Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(NPR)   In yet another blow to the embattled American consumer, Uber and Lyft announce fuel surcharges will be added to fares to help drivers with higher prices. I'm going to organize a convoy to protest high gas prices. WHO'S WITH ME? *crickets*   (npr.org) divider line
    More: Murica, United States, New York City, Price, Cost, President of the United States, Joe Biden, This Week, Average  
•       •       •

904 clicks; posted to Main » and Politics » on 15 Mar 2022 at 10:35 AM (22 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



81 Comments     (+0 »)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2022-03-15 10:38:11 AM  
How long until an article comes out informing us that the surcharge monies went to corporate and not the drivers?
 
2022-03-15 10:39:31 AM  
Fark the shiat out of Uber and Lyft.
 
2022-03-15 10:39:36 AM  

wildsnowllama: How long until an article comes out informing us that the surcharge monies went to corporate and not the drivers?


No way!  That would be dishonest!
 
2022-03-15 10:39:59 AM  
Psh. I saw George Soros outside my gas station syphoning gas out of people's tanks and changing the prices of all the gas. And joe Biden was driving the get away car. We all know this is that damn Omahr's fault. Shes been hiding all the stolen votes in her oogabooga terrorist hat.
 
2022-03-15 10:40:37 AM  
Or, Uber and Lyft can start paying their drivers a living wage voluntarily. You know, without the states giving them no other option but to comply with such demands.
 
2022-03-15 10:41:19 AM  
For those who need a translation, "announe" is Latin for "one year".
 
2022-03-15 10:42:12 AM  

Veloram: Or, Uber and Lyft can start paying their drivers a living wage voluntarily. You know, without the states giving them no other option but to comply with such demands.


Hahaha

They will pay as little as it takes for people to sign up to work.
 
2022-03-15 10:42:21 AM  
Now that gas prices are falling?  
Seems to me like a price hike grift.
 
2022-03-15 10:43:49 AM  

Veloram: Or, Uber and Lyft can start paying their drivers a living wage voluntarily. You know, without the states giving them no other option but to comply with such demands.


These poor struggling companies have yet to even show a hint of profitability, and you want to saddle them with antiquated labor protection laws?  Won't you think of the shareholders?
 
2022-03-15 10:44:01 AM  
Ubered to and from the airport this weekend.

Trip there, I left early and so it was 14 bucks cheaper than anticipated so I tipped the dude 10 bucks.

Trip back, I chose Uber green and didn't feel bad about leaving a normal tip ( also, pro tip : if you are at an airport and it's possible to walk away from the airport, do that.

It was like 40 bucks more at the airport than a few blocks away.
 
2022-03-15 10:44:04 AM  
Meanwhile, Dallas and surrounding communities saw their mass transit options drop significant numbers of routes on the idea they could partner with Uber and Lyft to make cheap options to get people to the main lines.
 
2022-03-15 10:46:16 AM  
Most delivery services will be adding a fuel surcharge as well. This in turn will have the stores raise their prices too, passed on to the poor consumer.

Might see "free shipping" disappear too.
 
2022-03-15 10:46:37 AM  
If it's payment for fuel costs, it's compensation for mileage. Let's see how many drivers continue to cheat on their taxes by deducting the full mileage rate.
 
2022-03-15 10:47:25 AM  
Sorry Subby, I just don't see it.
 
2022-03-15 10:49:36 AM  
Aren't poor service and a bunch of surcharges why taxis/cabs were 'disrupted'?
 
2022-03-15 10:50:27 AM  
Thankfully Uber came through with their fleet of driverless electric vehicles back in 2016
 
2022-03-15 10:52:01 AM  

wildsnowllama: How long until an article comes out informing us that the surcharge monies went to corporate and not the drivers?


Also, "temporary" actually meant "temporary, but if our customers are willing to bear it, then as soon as it is removed it will be replaced by a functionally identical permanent fee under a different name"
 
2022-03-15 10:53:22 AM  
Speaking of gas prices, remember these pieces of shiat?

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2022-03-15 10:53:24 AM  
This would be a golden opportunity for Cabs to make a comeback if it wasn't such a gigantic pain the farking ass to even get one when your not at the airport
 
2022-03-15 10:54:51 AM  

kmfjd: Speaking of gas prices, remember these pieces of shiat?

[Fark user image image 554x1199]


Saddam wanted to be paid in gold and for that he was invaded and executed.
 
2022-03-15 10:56:47 AM  

scanson: Ubered to and from the airport this weekend.

Trip there, I left early and so it was 14 bucks cheaper than anticipated so I tipped the dude 10 bucks.

