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2022-03-26 8:31:29 AM  
For instance, Instagram and Facebook updates could appear simultaneously, without having to go through different apps.

Tabbed browsing?  He's inventing tabbed browsing but in 3D?
 
2022-03-26 8:52:31 AM  
In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.

I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.
 
2022-03-26 8:54:05 AM  
He believes the Metaverse will take the world into a more robust economy, where people can do things that are intellectually or physically interesting to them. Communities will pop up, leading to monetization and self-sustaining ecosystems.

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2022-03-26 9:02:23 AM  

downstairs: For instance, Instagram and Facebook updates could appear simultaneously, without having to go through different apps.

Tabbed browsing? He's inventing tabbed browsing but in 3D?


Drew was ahead of his time.
 
2022-03-26 9:07:52 AM  
Lately it occurs to me that there must be an easier way to find the easy girls.
This has all gotten out of hand.
 
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2022-03-26 9:26:00 AM  

bostonguy: In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.
I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.



Linden Labs tried to hype virtual meetings in Second Life too.


He believes the Metaverse will take the world into a more robust economy, where people can do things that are intellectually or physically interesting to them. Communities will pop up, leading to monetization and self-sustaining ecosystems.

In Second Life there are long standing communities, and the ability to explore places and lifestyles, and that is why people are still logging in. But very few actually make real income there.

Don't really know where Zuck wants to go with his Metaverse, but i'm hoping its not just a 3d version of AOL
 
2022-03-26 9:26:39 AM  
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So it's fortnite w no guns, shiattier graphics and companies paying Zuckerbot to poorly advertise products?

SIGN ME UP!!1!
 
2022-03-26 9:36:59 AM  

bostonguy: downstairs: For instance, Instagram and Facebook updates could appear simultaneously, without having to go through different apps.

Tabbed browsing? He's inventing tabbed browsing but in 3D?

Drew was ahead of his time.


Well, he IS a time traveler, after all.

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2022-03-26 9:56:25 AM  
Second Life? Pah, young whippersnappers.

Pass me my onion belt and my login for World's Chat!
 
2022-03-26 12:58:30 PM  
Zuckerberg is also a family man and aims to do bedtime with his kids every night.

Meta is doomed now.
 
2022-03-26 1:04:16 PM  
his vision for a digital world where you can make eye contact with others

Translation: He's been using this app to practice acting human, and now he's decided to monetize it.
 
2022-03-26 1:08:43 PM  
It's Active Worlds from 1995 basically he's hyping and even Active Worlds wasn't an original at this. I think it was called World Chat or something? But Active Worlds let you build in to the world on your own and link images to some build pieces. Then if you actually bought and hosted a world all the pieces were basically linked to a web server and you could load them with whatever textures you wanted practically.
 
2022-03-26 1:43:01 PM  
No doubt this is going to evolve sooner or later. Question is will it include the full-body biometrics package Zuck wants to sell off, or will it be a 4Chan orgy of everything?
 
2022-03-26 1:45:33 PM  

bostonguy: In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.

I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.


Seriously. Most of the people in my company don't even turn the camera on during Teams meetings. Turns out conf calls with a way to share documents, is more than enough for the majority of people
 
2022-03-26 1:48:47 PM  
Jeeesus WEPT!
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2022-03-26 1:52:13 PM  
When I was in grad school, they talked about second life as a way to teach classes. This was 2005. I had to I form the professor that it was dildos all the way down.
 
2022-03-26 2:05:22 PM  

Farking Clown Shoes: He believes the Metaverse will take the world into a more robust economy, where people can do things that are intellectually or physically interesting to them. Communities will pop up, leading to monetization and self-sustaining ecosystems.

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Appararently people with common interests will be able to find each other, unlike now.
 
2022-03-26 2:09:29 PM  
Coming soon.

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2022-03-26 2:21:00 PM  
WorldsAway or gtfo
 
2022-03-26 2:21:37 PM  

What in The: Coming soon.

