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2022-04-27 11:07:33 AM  
"Never believe that [conservatives] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The [conservatives] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert."
 
2022-04-27 11:15:55 AM  
Damn, that guy has a weirdly shaped skull.

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Also, male pattern baldness.

But I'm sure all those billions buys a lot of hair plugs and personal stylists.
 
2022-04-27 11:17:32 AM  
Oh please, this story doesn't mean Elon Musk is a hypocrite; He believes that Twitter should be a place of free expression where all multi-billionaires can find the identity of their critics and threaten their lives and livelihoods until to make them shut up about their shady dealings.
 
2022-04-27 11:21:42 AM  
Musk is currently the richest person in the world. He started the 1%'s dick-measuring contest that is privatization of the space race. He's not doing ANY damned thing in the interest of anyone other than himself. The dude made some very successful gambles but seems to think that means he's a) the smartest guy in the room, b) beyond reproach. He's essentially a (slightly) smarter Donnie2Poops in the making with better hair plugs.

That being said, Twitter is a company. If he wants to buy it and turn it into a cesspool of self-aggrandizement he can. There is no legal recourse to "protect" Twitter from being bought out and turned private. And there shouldn't be. Twitter is not the, "new town square." It's not a government entity by any measure. The truth is that the 1st Amendment means absolutely fark all on the site, as a result.

TLDR: Musk is a piece of shiat and I don't care who owns Twitter.
 
2022-04-27 11:26:54 AM  
I mean, Twitter has an infrastructure in place already. What's he really gonna do? Just walk in and say un-ban everyone? I mean I wouldn't put it past him. What he'll more likely do is un-ban a few notable figures and tell them to ease up restrictions. I mean...of course nazis and incels will flood back to the site, and most rational people are already leaving en masse. 

I mean, this is the typical billionaire kid. Turning $100 in to $40 real quick.
 
2022-04-27 11:28:49 AM  
Twitter can probably only get worse, not better. Worse will mean less profit. He's good at making money.

This is EXACTLY the approach TFG (another snowflake) would take if he had any money. Instead, he's gone the cheapo route trying to use other people's money to build a new one from the ground up, an idea tha can never succeed. When you screen out half the potential customers up front, you aren't going to make money.
 
2022-04-27 11:36:09 AM  
Musk is a problem disguised as a solution. Twitter has a disinformation problem - fake news about Covid vaccines, climate and more. He has shown himself to be a n enthusiastic peddler of bogus claims, like misleading financial information or calling the British diver who helped rescue trapped schoolboys in Thailand a "pedo guy."

"Free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated," Musk said in his announcement of the deal. But his version of 'free speech' conflates harassment with criticism. There is a substantial difference between the two.

Musk looks to unleash bile, bigotry, bullying and disinformation, and possibly starting at noon on Jan. 20, 2025, could become a flood toward racist authoritarianism and a continuing slide away from liberal democracy.

But who knows, I could be all wrong.


But I doubt it.
 
2022-04-27 11:44:29 AM  
This is going to be a real shiatshow.

This isn't going to work the way anyone wants or expects it to. Not Musk, not the MAGAts, not the Twitter users, not the not Twitter users.

Censoring isn't going to work, not censoring isn't going to work. People are going to loose a lot of money. Things are going to end up in court.

get the popcorn
 
2022-04-27 11:44:33 AM  
Elon Musk strikes me as a modern incarnation of Edison. He steals ideas from others and puts his own name on it.
Then sues you if you point out that he's not a creator, he's a mooch.
 
2022-04-27 11:52:11 AM  
I do not have free speech if someone has the power to call me out.
 
2022-04-27 11:56:52 AM  

Saiga410: I do not have free speech if someone has the power to call me out.


You have freedom of speech as long as the goverment can't arrest you for something you said.

Loosing your job? Your wife? Your position in society? Any other consequences for something you said?

That's just the consequences for something you said.

/FA? FO.
 
2022-04-27 11:56:52 AM  
If completely unmoderated speech is so great, why aren't all these farkers on 4Chan?
 
2022-04-27 11:58:15 AM  

Saiga410: I do not have free speech if someone has the power to call me out.


That's kind of what free speech is.  You say something, I say something, you can still say something even if I think what you're saying is stupid.
 
2022-04-27 12:03:06 PM  
Not an Elon fanboi, but I gotta give the guy credit for starting PayPal, Tesla and SpaceX. These technologies changed finance, transportation and space exploration. So, bravo.

I do think he's ridiculous for buying Twitter, as the site will degenerate into TwitChan and eventually have the fates of social media companies like digg and del.icio.us. I deleted my account as soon as the sale was announced. Don't miss it.
 
