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2022-05-04 3:05:02 PM  
Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.
 
2022-05-04 5:56:15 PM  
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2022-05-04 6:00:33 PM  

Mugato: Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.


My impression was that Vin does well for himself, outside of acting.... He's an executive producer on all these films, and also the animated property on Netflix.   I think it was the same thing on the Riddick sequels.

He probably doesn't do much but stamp his name on it, but thats money in his pocket, nevertheless.
 
2022-05-04 6:01:46 PM  
Ok, so what you need to do is bring in a dream tandem to bring this home.  That's right you need Bay and Abrams.

Fast and Furious with Baysplosions and lensflare!
 
2022-05-04 6:10:23 PM  
I can believe it. Something about Diesel's demeanor over the past few films makes him seem like he's growing more and more intolerant and his sense of self-importance has inflated. Which is weird because he got his break by making a movie about how actors with his skin tone are discriminated against (Spielberg saw the movie and put Diesel in Saving Private Ryan).
 
2022-05-04 6:12:16 PM  
I've only seen Star Trek 3 and Better Luck Tomorrow.
Are the other Justin Lin movies good?
 
2022-05-04 6:12:35 PM  
Vin Diesel is hella creepy. i don't understand why he's popular,just ew.
 
2022-05-04 6:15:52 PM  

T.rex: Mugato: Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.

My impression was that Vin does well for himself, outside of acting.... He's an executive producer on all these films, and also the animated property on Netflix.   I think it was the same thing on the Riddick sequels.

He probably doesn't do much but stamp his name on it, but thats money in his pocket, nevertheless.


He's also (outside of Tyrese) the worst part of these flicks on screen.
 
2022-05-04 6:20:41 PM  
Vin Diesel's best role, IMHO:
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Not the kid.
 
2022-05-04 6:34:34 PM  
He just wasn't family.
 
2022-05-04 6:39:05 PM  
Well, there goes the "IT'S LIN-SANITY!!!" tagline.
 
2022-05-04 6:40:39 PM  
I thought it was common knowledge he's a huge asshole?
 
2022-05-04 6:45:23 PM  

Flappyhead: He just wasn't fambly


FTFY
 
2022-05-04 6:49:07 PM  
Some actors, when they hit a certain level, want to direct, and if a project is too big for them to direct themselves, they inject themselves into the behind the scenes process to a point where, even if they aren't directing, they are in control. The most notable examples are Stallone, who rewrote every movie that wasn't just a quick cash grab and had the authority to fire crew members, and Eastwood, who has only worked for one director in the last 50 years who wasn't either himself or an employee of his production company.

Truthfully, it's impressive that it took Vin this long to get to that point.
 
2022-05-04 6:50:50 PM  

moothemagiccow: I've only seen Star Trek 3 and Better Luck Tomorrow.
Are the other Justin Lin movies good?


In the Fast franchise he directed 3 - 5; Three was something of a soft reboot and 5 is still the best movie in the series.
 
2022-05-04 7:05:07 PM  
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/low hanging fruit
//YEAH!
 
2022-05-04 7:09:28 PM  

Mugato: Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation.


Diesel owns part of the Fast franchise. He's worth north of $225 million dollars. He's doing alright.
 
2022-05-04 7:30:18 PM  
I've always wished they'd gotten just about anyone else for Groot.
Same with Bradley Cooper and Rocket.
 
2022-05-04 7:47:36 PM  

stoli n coke: Some actors, when they hit a certain level, want to direct, and if a project is too big for them to direct themselves, they inject themselves into the behind the scenes process to a point where, even if they aren't directing, they are in control. The most notable examples are Stallone, who rewrote every movie that wasn't just a quick cash grab and had the authority to fire crew members, and Eastwood, who has only worked for one director in the last 50 years who wasn't either himself or an employee of his production company.

Truthfully, it's impressive that it took Vin this long to get to that point.


Stallone is a pretty good director, in his own right, but to your point, if its too much, he'll release directorial control... Like he got the Expendables franchise off the ground, directing the first one, but then allowed others to take the reigns.    Thats a cool tidbit about Clint.  Back in my PA days, i've had 2 actors tell me identical stories that Clint was the most efficient director they've ever worked with.  He'd come in under budget and under time, which is unheard of. He doesn't allow produces on the set, and suffers no fools.
 
