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2022-05-06 6:37:34 AM  
Now I want to try to do that with gstreamer and the emulated version of the game. The resolution is small enough to not require huge processing power.
 
2022-05-06 7:51:49 AM  
I'll be Oddjob.
 
2022-05-06 8:47:06 AM  
Your going to need a leaf blower to get that cartridge to work.
 
2022-05-06 8:48:26 AM  

Slaxl: I'll be Oddjob.


No Oddjob!!
 
2022-05-06 9:25:44 AM  
You can do this with about 300 bucks worth of extra equipment.
 
2022-05-06 9:31:52 AM  
I'm 45, I played these games when they came out so I have actual first hand experience with them. 

I still do not, and likely never will, understand all the hype surrounding this game. It was good but it wasn't a stand out special game for me. It looked average and played like other similar type games of the time. The only difference was it was a 007 game.

None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

It was a very good game that came along at the right time with a well known brand attached to it. That's about as excited as I'll ever be able to get over it.

/enjoy your nostalgia
//or fake nostalgia... whatever
 
2022-05-06 9:36:41 AM  
I swear, Goldeneye 64 is one of the most overrated, nostalgia-tainted games ever made. It's the Nirvana of video games.
 
2022-05-06 10:04:08 AM  
Geek Flex/CSB:  I work for the company that makes the two processors in the travel case next to the monitors.  They're older units, so that might explain the cost, but even still that's a ridiculously expensive way to fix the issue.
 
2022-05-06 10:24:52 AM  

Marcos P: Slaxl: I'll be Oddjob.

No Oddjob!!


fine but i get the bouncing grenade launcher of your destruction.
 
2022-05-06 10:36:33 AM  

Wesdog: I'm 45, I played these games when they came out so I have actual first hand experience with them. 

I still do not, and likely never will, understand all the hype surrounding this game. It was good but it wasn't a stand out special game for me. It looked average and played like other similar type games of the time. The only difference was it was a 007 game.

None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

It was a very good game that came along at the right time with a well known brand attached to it. That's about as excited as I'll ever be able to get over it.

/enjoy your nostalgia
//or fake nostalgia... whatever


For me, I had brothers and friends that I was able to play multiplayer with which is where it really shined.  Along with the cheat codes and different maps, doing an infinite rockets map or spamming proximity/remote mines gave some variety to the shenanigans.  One of the reasons I was underwhelmed when Halo came out because it gave you less options though bigger maps and vehicles.
 
2022-05-06 11:25:42 AM  
fark that, screencheating (which is apparently a "word" I learned today) was what made multiplayer fun.  Same with Mario Kart 64.
 
2022-05-06 11:38:13 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: fark that, screencheating (which is apparently a "word" I learned today) was what made multiplayer fun.  Same with Mario Kart 64.


It doesn't even eliminate it. You can still see the other screens.
 
2022-05-06 11:38:22 AM  

WilderKWight: I swear, Goldeneye 64 is one of the most overrated, nostalgia-tainted games ever made. It's the Nirvana of video games.


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2022-05-06 11:42:08 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: fark that, screencheating (which is apparently a "word" I learned today) was what made multiplayer fun.  Same with Mario Kart 64.


Ya apparently constantly being both on the run and chasing everyone down is a horrible thing and GoldenEye sucked for not allowing camping and other bullshiat.
 
2022-05-06 11:54:31 AM  

Wesdog: None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.


You know how we know you aren't 45 years old?
 
2022-05-06 12:13:50 PM  
It was fun but anybody who had a computer knew there was better MP stuff out there. What made it noteworthy was that it reached far more people than the better stuff on PC. If you don't know that Angela White is out there, jacking off to drawings of Goofy sticking his schnoz up to his eyeballs in Princess Leia's butt just might be serviceable enough.
 
2022-05-06 12:20:51 PM  

mjbok: You can do this with about 300 bucks worth of extra equipment.


