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2022-04-29 2:52:00 PM  
The deal was funded by billionaire John Ruiz, who has been at the forefront of the NIL movement...

Ruiz is at the forefront of a frenetic moment in the world of college sports, as the lack of clear NCAA guidelines has created a significant amount of uncertainty regarding what is permitted in the NIL space and what isn't. Question marks remain around what this new, unregulated market can sustain among schools that have huge fan bases and rich alumni compared with those that don't, or with those that have yet to dip their toes in the NIL waters.


I'm absolutely shocked that some billionaire chode would use their money to influence recruiting to the more prestigious NCAA programs.
 
2022-04-29 3:36:27 PM  
Good!  Get all you can from the university oligarchs.
 
2022-04-29 3:53:10 PM  
If the NCAA wanted to prevent this, they could have instituted some sort of pay scale across D1 sports.

Instead, they more or less got forced into allowing players to go to the highest bidder. Fark 'em.

/'em being the NCAA.
 
2022-04-29 3:53:36 PM  
Oh, no!  The money makers in a multi billion $ industry want to leverage their worth into more compensation!  You bastards!
 
2022-04-29 3:54:15 PM  
I still can't believe there isn't a pro league somewhere in the world that just takes all of the top athletes in America right out of high school for one year
 
2022-04-29 4:00:50 PM  
Why is this a bad thing?
 
2022-04-29 4:14:01 PM  

Dafatone: If the NCAA wanted to prevent this, they could have instituted some sort of pay scale across D1 sports.

Instead, they more or less got forced into allowing players to go to the highest bidder. Fark 'em.

/'em being the NCAA.


This shiat isn't sustainable, no matter what people think. The NCAA started this idea with no rules because they didn't know what they wanted said rules to be, and now they have to figure out how to reel it all in now that it pretty instantly got way the fark out of control.

Great example being my own college team: how the hell did we just get 5 really good transfer portal signings? I know we needed reloading since half of last year's teams were grads or seniors, but it's not like we or anyone else can just afford to do this every year. And even if we did, what kind of message does it send to established players on the team, signed by Coach Cooley out of high school, when you suddenly bring in a transfer portal signing to bump you one spot down on the roster? That isn't college sports, that's pro league stuff, and I doubt it's what most non-top-tier players signed up for.

College sports - really, all sports lately - are eating themselves to death right now, they just don't want to admit it yet.
 
2022-04-29 4:18:10 PM  
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2022-04-29 4:43:06 PM  

WillofJ2: I still can't believe there isn't a pro league somewhere in the world that just takes all of the top athletes in America right out of high school for one year


There are plenty for the NBA.

Brandon Jennings went to Italy. LaMelo Ball went to Australia. RJ Hampton went to New Zealand. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga came over from the G League Ignite. Jaden Hardy and MarJon Beauchamp are about to do the same. Afernee Simons did a 5th year at IMG.
 
2022-04-29 5:01:43 PM  
This is going to break the NCAA into several payment levels. There's no way that it's sustainable as it is.

/woo!  1st green
 
2022-04-29 5:10:39 PM  

The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: WillofJ2: I still can't believe there isn't a pro league somewhere in the world that just takes all of the top athletes in America right out of high school for one year

There are plenty for the NBA.

Brandon Jennings went to Italy. LaMelo Ball went to Australia. RJ Hampton went to New Zealand. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga came over from the G League Ignite. Jaden Hardy and MarJon Beauchamp are about to do the same. Afernee Simons did a 5th year at IMG.


See also: Top footy leagues

/(Soccer, ya yankee wankers)
//midwestern yankee
///get that quad Pool!
 
2022-04-29 5:19:24 PM  
Okay.

Simple solution.

Standard NIL contract across all NCAA schools. No variations allowed. Everyone gets the same percentage cut for NIL; doesn matter if you're Johnny ManSeal or Joe Schmo OL

Each student/athlete gets a trust fund created where all NIL proceeds are deposited. The trust fund is only accessible by the student/athlete upon...

-Graduation with a 4 year degree
-Leaving to become a Pro player in the sport
-Injury that effectively ends athletic career

QED.
 