Trip back, I chose Uber green and didn't feel bad about leaving a normal tip ( also, pro tip : if you are at an airport and it's possible to walk away from the airport, do that.

It was like 40 bucks more at the airport than a few blocks away.


I got tired of getting scammed by taxis in Vegas (airport to Luxor via Nellis, e.g.) which is what prompted me to open an Uber account.

Next time I went to Vegas, at the baggage claim, there were big giant signs everywhere: TAXIS (with appropriate arrows).

The sign for rideshare was in much smaller letters, yellow on a white background, half-hidden behind an ad. When I followed it, dragging my bag, it led me outside; up a flight of stairs (no escalator); back inside, through a maze of dark, twisty passages, all alike; up an elevator; across a tightrope slung above the tiger cage; around a six-inch ledge on the edge of a tank of piranhas; down a flight of stairs, through a maze with minotaur hoofprints, up another flight of stairs, through a fire door and into a level of a parking garage where rideshare drivers came by one by one to pick up their rides.

Okay, yes, I'm exaggerating, but not by much.

This is, of course, not Uber's fault, and my only real points are:

1) They're still better than taxis and

2) Airports suck.
 
2022-03-15 10:58:57 AM  

wildsnowllama: How long until an article comes out informing us that the surcharge monies went to corporate and not the drivers?


Hey it will trickle down!
 
2022-03-15 10:59:19 AM  

mrmopar5287: If it's payment for fuel costs, it's compensation for mileage. Let's see how many drivers continue to cheat on their taxes by deducting the full mileage rate.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess most people who drive for Uber and Lyft don't have a whole lot of federal tax liability to begin with.
 
2022-03-15 11:01:05 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: 1) They're still better than taxis and


i.ytimg.comView Full Size


You no like vomit?
 
2022-03-15 11:06:10 AM  
Uber & Lyft displaced taxis and are now as bad as they ever were with less accountability.
 
2022-03-15 11:12:44 AM  
I had to call an Uber yesterday to get home (car is in the shop). First time I went to see what the charge would be, was about $10. I arranged for the ride about 15 minutes later and it had jumped to almost twice that. Someone at work suggested I walk to the other side of the building and try again to see what happens. I figured "it'll probably go up again" but, get this, it went down to about $12! I arranged for the ride just in case it spiked again.
I can't figure out why this happened.
 
2022-03-15 11:15:05 AM  
Or you could take public transit for less than 1/10 as much. The train from SeaTac to downtown is a whopping $3.
 
2022-03-15 11:21:15 AM  

ArkPanda: Or you could take public transit for less than 1/10 as much. The train from SeaTac to downtown is a whopping $3.


What?! And commingle with the poors?!
 
2022-03-15 11:29:00 AM  

mrmopar5287: If it's payment for fuel costs, it's compensation for mileage. Let's see how many drivers continue to cheat on their taxes by deducting the full mileage rate.


No, it's not
 
2022-03-15 11:40:53 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: I had to call an Uber yesterday to get home (car is in the shop). First time I went to see what the charge would be, was about $10. I arranged for the ride about 15 minutes later and it had jumped to almost twice that. Someone at work suggested I walk to the other side of the building and try again to see what happens. I figured "it'll probably go up again" but, get this, it went down to about $12! I arranged for the ride just in case it spiked again.
I can't figure out why this happened.


Algorithms calculate prices partially based on the demand at a location. If the entrance to a building has a number of pick-ups and/or drop-offs it is considered to be in demand and price fluctuations won't deter most customers. If people have to get to work or leave work, they are less likely to cancel a ride based on a price hike of a couple bucks.

If you move the pick-up or drop-off point far enough away that you get out of that location of higher demand, it fools the computer into calculating a lower price.
 
2022-03-15 11:43:25 AM  
There's a business workshop coming to a hotel ballroom near you 'How Can a Company Lose $5.2 Billion on $3.2 Billion in Revenue? Uber Executives Show How!'

For $899, it includes a binder!
 
2022-03-15 11:43:49 AM  
People keep saying to move to red states who have little to no public transportatio. infrastructure. No thanks, I'd rather not have a car.

/among other reasons
//including them steadily working towards making my existence illegal again
 
2022-03-15 11:44:30 AM  

mrmopar5287: MelGoesOnTour: I had to call an Uber yesterday to get home (car is in the shop). First time I went to see what the charge would be, was about $10. I arranged for the ride about 15 minutes later and it had jumped to almost twice that. Someone at work suggested I walk to the other side of the building and try again to see what happens. I figured "it'll probably go up again" but, get this, it went down to about $12! I arranged for the ride just in case it spiked again.
I can't figure out why this happened.