That was my first thought, but they went all out with professional video-scaling and distribution gear. I'm sure their final result is much better, but yeah, you can give it a go without $10,000.
 
2022-05-06 12:24:26 PM  
GoldenEye on the N64 was the first video game that gave me motion sickness and that's all the nostalgia I can rustle up for it.

Although now I kind of want to dust off the ol' 64 and play some Cruis'n Exotica if we're talking nostalgia. Maybe some Vigilante 8. Definitely a few games of Ready 2 Rumble.

Well, hell. Looks like I know what I'm doing this rainy weekend.
 
2022-05-06 12:28:11 PM  

evilskinnybroad: Wesdog: None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

You know how we know you aren't 45 years old?


I'm surprised at 45... I would think those kids would be college age or just out of college for the Goldeneye hype.

EVERYONE I know played this. I'm 40, my little brother is 35. My brother and I, and all our friends played the hell out of it.

The theater dept in my highschool played it for breaks when working on shows, and would even project it onto a screen so we could play in the theater seats. Goldeneye on a 40ft screen was incredible.

The game was a blast. Multiplayer was obviously the only part people have nostalgia for, and it was amazing for that.

Anyone who had a childhood without fondly remembering Goldeneye in that era must have been living under a rock or had no one to play it with.

Single player was "fine".

\Complex plus prox mines.
\Also loved the temple map and a few others
 
2022-05-06 1:27:16 PM  
I guess I don't exist. I played Goldeneye at my friend's house, then went home and played much better games on my PC. It's not a bad game, aside from the single-digit framerate. I give it 3 out of 5 stars.
 
2022-05-06 1:28:19 PM  
Any computer with an analog capture card and 4 composite outputs could have done this already.
 
2022-05-06 1:36:02 PM  

grumpfuff: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: fark that, screencheating (which is apparently a "word" I learned today) was what made multiplayer fun.  Same with Mario Kart 64.

It doesn't even eliminate it. You can still see the other screens.


They explain it further in the Twitter comments.  It's a bench test; when they install it, they plan to have the screens facing in the cardinal directions.
 
2022-05-06 1:49:26 PM  

Summoner101: For me, I had brothers and friends that I was able to play multiplayer with which is where it really shined. Along with the cheat codes and different maps, doing an infinite rockets map or spamming proximity/remote mines gave some variety to the shenanigans. One of the reasons I was underwhelmed when Halo came out because it gave you less options though bigger maps and vehicles.


Perfect Dark gave you AI teammates that were not only given various "profiles" for aggressiveness and style of play but you also had the ability to give them commands to guard, attack, patrol and even gather weapons to starve your opponents. If you wanted to be a real jerk you could strap them with mines then send them to chase down other players, not to mention the weapon variety with various alt-fire modes. Not even TimeSplitters did that
 
2022-05-06 1:50:56 PM  
I played Goldeneye when it was released.  It was ok, but it didn't click with me and my group of friends.  Hell, we even tried that crappy South Park shooter when it was released.  We'd rather play Quake 2, Starcraft, or maybe sit on  the couch trash talk and play either 989's NCAA football games or EA's Madden 9x.

Simpler times.
 
2022-05-06 1:54:35 PM  

Marcos P: Slaxl: I'll be Oddjob.

No Oddjob!!


You can't stop me.
 
2022-05-06 2:03:48 PM  

Wesdog: I'm 45, I played these games when they came out so I have actual first hand experience with them. 

I still do not, and likely never will, understand all the hype surrounding this game. It was good but it wasn't a stand out special game for me. It looked average and played like other similar type games of the time. The only difference was it was a 007 game.

None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

It was a very good game that came along at the right time with a well known brand attached to it. That's about as excited as I'll ever be able to get over it.

/enjoy your nostalgia
//or fake nostalgia... whatever


"I couldn't find 3 other people willing to be in the same room with me in the late 90s so everyone who had friends is just experiencing 'fake nostalgia'"
 
2022-05-06 2:05:27 PM  
I used to play Servanaya Bunker w/ proxy mines and mine every spawn points..  i'm good at making friends.
 
