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    More: Interesting, Operating system, Booting, USB flash drive, Chrome OS, Google Chrome, new ChromeOSFlex, Google, Google Chrome OS  
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1301 clicks; posted to STEM » on 17 Feb 2022 at 5:23 AM (26 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-02-17 1:47:25 AM  
cool.
Can I run the OS from a diskette? My IIci only has a floppy drive?
 
2022-02-17 5:38:16 AM  

solokumba: cool.
Can I run the OS from a diskette? My IIci only has a floppy drive?


Best to keep it as it is. I had to get rid of my old Power Macintosh 6100 ages ago and still regret it. I loved that electronic pizza box. CD-ROM multimedia heaven with a brilliant little CRT monitor. Now I run its software with SheepShaver, which is lovely though not quite the same as having the real thing.
 
2022-02-17 6:07:55 AM  
No thanks, the mild heat it gives off already makes it the perfect foot rest for my coffee table.
 
2022-02-17 7:04:53 AM  
Uhh, no thanks. If I'm going to install an OS on my old Macs other than MacOS, it's going to be a flavour of Linux.
 
2022-02-17 7:35:06 AM  
This is going to be less useful for old macs but there are plenty of older windows laptops with early generation i chips that could still run chromeos fine.
 
2022-02-17 7:50:57 AM  
I could see where it'd help with older machines as just light information systems however I believe Apple users would be largely firm in keeping MacOS no matter if they had alternatives available. I have a 2013 iMac at work that was really snappy on Mavericks with Acrobat X Pro + Pitstop, Photoshop, Quark, InDesign - Illustrator was so-so on loading but operated fine after loading and some other stuff. Then IT really wanted me to update it to the newest version available on the spot without having a backup. High Sierra turned it into a pile of shiat and the way certain hooks changed under the hood meant my software no longer worked and the licenses were gone *poof*. Thanks IT, this demand just pissed away some $2,500 in permanent licenses - gone - and now we get to repurchase some stuff. IT guy: Can you OS rollback? No not without the backup that you wanted me to pass on. So we get new software that was compatible with high sierra but it was incredibly sluggish. "It just needs time to cache" Nah this never got better.

Eventually bailed on it entirely as it was a major bottleneck in my workflow and spent a few hundred of company money to just build a budget workhorse windows machine. Kept Acrobat, moved to Affinity for graphics. Mac still sits there in case I need to reference old documents/templates but it doesn't get touched for any other reason.
 
2022-02-17 7:54:41 AM  
I'm reading this article on a 10 year old MacBook Pro.

Soon.....
 
2022-02-17 7:59:07 AM  
And they will support it for 1.5 years. The new OSs are not as bad as people think(including a real version of Linux).
 
2022-02-17 8:13:13 AM  
No such thing as a useless old Mac, I regret giving away my old iBook to my niece, because now I have the Call of Duty deluxe version sitting in my closet because it will only run in a PPC
 
2022-02-17 8:18:52 AM  

Gordon Bennett: solokumba: cool.
Can I run the OS from a diskette? My IIci only has a floppy drive?

Best to keep it as it is. I had to get rid of my old Power Macintosh 6100 ages ago and still regret it. I loved that electronic pizza box. CD-ROM multimedia heaven with a brilliant little CRT monitor. Now I run its software with SheepShaver, which is lovely though not quite the same as having the real thing.


Macs were always the bomb.  I sold my G3 tower and occasionally feel the sting of nostalgia about it.  OS 8.6 was fun to work with.  I tricked it out with a zip drive(!), dual monitors (two honking huge 17 inch monitors), DVD player, second hard drive, and all kinds of little extensions.  I know most of this nostalgia comes from being young and discovering what I could do with it, but it was still a great time.  Today I feel more like a user than an enthusiasts.   Hell, I can't even OPEN my Mac Mini, although it can do more than a room full of G3s could have.
 
