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(SlashFilm)   For "Touch of Evil" Orson Welles changed filmmaking forever. In mundane driving scene, he dumped janky-looking rear screen projection used in Hollywood since forever and figured out how to film Charlton Heston driving real car on real road   (slashfilm.com) divider line
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2022-03-26 4:52:37 AM  
Strange Brew - In Movies They Don't Look At The Road
Youtube xc3Or0bamEU
 
2022-03-26 4:55:09 AM  
Been watching old Dexter eps with the missus, we were watching one just last night and there was a scene on a boat. Most of these scenes in that show appear to have been filmed from the boat or by a crew on an adjacent boat but for whatever reason the scene we saw last night was clearly done with greenscreen. It looked terrible, it really stood out and detracted from the action.

Thanks subby, interesting article about a significant improvement in filming movie footage much more realistically.

/Still enjoy the scene from the taxi cab in Pulp Fiction which was obviously filmed in a studio and seems to use black and white footage for the "external" shots, that's good art, deliberately looks dodgy.
 
2022-03-26 5:00:16 AM  
We're Being Followed
Youtube 81NWeyz7e8E
 
2022-03-26 5:14:56 AM  
Airplane! Rex Kramer Car Scene
Youtube MrktxWUgcyA
 
2022-03-26 5:51:22 AM  
I didn't see it in TFA, so here it is

Touch Of Evil (1958) - Driving Sequence
Youtube RqOyFEopYfI
 
2022-03-26 6:22:23 AM  
Dreadzone - The Bad (Part Two) [Unofficial Video]
Youtube MDs0k8vG0Xk
 
2022-03-26 6:32:19 AM  
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2022-03-26 7:29:39 AM  
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2022-03-26 8:31:16 AM  
Neat article. It's easy to forget that common techniques of filming today were innovative at one time.
 
2022-03-26 8:39:12 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Neat article. It's easy to forget that common techniques of filming today were innovative at one time.


A lot of "common techniques" have been rendered obsolete by digital effects which can produce literally any image at all.

There was a good article on Fark recently about the making of Metropolis and how they filmed some very grand scenes showing people at a long distance moving through ultra-modern city scapes. It was filmed using mirrors with strips of non-mirror so that they could film the people from a distance through the non-mirror while using the mirrors to make table-top models of buildings look like massive skyscrapers. It would all be done with digital effects today.
 
2022-03-26 8:53:05 AM  
Aussie_As: ...There was a good article on Fark recently about the making of Metropolis and how they filmed some very grand scenes showing people at a long distance moving through ultra-modern city scapes. It was filmed using mirrors with strips of non-mirror so that they could film the people from a distance through the non-mirror while using the mirrors to make table-top models of buildings look like massive skyscrapers. It would all be done with digital effects today.

The Schufftan Process! Peter Jackson used it in Return of the King.
 
2022-03-26 9:29:23 AM  
I worked on rigging a shot where the camera starts out on the sign on the roof of a restaraunt, then comes down to ground level and follows someone into the restaurant, then tracks their action for a few beats.  That was a fun day.
 
2022-03-26 9:31:19 AM  
forgot to add:  with cameras getting smaller, rigging them to cars has gotten pretty easy.
 
2022-03-26 10:10:26 AM  
Orson said to him patiently, 'All right, let's do it once more. This time, if you aren't sure of your line, just move your lips-we can dub it in later. But whatever you do, please God don't say, "I'm sorry, Mr. Welles."' That's the take that's in the movie.


This made me larf out loud
 
2022-03-26 10:10:59 AM  
The Raid 2 Shooting a Car Chase side by side
Youtube kxb9xzAaYjM
I really enjoyed this shot from the most excellemt Raid 2.
 
2022-03-26 10:14:46 AM  
I prefer The Touch Of Satan

MST3K: The Touch of Satan (FULL MOVIE)
Youtube ZebKhabJItE
 
2022-03-26 10:15:21 AM  
the opening sequence:

Opening Shot (Touch of Evil, 1958)
Youtube mBAtcI_t-Z8
 
2022-03-26 10:15:40 AM  
There's a scene in Dirty Dancing with Johnny and Baby traveling in Johnny's car. The car is in park the entire time.
 
2022-03-26 10:28:51 AM  
My wife and I just watched the brand new 4k version of the restored Touch of Evil just this week. It's a really stunning film, with brilliant technical and directorial style listic touches that were hugely innovative and it's editing is still utterly contemporary, or still ahead of its time after all these years. Wells took a ridiculous pulp book and turned it into a fascinating study of corruption, race, and forced us to enter a world in which you felt you were trapped in someone else's nightmare. He really was one of the few geniuses in cinema. Some people only remember citizen Kane but when you look at his legacy of films such as magnificent ambersons, othello, macbeth, lady from shanghai, f for fake, chimes of midnight, Touch of evil, the trial, and a few others, he really left a stunning legacy of innovative filmmaking and storytelling.
 
