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2022-04-29 7:08:17 AM  
He saw it coming. Scenario 2,442,305.
 
2022-04-29 7:18:12 AM  
Nice

I'm not a college fan, but I see cornerback/tackle/maybe linebacker as our greatest needs.  Meh, looking at 21 through 28, I don't seen any cornerbacks who are sure things.  There was a short guy without interceptions, and a better athlete who had never played zone. The other O lineman taken was shorter, fatter, and had a ton of penalties and weak technique.

That said, the draft for the Patriots is never in the top ten, and always about getting bodies into camp to compete.

The important thing here is that he keeps the number 69, because Strange 69 will be the hottest jersey ever.
 
2022-04-29 7:26:23 AM  
This draft was projected to be mid-round heavy, once out of the top 10-15 the 1st round talent took a steep dive.  Have to wait and see what they do with the two additional picks they picked up.  For Day 2 they have picks 54, 85 and 94.   That's going to make for a busy day.
 
2022-04-29 8:05:11 AM  
One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.
 
2022-04-29 8:19:42 AM  
I too would like a piece of Strange please and thank you.

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/14,000,605 different ways
 
2022-04-29 8:48:23 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Nice

I'm not a college fan, but I see cornerback/tackle/maybe linebacker as our greatest needs.  Meh, looking at 21 through 28, I don't seen any cornerbacks who are sure things.  There was a short guy without interceptions, and a better athlete who had never played zone. The other O lineman taken was shorter, fatter, and had a ton of penalties and weak technique.

That said, the draft for the Patriots is never in the top ten, and always about getting bodies into camp to compete.

The important thing here is that he keeps the number 69, because Strange 69 will be the hottest jersey ever.


*adjusts tin foil tri-corner hat*

This explains why they traded away Shaq Mason, to free up that uniform number!

/STRANGE 69 will be the best selling OLineman jersey since Damien Woody
 
2022-04-29 9:01:43 AM  
No fair. They trapped Chiefs GM Brett Veach in a time loop until he agreed to the trade.
 
2022-04-29 9:32:22 AM  
Bill needs to be stripped of his draft powers. He could have traded back til he had every 6th round pick and still gotten this guy.
 
2022-04-29 10:26:17 AM  

NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.


Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason
 
2022-04-29 10:33:24 AM  

TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason



You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.
 
2022-04-29 10:36:13 AM  
I blame Nike for hitting the wrong keys.

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2022-04-29 10:51:08 AM  
I hate how much I like the Lions picks.
 
2022-04-29 11:19:25 AM  
OMG!!! The Patriots traded down and took an offensive lineman!!!!  The intrigue!!! The EXCITEMENT!! This monumental event will surely have a profound effect on society for YEARS TO COME!!!
 
2022-04-29 11:19:59 AM  

Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason


You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.


What part of "NE doesn't hit much more than any other good team" did you not understand? At first I thought you were making some sort of point about trading down, but I can't see it. The Pats have picked for need in the 1st round plenty of times, especially since they can't develop WRs. Also they signed a ton of free agents a couple of years ago because of failures in the draft. We need to stop treating Belichick like he's some sort of god-level genius when he's just a good coach who got lucky and had Tom Brady
 
2022-04-29 11:28:13 AM  

TDWCom29: Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason


You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.

What part of "NE doesn't hit much more than any other good team" did you not understand? At first I thought you were making some sort of point about trading down, but I can't see it. The Pats have picked for need in the 1st round plenty of times, especially since they can't develop WRs. Also they signed a ton of free agents a couple of years ago because of failures in the draft. We need to stop treating Belichick like he's some sort of god-level genius when he's just a good coach who got lucky and had Tom Brady


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm

The last few years, they haven't drafted a lot of starters. 

The last top 2 picks (10 total) for last 5 years have 2 consistent starters. 2. Mac Jones and Sony Michel and Michel is gone.
 
2022-04-29 11:34:22 AM  

TDWCom29: Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason


You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.

What part of "NE doesn't hit much more than any other good team" did you not understand? At first I thought you were making some sort of point about trading down, but I can't see it. The Pats have picked for need in the 1st round plenty of times, especially since they can't develop WRs. Also they signed a ton of free agents a couple of years ago because of failures in the draft. We need to stop treating Belichick like he's some sort of god-level genius when he's just a good coach who got lucky and had Tom Brady



My comment is on WHY they can afford to trade down for more picks.
 
2022-04-29 11:41:56 AM  

Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason


You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.

What part of "NE doesn't hit much more than any other good team" did you not understand? At first I thought you were making some sort of point about trading down, but I can't see it. The Pats have picked for need in the 1st round plenty of times, especially since they can't develop WRs. Also they signed a ton of free agents a couple of years ago because of failures in the draft. We need to stop treating Belichick like he's some sort of god-level genius when he's just a good coach who got lucky and had Tom Brady


My comment is on WHY they can afford to trade down for more picks.


And your reasoning is way off. The Patriots do draft for need, and they do sign free agents to cover up draft failures. Which another poster was kind enough to remind me just how much failure there's been lately. You can see why it's confusing for you to say that
 
2022-04-29 11:43:33 AM  

LL316: I hate how much I like the Lions picks.


I hear people complain that they are drafting WRs but the qb is Goof, as if they actually believe he is going to be a long term lions qb. If there was a great qb choice this draft, the lions would've taken him, but this rebuild to fix what Patricia absolutely destroyed will take at least another year.
 
2022-04-29 11:56:36 AM  

phimuskapsi: TDWCom29: Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason


You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.