2022-02-17 9:07:25 AM  
Technology just doesn't excite me anymore. I guess the horror of dealing with users and their expectations has blunted the wonderment I had when I was younger playing around on 1980's computers. That and the push to turn general purpose computers in to rental appliances through the cloud.
 
2022-02-17 9:18:58 AM  

blodyholy: Uhh, no thanks. If I'm going to install an OS on my old Macs other than MacOS, it's going to be a flavour of Linux.


But who will spy on everything you do?
 
2022-02-17 9:32:47 AM  

blodyholy: Uhh, no thanks. If I'm going to install an OS on my old Macs other than MacOS, it's going to be a flavour of Linux.


Agreed, I believe my 2009 MBP is going to get an Ubuntu upgrade in the next few months when I get everything backed up off the HDD.  May end up upgrading to an SSD just to speed things up at boot.
 
2022-02-17 9:39:08 AM  
I have a Chromebook. It was a nice casual web browsing machine for a while. But once I got a lightweight Windows laptop with an M2 SSD I really stopped using it. Windows boots just as fast and I usually just have it sleeping which is even faster.  The security of having Chrome OS sounds good but (jinx!) I haven't had any virus/malware infections on Windows in a long time.
 
2022-02-17 9:50:58 AM  
Chrome OS is the shiat.  Browser, printing, scanning, and you can't fark it up without serious effort, and wiping it to factory settings takes seconds.  I'll take that over a 10 year old MacBook that can't load secure websites cause it's out of date OSX version doesn't support new certificates.
 
2022-02-17 9:51:46 AM  

Grand_Theft_Audio: blodyholy: Uhh, no thanks. If I'm going to install an OS on my old Macs other than MacOS, it's going to be a flavour of Linux.

Agreed, I believe my 2009 MBP is going to get an Ubuntu upgrade in the next few months when I get everything backed up off the HDD.  May end up upgrading to an SSD just to speed things up at boot.


my 2010 MBP runs fedora linux perfectly, other than having to use the crappy opensource nvidia driver because the card is too old for the speedier version.
 
2022-02-17 9:52:54 AM  

Great_Milenko: Macs were always the bomb.


miro.medium.com
 
2022-02-17 10:19:57 AM  

Tenatra: Thanks IT, this demand just pissed away some $2,500 in permanent licenses - gone - and now we get to repurchase some stuff.


I recently sent back a M1 mac mini.  It was only twice as fast as the 2011 mac minis and lots of bought software wouldn't run on it.  It cost 2x as much and was a decade newer, it should have been at least 10x faster. The M1 was a fraction of the speed of the Ryzen so I have no idea where people get these benchmarks were it is so fast.  Safari on the new one was much slower than the decade old one and the ad block stuff didn't work right.  The old ones had max ram upgrade and 2 1tb ssd vs whatever it came with long ago but that config seems to have some heat problems.  The screen resolution also needed hacks to do clean fonts on the M1 and the smooth scrolling never quite worked right as it was jumpy.  I read text while it is moving so the fonts have to be clean.  If the new mac mini M2 better be very impressive or else I expect there won't be any more mac purchases approved at work.  The odd thing is once the devs drop their macs for Linux, they don't seem to be so adamant about getting iphones.  The non-expandability and short life span is a problem for our ISO 14001 so I'm not sure how other companies are dealing with that issue but I see Apples certificate expired so maybe they don't.
 
2022-02-17 10:20:26 AM  
"As such, Chrome OS Flex only needs 4 GB of RAM and 16 GB of storage, so any old Mac will do."

My still-functioning-perfectly iMac G4 with 768MB RAM would like to have a word with you...
 
2022-02-17 10:35:24 AM  

aarond12: "As such, Chrome OS Flex only needs 4 GB of RAM and 16 GB of storage, so any old Mac will do."

My still-functioning-perfectly iMac G4 with 768MB RAM would like to have a word with you...


I'm amazed that any moving part of that dinosaur still functions.
 