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2022-03-26 2:27:15 PM  
Second Life doesn't track you everywhere you go or throw ads in your face. So this is Second Life, but shiattier.

The idea of everyone and having their own little cyberspace demiplanes and being able to visit each other's worlds and such is definitely going to be a thing, and the technology has gotten just good enough that we can start seeing the early incarnations of it (or at least the early VR incarnations of it, since SL and its predecessors ARE the first gen of that). Facebook is about THE worst possible company to be trying to push this, however, and really, this pretty much can't work with one company running the show. It needs to be an open standard, like http, not one megacorp's software and rules (and ability to shut the whole thing down when the shareholders aren't happy).

So yeah, I think it's going to be cool when a metaverse happens for real, but what Zuckerbot's shilling? It ain't it.
 
2022-03-26 2:29:06 PM  

whither_apophis: What in The: Coming soon.

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First episode of Star Trek AND TNG I ever saw when I was a kid. Too bad it was a Wesley episode.
 
2022-03-26 2:40:48 PM  

trerro: Second Life doesn't track you everywhere you go or throw ads in your face. So this is Second Life, but shiattier.

The idea of everyone and having their own little cyberspace demiplanes and being able to visit each other's worlds and such is definitely going to be a thing, and the technology has gotten just good enough that we can start seeing the early incarnations of it (or at least the early VR incarnations of it, since SL and its predecessors ARE the first gen of that). Facebook is about THE worst possible company to be trying to push this, however, and really, this pretty much can't work with one company running the show. It needs to be an open standard, like http, not one megacorp's software and rules (and ability to shut the whole thing down when the shareholders aren't happy).

So yeah, I think it's going to be cool when a metaverse happens for real, but what Zuckerbot's shilling? It ain't it.


Indeed. A metaverse could be awesome. It would have to have robust single player in addition to its shared elements. Nobody, realistically, is going to want to go to work through it or attend meetings there. There's have to be no scarcity (none of this "virtual real estate sales" crap), no embedded advertising... it would be everything facebooks metaverse will not be.

I'll trust a metaverse when it's creator wants to live there full time.
 
2022-03-26 2:41:09 PM  

bostonguy: In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.

I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.


I'm a proponent of web 3.0 (not Zucks but as a concept and industry) but I did a business conference last year in a metaverse and it SUUUUUCCCKKKKKEEEEED.  Beyond stupid.
 
2022-03-26 2:47:36 PM  

trerro: Second Life doesn't track you everywhere you go or throw ads in your face. So this is Second Life, but shiattier.

The idea of everyone and having their own little cyberspace demiplanes and being able to visit each other's worlds and such is definitely going to be a thing, and the technology has gotten just good enough that we can start seeing the early incarnations of it (or at least the early VR incarnations of it, since SL and its predecessors ARE the first gen of that). Facebook is about THE worst possible company to be trying to push this, however, and really, this pretty much can't work with one company running the show. It needs to be an open standard, like http, not one megacorp's software and rules (and ability to shut the whole thing down when the shareholders aren't happy).

So yeah, I think it's going to be cool when a metaverse happens for real, but what Zuckerbot's shilling? It ain't it.


I'm invested pretty heavily into a horse racing metaverse that is expanding what all the horse racing metas did before.  It's definetly much more akin to a simulation of the entire horse racing ecoystem.  It's called Speed Star, pretty quiet in the West right now, but its huge in Japan, Korea and the rest of Asia (graphically you can see why as well)  Speed Star Game.  The shiat is going to be huge.  shiat the horse racing metaverses are going to be a multi billion dollar industry alone aside from the rest of web 3.0 stuff.

People denying that this is going to happen are pretty mistaken.  Is it perfect?  No, but this gives waaaay more people to play and invest in a more fair ecoystem that currently exists.  Right now it's either have lots of capital, power, and influence for small market investing or wait for corporations to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars until they let the schlubs in so they can't become part of the club. Even IPOs are only available to a select few.
 