2022-05-04 7:56:03 PM  

T.rex: Mugato: Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.

My impression was that Vin does well for himself, outside of acting.... He's an executive producer on all these films, and also the animated property on Netflix.   I think it was the same thing on the Riddick sequels.

He probably doesn't do much but stamp his name on it, but thats money in his pocket, nevertheless.


"Executive Producer" credit is what you give your secretary instead of a raise.
 
2022-05-04 8:08:09 PM  

moothemagiccow: I've only seen Star Trek 3 and Better Luck Tomorrow.
Are the other Justin Lin movies good?


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2022-05-04 8:11:56 PM  

T.rex: stoli n coke: Some actors, when they hit a certain level, want to direct, and if a project is too big for them to direct themselves, they inject themselves into the behind the scenes process to a point where, even if they aren't directing, they are in control. The most notable examples are Stallone, who rewrote every movie that wasn't just a quick cash grab and had the authority to fire crew members, and Eastwood, who has only worked for one director in the last 50 years who wasn't either himself or an employee of his production company.

Truthfully, it's impressive that it took Vin this long to get to that point.

Stallone is a pretty good director, in his own right, but to your point, if its too much, he'll release directorial control... Like he got the Expendables franchise off the ground, directing the first one, but then allowed others to take the reigns.    Thats a cool tidbit about Clint.  Back in my PA days, i've had 2 actors tell me identical stories that Clint was the most efficient director they've ever worked with.  He'd come in under budget and under time, which is unheard of. He doesn't allow produces on the set, and suffers no fools.


That's because he is his own producer.

Even in the 70s, when he made Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, he kept Michael Cimino on a short leash.
Cimino, you know, was notorious in his later films for demanding dozens of takes and sometimes spending all day to get one shot, but on that movie, while he was the director, it was Eastwood's company producing, so Cimino had to ask Clint for permission to do more than 5 takes of anything.

The "under/budget and on time or early" rep is why he has the Stanley Kubrick contract at Warners, where, as long as a movie doesn't cost a certain amount, he can do whatever he wants with no studio interference.
 
2022-05-04 8:18:14 PM  
I remember watching a trailer for the game Ark 2 starring a CGI Vin Diesel. It was pretty off-putting which I dismissed as uncanny valley until I realized: Vin Diesel looks last-gen in real life.
 
2022-05-04 8:20:28 PM  

I Like Bread: I remember watching a trailer for the game Ark 2 starring a CGI Vin Diesel. It was pretty off-putting which I dismissed as uncanny valley until I realized: Vin Diesel looks last-gen in real life.


It can't be worse than his CGI Scorpion King in The Mummy 2. Shiat, that was The Rock, wasn't it? Like there's a difference.
 
2022-05-04 8:27:31 PM  

thornhill: T.rex: Mugato: Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.

My impression was that Vin does well for himself, outside of acting.... He's an executive producer on all these films, and also the animated property on Netflix.   I think it was the same thing on the Riddick sequels.

He probably doesn't do much but stamp his name on it, but thats money in his pocket, nevertheless.

"Executive Producer" credit is what you give your secretary instead of a raise.


An EP credit can certainly be somewhat meaningless, but not in this case. He's pulling in a ton of money as a producer on these films.
 
2022-05-04 8:32:44 PM  

Mugato: Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.


The meathead thing seems likes it's purely an on screen thing because if you e ever seen him in interviews he's a complete dork.

He might have been an asshole in this scenario, but it honestly just sounds like a chaotic production from all angles.On previous films I had read that Diesel is generally beloved by the crew and fellow cast members. And most sided with him against The Rock.
 
2022-05-04 9:35:59 PM  

stoli n coke: T.rex: stoli n coke: Some actors, when they hit a certain level, want to direct, and if a project is too big for them to direct themselves, they inject themselves into the behind the scenes process to a point where, even if they aren't directing, they are in control. The most notable examples are Stallone, who rewrote every movie that wasn't just a quick cash grab and had the authority to fire crew members, and Eastwood, who has only worked for one director in the last 50 years who wasn't either himself or an employee of his production company.

Truthfully, it's impressive that it took Vin this long to get to that point.

Stallone is a pretty good director, in his own right, but to your point, if its too much, he'll release directorial control... Like he got the Expendables franchise off the ground, directing the first one, but then allowed others to take the reigns.    Thats a cool tidbit about Clint.  Back in my PA days, i've had 2 actors tell me identical stories that Clint was the most efficient director they've ever worked with.  He'd come in under budget and under time, which is unheard of. He doesn't allow produces on the set, and suffers no fools.