2022-04-27 12:08:59 PM  
He's going to make Twitter better. A place where discussion, exchange of ideas and tolerance goes to die. Even if you do get rid of all the bots. Good frikin' luck pal. You should focus more on Teslas randomly catching fire while parked overnight. Hit a tall speed bump hard? That's a burning. And even the fire dept. can't put it out. They just keep it from burning other things, park it somewhere for 3 or 4 days and then approach it like it's a nuclear bomb about to be defused.
 
2022-04-27 12:09:07 PM  

fat_free: Not an Elon fanboi, but I gotta give the guy credit for starting PayPal, Tesla and SpaceX. These technologies changed finance, transportation and space exploration. So, bravo.

I do think he's ridiculous for buying Twitter, as the site will degenerate into TwitChan and eventually have the fates of social media companies like digg and del.icio.us. I deleted my account as soon as the sale was announced. Don't miss it.


Paypal was founded by Peter Thiel, Luke Nosek and Max Levchin. Musk came in when PayPal merged with x.com.

Tesla was founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. Musk came in as a $6.5 million investor.
 
2022-04-27 12:15:11 PM  

brokenbiscuits: He started the 1%'s dick-measuring contest that is privatization of the space race.


And won it, too.
 
2022-04-27 12:21:38 PM  

JessieL: fat_free: Not an Elon fanboi, but I gotta give the guy credit for starting PayPal, Tesla and SpaceX. These technologies changed finance, transportation and space exploration. So, bravo.

I do think he's ridiculous for buying Twitter, as the site will degenerate into TwitChan and eventually have the fates of social media companies like digg and del.icio.us. I deleted my account as soon as the sale was announced. Don't miss it.

Paypal was founded by Peter Thiel, Luke Nosek and Max Levchin. Musk came in when PayPal merged with x.com.

Tesla was founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. Musk came in as a $6.5 million investor.


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2022-04-27 12:23:57 PM  

brokenbiscuits: Musk is currently the richest person in the world. He started the 1%'s dick-measuring contest that is privatization of the space race.


That was Jeff Bezos with Blue Origin, two years before SpaceX.

All this is like when people claimed Steve Jobs invented the MP3 player and smartphones.
 
2022-04-27 12:27:26 PM  
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2022-04-27 12:33:04 PM  

JessieL: brokenbiscuits: Musk is currently the richest person in the world. He started the 1%'s dick-measuring contest that is privatization of the space race.

That was Jeff Bezos with Blue Origin, two years before SpaceX.

All this is like when people claimed Steve Jobs invented the MP3 player and smartphones.


Oh wait, before that Paul Allen funded Scaled Composites' building of SpaceShipOne.
 
2022-04-27 12:40:23 PM  
Have the government sieze twitter and make it a safe speech platform.

Problem solved.
 
2022-04-27 12:40:50 PM  

JessieL: JessieL: brokenbiscuits: Musk is currently the richest person in the world. He started the 1%'s dick-measuring contest that is privatization of the space race.

That was Jeff Bezos with Blue Origin, two years before SpaceX.

All this is like when people claimed Steve Jobs invented the MP3 player and smartphones.

Oh wait, before that Paul Allen funded Scaled Composites' building of SpaceShipOne.


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2022-04-27 12:59:25 PM  

gopher321: Damn, that guy has a weirdly shaped skull.

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Also, male pattern baldness.

But I'm sure all those billions buys a lot of hair plugs and personal stylists.


Dealing with MPB without a billion dollars, builds character, this is the proof I expected.
 
2022-04-27 1:14:59 PM  
gunsmack:
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Look at the size of that boy's head.
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2022-04-27 1:34:58 PM  
I haven't been to this dump in years but had to check in to see how high the salt has been piled up since Musk bought twitter and I'm not disappointed. How dare he buy your echo chamber! Now where are you going to virtue signal about equality, tolerance, and inclusivity all while banning doxing, and canceling people who dont agree with you? All he is doing is "levelling the playing field." You libiots would swoon and cream your jeans when Barry used to say that. But now you're butthurt. What are you so afraid of, if your ideas are sound they'll stand up to scrutiny. You should welcome that. Besides you still have Fark and Reddit as your spare echo chamber circle jerk safe spaces. But its hilarious how shook you all over this and coming up with all these doomsday scenarios and of course bringing Godwins Law into full effect as well as Snow-Jay Simpson aka Shaun King playing the race card. You puds are hilarious! REEEEEEEEEEEE!
 
2022-04-27 1:38:46 PM  

Trollomite: I haven't been to this dump in years but had to check in to see how high the salt has been piled up since Musk bought twitter and I'm not disappointed. How dare he buy your echo chamber! Now where are you going to virtue signal about equality, tolerance, and inclusivity all while banning doxing, and canceling people who dont agree with you? All he is doing is "levelling the playing field." You libiots would swoon and cream your jeans when Barry used to say that. But now you're butthurt. What are you so afraid of, if your ideas are sound they'll stand up to scrutiny. You should welcome that. Besides you still have Fark and Reddit as your spare echo chamber circle jerk safe spaces. But its hilarious how shook you all over this and coming up with all these doomsday scenarios and of course bringing Godwins Law into full effect as well as Snow-Jay Simpson aka Shaun King playing the race card. You puds are hilarious! REEEEEEEEEEEE!


