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(CBS4Denver - KCNC)   If you steal some engineering prototype bicycles worth over $80,000, probably not a good idea to walk into into local bike shop with the unique looking two-wheeler ... along with "bolt cutters sticking out of his backpack"   (denver.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2022-04-07 10:40:23 PM  
I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.
 
2022-04-07 11:00:16 PM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


No whipping first?
 
2022-04-07 11:01:22 PM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


Seconded.
 
2022-04-07 11:02:06 PM  
"It was like that when I got there."
 
2022-04-07 11:07:10 PM  
Interesting, I watched a video about the development of that kind of gearing system. The person in the video was lamenting that it had died out, interesting that someone is trying to revive it!
 
2022-04-07 11:08:32 PM  
How should I secure my $80,000.00 bicycle?

I guess I'll just get the cheapest lock at the Ace Hardware store. Oops, a wandering crackhead with boltcutters stole it. Never could have seen that coming.
 
2022-04-07 11:09:06 PM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


Anything stolen steals time from your life, whether the time it took you to earn enough to buy it, the time it takes to replace it, or the time it reminded you of friends or family.
 
2022-04-07 11:11:09 PM  

JRoo: How should I secure my $80,000.00 bicycle?

I guess I'll just get the cheapest lock at the Ace Hardware store. Oops, a wandering crackhead with boltcutters stole it. Never could have seen that coming.


"She shouldn't have worn that short skirt"
 
2022-04-07 11:12:43 PM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


I have also had a bike stolen, from my garage.

I agree. Or at the very least a savage baseball bat beatdown
 
2022-04-07 11:13:04 PM  

Boojum2k: Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.

Anything stolen steals time from your life, whether the time it took you to earn enough to buy it, the time it takes to replace it, or the time it reminded you of friends or family.


If you can ever find a copy, this a great book about stealing time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momo_(novel)

From the author of The Neverending Story.

/he died in the 90's, so no kindle license
//I buy paperback copies when I can find them
 
2022-04-07 11:18:59 PM  
They were " High End " bikes ... Should lower that seat a bit ..
 
2022-04-07 11:23:54 PM  
I thought it was going to be a Reevo hubless bike (https://www.reevobikes.com/ )
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Those things just "look" like the future.
 
2022-04-07 11:25:32 PM  

tdyak: I thought it was going to be a Reevo hubless bike (https://www.reevobikes.com/ )
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Those things just "look" like the future.


Looks like the South Park IT bike =)
 
2022-04-07 11:26:33 PM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


Often the horse was necessary to plow the fields.  Losing your horse could mean you couldn't grow enough food for your family.
 
2022-04-07 11:29:57 PM  
Don't steal things you don't know how to fence. Weird bike with custom gear? Pass! But if you were as creative about business as you are about getting your fix, you wouldn't be stealing bikes.
 
2022-04-07 11:29:59 PM  

mikalmd: They were " High End " bikes ... Should lower that seat a bit ..


It also implies "Classy." Just like this thread.
 
2022-04-07 11:30:29 PM  
Neighbors say 'He was shy, a little withdrawn maybe.'

His backyard:
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2022-04-07 11:31:57 PM  
Behold, the bike of the Gods!

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2022-04-07 11:36:09 PM  

OgreMagi: Often the horse was necessary to plow the fields.  Losing your horse could mean you couldn't grow enough food for your family.


The horse wasn't just for farming - the horse was carrying goods, or talking to the next town, or everything we use cars to do, today. The horse was yours means of making a living. That's why horse thieves were so harshly punished.

So yeah, I am all for someone being punished for stealing a bike, because that might be that person's means of making a living. And working bikes are expensive these days.
 
2022-04-07 11:53:29 PM  
One thing is for certain. Verbosity.
 
2022-04-07 11:56:49 PM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


No, I don't believe in the death penalty under any circumstances.  Just take the seat off and make the crook ride it that way for a couple hundred miles.
 
2022-04-08 12:01:40 AM  

robodog: Interesting, I watched a video about the development of that kind of gearing system. The person in the video was lamenting that it had died out, interesting that someone is trying to revive it!


I'm not familiar with it, but it's easy to see how it works. Looks like it would need tough, stiff materials and precise manufacturing. Great is someone can pull it off.
 
2022-04-08 12:40:39 AM  
When my house was broken into years ago, they stole my watch collection, which included a "high-end" fake Vacheron Constantin that I bought in South Korea for $200.

The cop asked if it would stand out if someone tried to pawn it and I said, "Well, it's a very well done fake, but a good pawn shop owner would probably figure that out. Plus, if it were real, it would sell for $60K, and there are maybe ten people in the US with one."

Then, he declined my request to call the Crime Lab to come over and dust for fingerprints.
 