2022-03-26 3:09:28 PM  
I haven't logged into Second Life in over 15 years.
I still remember the usename... I use it for Fet Life now.

/Bit fuzzy on the password. Might remember it.
//Registration email address is defunct, though.
 
2022-03-26 3:20:02 PM  

bostonguy: whither_apophis: What in The: Coming soon.

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First episode of Star Trek AND TNG I ever saw when I was a kid. Too bad it was a Wesley episode.


It was also an Ashley Judd episode so...mmmm.
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2022-03-26 3:20:09 PM  

DaMannimal: trerro: Second Life doesn't track you everywhere you go or throw ads in your face. So this is Second Life, but shiattier.

The idea of everyone and having their own little cyberspace demiplanes and being able to visit each other's worlds and such is definitely going to be a thing, and the technology has gotten just good enough that we can start seeing the early incarnations of it (or at least the early VR incarnations of it, since SL and its predecessors ARE the first gen of that). Facebook is about THE worst possible company to be trying to push this, however, and really, this pretty much can't work with one company running the show. It needs to be an open standard, like http, not one megacorp's software and rules (and ability to shut the whole thing down when the shareholders aren't happy).

So yeah, I think it's going to be cool when a metaverse happens for real, but what Zuckerbot's shilling? It ain't it.

I'm invested pretty heavily into a horse racing metaverse that is expanding what all the horse racing metas did before.  It's definetly much more akin to a simulation of the entire horse racing ecoystem.  It's called Speed Star, pretty quiet in the West right now, but its huge in Japan, Korea and the rest of Asia (graphically you can see why as well)  Speed Star Game.  The shiat is going to be huge.  shiat the horse racing metaverses are going to be a multi billion dollar industry alone aside from the rest of web 3.0 stuff.

People denying that this is going to happen are pretty mistaken.  Is it perfect?  No, but this gives waaaay more people to play and invest in a more fair ecoystem that currently exists.  Right now it's either have lots of capital, power, and influence for small market investing or wait for corporations to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars until they let the schlubs in so they can't become part of the club. Even IPOs are only available to a select few.


It's going to be the biggest thing since sliced bread. No joke, you know how the internet as a concept has been a functional upgrade to the concept of the computer, and how it has transformed all of ours lives and civilization? It's going to be like that, except instead of conceptual upgrades to computing it's going to be a revolutionary concept to real life. Once interfaces are dirt cheap and seamless it's going to be ubiquitous. It's probably going to suck a billion balls all at once, but people will learn to live with it and debase their minds to enjoy and thrive in it.

Don't fight the tape on this. It's once of the dumbest things I've ever heard of in my life, but so was Facebook opening up to the public and you can see how successful that was despite F*ckerberg nearly strangling his own golden goose to death instead of forking FB for the unwashed masses. I'm balls deep in a company that's going to be bringing down the costs of AR lenses, Fecesbook is probably tapping them for their upcoming products.

All the metaverse needs is time for the physical stuff to get lined up for mass production and the software interfaces to get smoothed over. After that the tooling gets dumbed down so that everyone can no-code anything they want and then the content writes itself. It's giving someone the tools to make their own Skinner Box prison, you can't ignore how lucrative that is. 80% of people simply don't grok the concept of the metaverse to understand just how bad they are going to want this.
 
2022-03-26 3:30:07 PM  

DaMannimal: trerro: Second Life doesn't track you everywhere you go or throw ads in your face. So this is Second Life, but shiattier.

The idea of everyone and having their own little cyberspace demiplanes and being able to visit each other's worlds and such is definitely going to be a thing, and the technology has gotten just good enough that we can start seeing the early incarnations of it (or at least the early VR incarnations of it, since SL and its predecessors ARE the first gen of that). Facebook is about THE worst possible company to be trying to push this, however, and really, this pretty much can't work with one company running the show. It needs to be an open standard, like http, not one megacorp's software and rules (and ability to shut the whole thing down when the shareholders aren't happy).