2022-05-06 2:20:23 PM  

grumpfuff: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: fark that, screencheating (which is apparently a "word" I learned today) was what made multiplayer fun.  Same with Mario Kart 64.

It doesn't even eliminate it. You can still see the other screens.


Came here to say this. They've eliminated screencheating by... making it even easier to look at the other screens.

/tilt them away you dolts
 
2022-05-06 2:33:07 PM  
Farkers are complaining that GoldenEye64 has sharp knees.
 
2022-05-06 2:37:45 PM  

skyotter: Farkers are complaining that GoldenEye64 has sharp knees.


No one is talking about it's knees, but you.
 
2022-05-06 2:53:22 PM  
It was always odd to me to see people gush over Goldeneye 007, but balk at Perfect Dark.  This despite how Perfect Dark was a better game in all respects.  One person I talked to about that said that Goldeneye 007 laid the groundwork for Perfect Dark and is, therefore, superior anyway.  It never really made that much sense to me.
 
2022-05-06 2:59:49 PM  

Quantumbunny: evilskinnybroad: Wesdog: None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

You know how we know you aren't 45 years old?

I'm surprised at 45... I would think those kids would be college age or just out of college for the Goldeneye hype.

EVERYONE I know played this. I'm 40, my little brother is 35. My brother and I, and all our friends played the hell out of it.

The theater dept in my highschool played it for breaks when working on shows, and would even project it onto a screen so we could play in the theater seats. Goldeneye on a 40ft screen was incredible.

The game was a blast. Multiplayer was obviously the only part people have nostalgia for, and it was amazing for that.

Anyone who had a childhood without fondly remembering Goldeneye in that era must have been living under a rock or had no one to play it with.

Single player was "fine".

\Complex plus prox mines.
\Also loved the temple map and a few others


Exactly.

I'm 42 and graduated college 2002. I was painfully socially awkward, but this was freshman year dorm special. We had Ethernet for other shenanigans with Quake and Starcraft.

If you drank or smoked pot, this was on somewhere in the house/room/apartment.
 
2022-05-06 3:25:18 PM  

IceCube85: It was always odd to me to see people gush over Goldeneye 007, but balk at Perfect Dark.  This despite how Perfect Dark was a better game in all respects.  One person I talked to about that said that Goldeneye 007 laid the groundwork for Perfect Dark and is, therefore, superior anyway.  It never really made that much sense to me.


I played the ever living shiat out of Perfect Dark. There are dozens of us!
 
2022-05-06 6:15:48 PM  

Pigeonhole: mjbok: You can do this with about 300 bucks worth of extra equipment.

That was my first thought, but they went all out with professional video-scaling and distribution gear. I'm sure their final result is much better, but yeah, you can give it a go without $10,000.


I have a 350 dollar video wall controller (1 input four output) that CAN take RCA as an input.  Probably some delay, but still workable.
 
2022-05-06 6:30:19 PM  

IceCube85: It was always odd to me to see people gush over Goldeneye 007, but balk at Perfect Dark.  This despite how Perfect Dark was a better game in all respects.  One person I talked to about that said that Goldeneye 007 laid the groundwork for Perfect Dark and is, therefore, superior anyway.  It never really made that much sense to me.


That person is stupid and dumb
 
2022-05-06 6:36:09 PM  
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2022-05-06 6:38:10 PM  

Wesdog: I'm 45, I played these games when they came out so I have actual first hand experience with them.

I still do not, and likely never will, understand all the hype surrounding this game. It was good but it wasn't a stand out special game for me. It looked average and played like other similar type games of the time. The only difference was it was a 007 game.

None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

It was a very good game that came along at the right time with a well known brand attached to it. That's about as excited as I'll ever be able to get over it.