Algorithms calculate prices partially based on the demand at a location. If the entrance to a building has a number of pick-ups and/or drop-offs it is considered to be in demand and price fluctuations won't deter most customers. If people have to get to work or leave work, they are less likely to cancel a ride based on a price hike of a couple bucks.

If you move the pick-up or drop-off point far enough away that you get out of that location of higher demand, it fools the computer into calculating a lower price.


I find it's also important to stagger a block or two from the bar at which you've gotten plastered. Find a nice church or movie theater or something. It won't necessarily change your fare, but you're more likely to get a driver to accept the ride.
 
2022-03-15 11:44:32 AM  

ArkPanda: Or you could take public transit for less than 1/10 as much. The train from SeaTac to downtown is a whopping $3.


The bus ride from my house to LAX is $1.75, with less than 1/4 mile of walking.
 
2022-03-15 11:45:03 AM  

hereinNC: Now that gas prices are falling?  
Seems to me like a price hike grift.


You don't want to own a car that goes everywhere.  You want to have a car when you travel everywhere.  You don't want to pay for gas, the inconvenience of taking a ride  everywhere, the traffic jams, the parking, the time of taking care of your car, and the expenses.  You want convenience.

That's all everybody wants--convenience.  They want their lives to be easier, and they don''t to pay for it.  Someone else should pay for it, like those Uber drivers.  They don't make as much money as you do, so they should suck it up. That's how America works--the rich figure out ways to lessen their burden, and they lay it on the poor. Then they stand around and talk about what farking financial geniuses they are, and how everyone is trying to rip them off.

Is that about right?
 
2022-03-15 11:46:17 AM  

mofa: ArkPanda: Or you could take public transit for less than 1/10 as much. The train from SeaTac to downtown is a whopping $3.

The bus ride from my house to LAX is $1.75, with less than 1/4 mile of walking.


I feel ripped off, its 6.75 to catch the train to the airport in Philly.
 
2022-03-15 11:46:45 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: I had to call an Uber yesterday to get home (car is in the shop). First time I went to see what the charge would be, was about $10. I arranged for the ride about 15 minutes later and it had jumped to almost twice that. Someone at work suggested I walk to the other side of the building and try again to see what happens. I figured "it'll probably go up again" but, get this, it went down to about $12! I arranged for the ride just in case it spiked again.
I can't figure out why this happened.


If only someone could create a taxi system where prices were predictably the same in an area at all times while also at a level where drivers & owners could make a sustainable living. Sigh.

It was seriously less than 20 years ago that a hack could make a solid middle-class living their entire life driving a cab. They'd feed families. Put kids through college. Many saved up and got their own taxi medallions as a tractable & profitable small business venture. They were reliable, didn't screw you or charge BS "surge pricing," and they didn't accost or rape customers because they were monitored, regulated, screened, licensed and easily reported.

Uber & Lyft we're not improvements. They're objectively worse than the way it was.
 
2022-03-15 11:49:27 AM  

EyeballKid: ArkPanda: Or you could take public transit for less than 1/10 as much. The train from SeaTac to downtown is a whopping $3.

What?! And commingle with the poors?!


I've taken that route several times. You aren't commingling with anyone. Nobody uses it.

For reference, a taxi/uber ride from Seatac to Downtown is at least $40.
 
2022-03-15 11:52:11 AM  

GregInIndy: Uber & Lyft we're not improvements. They're objectively worse than the way it was.


We turned everything into a gig job.  Try running  a real business with a bunch of transients who might not show up for work the  next day.  Or who don't know what their job is, or who they work for, or don't know what they signed up for (because business lies), or they just made a mistake--they're out of there.  Buh-bye.
But this is how you all wanted it--just look at those low, low, prices everywhere!  We can do it, with temp workers!

/Until the resources run out.  And you all knew that was coming too.
 
2022-03-15 11:52:23 AM  

Magnanimous_J: EyeballKid: ArkPanda: Or you could take public transit for less than 1/10 as much. The train from SeaTac to downtown is a whopping $3.

What?! And commingle with the poors?!

I've taken that route several times. You aren't commingling with anyone. Nobody uses it.

For reference, a taxi/uber ride from Seatac to Downtown is at least $40.


Here in Louisville we just have a bus system that does very little unless you want to go to the Ford plant or to UPS. It's criminally underfunded in part because too much of our electorate would rather clog up the roads and burn gas in their own cars than dare being beside *those people*.
 
2022-03-15 11:53:13 AM  
For gods sake, just call a cab. Uber and Lyft are not a ride sharing service. Hire someone slightly more reputable
 
2022-03-15 11:55:35 AM  

twistedsteel5252: For gods sake, just call a cab. Uber and Lyft are not a ride sharing service. Hire someone slightly more reputable


Cabs are far more expensive and not particularly nicer.
 