2022-02-17 10:49:16 AM  
The optical drive and hard drive have both been replaced with parts scavenged from newer, unrepairable Macs. Unfortunately, the model I have is too new to run any classic Mac OS (e.g., 8.5, 9,0) but too old to run anything later than Mac OS X 10.4.x. So, it runs a few educational games for the kids and that's about it. But otherwise, it continues to work quite well in its advanced age.
 
2022-02-17 10:53:39 AM  
Have a 2012 Mac Mini that I upgraded the HD with an SSD a few years back.
It performs surprisingly well.
It's primary use is holding back up files, and music.

Purchased it new 10 years ago, so I feel like I got my monies worth.
 
2022-02-17 10:57:37 AM  

Lexx: Chrome OS is the shiat.  Browser, printing, scanning, and you can't fark it up without serious effort, and wiping it to factory settings takes seconds.  I'll take that over a 10 year old MacBook that can't load secure websites cause it's out of date OSX version doesn't support new certificates.


A 2012 MacBook Pro can run Catalina, which should have no issues supporting new certificates.
 
2022-02-17 10:58:55 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lexx: Chrome OS is the shiat.  Browser, printing, scanning, and you can't fark it up without serious effort, and wiping it to factory settings takes seconds.  I'll take that over a 10 year old MacBook that can't load secure websites cause it's out of date OSX version doesn't support new certificates.

A 2012 MacBook Pro can run Catalina, which should have no issues supporting new certificates.


Just say no to paying for OS updates.
 
2022-02-17 11:00:41 AM  

Lexx: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lexx: Chrome OS is the shiat.  Browser, printing, scanning, and you can't fark it up without serious effort, and wiping it to factory settings takes seconds.  I'll take that over a 10 year old MacBook that can't load secure websites cause it's out of date OSX version doesn't support new certificates.

A 2012 MacBook Pro can run Catalina, which should have no issues supporting new certificates.

Just say no to paying for OS updates.


It's a free update.
 
2022-02-17 11:05:29 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lexx: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lexx: Chrome OS is the shiat.  Browser, printing, scanning, and you can't fark it up without serious effort, and wiping it to factory settings takes seconds.  I'll take that over a 10 year old MacBook that can't load secure websites cause it's out of date OSX version doesn't support new certificates.

A 2012 MacBook Pro can run Catalina, which should have no issues supporting new certificates.

Just say no to paying for OS updates.

It's a free update.


Ahh spoke to wifey.  She's just been gun shy about updates since all her macs have run slower after.  I'll try to convince her.
 
2022-02-17 11:16:49 AM  

Lexx: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lexx: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Lexx: Chrome OS is the shiat.  Browser, printing, scanning, and you can't fark it up without serious effort, and wiping it to factory settings takes seconds.  I'll take that over a 10 year old MacBook that can't load secure websites cause it's out of date OSX version doesn't support new certificates.

A 2012 MacBook Pro can run Catalina, which should have no issues supporting new certificates.

Just say no to paying for OS updates.

It's a free update.

Ahh spoke to wifey.  She's just been gun shy about updates since all her macs have run slower after.  I'll try to convince her.


Pick up a cheap SSD if you can, and upgrade the thing.
Makes a huge difference in performance.
 
2022-02-17 2:44:50 PM  

blodyholy: Uhh, no thanks. If I'm going to install an OS on my old Macs other than MacOS, it's going to be a flavour of Linux.


IIRC, Chrome OS uses a Linux kernel with some Gentoo mixed in
 
2022-02-17 4:33:52 PM  
Chrome? Better to make your old Mac into a fish tank instead.
 
2022-02-17 6:25:33 PM  

petec: blodyholy: Uhh, no thanks. If I'm going to install an OS on my old Macs other than MacOS, it's going to be a flavour of Linux.

IIRC, Chrome OS uses a Linux kernel with some Gentoo preinstalled spyware mixed in

 
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