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2022-03-30 9:52:40 AM  
Hattie McDaniel being barred from the ceremony despite being nominated is pretty horrific. They had to sneak her in.
 
2022-03-30 10:34:27 AM  
"Dark" Very strange use of the word.
 
2022-03-30 11:24:19 AM  
That's racist.
 
2022-03-30 11:32:46 AM  
Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.
 
2022-03-30 11:35:44 AM  

edmo: "Dark" Very strange use of the word.


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Here is Jonas explaining to Jonas why what he did is wrong, even if he would do it again.
 
2022-03-30 11:42:10 AM  

Diamond Joe Biden: Hattie McDaniel being barred from the ceremony despite being nominated is pretty horrific. They had to sneak her in.


Yeah, somebody didn't work very hard on that article. Sasha Cohen's bit was just a silly prank, and the streaker is one of those all-time goofy moments that gets constantly referenced for laughs. Putting them in the same list as Polanski, the Littlefeather incident, and Adrian Brody sexually assaulting Halle Berry is staggeringly clueless.
 
2022-03-30 11:46:52 AM  

AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.


Brody kissing Hallie was a sexual, physical assault.
Just sayin.
 
2022-03-30 12:01:16 PM  

Diamond Joe Biden: Hattie McDaniel being barred from the ceremony despite being nominated is pretty horrific. They had to sneak her in.


They don't even include that on the list!
 
2022-03-30 12:02:25 PM  

AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.


John Wayne trying to assault Sacheen Littlefeather is pretty dark.
 
2022-03-30 12:08:11 PM  

AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.


Really? Because John Wayne having to be restrained from jumping on stage and physically attacking a native American lady delivering a respectful protest speech is just as if not more dark.

Not to mention Adrian Brody sexually assaulting Halle Berry on stage.

I'd go so far as to say the Will Smith thing is pretty time in comparison.
 
2022-03-30 12:09:01 PM  
*Tame, not time
 
2022-03-30 12:57:57 PM  
Clint Eastwood also then mocked Brando and Littlefeather by saying that he'd "present [an] award on behalf of all the cowboys shot in all the John Ford Westerns over the years"

So he's always been a racist asshole nutcase - good to know.
 
2022-03-30 1:13:30 PM  

someonelse: AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.

John Wayne trying to assault Sacheen Littlefeather is pretty dark.


Well, that's the way it's been rewritten in the past couple of days. 

Her exact words:
"I was escorted off that stage by some armed guards and luckily so because John Wayne was waiting in the wings ready to go on to pull me off the stage and he had to be held back by six security men because he was so outraged about what I had said"

This is pure projection. How could she possibly know his full intentions? It's entirely possible he would have just shouted at her. It seems logical that if he'd wanted to rush the stage, he could have. It had to have taken some time to get the SIX (alleged) security guards on him. Was he being an asshole? Yes, absolutely. But when you look at the accounts of this incident in the media (which seem to have all come out in the past 48 hours), they all claim he "tried to assault" her, and that's just simply unfounded.

The Smith incident, on the other hand, was pure insanity. And I mean that literally. You have to have left reality behind to believe you're justified in walking up and literally assaulting someone. Especially during a live broadcast to millions of people around the world of a prestigious awards tradition that's about to honor your work. Sorry, but that doesn't compare to the movie cowboy's "hold me back" moment.

The bottom line is that this is one of an avalanche of media desperately attempting to downplay this incident in the past couple of days. Look it up - it's an absolute blitz of articles making these same weak comparisons. The second I saw they'd included the David Niven streaker, I could see right through it. To categorize that harmless and hilarious stunt as one of the Oscars DARK moments only reveals the desperation of this nonsense.

You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.
 
2022-03-30 1:52:37 PM  

AteMyBrain: You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.


Apparently The Guardian went full on Whataboutism with "Why weren't/aren't white people as outraged about Wayne (probably) attempting, but ultimately not being allowed to, assault someone in a similar way 50 years ago?! Hypocrisy, that's why!"
 
2022-03-30 2:23:16 PM  

AteMyBrain: someonelse: AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.

John Wayne trying to assault Sacheen Littlefeather is pretty dark.

Well, that's the way it's been rewritten in the past couple of days. 

Her exact words:
"I was escorted off that stage by some armed guards and luckily so because John Wayne was waiting in the wings ready to go on to pull me off the stage and he had to be held back by six security men because he was so outraged about what I had said"

This is pure projection. How could she possibly know his full intentions? It's entirely possible he would have just shouted at her. It seems logical that if he'd wanted to rush the stage, he could have. It had to have taken some time to get the SIX (alleged) security guards on him. Was he being an asshole? Yes, absolutely. But when you look at the accounts of this incident in the media (which seem to have all come out in the past 48 hours), they all claim he "tried to assault" her, and that's just simply unfounded.