2022-04-29 5:24:29 PM  
"If Isaiah and his family don't feel that the NIL number meets their expectations they will be entering the transfer portal tomorrow"

Shiat. This is serious. The whole farking family is threatening to enter the portal.

/Sure hope schools don't make the Wong choice
 
2022-04-29 5:46:03 PM  
The NCAA profited off kids long enough, but the NIL is a disaster waiting to happen.

Since they pushed that though, I am waiting for the actual academic kids in school that do research (which generates billions a year) to look for their own contract to get paid
 
2022-04-29 6:24:25 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Okay.

Simple solution.

Standard NIL contract across all NCAA schools. No variations allowed. Everyone gets the same percentage cut for NIL; doesn matter if you're Johnny ManSeal or Joe Schmo OL

Each student/athlete gets a trust fund created where all NIL proceeds are deposited. The trust fund is only accessible by the student/athlete upon...

-Graduation with a 4 year degree
-Leaving to become a Pro player in the sport
-Injury that effectively ends athletic career

QED.


The problem is that the NCAA took too long to standardize things, and many states have already stepped in and made their own standards. You basically have 50 different rules to follow when it comes to NIL.
 
2022-04-29 6:25:56 PM  

OhioUGrad: The NCAA profited off kids long enough, but the NIL is a disaster waiting to happen.

Since they pushed that though, I am waiting for the actual academic kids in school that do research (which generates billions a year) to look for their own contract to get paid


The already do at Michigan and Michigan State.
 
2022-04-29 8:06:48 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Okay.

Simple solution.

Standard NIL contract across all NCAA schools. No variations allowed. Everyone gets the same percentage cut for NIL; doesn matter if you're Johnny ManSeal or Joe Schmo OL

Each student/athlete gets a trust fund created where all NIL proceeds are deposited. The trust fund is only accessible by the student/athlete upon...

-Graduation with a 4 year degree
-Leaving to become a Pro player in the sport
-Injury that effectively ends athletic career

QED.


If the NCAA pushes against it too hard, they will end up in front of SCOTUS.  And 8 of the 9 justices have already said in a previous opinion they will end amateurism as we know it in revenue college sports.
 
2022-04-29 9:27:10 PM  
I don't understand how this is sustainable. $800,000 for 2 years of a non-NBA prospect for programs whose best years result in a #4 seed?
 
2022-04-29 11:07:24 PM  

The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: The deal was funded by billionaire John Ruiz, who has been at the forefront of the NIL movement...

Ruiz is at the forefront of a frenetic moment in the world of college sports, as the lack of clear NCAA guidelines has created a significant amount of uncertainty regarding what is permitted in the NIL space and what isn't. Question marks remain around what this new, unregulated market can sustain among schools that have huge fan bases and rich alumni compared with those that don't, or with those that have yet to dip their toes in the NIL waters.

I'm absolutely shocked that some billionaire chode would use their money to influence recruiting to the more prestigious NCAA programs.


I'm shocked he wasn't doing it before....oh wait.
 
2022-04-30 3:55:43 AM  
 
2022-04-30 7:40:49 AM  

FLMountainMan: Why is this a bad thing?


Because these players shouldn't be making money! And if they do they shouldn't have access to it.

Them profiting hurts my enjoyment of watching college sports. I want them poor and exploited. The free market is scary.
 
2022-04-30 9:19:57 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Okay.

Simple solution.

Standard NIL contract across all NCAA schools. No variations allowed. Everyone gets the same percentage cut for NIL; doesn matter if you're Johnny ManSeal or Joe Schmo OL

Each student/athlete gets a trust fund created where all NIL proceeds are deposited. The trust fund is only accessible by the student/athlete upon...

-Graduation with a 4 year degree
-Leaving to become a Pro player in the sport
-Injury that effectively ends athletic career

QED.


Not really that simple of a solution.

A. Star players are never going to agree to getting the same as bench warmers.
B. Graduation is a crap shoot for some of these kids. They struggle to keep their grades at an acceptable level.
C. Many leave to become a pro player but really only about 1% achieve that. Do they still get paid? Because anybody can leave after a few years.
D. The likes of Duke, Kentucky, and others are never going to agree to play on the same level as Southwest Podunk State in whatever state.

NIL coming into college athletics is exactly what most sensible people said. It's going to ruin college athletics.
 
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