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(CNN)   Petroleum leak from US Navy fuel farm in Hawaii upgraded from "contaminated water" to "SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN PERMANENTLY"   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-03-07 7:42:50 PM  
Well you can only ignore a problem for so long, eventually it gets into the drinking water and is now everyone's problem.

/ military brass are lousy at dealing with long term problems, by the time it matters they will be elsewhere or retired.
 
2022-03-07 9:03:28 PM  
The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.
 
2022-03-07 10:19:08 PM  

GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.


Indigenous people everywhere would agree.
 
2022-03-07 11:23:48 PM  

GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.


Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who
 
2022-03-07 11:32:08 PM  

Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who


Whacky bastards actually assumed people in the future would maintain shiat, and update it properly as new technology became available
 
2022-03-07 11:37:45 PM  
They're going to provide "best in class" environmental testing to ensure everyone is safe.  I'm sure it will be overseen by "top men".

/TOP men
 
2022-03-07 11:38:53 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who

Whacky bastards actually assumed people in the future would maintain shiat, and update it properly as new technology became available


We have the biggest military budget in history and no current wars (though we're defacto in military conflict against Russia, we just haven't shot at any Russians yet), and yet most of that money is wasted on making weapons manufacturers very wealthy instead of improving military infrastructure and pay/living conditions of our soldiers.
 
2022-03-07 11:46:51 PM  
Oh great, another reason to raise gas pirces.
 
2022-03-07 11:47:04 PM  

kdawg7736: Oh great, another reason to raise gas pirces.


*prices*

Dammit.
 
2022-03-07 11:57:59 PM  
It will take some time, there's like 100 million gallons of fuel to deal with.  And it's jet fuel and maritime fuel, so I don't think it will find its way into my car.
 
2022-03-07 11:58:03 PM  

kdawg7736: kdawg7736: Oh great, another reason to raise gas pirces.

*prices*

Dammit.


I think gas piracy is a great name for it.
 
2022-03-08 12:02:16 AM  
i think it is romantic that you could just drop a wick in a glass of water, light it, and dine by candlelight...
 
2022-03-08 12:03:31 AM  

WTP 2: i think it is romantic that you could just drop a wick in a glass of water, light it, and dine by candlelight...


That place got a bunch of zero reviews in the 40s.
 
2022-03-08 12:06:24 AM  

OkieDookie: WTP 2: i think it is romantic that you could just drop a wick in a glass of water, light it, and dine by candlelight...

That place got a bunch of zero reviews in the 40s.


because they did not do this one weird trick with a glass of water ?
 
2022-03-08 12:42:03 AM  

full8me: They're going to provide "best in class" environmental testing to ensure everyone is safe.  I'm sure it will be overseen by "top men".

/TOP men


Are they the same as trump's "best people"? Because that didn't turn out all that well.
 
2022-03-08 12:45:44 AM  
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2022-03-08 12:50:28 AM  

Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who


How else ya gonna rinse out your tanks?
 
2022-03-08 12:53:25 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who

Whacky bastards actually assumed people in the future would maintain shiat, and update it properly as new technology became available

We have the biggest military budget in history and no current wars (though we're defacto in military conflict against Russia, we just haven't shot at any Russians yet), and yet most of that money is wasted on making weapons manufacturers very wealthy instead of improving military infrastructure and pay/living conditions of our soldiers.


That's not going to provide trillions for the "Defense" industry now is it?
 
2022-03-08 1:05:54 AM  
Wtf subby? How is any of this "amusing?"
 
2022-03-08 1:24:36 AM  

Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who


The US military
 
2022-03-08 1:26:01 AM  

OkieDookie: WTP 2: i think it is romantic that you could just drop a wick in a glass of water, light it, and dine by candlelight...

That place got a bunch of zero reviews in the 40s.


By rabbis no less, quoting Torah, Torah, Torah
 
2022-03-08 1:26:05 AM  

RedVentrue: DarkSoulNoHope: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who

Whacky bastards actually assumed people in the future would maintain shiat, and update it properly as new technology became available

We have the biggest military budget in history and no current wars (though we're defacto in military conflict against Russia, we just haven't shot at any Russians yet), and yet most of that money is wasted on making weapons manufacturers very wealthy instead of improving military infrastructure and pay/living conditions of our soldiers.

That's not going to provide trillions for the "Defense" industry now is it?


Infrastructure maintenance industry needs way better lobbyists
 
2022-03-08 3:29:43 AM  
It sucks that it took people getting sick for them to acknowledge the problem, but I'm glad that they finally did.  Slow progress, but progress nonetheless.  It wasn't that long ago that the military ignored poisoning their own with Agent Orange in Vietnam and depleted uranium or burn pits or whatever caused the Gulf War Syndrom.
 