The Smith incident, on the other hand, was pure insanity. And I mean that literally. You have to have left reality behind to believe you're justified in walking up and literally assaulting someone. Especially during a live broadcast to millions of people around the world of a prestigious awards tradition that's about to honor your work. Sorry, but that doesn't compare to the movie cowboy's "hold me back" moment.

The bottom line is that this is one of an avalanche of media desperately attempting to downplay this incident in the past couple of days. Look it up - it's an absolute blitz of articles making these same weak comparisons. The second I saw they'd included the David Niven streaker, I could see right through it. To categorize that harmless and hilarious stunt as one of the Oscars DARK moments only reveals the desperation of this nonsense.

You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.


You can, I suppose, say that JW didn't try to assault her because he was held back, and we don't know his intentions. Seems inarguably true that his intentions were dark enough to be in a listicle of Oscars' dark history.
 
2022-03-30 2:51:50 PM  

AteMyBrain: You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.


No one said it did.
You know, it would've been easier if you just admitted to making an inconsiderate comment. Much less typing.
 
2022-03-30 3:04:03 PM  

AteMyBrain: someonelse: AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.

John Wayne trying to assault Sacheen Littlefeather is pretty dark.

Well, that's the way it's been rewritten in the past couple of days. 

Her exact words:
"I was escorted off that stage by some armed guards and luckily so because John Wayne was waiting in the wings ready to go on to pull me off the stage and he had to be held back by six security men because he was so outraged about what I had said"

This is pure projection. How could she possibly know his full intentions? It's entirely possible he would have just shouted at her. It seems logical that if he'd wanted to rush the stage, he could have. It had to have taken some time to get the SIX (alleged) security guards on him. Was he being an asshole? Yes, absolutely. But when you look at the accounts of this incident in the media (which seem to have all come out in the past 48 hours), they all claim he "tried to assault" her, and that's just simply unfounded.

The Smith incident, on the other hand, was pure insanity. And I mean that literally. You have to have left reality behind to believe you're justified in walking up and literally assaulting someone. Especially during a live broadcast to millions of people around the world of a prestigious awards tradition that's about to honor your work. Sorry, but that doesn't compare to the movie cowboy's "hold me back" moment.

The bottom line is that this is one of an avalanche of media desperately attempting to downplay this incident in the past couple of days. Look it up - it's an absolute blitz of articles making these same weak comparisons. The second I saw they'd included the David Niven streaker, I could see right through it. To categorize that harmless and hilarious stunt as one of the Oscars DARK moments only reveals the desperation of this nonsense.

You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.


On a side note, why was there no security during the whole incident to stop Will Smith as soon as he walked up to the stage? You know the Oscars can afford and does have security in the theater. What usually protects a standup  comedian from the patrons is an elevated stage that makes it harder to approach. You don't have that at the Oscars, but why didn't they have someone at the bottom of the stairs to the stage with a list of people to let through and when. So even though he was up for best actor, he should only be allowed on stage after the winner for that award was read. If you didn't want a no-name security guard spoiling the show early, don't lost the winner names, just the nominees. That was on the show producers for not including such basic security.
 
2022-03-30 3:16:01 PM  

greentea1985: AteMyBrain: someonelse: AteMyBrain: Nope. None of those were dark and shocking except the Will Smith physical assault.

This is such an obvious and awkward attempt to lump it all together in order to downplay the recent incident. But no, these other occurrences cannot be thrown into the same category as an actual physical assault.

Nice try.

John Wayne trying to assault Sacheen Littlefeather is pretty dark.

Well, that's the way it's been rewritten in the past couple of days. 

Her exact words:
"I was escorted off that stage by some armed guards and luckily so because John Wayne was waiting in the wings ready to go on to pull me off the stage and he had to be held back by six security men because he was so outraged about what I had said"

This is pure projection. How could she possibly know his full intentions? It's entirely possible he would have just shouted at her. It seems logical that if he'd wanted to rush the stage, he could have. It had to have taken some time to get the SIX (alleged) security guards on him. Was he being an asshole? Yes, absolutely. But when you look at the accounts of this incident in the media (which seem to have all come out in the past 48 hours), they all claim he "tried to assault" her, and that's just simply unfounded.

The Smith incident, on the other hand, was pure insanity. And I mean that literally. You have to have left reality behind to believe you're justified in walking up and literally assaulting someone. Especially during a live broadcast to millions of people around the world of a prestigious awards tradition that's about to honor your work. Sorry, but that doesn't compare to the movie cowboy's "hold me back" moment.