That's because he is his own producer.

Even in the 70s, when he made Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, he kept Michael Cimino on a short leash.
Cimino, you know, was notorious in his later films for demanding dozens of takes and sometimes spending all day to get one shot, but on that movie, while he was the director, it was Eastwood's company producing, so Cimino had to ask Clint for permission to do more than 5 takes of anything.

The "under/budget and on time or early" rep is why he has the Stanley Kubrick contract at Warners, where, as long as a movie doesn't cost a certain amount, he can do whatever he wants with no studio interference.


Thats awesome.... Cimino was always, how shall we say.... an indulgent director.   I never understood why Deer Hunter is heralded while Heaven's Gate was panned.    Granted, Heaven's Gate bankrupted whatever studio, but i think, as a film, its no more indulgent than Deer Hunter.   I rather thought it was pretty good.
 
2022-05-04 9:44:57 PM  

T.rex: Back in my PA days, i've had 2 actors tell me identical stories that Clint was the most efficient director they've ever worked with.


Jay Mohr continually tells the same story about working with Clint Eastwood on "Hereafter" about an actress who tried to extend what was essentially an extra scene and it always ends with Eastwood stomping up a set of set of stairs and saying "sweetheart, I cannot stress enough how much this movie isn't about YOU."

The details change a little, but the ending is the same, every time. Here's one sample:

Jay Mohr's Clint Eastwood Anecdote on Opie and Anthony
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He's told it on his podcast, on Kevin Smith's podcast, on radio interviews, etc. Same story every time. I feel sorry for the attention-whoring actress because even though she's not named, she knows who she is.
 
2022-05-04 9:51:39 PM  

T.rex: i've had 2 actors tell me identical stories that Clint was the most efficient director they've ever worked with


Also, Matt Damon talked about this in his Hot Ones interview:

Matt Damon Sweats From His Scalp While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Ones
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The entire interview is worth a watch, but the clip starts with the question about Clint.
 
2022-05-04 10:46:56 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: thornhill: T.rex: Mugato: Vin Diesel is an asshole

I can see that. Meathead body builder facing middle age and didn't have the business savvy that Arnold did in the same situation. I can see him being a dick to everyone.

My impression was that Vin does well for himself, outside of acting.... He's an executive producer on all these films, and also the animated property on Netflix.   I think it was the same thing on the Riddick sequels.

He probably doesn't do much but stamp his name on it, but thats money in his pocket, nevertheless.

"Executive Producer" credit is what you give your secretary instead of a raise.

An EP credit can certainly be somewhat meaningless, but not in this case. He's pulling in a ton of money as a producer on these films.


He doesn't have to be an EP to get points - all the top actors get that.

EP has become a completely honorary credit, often used to stoke someone's ego, thank someone, or create the appearance that someone is involved in a film when they aren't. This is why the EP isn't eligible for awards.

Hell, I have an EP credit on a tiny independent film because I helped connect the filmmakers with someone who provided funding (it's even listed on IMDB).
 
2022-05-04 11:21:25 PM  

thornhill: EP has become a completely honorary credit, often used to stoke someone's ego, thank someone, or create the appearance that someone is involved in a film when they aren't. This is why the EP isn't eligible for awards.


That's true to an extent, but it still varies per production.  It could be something as simple as yours, a token gift for helping the film out in some way, but it can also mean a significant role in financing and/or production.  From the sounds of it Diesel has a decent amount of pull in his role.

Of course that all only applies to films.  TV is another story where EP is essentially synonymous with Showrunner.
 
2022-05-04 11:44:24 PM  

bumfuzzled: I can believe it. Something about Diesel's demeanor over the past few films makes him seem like he's growing more and more intolerant and his sense of self-importance has inflated. Which is weird because he got his break by making a movie about how actors with his skin tone are discriminated against (Spielberg saw the movie and put Diesel in Saving Private Ryan).


Except an *obviously* Black soldier would not have been part of an infantry unit in 1944. They were kept in the rear, doing support tasks like the "Redball Express", driving the trucks that kept everyone supplied.

Diesel *could* pass as a swarthy Italian with the last name "Caparzo"  for SPR.
 