What part of "NE doesn't hit much more than any other good team" did you not understand? At first I thought you were making some sort of point about trading down, but I can't see it. The Pats have picked for need in the 1st round plenty of times, especially since they can't develop WRs. Also they signed a ton of free agents a couple of years ago because of failures in the draft. We need to stop treating Belichick like he's some sort of god-level genius when he's just a good coach who got lucky and had Tom Brady

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm

The last few years, they haven't drafted a lot of starters. 

The last top 2 picks (10 total) for last 5 years have 2 consistent starters. 2. Mac Jones and Sony Michel and Michel is gone.


Michel was such a weird out of character pick, probably the only pick I couldn't even justify with my homer brain.  For context, I even had some initial hope for N'Keal Harry.
 
2022-04-29 12:37:57 PM  

LL316: I hate how much I like the Lions picks.


Anytime you can grab a speed guy coming off major knee surgery, you gotta make that pick.
 
2022-04-29 1:07:23 PM  
Ker_Thwap:

Michel was such a weird out of character pick, probably the only pick I couldn't even justify with my homer brain.  For context, I even had some initial hope for N'Keal Harry.

Since you are a Pats fan, you might actually know this without my looking it up. What happened to the Pats front office in 2012/2013? Because the last 'great' draft the Pats had seems to be 2012 (Jones, Hightower, Wilson Ebner).
 
2022-04-29 1:12:34 PM  

phimuskapsi: Ker_Thwap:

Michel was such a weird out of character pick, probably the only pick I couldn't even justify with my homer brain.  For context, I even had some initial hope for N'Keal Harry.

Since you are a Pats fan, you might actually know this without my looking it up. What happened to the Pats front office in 2012/2013? Because the last 'great' draft the Pats had seems to be 2012 (Jones, Hightower, Wilson Ebner).


John Thomas Robinson
 
2022-04-29 1:26:24 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: John Thomas Robinson


Ah, I looked up his Wiki, Director of College scouting and now Titans GM. That could definitely do it.
 
2022-04-29 2:39:04 PM  

It Smee: LL316: I hate how much I like the Lions picks.

Anytime you can grab a speed guy coming off major knee surgery, you gotta make that pick.


An out-patient, 2 hour procedure that doesn't even require stitches to seal up the tiny incisions isn't "major surgery".
 
2022-04-29 2:52:13 PM  

NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.


*offer not applicable for wide receivers
 
2022-04-29 2:53:58 PM  

meanmutton: It Smee: LL316: I hate how much I like the Lions picks.

Anytime you can grab a speed guy coming off major knee surgery, you gotta make that pick.

An out-patient, 2 hour procedure that doesn't even require stitches to seal up the tiny incisions isn't "major surgery".


And yet, there's still roughly a one year recovery window, and sometimes people still never really return to what they were before the ACL went. From the standpoint of being a professional athlete, it's still kind of a big deal.
 
2022-04-29 5:05:47 PM  

phimuskapsi: The last few years, they haven't drafted a lot of starters. 

The last top 2 picks (10 total) for last 5 years have 2 consistent starters. 2. Mac Jones and Sony Michel and Michel is gone.


I know it's reading a lot into it, but it almost feels like DH is working off a plan that he's hopelessly behind on, that he's working on 2020 problems instead of the glaring problems of 2021. Of course it could just be the established fact that he HATES the very existence of a secondary and refuses to fix those glaring issues. (Like it's the front 7's fault that Josh Allen has time to dismantle them, you can't expect a SECONDARY to do anything, right?)
 
2022-04-29 8:39:47 PM  
A farking GUARD. We' not talking Quenton Nelson here either. Lol.

Debate it all you want.
 
2022-04-29 10:47:45 PM  
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2022-04-30 9:14:19 AM  

phimuskapsi: TDWCom29: Leader O'Cola: TDWCom29: NewportBarGuy: One of Bill's great talents is finding amazing picks that no one else values properly. So, I'm going to just assume this guy is going to be a great addition.

Eh, the Patriots hit rate on draft picks isn't that much different than other good teams. The thing they do that's smart is they load up on draft picks so they have more chances to hit. It's something I wish my team (Steelers) would do more often, but they seem loathe to trade down for whatever reason


You can do that when your coach(es) are scheme adaptive and flexible.  Take the BPA and retool your scheme to use him.  If you have too many players at that position you trade them for picks or don't resign them in FA.

You can't do that when your coaches are scheme dogmatic, and inflexible.  There you have to opt for a 2 or 3 way choice at your pick of best player at a position of need, hope it hits, and when it doesn't play salary cap magic on aging vets so you can bandaid a fix in FA.

What part of "NE doesn't hit much more than any other good team" did you not understand? At first I thought you were making some sort of point about trading down, but I can't see it. The Pats have picked for need in the 1st round plenty of times, especially since they can't develop WRs. Also they signed a ton of free agents a couple of years ago because of failures in the draft. We need to stop treating Belichick like he's some sort of god-level genius when he's just a good coach who got lucky and had Tom Brady

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm

The last few years, they haven't drafted a lot of starters. 

The last top 2 picks (10 total) for last 5 years have 2 consistent starters. 2. Mac Jones and Sony Michel and Michel is gone.


Barmore, JC Jackson, Damien Harris
 
2022-04-30 9:18:30 AM  
Wait, they didn't draft Jackson
 
2022-04-30 4:24:58 PM  

jaylectricity: Barmore, JC Jackson, Damien Harris


Barmore I missed, but Jackson and Damien don't qualify under my qualifier of top 2 over the last 5 years.
 
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