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(Mother Jones)   5G expansion could make weather forecasting jump in a time machine and travel back to the 1970s   (motherjones.com) divider line
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2022-03-15 9:57:49 AM  
is it going to cause the weather to spread the covid further?  those 5g towers can only shoot it so far.
 
2022-03-15 9:58:51 AM  
24 GHz is millimeter wave, which has been a huge failure as a 5G technology. Outside of a few small areas like stadiums and some specific streets in urban areas, you aren't going to see wide deployment of those frequencies. The new iPhone SE even left out millimeter wave 5G because there wasn't much to be gained from redesigning the phone to make it work:

https://www.theverge.com/22968066/apple-iphone-se-5g-mmwave-verizon-uw

C-Band is the focus for 5G deployments now and I don't expect there will be much in the way of additional mmWave deployments in the near future. I just don't think it'll ever get deployed widely enough to impact weather forecasting in a big way.
 
2022-03-15 10:12:23 AM  
5G expansion could make weather forecasting jump in a time machine and travel back to the 1970s

So, maps with magnets and magic markers?
 
2022-03-15 10:18:01 AM  
We have the FCC for a reason.  And part of that reason is to make sure conflicts like this don't happen.
 
2022-03-15 10:24:32 AM  

enry: We have the FCC for a reason.  And part of that reason is to make sure conflicts like this don't happen.


Our institutions aren't as competent as they once were
 
2022-03-15 10:35:09 AM  

Thoreny: enry: We have the FCC for a reason.  And part of that reason is to make sure conflicts like this don't happen.

Our institutions aren't as competent as they once were


With incompetent boobs like Ajit Pai in charge you're not wrong.
 
2022-03-15 10:50:04 AM  
I just want the 600 mHz band back for wireless mics
 
2022-03-15 10:53:16 AM  

Mad_Radhu: 24 GHz is millimeter wave, which has been a huge failure as a 5G technology. Outside of a few small areas like stadiums and some specific streets in urban areas, you aren't going to see wide deployment of those frequencies. The new iPhone SE even left out millimeter wave 5G because there wasn't much to be gained from redesigning the phone to make it work:

https://www.theverge.com/22968066/apple-iphone-se-5g-mmwave-verizon-uw

C-Band is the focus for 5G deployments now and I don't expect there will be much in the way of additional mmWave deployments in the near future. I just don't think it'll ever get deployed widely enough to impact weather forecasting in a big way.


I could also see the K and Ka bands being used in urban areas for fixed P2MP wireless internet.

As for the issue in the article, it is no different than the one raised by aircraft carriers worried about adjacent channel interference buggering their telemetry systems used for landings.  You're going to need to upgrade your weather radar kit with something that has better RF rejection capabilities.
 
2022-03-15 11:21:10 AM  

enry: Thoreny: enry: We have the FCC for a reason.  And part of that reason is to make sure conflicts like this don't happen.

Our institutions aren't as competent as they once were

With incompetent boobs like Ajit Pai in charge you're not wrong.


Incompetent? He was an adroit valued employee of Verizon during his tenure, carrying out their business plan to a T.
 
2022-03-15 11:37:51 AM  
When you hear wireless internet providers talk about "expanding the 5G cellular Network," your first thought is probably, "Oh good."

No, not at all.  What did you all fark up this time, that you're going to lie about and try to get rich from anyway?
Business as usual, then.
 
2022-03-15 12:22:13 PM  

enry: Thoreny: enry: We have the FCC for a reason.  And part of that reason is to make sure conflicts like this don't happen.

Our institutions aren't as competent as they once were

With incompetent boobs like Ajit Pai in charge you're not wrong.


Yup; this was a Trump administration failure.
 
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