2022-04-08 12:43:35 AM  

Lsherm: If you can ever find a copy, this a great book about stealing time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momo_(novel)

From the author of The Neverending Story.

/he died in the 90's, so no kindle license
//I buy paperback copies when I can find them


"The full title in German (Momo oder Die seltsame Geschichte von den Zeit-Dieben und von dem Kind, das den Menschen die gestohlene Zeit zurückbrachte) translates to Momo"

/couldn't help but to laugh at this bit
 
2022-04-08 12:56:21 AM  

knbwhite: robodog: Interesting, I watched a video about the development of that kind of gearing system. The person in the video was lamenting that it had died out, interesting that someone is trying to revive it!

I'm not familiar with it, but it's easy to see how it works. Looks like it would need tough, stiff materials and precise manufacturing. Great is someone can pull it off.


Yeah, it made the rounds on some tech forums a few years ago. No more efficient than a conventional chain, while requiring higher (more expensive) tolerances, and more sensitivity to dirt and water. Oh yeah, maybe this changed, but at the time they couldn't explain how they were going to change gears.

What's not to love?
 
2022-04-08 1:23:05 AM  

knbwhite: I'm not familiar with it, but it's easy to see how it works. Looks like it would need tough, stiff materials and precise manufacturing. Great is someone can pull it off.


I'd wonder what happens if it gets dirty.

DaAlien: Yeah, it made the rounds on some tech forums a few years ago. No more efficient than a conventional chain, while requiring higher (more expensive) tolerances, and more sensitivity to dirt and water. Oh yeah, maybe this changed, but at the time they couldn't explain how they were going to change gears.


I think you slide the connector along that disk, different spots have different gearing ratios.


This story worries me.  He walked into the bike shop with bolt cutters still visible.  Either he's an utter moron or this is something he expected to get away with--the bike shop owner only called the cops because he realized those were prototypes that would draw police interest and couldn't be sold.
 
2022-04-08 1:42:14 AM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


They should receive a free treatment to help their fingers be less sticky.

Said treatment consists of breaking or dislocating all 28 bones in the fingers.
 
2022-04-08 2:03:55 AM  
I think I've been playing Elden Ring too much.

I say: Let the thief have your bike.
Forever.
Surgically graft his hands to the handles and his feet to the pedals.
 
2022-04-08 4:12:48 AM  

JRoo: How should I secure my $80,000.00 bicycle?

I guess I'll just get the cheapest lock at the Ace Hardware store. Oops, a wandering crackhead with boltcutters stole it. Never could have seen that coming.


You need to go to YouTube and watch one of those lockpicking guys. You'll quickly realized how megafarked your opinion is.

I just can't get past they happened to stumble into success and they are breaking their wrists jerking themselves off over this.
 
2022-04-08 6:38:28 AM  

Lsherm: Boojum2k: Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.

Anything stolen steals time from your life, whether the time it took you to earn enough to buy it, the time it takes to replace it, or the time it reminded you of friends or family.

If you can ever find a copy, this a great book about stealing time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momo_(novel)

From the author of The Neverending Story.

/he died in the 90's, so no kindle license
//I buy paperback copies when I can find them


Huh... that is a thing that I did not know about.  I shall now have to be on the lookout - thank you kindly
 
2022-04-08 8:18:25 AM  

HoratioGates: Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.

No, I don't believe in the death penalty under any circumstances.  Just take the seat off and make the crook ride it that way for a couple hundred miles.


Boltcutters. Use them to remove a finger.

/s
 
2022-04-08 8:56:31 AM  

Loren: knbwhite: I'm not familiar with it, but it's easy to see how it works. Looks like it would need tough, stiff materials and precise manufacturing. Great is someone can pull it off.

I'd wonder what happens if it gets dirty.

DaAlien: Yeah, it made the rounds on some tech forums a few years ago. No more efficient than a conventional chain, while requiring higher (more expensive) tolerances, and more sensitivity to dirt and water. Oh yeah, maybe this changed, but at the time they couldn't explain how they were going to change gears.

I think you slide the connector along that disk, different spots have different gearing ratios.


Yes, but *how*? The shaft would have to change lengths for the rear gear to contact the different disks. That implies it's gonna be two concentric shafts where one slides in and out. Even more fine-tolerance stuff which is gonna be susceptible as hell to contaminants. And you'd need a mechanism for moving the end gear from one disk to another. None of which they showed when this was all over the place a few years ago.
 
2022-04-08 8:58:13 AM  

tdyak: I thought it was going to be a Reevo hubless bike (https://www.reevobikes.com/ )
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Those things just "look" like the future.