So yeah, I think it's going to be cool when a metaverse happens for real, but what Zuckerbot's shilling? It ain't it.

I'm invested pretty heavily into a horse racing metaverse that is expanding what all the horse racing metas did before.  It's definetly much more akin to a simulation of the entire horse racing ecoystem.  It's called Speed Star, pretty quiet in the West right now, but its huge in Japan, Korea and the rest of Asia (graphically you can see why as well)  Speed Star Game.  The shiat is going to be huge.  shiat the horse racing metaverses are going to be a multi billion dollar industry alone aside from the rest of web 3.0 stuff.

People denying that this is going to happen are pretty mistaken.  Is it perfect?  No, but this gives waaaay more people to play and invest in a more fair ecoystem that currently exists.  Right now it's either have lots of capital, power, and influence for small market investing or wait for corporations to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars until they let the schlubs in so they can't become part of the club. Even IPOs are only available to a select few.


Someone partook of the Flavor-Aid it seems. I did a search for "Speed Star" and the first few links about it were talking about NFTs. lol.

At least these web3.0 clowns are entertaining, if nothing else.
 
2022-03-26 3:38:33 PM  

padraig: bostonguy: In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.

I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.

Seriously. Most of the people in my company don't even turn the camera on during Teams meetings. Turns out conf calls with a way to share documents, is more than enough for the majority of people


I'm the only one in ANY Teams meeting who ever turns my camera on, and it's purely because I'm IT and it's a lot easier to show people what I'm looking at than describe it.

Usually a the Sysadmin asks something like "Maybe somebody can check the network settings and make sure the access points  are... oh, nevermind, K'a camera is on."
 
2022-03-26 3:42:28 PM  
A small pilot group at my company did a VR meeting pilot.

The severity of the persistent headaches killed it.
 
2022-03-26 3:47:07 PM  

tricycleracer: A small pilot group at my company did a VR meeting pilot.

The severity of the persistent headaches killed it.


CSB. During the height of Zoom during the pandemic, I asked a few friends, "Why do you have to Zoom all meetings? Just have a freaking conference telephone call or have a Zoom with all video turned off."

They all said that "it helps to see peoples' facial and body language."

So, my question: How will a VR meeting with computer-generated images of people that do not show any real non-verbal cues help at all?
 
2022-03-26 3:59:08 PM  
I'd briefly join to watch his live vivisection for his crimes against democracy and humanity.
 
2022-03-26 3:59:11 PM  
I have all my Apes there on the walls of the house I own that's right next to Snoop's house. I paid 200 Eth for it, what a steal!

/posted from my burned out shack in a decaying suburb of the remains of America
//can't afford food or clothes or heat, but my Meta-house is totally badass!
 
2022-03-26 4:17:02 PM  

What in The: Coming soon.

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Nice post, very good show.
 
2022-03-26 4:49:57 PM  

downstairs: For instance, Instagram and Facebook updates could appear simultaneously, without having to go through different apps.

Tabbed browsing?  He's inventing tabbed browsing but in 3D?


No.
 
2022-03-26 5:26:36 PM  
Microsoft Bob did it better.
 
2022-03-26 5:33:30 PM  

bostonguy: In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.

I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.


All I can say is, at 51 years old, retirement is looking less and less hypothetical, and I'm looking forward to when I can say "good luck with all that shiat, I'm out."
 
2022-03-26 5:51:15 PM  

germ78: I have all my Apes there on the walls of the house I own that's right next to Snoop's house. I paid 200 Eth for it, what a steal!

/posted from my burned out shack in a decaying suburb of the remains of America
//can't afford food or clothes or heat, but my Meta-house is totally badass!


Lies, nobody has a house anymore. You live in the Columbus Stacks too.