The bottom line is that this is one of an avalanche of media desperately attempting to downplay this incident in the past couple of days. Look it up - it's an absolute blitz of articles making these same weak comparisons. The second I saw they'd included the David Niven streaker, I could see right through it. To categorize that harmless and hilarious stunt as one of the Oscars DARK moments only reveals the desperation of this nonsense.

You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.

On a side note, why was there no security during the whole incident to stop Will Smith as soon as he walked up to the stage? You know the Oscars can afford and does have security in the theater. What usually protects a standup  comedian from the patrons is an elevated stage that makes it harder to approach. You don't have that at the Oscars, but why didn't they have someone at the bottom of the stairs to the stage with a list of people to let through and when. So even though he was up for best actor, he should only be allowed on stage after the winner for that award was read. If you didn't want a no-name security guard spoiling the show early, don't lost the winner names, just the nominees. That was on the show producers for not including such basic security.


My guess is that security's focus was on people trying to get in. Once the were in, security wasn't too concerned. This has literally never happened before, after all. Going forward, I bet nobody is allowed to get near the stage unless they're supposed to be there. Which of course wouldn't have stopped Smith from just cold-cocking Rock backstage or whatever.
 
2022-03-30 3:27:14 PM  
Some of that is bullshiate being peddled as dark rather than silly.  The streaker?  Good lord.

Brando refusing the Award wasn't dark either, it was just serious.  The issue behind it?  Sure.  But not the actual events.

Brody forcing himself on Halle Berry?  Yes.  Actually a very dark one, and one I brought up with the "arrest Smith" holier than thou stuff, or even moreso the "yank his award" stuff. Tons of rapists never had an award yanked.  But even right there on the broadcast, a guy mauls a woman and people are forgetting it and acting like that slap was WORSE?  Anyone talking about yanking HIS award?  In fact, there's a clip on YouTube where someone official from the Academy talks about this moment as an "Oscar highlight" and memorable moment.  To be clear, Berry was clearly scared to protest too much at the time, but years later made it clear it was unwanted, uninvited, unrehearsed, etc.

The Polanski thing is clearly dark, but so is the entire history of the Awards and rapists.  Not specific to the ceremony, really.

The wrong winner announced?  Really? That's dark?  No.  Embarrassing?  Yes.
 
2022-03-30 3:35:13 PM  
Here's dark.

This is STILL up on the official Oscars YouTube channel.  They never took it down.  Listen to how the incident is posed and described.  "Favorite Oscars Moment".  "Just the best".


Favorite Oscar® Moment - Adrien Brody kissing Halle Berry
Youtube B4kzceTpmAY


Eeeeeeeeeee!  So romantic!  (not)

Even if you forgive them for this point of view 14 years ago... them assuming Berry was okay with it because she didn't buck the system and say anything about it until years later... this is still up.  On an official channel.
 
2022-03-30 4:01:44 PM  
Yes, that dark moment when the streaker ran across the stage.  David Niven was so traumatized that he could only say,

"But isn't it fascinating to think that probably the only laugh that man will ever get in his life is by stripping off and showing his shortcomings?"
 
2022-03-30 4:07:14 PM  
Reading the headline, I figured Will Smith was being sent to the Wall to keep Hispanic walkers out, or are they just a myth used to scare us still?
 
2022-03-30 4:14:37 PM  
DARK. Yes.
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/too soon?
 
2022-03-30 4:26:34 PM  

I Like Bread: AteMyBrain: You can say the John Wayne thing was wrong. and it was. But dredging up something from nearly half a century ago doesn't in any way make Will Smith's violent actions any less insane. Not to me anyway.

No one said it did.


The article implies it pretty strongly, which is what I just posted at length. You have to read the words on the screen rather then the ones in your head, I guess.

You know, it would've been easier if you just admitted to making an inconsiderate comment. Much less typing.

Easier still if you possessed any level of perception at all. Even less typing.
 
2022-03-30 4:54:12 PM  

AteMyBrain: Easier still if you possessed any level of perception at all. Even less typing.


Yeah... I won't be taking advice about perception from the dude who thinks TFA was in any way downplaying The Slap when it contains phrases like this: "In perhaps one of the most shocking Oscar moments of all time, the Oscars 2022 also delivered a dark chapter in the Academy Awards' long history."

Just let it go, man.
 
2022-03-30 6:41:45 PM  

I Like Bread: Yeah... I won't be taking advice about perception from the dude who thinks TFA was in any way downplaying The Slap when it contains phrases like this: "In perhaps one of the most shocking Oscar moments of all time, the Oscars 2022 also delivered a dark chapter in the Academy Awards' long history."