Your meds are in the pantry.  Please go take them.
 
2022-04-27 1:43:09 PM  

A Cave Geek: Trollomite: I haven't been to this dump in years but had to check in to see how high the salt has been piled up since Musk bought twitter and I'm not disappointed. How dare he buy your echo chamber! Now where are you going to virtue signal about equality, tolerance, and inclusivity all while banning doxing, and canceling people who dont agree with you? All he is doing is "levelling the playing field." You libiots would swoon and cream your jeans when Barry used to say that. But now you're butthurt. What are you so afraid of, if your ideas are sound they'll stand up to scrutiny. You should welcome that. Besides you still have Fark and Reddit as your spare echo chamber circle jerk safe spaces. But its hilarious how shook you all over this and coming up with all these doomsday scenarios and of course bringing Godwins Law into full effect as well as Snow-Jay Simpson aka Shaun King playing the race card. You puds are hilarious! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Your meds are in the pantry.  Please go take them.


* yawn * I bet everyone of you little whiners on here have taken all your anxiety meds for the month already. You really think this is the end of the world but Twitter isnt a real place.  Your little woke crusade is coming to end. You overreached and no one cares about your feelings skid mark. If you don't like it then sTaRt YoUr oWn TwItTeR. It must be pretty easy, you just told other people a few years ago to do it. Now sack up and follow your own advice princess
 
2022-04-27 1:44:29 PM  
"Free speech" and "Consequence-free speech" are not the same thing.
 
2022-04-27 1:48:19 PM  
Trollomite:

You spend a lot of words to not say anything. You're boring.
 
2022-04-27 1:56:28 PM  

Trollomite: A Cave Geek: Trollomite: I haven't been to this dump in years but had to check in to see how high the salt has been piled up since Musk bought twitter and I'm not disappointed. How dare he buy your echo chamber! Now where are you going to virtue signal about equality, tolerance, and inclusivity all while banning doxing, and canceling people who dont agree with you? All he is doing is "levelling the playing field." You libiots would swoon and cream your jeans when Barry used to say that. But now you're butthurt. What are you so afraid of, if your ideas are sound they'll stand up to scrutiny. You should welcome that. Besides you still have Fark and Reddit as your spare echo chamber circle jerk safe spaces. But its hilarious how shook you all over this and coming up with all these doomsday scenarios and of course bringing Godwins Law into full effect as well as Snow-Jay Simpson aka Shaun King playing the race card. You puds are hilarious! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Your meds are in the pantry.  Please go take them.

* yawn * I bet everyone of you little whiners on here have taken all your anxiety meds for the month already. You really think this is the end of the world but Twitter isnt a real place.  Your little woke crusade is coming to end. You overreached and no one cares about your feelings skid mark. If you don't like it then sTaRt YoUr oWn TwItTeR. It must be pretty easy, you just told other people a few years ago to do it. Now sack up and follow your own advice princess


I've never been on twitter. Not on facebook anymore either. Never even seen instagram.

It seems I farkied you correctly as:  "Mom's basement tough guy."
 
2022-04-27 2:19:54 PM  
Hey, remember when Elon Musk canceled a paying customer's Tesla order because the customer was 'rude'?

Totally a crusader for freedom of speech, and not just a pathetic man-child who was handed everything he's ever "earned" on a silver platter, and wants to control peoples' ability to criticize him.
 
2022-04-27 2:40:18 PM  

LordJiro: Hey, remember when Elon Musk canceled a paying customer's Tesla order because the customer was 'rude'?

Totally a crusader for freedom of speech, and not just a pathetic man-child who was handed everything he's ever "earned" on a silver platter, and wants to control peoples' ability to criticize him.



never underestimate the desire of most murcans to stick their tongues up billionaire asses.

most murcans believe that one day they too will be wealthy.   the poor dumb bastards.
 
2022-04-27 3:49:29 PM  
After the phone call, Fossi told his employer he would stop writing at Seeking Alpha and deactivate his Twitter account. He stated that while Musk had no valid claim, "I'm not going to drag my boss into a lawsuit he shouldn't have any part of."

Musk forced this guy to quit his job, and delete his twitter account. Musk is like some wicked mafia boss.
 
2022-04-27 5:27:17 PM  
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2022-04-27 7:20:03 PM  

LordJiro: Hey, remember when Elon Musk canceled a paying customer's Tesla order because the customer was 'rude'?