2022-03-15 11:58:41 AM  

GregInIndy: Uber & Lyft we're not improvements. They're objectively worse than the way it was.


Lol no.  Pre Uber NYC:

To the yellow cab who is legally obligated to take you where you want to go in the five boroughs "Hey cabby I'm going to brooklyn/queens/bronx (I assume SI too but who the fark would ever go there)"  "Hey.. where ya going, come back?"

Calling a livery cab to pick you up, if the dispatcher speaks comprehensible English: maybe they show up when you agreed, +/- 15-20 minutes.

Picking up a livery cab on the street and negotiating illegal fare: Maybe they'll honor your agreement at destination.

Post Uber NYC:

Press button, car comes shortly, cheaper than cabs.
 
2022-03-15 11:59:54 AM  

GregInIndy: If only someone could create a taxi system where prices were predictably the same in an area at all times


This is already done with taxis. My city sets the rates with a flag fee, fee for each 1/5 of a mile, and a fee for each minute of waiting.
 
2022-03-15 12:01:14 PM  

GregInIndy: Uber & Lyft we're not improvements. They're objectively worse than the way it was.


Agreed.  However, in my neck of the woods, pre-Uber, getting a taxi could easily take 45 minutes to arrive. And then unless you had cash they'd tack on an extra couple of bucks if you used a debit/credit card.

I never had a problem with taxi's until I got tired of having to wait so long before it arrived. I usually only had to travel about 5-6 miles but with that kind of waiting period I could've walked the distance in a shorter period of time.

/no, I don't live in a big city but we *used* to have decent taxi service once upon a time
 
2022-03-15 12:07:15 PM  

wildsnowllama: How long until an article comes out informing us that the surcharge monies went to corporate and not the drivers?


My thoughts exactly.
 
2022-03-15 12:13:04 PM  

GregInIndy: Many saved up and got their own taxi medallions as a tractable & profitable small business venture


The only reason medallions had value to people who bought them was because they expected it would be an appreciating asset they could sell when they retire.

A cab driver can't sell "their business" to someone else like someone would if they ran a bakery, florist shop, hardware store, etc. They don't have a business to sell with inventory and a sales base and client list and all the other things that someone buying a business would stroke a check to take over. At best, they might own the car but selling a car is selling a car.

Cities with medallions made that into something of value (at least for a while). Capacity was artificially limited to constrain the market, and a medallion became worth something. When a driver wanted to cash out, they could sell the medallion if they owned it (and if the city allows such a transfer).

Uber completely cratered the value of taxi medallions. There are medallion owners in NYC who were suicidal because they took out loans to buy an asset that was now worth 10¢ on the dollar of what they paid and falling faster. The City of Chicago tried to plug a budget hole by selling something like 50 more tax licenses for huge dollars, and not a single person showed up at the auction to try to buy one.
 
2022-03-15 12:14:04 PM  
And it will never go away, even if every car on the planet becomes electric.
 
2022-03-15 12:14:31 PM  

grimlock1972: wildsnowllama: How long until an article comes out informing us that the surcharge monies went to corporate and not the drivers?

My thoughts exactly.


Every dime goes to corporate and then to employees. It's how every business ever has been run. Try running one where the employees decide where the money goes. Your lights will be out in a week.
 
2022-03-15 12:15:51 PM  

mrmopar5287: GregInIndy: Many saved up and got their own taxi medallions as a tractable & profitable small business venture

The only reason medallions had value to people who bought them was because they expected it would be an appreciating asset they could sell when they retire.

A cab driver can't sell "their business" to someone else like someone would if they ran a bakery, florist shop, hardware store, etc. They don't have a business to sell with inventory and a sales base and client list and all the other things that someone buying a business would stroke a check to take over. At best, they might own the car but selling a car is selling a car.

Cities with medallions made that into something of value (at least for a while). Capacity was artificially limited to constrain the market, and a medallion became worth something. When a driver wanted to cash out, they could sell the medallion if they owned it (and if the city allows such a transfer).

Uber completely cratered the value of taxi medallions. There are medallion owners in NYC who were suicidal because they took out loans to buy an asset that was now worth 10¢ on the dollar of what they paid and falling faster. The City of Chicago tried to plug a budget hole by selling something like 50 more tax licenses for huge dollars, and not a single person showed up at the auction to try to buy one.


Haha after uber I had to underwrite a foreclosure deal where the lender had secured the properties this conman bought using Medallions he had scooped up from desperate cabbies as collateral.  Oops on them.
 
Displayed 50 of 81 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.