2022-05-04 11:52:03 PM  

T.rex: stoli n coke: T.rex: stoli n coke: Some actors, when they hit a certain level, want to direct, and if a project is too big for them to direct themselves, they inject themselves into the behind the scenes process to a point where, even if they aren't directing, they are in control. The most notable examples are Stallone, who rewrote every movie that wasn't just a quick cash grab and had the authority to fire crew members, and Eastwood, who has only worked for one director in the last 50 years who wasn't either himself or an employee of his production company.

Truthfully, it's impressive that it took Vin this long to get to that point.

Stallone is a pretty good director, in his own right, but to your point, if its too much, he'll release directorial control... Like he got the Expendables franchise off the ground, directing the first one, but then allowed others to take the reigns.    Thats a cool tidbit about Clint.  Back in my PA days, i've had 2 actors tell me identical stories that Clint was the most efficient director they've ever worked with.  He'd come in under budget and under time, which is unheard of. He doesn't allow produces on the set, and suffers no fools.

That's because he is his own producer.

Even in the 70s, when he made Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, he kept Michael Cimino on a short leash.
Cimino, you know, was notorious in his later films for demanding dozens of takes and sometimes spending all day to get one shot, but on that movie, while he was the director, it was Eastwood's company producing, so Cimino had to ask Clint for permission to do more than 5 takes of anything.

The "under/budget and on time or early" rep is why he has the Stanley Kubrick contract at Warners, where, as long as a movie doesn't cost a certain amount, he can do whatever he wants with no studio interference.

Thats awesome.... Cimino was always, how shall we say.... an indulgent director.   I never understood why Deer Hunter is heralded while Heaven's Gate was panned.    Gr ...


I like parts about Heaven's Gate, but I don't like the sum of the parts. While the photography and production design are top notch, the editing and script are a mess.

Deer Hunter, while about 20 minutes too long (most of that in the wedding scene), is a clear narrative. You know the major players, and you go along with them on their journey.

Heaven's Gate, along with having nearly every wide landscape shot go on for about 30 seconds longer than it needs to, lost its narrative focus in the third act. The storylines kept alternating between each other seemingly at random, and the final battle sequence is just plain confusing (I get he was trying to make the point that battle is confusing, but if you can't identify any characters you care about on screen, you don't have any investment in who gets shot). And it's even worse in the shortened 2 and a half hour version that occasionally pops up on Prime or Hulu. In that one, you're introduced to characters who seem like they're going to matter later in the plot, but that character is never heard from again.
 
2022-05-05 12:51:37 AM  
Well, duh. The Rock had a huge blow-up with Diesel on the last FF film they worked on, before The Rock split it off withe the Hobbes spinoff. Diesel was being a complete prima donna and The Rock told him in no uncertain terms to cool his heels and be a professional.
 
2022-05-05 2:28:53 AM  
I don't see how they can make big changes on the fly as a natural order of business. Then again, these movies aren't exactly high art.
 
2022-05-05 3:02:11 AM  
According to the article the entire production was being farked with from every angle by everyone involved and Vin's notes just happened to be the lastest thing. It also sounds like everything was pretty much standard operating procedure for any big budget movie. So what's more likely, Lin decided he couldn't handle being a franchise director anymore or Vin's just a giant asshole who single handedly torpedoed the entire film?
 
2022-05-05 6:02:34 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: I don't see how they can make big changes on the fly as a natural order of business. Then again, these movies aren't exactly high art.


They were only in the first couple of days of shooting, from what I've read. I'm sure universal can find an action director who'd like to make a quick large paycheck. Especially since most of the preproduction is already done.
 
2022-05-05 8:29:44 AM  
The arguments weren't about his directing.  He also wrote the script and didn't like Vin or others changing his words.  He also wrote F9 which was by far the worst of the series.  It's probably best for all of humanity that he threw a tantrum and quit.
 
2022-05-05 9:07:28 AM  

Mugato: I Like Bread: I remember watching a trailer for the game Ark 2 starring a CGI Vin Diesel. It was pretty off-putting which I dismissed as uncanny valley until I realized: Vin Diesel looks last-gen in real life.

It can't be worse than his CGI Scorpion King in The Mummy 2. Shiat, that was The Rock, wasn't it? Like there's a difference.


Vin Diesel is a PS2-gen Dwayne Johnson.
 
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