Totally a crusader for freedom of speech, and not just a pathetic man-child who was handed everything he's ever "earned" on a silver platter, and wants to control peoples' ability to criticize him.


Trending the past 5 years.
 
2022-04-27 7:41:15 PM  
Buttsmacked lefties are absolutely terrified now that they can't control the message anymore.

It's absolutely wonderful.
 
2022-04-27 7:54:11 PM  

zgrizz: Buttsmacked lefties are absolutely terrified now that they can't control the message anymore.

It's absolutely wonderful.


Delusions like yours are.

To you.
 
2022-04-27 8:20:09 PM  

zgrizz: Buttsmacked lefties are absolutely terrified now that they can't control the message anymore.

It's absolutely wonderful.


I'm thrilled.

Elon's while fortune is built on over inflated Tesla stock due to a cult of personality that's sprouted up amount the same morons who think NFTs are a great investment.

He'll tank the whole thing because having an unrestricted platform will let him say the stuff that's too stupid to ignore.

Meanwhile, TFG will jump back on Twitter and see the same effect.

Basic rules of civility have only helped these egomaniacs, because they're too dumb not to talk themselves off a cliff without them.
 
2022-04-27 9:53:31 PM  

brokenbiscuits: Musk is currently the richest person in the world. He started the 1%'s dick-measuring contest that is privatization of the space race. He's not doing ANY damned thing in the interest of anyone other than himself. The dude made some very successful gambles but seems to think that means he's a) the smartest guy in the room, b) beyond reproach. He's essentially a (slightly) smarter Donnie2Poops in the making with better hair plugs.

That being said, Twitter is a company. If he wants to buy it and turn it into a cesspool of self-aggrandizement he can. There is no legal recourse to "protect" Twitter from being bought out and turned private. And there shouldn't be. Twitter is not the, "new town square." It's not a government entity by any measure. The truth is that the 1st Amendment means absolutely fark all on the site, as a result.

TLDR: Musk is a piece of shiat and I don't care who owns Twitter.


Can't really disagree with what you said, but it does really seem like there should be a government backed forum for the virtual town square. For actual free speech.
 
2022-04-27 9:59:21 PM  

Trollomite: A Cave Geek: Trollomite: I haven't been to this dump in years but had to check in to see how high the salt has been piled up since Musk bought twitter and I'm not disappointed. How dare he buy your echo chamber! Now where are you going to virtue signal about equality, tolerance, and inclusivity all while banning doxing, and canceling people who dont agree with you? All he is doing is "levelling the playing field." You libiots would swoon and cream your jeans when Barry used to say that. But now you're butthurt. What are you so afraid of, if your ideas are sound they'll stand up to scrutiny. You should welcome that. Besides you still have Fark and Reddit as your spare echo chamber circle jerk safe spaces. But its hilarious how shook you all over this and coming up with all these doomsday scenarios and of course bringing Godwins Law into full effect as well as Snow-Jay Simpson aka Shaun King playing the race card. You puds are hilarious! REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Your meds are in the pantry.  Please go take them.

* yawn * I bet everyone of you little whiners on here have taken all your anxiety meds for the month already. You really think this is the end of the world but Twitter isnt a real place.  Your little woke crusade is coming to end. You overreached and no one cares about your feelings skid mark. If you don't like it then sTaRt YoUr oWn TwItTeR. It must be pretty easy, you just told other people a few years ago to do it. Now sack up and follow your own advice princess


thatsuhbait.bmp
 
2022-04-28 9:39:04 AM  

JessieL: zgrizz: Buttsmacked lefties are absolutely terrified now that they can't control the message anymore.

It's absolutely wonderful.

I'm thrilled.

Elon's while fortune is built on over inflated Tesla stock due to a cult of personality that's sprouted up amount the same morons who think NFTs are a great investment.

He'll tank the whole thing because having an unrestricted platform will let him say the stuff that's too stupid to ignore.

Meanwhile, TFG will jump back on Twitter and see the same effect.

Basic rules of civility have only helped these egomaniacs, because they're too dumb not to talk themselves off a cliff without them.


This. The absolute BEST case scenario for Musk and Twitter is the status quo. Actually doing what he says he wants to do would destroy Twitter. He says he wants to turn it into Gab, with you having to pay for the privilege of diving into that sewer.

Of course, if he doesn't stop shiat-talking Twitter and thus risking violating the agreement, he might end up not even actually owning it.
 
2022-04-28 11:37:19 AM  

fat_free: Not an Elon fanboi, but I gotta give the guy credit for starting PayPal, Tesla and SpaceX. These technologies changed finance, transportation and space exploration. So, bravo.


Did you know that I started VW?  Yeah, check out the car in my driveway.

He started one of those three companies (and isn't the talent behind it).  The other two he bought with his family's emerald mine money.  He's a lucky investor, not an innovator.
 
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