/enjoy your nostalgia
//or fake nostalgia... whatever


The single player is what I remember most. Little interactive details, like shooting a padlock off a gate, weren't commonly seen in games at that time. The closest to interactive environments at the time was probably Duke Nukem 3D. It was just nice to see a game where you could do something that made sense instead of obsessively hunting down keycards or switches to open a door.

There was more to it than that, but that was what stood out to me at the time. Multiplayer was also very fun when you had four people to play against. A lot of people didn't have friends with computers they could network together for PC multiplayer and there were no public servers back then. Hell, being allowed to tie up the telephone line so you could play a video game was quite rare. Local, splitscreen multiplayer was the only multiplayer a lot of kids and teens had back then.

But all of this would be quickly surpassed by newer games and, going back to play GoldenEye 007, it's kinda bland and somewhat irritating. So that nostalgia is very rose tinted for a lot of people. It's remembering good times with friends more than remembering a good game.

(For my money, the better - and still very fun - FPS on N64 was Turok: Dinosaur Hunter which is largely forgotten because it had no multiplayer and everyone seems to think its sequel is better. That's a game where I don't understand the hype.)
 
2022-05-06 7:16:41 PM  

UberSmyth: (For my money, the better - and still very fun - FPS on N64 was Turok: Dinosaur Hunter which is largely forgotten because it had no multiplayer and everyone seems to think its sequel is better. That's a game where I don't understand the hype.)


Turok was worked on by Farker RadidDog

https://www.fark.com/users/RabidDog

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/programming/obituary-game-programming-veteran-carl-wade
 
2022-05-06 8:04:05 PM  

UberSmyth: Wesdog: I'm 45, I played these games when they came out so I have actual first hand experience with them.

I still do not, and likely never will, understand all the hype surrounding this game. It was good but it wasn't a stand out special game for me. It looked average and played like other similar type games of the time. The only difference was it was a 007 game.

None of my gaming friends got excited about it after playing it. It wasn't a game we would talk about ourselves so it was funny watching everyone online get so excited and *squee* about the game years later.

It was a very good game that came along at the right time with a well known brand attached to it. That's about as excited as I'll ever be able to get over it.

/enjoy your nostalgia
//or fake nostalgia... whatever

The single player is what I remember most. Little interactive details, like shooting a padlock off a gate, weren't commonly seen in games at that time. The closest to interactive environments at the time was probably Duke Nukem 3D. It was just nice to see a game where you could do something that made sense instead of obsessively hunting down keycards or switches to open a door.

There was more to it than that, but that was what stood out to me at the time. Multiplayer was also very fun when you had four people to play against. A lot of people didn't have friends with computers they could network together for PC multiplayer and there were no public servers back then. Hell, being allowed to tie up the telephone line so you could play a video game was quite rare. Local, splitscreen multiplayer was the only multiplayer a lot of kids and teens had back then.

But all of this would be quickly surpassed by newer games and, going back to play GoldenEye 007, it's kinda bland and somewhat irritating. So that nostalgia is very rose tinted for a lot of people. It's remembering good times with friends more than remembering a good game.

(For my money, the better - and still very fun - FPS on N64 was Turok: Dinosaur Hunter which is largely forgotten because it had no multiplayer and everyone seems to think its sequel is better. That's a game where I don't understand the hype.)


Saying it doesn't hold up it's VEEERY different from having rose tinted glasses.

GoldenEye was enjoyable at the time. The fact that 25 years down the road have improved gaming so much doesn't change that.

Early 3d such as GoldenEye and Legend of Zelda OOT and Majora's Mask were great at the time despite being clunky and severely surpassed with modern improvements in UI, game design, sound, graphics, etc.

Old is not the same as bad.
 
2022-05-06 11:29:19 PM  

IceCube85: It was always odd to me to see people gush over Goldeneye 007, but balk at Perfect Dark.  This despite how Perfect Dark was a better game in all respects.  One person I talked to about that said that Goldeneye 007 laid the groundwork for Perfect Dark and is, therefore, superior anyway.  It never really made that much sense to me.