/ rewatched the end of Ready Player One yesterday
 
2022-03-26 5:54:40 PM  
Farking Clown Shoes:

Sounds like ready player one.


As with Caddyshack no sequal exists
 
2022-03-26 5:56:19 PM  
TedCruz'sCrazyDad:

Just because you aim at something doesn't mean you ever come close to hitting it
 
2022-03-26 6:52:07 PM  

Nimbull: It's Active Worlds from 1995 basically he's hyping and even Active Worlds wasn't an original at this. I think it was called World Chat or something? But Active Worlds let you build in to the world on your own and link images to some build pieces. Then if you actually bought and hosted a world all the pieces were basically linked to a web server and you could load them with whatever textures you wanted practically.

Habitat

, 1986.

Lucasfilm's Habitat Promotional Video
Youtube VVpulhO3jyc
 
2022-03-26 7:49:04 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Zuckerberg is also a family man and aims to do bedtime with his kids every night.

Meta is doomed now.


Considering how utterly creepy this guy is, this sentence makes me think that when his kids get older we are going to hear some horror stories.
 
2022-03-26 8:53:11 PM  
He is doing this because, at least for him, it's the best way to interact with others.

He is using his money and position to work around his own issues and problems instead of seeing a therapist and/or getting appropriate psychoactive chemical therapy to assist in dealing with his problems.

In short: he is creating a new reality because it's easier for him.

I have played through Persona 4 and 5.  I know how this ends.  Unironically, I feel like Atlus should sue him.  He is literally creating a world to serve humanity's desires and calling it the MetaVerse.  I won't be surprised if a long nosed man greets you when you first log in and says "welcome to the velvet room" and starts talking about contracts at this rate.
 
2022-03-26 9:28:28 PM  
It's still not open to people with an original Quest
 
2022-03-26 9:33:16 PM  

Nimbull: It's Active Worlds from 1995 basically he's hyping and even Active Worlds wasn't an original at this. I think it was called World Chat or something? But Active Worlds let you build in to the world on your own and link images to some build pieces. Then if you actually bought and hosted a world all the pieces were basically linked to a web server and you could load them with whatever textures you wanted practically.


I vaguely recall 20-ish years ago some Worlds.com (either that or something similar) with premium areas (VIP?) and a whole section dedicated to WWF (pre WWE) and another section dedicated to Aerosmith (and I thought that area was kinda cool)
 
2022-03-26 10:19:01 PM  

bostonguy: tricycleracer: A small pilot group at my company did a VR meeting pilot.

The severity of the persistent headaches killed it.

CSB. During the height of Zoom during the pandemic, I asked a few friends, "Why do you have to Zoom all meetings? Just have a freaking conference telephone call or have a Zoom with all video turned off."

They all said that "it helps to see peoples' facial and body language."

So, my question: How will a VR meeting with computer-generated images of people that do not show any real non-verbal cues help at all?


Video in zoom calls serves no purpose. It's driven by egomaniacs who thinks everyone wants to see them. Me and my team never use video and it works just fine.
 
2022-03-26 10:22:01 PM  
Everyone would love cyberpunk VR if it were a real thing.

Nobody is interested in anything that could be done with today's technology.
 
2022-03-27 5:22:37 AM  

bostonguy: In the business world, a lot of people are hyping up the opinion that companies will love to have virtual meetings in this virtual reality space. Yeah, right.

I never thought there would be a way to make meetings suck even more, but we have found a way.


Then they'll have meeting on how employee electronics are a distraction
 
2022-03-27 5:24:00 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: He believes the Metaverse will take the world into a more robust economy, where people can do things that are intellectually or physically interesting to them. Communities will pop up, leading to monetization and self-sustaining ecosystems.

[c.tenor.com image 220x220]


LOL, then they'll throw a bunch of inflammatory manufactured garbage into your precious ecosystem for profit.
 
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