Hmm, those lines look somewhat familiar:

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2022-04-08 9:14:16 AM  

rohar: tdyak: I thought it was going to be a Reevo hubless bike (https://www.reevobikes.com/ )
[Fark user image 425x283]

[Fark user image 275x183]

Those things just "look" like the future.

Hmm, those lines look somewhat familiar:

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I would be interested to see how strong those wheels are.   I have bent wheels on bikes before and at that price point they should take a HUGE beating.
 
2022-04-08 9:15:45 AM  

DaAlien: Loren: knbwhite: I'm not familiar with it, but it's easy to see how it works. Looks like it would need tough, stiff materials and precise manufacturing. Great is someone can pull it off.

I'd wonder what happens if it gets dirty.

DaAlien: Yeah, it made the rounds on some tech forums a few years ago. No more efficient than a conventional chain, while requiring higher (more expensive) tolerances, and more sensitivity to dirt and water. Oh yeah, maybe this changed, but at the time they couldn't explain how they were going to change gears.

I think you slide the connector along that disk, different spots have different gearing ratios.

Yes, but *how*? The shaft would have to change lengths for the rear gear to contact the different disks. That implies it's gonna be two concentric shafts where one slides in and out. Even more fine-tolerance stuff which is gonna be susceptible as hell to contaminants. And you'd need a mechanism for moving the end gear from one disk to another. None of which they showed when this was all over the place a few years ago.


Wow, the timing on that one was interesting :)

How?  Probably the same way the lefty shock on the Cannondale Super V I just posted works.  Lefty "forks" only have one leg, compared to the pair of legs on every other fork.  So that one leg has to handle all of the torsion two legs normally do.  Seems like a terrible idea, but you get a lot more suspension travel without changing rider geometry.

Inside that round fork is a square shaft and a pile of needle bearings.  It's all rigid aluminum (or titanium or carbon fiber on some models) so it performs very well, much less flex than common suspension forks.

But as pointed out with the shaft gearing idea, maintenance is an issue.  The bearing races wear, and sometimes move around a bit so the fork has to be "reset" about once a year.  Not a huge pain, but it's maintainance:

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2022-04-08 9:21:24 AM  

tdyak: rohar: tdyak: I thought it was going to be a Reevo hubless bike (https://www.reevobikes.com/ )
[Fark user image 425x283]

[Fark user image 275x183]

Those things just "look" like the future.

Hmm, those lines look somewhat familiar:

[i.pinimg.com image 850x566]

I would be interested to see how strong those wheels are.   I have bent wheels on bikes before and at that price point they should take a HUGE beating.


Yeah, that's my thought too.  Without spokes, the rims are gonna have to be fairly beefy.  Especially since the load point on the front wheel is at the top.  If they'd have put a fork on the thing and set the load point on the front wheel to the bottom, you'd never bend the front wheel.

Not sure that's an option with the rear given how the drive interfaces with the wheel.
 
2022-04-08 9:48:04 AM  

Snort: No whipping first?


I don't know about hanging, but here's a helpful photo of what the whipping post might look like:
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2022-04-08 10:21:30 AM  
With helpful image of what a prototype bicycle may look like:

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2022-04-08 10:41:44 AM  

Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.


The bike theft is often the young idealist's first taste of capitalist rage.  Oh it's MY thing that got taken, well that's different. KILL THE POOR.
 
2022-04-08 10:50:23 AM  

noitsnot: Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.

The bike theft is often the young idealist's first taste of capitalist rage.  Oh it's MY thing that got taken, well that's different. KILL THE POOR.


There's no evidence the bike thief was poor. And that bike was so expensive he certainly wasn't after the theft.

I said kill the bike thief, not the poor.
 
2022-04-08 11:02:34 AM  
Fake news, cops never care about bike thefts.
 
2022-04-08 11:07:47 AM  

DaAlien: knbwhite: robodog: Interesting, I watched a video about the development of that kind of gearing system. The person in the video was lamenting that it had died out, interesting that someone is trying to revive it!

I'm not familiar with it, but it's easy to see how it works. Looks like it would need tough, stiff materials and precise manufacturing. Great is someone can pull it off.

Yeah, it made the rounds on some tech forums a few years ago. No more efficient than a conventional chain, while requiring higher (more expensive) tolerances, and more sensitivity to dirt and water. Oh yeah, maybe this changed, but at the time they couldn't explain how they were going to change gears.

What's not to love?


I can't see the practicality in everyday use. I have no idea about the tech used in track bikes though. I watched the split pinion video on the mfg site, that was interesting at least.
 
2022-04-08 12:18:28 PM  
As  a prototype its "value" is listed here as basically what it cost to build it.
It is not a product on the market, it has never sold once for anything ever, its market value cannot be known right now at all.

