its government can do at basic tasks without needing literally half the population to show up and yell about it. I mean seriously, his statement is basically an admission that they knew that this would be wildly unpopular and that the only way they got away with it at all was by sneaking it in when people weren't paying attention.
 
2022-05-09 10:23:16 AM  

TommyDeuce: So, a small group in the town passed a more than 50% cut to the school budget, to replace the local school with a couple of private companies. Citizens found a loophole that allowed a revote if enough of the population attended the meeting for the revote.  Town voted to restore the budget  377 to 2.


Let's just see how they feel about it when their youngsters are taught to hate white people and poop in litter boxes!
 
2022-05-09 10:33:15 AM  
I'm moving past irritated and chagrined to outright pissed off that republicans are wasting so much of our public time on performative bullshiat.  If it was just them arguing about this nonsense that would be one thing, but they insist on trying to drag the rest of us into their stupid culture war.

This country, this world, has real problems.  Republicans aren't the least bit serious about addressing any of them.  The least they could do would be to sit down, shut up and get out of the way while the adults work to ensure we have a future as a country and a species.
 
2022-05-09 10:33:38 AM  
Good. Now recall every SOB that tried that nonsense.
 
2022-05-09 10:56:10 AM  

shut_it_down: I mean seriously, his statement is basically an admission that they knew that this would be wildly unpopular and that the only way they got away with it at all was by sneaking it in when people weren't paying attention.


The Republican platform in a nutshell.
 
2022-05-09 11:00:46 AM  

zeroman987: dracos31: GrizzlyPouch: Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.  You find public school to be an overwhelming success?


Most of the products and services you consume are private subby.

Your ability to intentionally misunderstand the problem is next-level.

Because the poster is not sincere.

It's easy to misunderstand when your paycheck depends on it.


Right.  Anybody who disagrees with me is disingenuous and only doing so for a paycheck.

Just like the people in this town who voted to cut the cost of public education in half only did so because they're evil right?  It's impossible they just thought it was the right thing to do.


Never mind that the town's school system only goes through 4th grade and the kids all go to private school after that anyway.

Or that the state's top education official has been touting the work of the private company going to be used.

It's either your way....or I'm an evil lizard person
 
2022-05-09 11:13:05 AM  
Kinda surprised they didn't go with the flow so they could live dumber freer or die
 
2022-05-09 12:00:12 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: zeroman987: dracos31: GrizzlyPouch: Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.  You find public school to be an overwhelming success?


Most of the products and services you consume are private subby.

Your ability to intentionally misunderstand the problem is next-level.

Because the poster is not sincere.

It's easy to misunderstand when your paycheck depends on it.

Right.  Anybody who disagrees with me is disingenuous and only doing so for a paycheck.

Just like the people in this town who voted to cut the cost of public education in half only did so because they're evil right?  It's impossible they just thought it was the right thing to do.


Never mind that the town's school system only goes through 4th grade and the kids all go to private school after that anyway.

Or that the state's top education official has been touting the work of the private company going to be used.

It's either your way....or I'm an evil lizard person


Well, if you're going to insist on a false dichotomy, then I choose the "You are an evil lizard person" option because it's the most likely.  Occam's razor, you know.
 
2022-05-09 12:14:24 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.


There must be something icky about it if they have to get rid of the public school for the private school to compete.

Isn't private industry all about quality driven by competition, so that people will voluntarily choose your product?  We have a private school down the street, and it must be really good because they don't have to cancel the public schools to prop it up.
 
2022-05-09 1:06:05 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: zeroman987: dracos31: GrizzlyPouch: Subby says that like their's something icky about private school.  You find public school to be an overwhelming success?


Most of the products and services you consume are private subby.

Your ability to intentionally misunderstand the problem is next-level.

Because the poster is not sincere.

It's easy to misunderstand when your paycheck depends on it.

Right.  Anybody who disagrees with me is disingenuous and only doing so for a paycheck.

Just like the people in this town who voted to cut the cost of public education in half only did so because they're evil right?  It's impossible they just thought it was the right thing to do.


Never mind that the town's school system only goes through 4th grade and the kids all go to private school after that anyway.

Or that the state's top education official has been touting the work of the private company going to be used.

It's either your way....or I'm an evil lizard person


At issue was the local school budget, which funds a school for children through fourth grade in town and covers tuition for older students to attend private and public schools in neighboring towns.

Public schools in nearby towns are an option - but require students pay some tuition since the kids don't live in that town.  Pretty common arrangement in NH - where they don't seem to have as many "consolidated" school districts.
 
2022-05-09 1:26:21 PM  
Thanks, reasonable people, for paying attention and also voting instead of whining online about how voting is useless because like and such as.
 
2022-05-09 3:08:38 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: shut_it_down: I mean seriously, his statement is basically an admission that they knew that this would be wildly unpopular and that the only way they got away with it at all was by sneaking it in when people weren't paying attention.

The Republican platform in a nutshell.


Yep, "you should have tried to stop us!" is how they try to shift blame to everyone else whenever the stupid shiat that they pulled blows up.
 
2022-05-09 4:38:59 PM  
I live near Croydon. Edelbluh is a radical asshole with too much power and the good people of Croydon kicked his stupid ass. This is why I love small town NH.
Maybe there is hope for America after all.
 
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