It came out late in the N64 and 2 months after everyone was playing with their new PS2s, not as many people got into it. And didn't it require that dumb expansion pack?
 
2022-05-06 11:59:58 PM  
Also, GoldenEye: Source is a thing. Free mod and does a pretty good job of approximating the feel of the weapons and combat without sacrificing current QoL
 
2022-05-07 12:55:31 AM  

Quantumbunny: GoldenEye was enjoyable at the time ... great at the time ... Old is not the same as bad.

I'm not sure you could find a better example of rose tinted glasses. GoldenEye 007 is a good game, but people make it out to be a great game because they have sentimental memories of it. I have great memories of playing it from a time when I could easily get together with three or more friends and play splitscreen multiplayer for hours in my parents' basement. Those were great times!

But I realize that, while those memories are great, GoldenEye 007 is not. It's by no means bad. It's fine and it was fine back then. It's an important footnote in the history of the FPS genre. I'll never play it again. Meanwhile, I continue to play Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, the aforementioned Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, and many other games of its time. Those are great games and will continue to be great games even when the glasses come off.
 
2022-05-07 2:38:43 AM  

UberSmyth: I continue to play Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, the aforementioned Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, and many other games of its time.


Talk about rose tinted glasses.
 
2022-05-07 10:34:10 AM  

I Like Bread: I guess I don't exist. I played Goldeneye at my friend's house, then went home and played much better games on my PC. It's not a bad game, aside from the single-digit framerate. I give it 3 out of 5 stars.


That's exactly it. Goldeneye is a "great" game if you didn't own a PC, or a previous game system that was arguably better than the N64 in terms of 3D processing power and graphics resolution (3DO, Sega Saturn, PS1) and released far better FPS games as a result (Duke Nukem, Doom, Killing Time, Exhumed, Quake, Hexen, Alien Trilogy, etc.)

But when you compare N64 FPS games to those on the PC, 3DO, Saturn, or PS1, they fall short. The N64 was extremely limited by the cartridge format, and the graphics were super-chunky and not great. It experienced lots of slow-down in heavily-populated areas of a game, too. It was just not made with FPS games in mind.

The N64 is amazing with platform games (both 2D and 3D), and pretty awesome with some racing games, but it was the last choice anyone who was interested in FPS games should have made in 1996. And comparing it to a PC or Mac of that time was just no contest. So yeah, a lot of us saw Goldeneye and just did not get why people were so over-the-moon for it. It was a step backwards.
 
2022-05-07 10:36:04 AM  

UberSmyth: But I realize that, while those memories are great, GoldenEye 007 is not. It's by no means bad. It's fine and it was fine back then. It's an important footnote in the history of the FPS genre. I'll never play it again. Meanwhile, I continue to play Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, the aforementioned Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, and many other games of its time. Those are great games and will continue to be great games even when the glasses come off.


Turok was arguably the best FPS on the N64, if you don't consider Quake 64 and Doom 64... Both of which were done way better on other platforms.
 
2022-05-07 10:49:54 AM  
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2022-05-07 12:14:05 PM  

WilderKWight: and released far better FPS games as a result (Duke Nukem, Doom, Killing Time, Exhumed, Quake, Hexen, Alien Trilogy, etc.)


Except absolutely none of those games could be played in a room with your friends unless you had really nerdy friends who were willing to all drag their bulky ass PC and monitor to someone's house.

The N64 was the ultimate dorm room console.
 
2022-05-07 3:35:33 PM  
I was in college from 96-2000. Goldeneye was a standard rotation as well as Mario kart 64 and WCW vs. NWO. Sprinkle in Madden and a 30 rack of Red Dog and we'd play for hours.
 
2022-05-07 4:42:39 PM  

rgGolf4: I was in college from 96-2000. Goldeneye was a standard rotation as well as Mario kart 64 and WCW vs. NWO. Sprinkle in Madden and a 30 rack of Red Dog and we'd play for hours.


Haha senior year of high school me and my buddy had early release from high school and would always go home and get high and play WCW
 
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