Many prototypes are very costly to make, but can wind up having little to no actual market value in and of themselves at all.
A prototype can simply turn a lot of actual value, into a pile of something not worth much at all.


This is not a "what it is worth on the market"  value listing, this is "what it cost us to make it" value listing.
Or more like a a cost of business deduction to be later, so sure it will have that 'value" but that is not product market value as the wording of this article would leave us to assume.
 
2022-04-08 12:34:28 PM  

PvtStash: As  a prototype its "value" is listed here as basically what it cost to build it.
It is not a product on the market, it has never sold once for anything ever, its market value cannot be known right now at all.

Many prototypes are very costly to make, but can wind up having little to no actual market value in and of themselves at all.
A prototype can simply turn a lot of actual value, into a pile of something not worth much at all.


Prototype devices are valuable while you are using them, and then you learn what you need to, and the prototype becomes a bunch of junk parts thrown in a corner.  The "while you are using them" period should be as short as possible, because you are trying to get a product to market.
 
2022-04-08 1:31:21 PM  
Local bike shop here in Pittsburgh had their window broken out and a 7k bike taken right out of the display.... Next day moron who did it goes into the Wheel Mill (indoor mountain bike place) to have the tires looked at... My buddy working the desk immediately realizing this guy shouldn't have had a brand new 7k bike (he was a known derelict in the area) said sure, and threw it up on the rack in the service area. Someone called him, giving him an excuse to go in the back where he immediately called the cops... Cops are there in 3 mins. Guy tries to claim he has a receipt but of course can't find it. (eye roll)... Shop got it's bike back and he was forced to pay legal restitution (criminal court forced not civil) on top of doing a year in jail.... Fark bike thieves..
 
2022-04-08 1:47:20 PM  

noitsnot: PvtStash: As  a prototype its "value" is listed here as basically what it cost to build it.
It is not a product on the market, it has never sold once for anything ever, its market value cannot be known right now at all.

Many prototypes are very costly to make, but can wind up having little to no actual market value in and of themselves at all.
A prototype can simply turn a lot of actual value, into a pile of something not worth much at all.

Prototype devices are valuable while you are using them, and then you learn what you need to, and the prototype becomes a bunch of junk parts thrown in a corner.  The "while you are using them" period should be as short as possible, because you are trying to get a product to market.


Absolutely.

i am merely pointing out that the article's use of "value" does not clarify for the reader that the "value" is not an actual market valuation, but a business cost to have produced it. Not technically a market "value" like that but more really of insurance value. If the building it was in burned and it was destroyed what would they claim their lost value was to the insuracne? That sort of value, is what we are speaking of, while the article allows the reader to assume they mean it is worth that on the open market as the listed value.
And anyone that ain't worked in the right sectors, won't really have the xp to know the reality the article is describing.
 
2022-04-08 2:37:48 PM  

HoratioGates: Lsherm: I had a bike stolen from me in college back in the early 90's. I am of the opinion that bike thieves should be treated like horse thieves in the 1800s: immediate execution. You are stealing a means to make a living, so it's murder-related.

No, I don't believe in the death penalty under any circumstances.  Just take the seat off and make the crook ride it that way for a couple hundred miles.


Oh, yes. I helped evict a tenant who was staying well past his "sell or use by" date. Everyone was fed up with him, at this point, and his girlfriend decided to walk off with his bicycle seat... which was so helpful when he had to go running down the road after stealing a laptop computer... long story.

I've known people to somehow use bicycle seats that are so broken, they spin freely, but having no seat at all makes a bicycle a very dangerous sex toy.
 
2022-04-08 3:39:03 PM  

kb7rky: With helpful image of what a prototype bicycle may look like:

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Interesting gearing. I'd love to try it out.
 
2022-04-08 4:04:10 PM  

whitroth: kb7rky: With helpful image of what a prototype bicycle may look like:

[denver.cbslocal.com image 640x360]

Interesting gearing. I'd love to try it out.


It's been kicking around on YouTube for a couple years.  It kinda looks like it would never work after you get it 20 ft from the shop.  Plus no way to have a narrow gear range so mountain only I guess.
 
2022-04-08 9:16:45 PM  
I actually had the same idea fro a gearing system, but it sat between the back wheel and pedals.  It used 2 "gear" wheels and a sliding spinning rod between them.  The rod move back, you geared up, it moved forward, you geared down.   There was a chain and sprocket on the pedals and back wheel, and this gearing system was meant to be an add-on kit to a normal bicycle, and it would be a self-contained system to keep the dirt and grime out.  I came up with the idea trying to figure out a smooth gearing system that used only one gear shifter instead of the clunky double gearing.  I was just not smart enough to figure out how to make the gear wheels "grab" while being strong and jam-proof.
 
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