2022-03-26 11:32:22 AM  

cocozilla: My wife and I just watched the brand new 4k version of the restored Touch of Evil just this week. It's a really stunning film, with brilliant technical and directorial style listic touches that were hugely innovative and it's editing is still utterly contemporary, or still ahead of its time after all these years. Wells took a ridiculous pulp book and turned it into a fascinating study of corruption, race, and forced us to enter a world in which you felt you were trapped in someone else's nightmare. He really was one of the few geniuses in cinema. Some people only remember citizen Kane but when you look at his legacy of films such as magnificent ambersons, othello, macbeth, lady from shanghai, f for fake, chimes of midnight, Touch of evil, the trial, and a few others, he really left a stunning legacy of innovative filmmaking and storytelling.


Dennis Weaver doesn't get enough love for his acting in ToE. He steals every scene he's in.
 
2022-03-26 12:11:10 PM  

fluffy_pope: cocozilla: My wife and I just watched the brand new 4k version of the restored Touch of Evil just this week. It's a really stunning film, with brilliant technical and directorial style listic touches that were hugely innovative and it's editing is still utterly contemporary, or still ahead of its time after all these years. Wells took a ridiculous pulp book and turned it into a fascinating study of corruption, race, and forced us to enter a world in which you felt you were trapped in someone else's nightmare. He really was one of the few geniuses in cinema. Some people only remember citizen Kane but when you look at his legacy of films such as magnificent ambersons, othello, macbeth, lady from shanghai, f for fake, chimes of midnight, Touch of evil, the trial, and a few others, he really left a stunning legacy of innovative filmmaking and storytelling.

Dennis Weaver doesn't get enough love for his acting in ToE. He steals every scene he's in.


Orson Welles loved him in gunsmoke and sought out Dennis Weaver for the role. They had long discussions about the background of the character and why he was such a neurotic social misfit, and the idea was that he would be like one of the fools from a Shakespeare play. Half mad,but important to propel the story and comment on the action, but from a fool's perspective.
 
2022-03-26 12:13:20 PM  
Taxi Driver was shot during a New York City summer heat wave and sanitation strike in 1975. The film came into conflict with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) for its violence. Scorsese de-saturated the color in the final shootout, and the film got an R rating. To achieve the atmospheric scenes in Bickle's taxi, the sound men would get in the trunk and Scorsese and his cinematographer, Michael Chapman, would ensconce themselves on the back seat floor and use available light to shoot.

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2022-03-26 12:28:16 PM  

blondambition: Taxi Driver was shot during a New York City summer heat wave and sanitation strike in 1975. The film came into conflict with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) for its violence. Scorsese de-saturated the color in the final shootout, and the film got an R rating. To achieve the atmospheric scenes in Bickle's taxi, the sound men would get in the trunk and Scorsese and his cinematographer, Michael Chapman, would ensconce themselves on the back seat floor and use available light to shoot.

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Martin Scorsese liked to quote Orson welles, who said that limitations breed creative inventiveness.
 
2022-03-26 1:06:26 PM  
If Orson Welles had ever seen Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, he'd shiat his pants.
 
2022-03-26 1:11:45 PM  
Conan O'Brien & Andy Desk Driving in L.A 11/10/99
Youtube geul2Di3lnI
 
2022-03-26 1:44:45 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: I didn't see it in TFA, so here it is

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/RqOyFEopYfI]


this scene is shown in film classes in universities all over the world.
 
2022-03-26 1:48:06 PM  
ToE has been called the best B-movie ever made.

Janet Leigh is a trooper. Shot all of her scenes with a broken arm.

Akim Tamiroff as Uncle Joe Grande,,,,creepy
 
2022-03-26 1:50:08 PM  

dereksmalls: Garza and the Supermutants: I didn't see it in TFA, so here it is

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/RqOyFEopYfI]

this scene is shown in film classes in universities all over the world.


I am, of course, referring to the opening sequence, which is almost as well-known as the  steadicam kitchen scene in Goodfellas
 
2022-03-26 3:11:09 PM  
Not to notpick, but I'd say there was a bit more than a "touch" of evil in the movie.
Maybe not enough to call the film "A Roundhouse Kick of Evil" but nevertheless more than a "touch".
 
2022-03-26 4:07:31 PM  

ryant123: [YouTube video: Conan O'Brien & Andy Desk Driving in L.A 11/10/99]


 "WE'RE FROM NEW YORK!" got me.
 
2022-03-26 7:18:58 PM  
He ruined Unicron for everyone else. No one could ever come close.
 
2022-03-26 7:38:21 PM  
Even the little bit she's in the movie, Marlene Dietrich is brilliant

Touch of Evil - Future's All Used Up
Youtube UWtAZwxK5H0
 
2022-03-27 1:23:43 AM  
Could you film this today with a Caucasian playing a Mexican?
 
2022-03-27 12:09:03 PM  

Not_Todd: Could you film this today with a Caucasian playing a Mexican?


Well, unfortunately back then,they couldn't film the movie WITHOUT a Caucasian playing a mexican. The entire film's budget was Central upon getting Charlton Heston to agree to be cast in it. And Heston was the one who pushed to get Orson Welles to directit. However Welles did talk heston out of attempting a Mexican accent, and Heston actually did a good job in the role ,even if it would have been wonderful to see someone who is actually Hispanic play it.
 
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