2022-03-08 6:27:41 AM  

Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who


Yeah, those dummies should have placed the fuel farm for the naval base at Pearl Harbor at Laie Point.

That's sarcasm, BTW.
 
2022-03-08 9:02:37 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Whacky bastards actually assumed people in the future would maintain shiat, and update it properly as new technology became available


Supposedly they did. I read that upgrades mean they can monitor levels inside the tanks down to the mm. So, I ask: When people started reporting petroleum in the water, didn't they almost instantly know which tank it's from since they can monitor that stuff so good?
 
2022-03-08 9:55:03 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Squik2: GardenWeasel: The fuel facility sits 100 feet above the Red Hill aquifer, which supplies drinking water to Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam and other parts of Hawaii. Nearly 1 million people on Oahu rely on it for water.

Welp. That's one way to depopulate an island.

Who the fark in their right mind would decide to put fuel storage 100 feet above an aquifer? *checks wikipedia*

Ah, people in the 1930's, that's who

Whacky bastards actually assumed people in the future would maintain shiat, and update it properly as new technology became available

We have the biggest military budget in history and no current wars (though we're defacto in military conflict against Russia, we just haven't shot at any Russians yet), and yet most of that money is wasted on making weapons manufacturers very wealthy instead of improving military infrastructure and pay/living conditions of our soldiers.


Infrastructure never looks as good on an EPR/OPR as a shiny new defense machanism that was headed up.

I always get "funnied" for this (for those playing the home game, that's the equivalent of saying, "you're a farking moron, STFU" ), but I sincerely believe that the Posts/Bases/Ports need to be run by Civilians, and the Post/Base/Port Commander needs to be a civilian.

And here's why, as mentioned up thread several times. Commanders hang out for two years, three tops. They need to "make their mark." There is active disincentive to worry about even a five year plan, let alone 10 or 20. Civilians generally stick it out a LOT longer. To prevent cronyism, all leadership has a five year max and a mobility agreement. This allows for long term plans to be established and a good base of work to begin on the first cycle. New leaders can't just come in and make THEIR mark. It's a specific discipline.

Our uniforms are built to wage war, not worry about infrastructure. Let's put in charge people who went to college to actually DO that. It breaks the system down into distinct cells, and has the HUGE perk of stopping brass from using their authority to renovate their HQ every two years (which is an endemic problem). Commanders fark up every long term plan with their pet projects. Civilians who do that crap get shiatcanned much faster, because leadership can't be union.
 
2022-03-08 10:32:58 AM  
How it works:

(Copied from the DoD's defense.gov website, March 7, 2022)

AECOM Technical Services Inc., Los Angeles, California, is awarded a $19,320,198 cost-plus-award-fee contract task order (N6274222F0122) for Red Hill drinking water monitoring at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Hawaii. The work to be performed provides for, but is not limited to, drinking water sampling services as part of the drinking water long-term monitoring related to the ongoing emergency petroleum contamination, which is currently being addressed in the Red Hill Pumping Station. The maximum dollar value is $19,320,198. Work will be performed at Oahu, Hawaii, and is expected to be completed by March 2023. Fiscal 2022 operation and maintenance (Navy) funds in the amount of $19,320,198 will be obligated at time of award, and will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command Pacific, Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Oahu, Hawaii, is the contracting activity (N62742-17-D-1800).
 
2022-03-08 12:55:58 PM  

Matt Dodson: How it works:

(Copied from the DoD's defense.gov website, March 7, 2022)

AECOM Technical Services Inc., Los Angeles, California, is awarded a $19,320,198 cost-plus-award-fee contract task order (N6274222F0122) for Red Hill drinking water monitoring at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Hawaii. The work to be performed provides for, but is not limited to, drinking water sampling services as part of the drinking water long-term monitoring related to the ongoing emergency petroleum contamination, which is currently being addressed in the Red Hill Pumping Station. The maximum dollar value is $19,320,198. Work will be performed at Oahu, Hawaii, and is expected to be completed by March 2023. Fiscal 2022 operation and maintenance (Navy) funds in the amount of $19,320,198 will be obligated at time of award, and will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command Pacific, Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Oahu, Hawaii, is the contracting activity (N62742-17-D-1800).


If I was looking for hydraulic engineering consulting work This would be where to send a resume too.

/ This kind of thing can happen with any underground storage tank, especially old ones. It's just on a immense scale here.
 
2022-03-08 1:47:28 PM  

TheWhoppah: It sucks that it took people getting sick for them to acknowledge the problem, but I'm glad that they finally did.  Slow progress, but progress nonetheless.  It wasn't that long ago that the military ignored poisoning their own with Agent Orange in Vietnam and depleted uranium or burn pits or whatever caused the Gulf War Syndrom.


There is a bill that was introduced to help with Burn Pit exposure, but nothing has been done with it for a few months:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/2436
 
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