Just let it go, man.


You're highlighting the wrong parts.

"In perhaps one of the most shocking Oscar moments of all time, the Oscars 2022 also delivered a dark chapter in the Academy Awards' long history."

TFA isn't willing to commit and leaves it up for question whether Smith's slap was one of the most shocking moments, lumping it in with the rest of its very uneven list. We're all pretty much in agreement that TFA is stupid and draws a lot of bad equivalences, even including things that don't belong on a list of "dark" moments at all (unless you have a real phobia of streakers being made fun of by David Niven).
 
2022-03-30 8:56:04 PM  

JohnnyFark: DARK. Yes.
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/too soon?


You know memes are supposed to be funny, right?
 
2022-03-30 9:07:36 PM  
What I really wanna know is why they had guards that successfully stopped John Wayne one year, but none that could stop the streaker the following year.
 
2022-03-30 9:10:24 PM  

Fireproof: What I really wanna know is why they had guards that successfully stopped John Wayne one year, but none that could stop the streaker the following year.


"You've got to grab hold of John Wayne!"

"Sure thing, boss."

"And now you've got to grab hold of that sketchy-looking naked guy!"

"I'm... not comfortable with this."
 
2022-03-30 9:14:42 PM  

EdgeRunner: Fireproof: What I really wanna know is why they had guards that successfully stopped John Wayne one year, but none that could stop the streaker the following year.

"You've got to grab hold of John Wayne!"

"Sure thing, boss."

"And now you've got to grab hold of that sketchy-looking naked guy!"

"I'm... not comfortable with this."


Funny.

But then why didn't they have them this year?

/Probably a boring answer about the stage this year being flat and Wayne's year having a stage where you had to use the steps off to the side somewhere.
 
2022-03-30 10:14:00 PM  

Fireproof: EdgeRunner: Fireproof: What I really wanna know is why they had guards that successfully stopped John Wayne one year, but none that could stop the streaker the following year.

"You've got to grab hold of John Wayne!"

"Sure thing, boss."

"And now you've got to grab hold of that sketchy-looking naked guy!"

"I'm... not comfortable with this."

Funny.

But then why didn't they have them this year?

/Probably a boring answer about the stage this year being flat and Wayne's year having a stage where you had to use the steps off to the side somewhere.


John Wayne roaring and growling backstage, loudly announcing his intention to make trouble, and some rando naked guy crashing the party are both obvious security problems. Will Smith, who was previously laughing along with the crowd and is now confidently walking up to his old buddy Chris Rock, that doesn't ring any alarm bells. Everyone's expecting he's going up there to do a bit, which is why the crowd laughed after the slap. It wasn't funny, but everyone was primed for something funny so they're all thinking it had to be staged. It isn't until Will starts emphatically cursing at Rock that it dawns on everyone that he really just did that, and now nobody knows what to do. Rock keeps his cool and he's trying to defuse things, Will doesn't look like he's planning to do anything else, and the Academy really doesn't want to have to cut away while bouncers rush one of Hollywood's biggest names and a Best Actor contender out the door. They'd be taking heat no matter what decision they made, but in retrospect, while getting everyone to cool off and proceed like nothing had happened wasn't the appropriate call, it must have seemed like the one least likely to cause more trouble.

After all, there was no way to make the evening better. All anyone could do was try not to make things any worse. If Rock had been the main host, I think they would have had to remove Smith, but since Rock was just a guest presenter who was bailing out immediately afterwards and thus removing the source of tension, I can see the logic in not wanting to call security and introduce a new antagonistic presence just as things were settling down. Especially not if Smith was refusing to leave, and he'd already demonstrated that his behavior was unpredictable that night. Why invite more headaches?

As some famous comedian once said, I ain't saying it's right, but I understand.
 
2022-03-30 10:55:39 PM  

I Like Bread: AteMyBrain: Easier still if you possessed any level of perception at all. Even less typing.

Yeah... I won't be taking advice about perception from the dude who thinks TFA was in any way downplaying The Slap when it contains phrases like this: "In perhaps one of the most shocking Oscar moments of all time, the Oscars 2022 also delivered a dark chapter in the Academy Awards' long history."

Just let it go, man.


I just can't, man.

I honestly wish I could somehow convey my really straightforward premise to you in a way you could understand. Most people can just sorta pick it from, you know...basic reading comprehension. I feel really badly for you that you just can't seem to grasp it. Oh well...I guess you can keep trying to cover it up with your awesomely edgy little misdirections.

OK, man?

Cool, man.
 
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