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2022-02-14 2:54:25 PM  
The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.
 
2022-02-14 3:18:24 PM  
Mother, should I run for president?


/mommas gonna keep baby cozy and warm
 
2022-02-14 4:22:02 PM  
Fark you Facebook!

Targeted advertising ought to be restricted to just 2 data points, time of day and country.

You're enemies of informed representative governance.
 
2022-02-14 5:30:19 PM  

eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.


But they have so much damn cash they can just buy whatever is the next big thing like they already have.
 
2022-02-14 5:59:04 PM  
RICO FACEBOOK
 
2022-02-14 6:03:18 PM  
98% of Facebook profits came from advertising. Should have put some eggs in different baskets, Zuck.
 
2022-02-14 6:23:12 PM  

eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.


You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.
 
2022-02-14 6:45:00 PM  

WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.


The tracking and ad network also extends far beyond facebook.com and its companies. If your browser loads "Like us on Facebook" or "Share this on Facebook" buttons, or ads from Facebook's networks, that's also tracking you.
 
2022-02-14 7:38:25 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Fark you Facebook!

Targeted advertising ought to be restricted to just 2 data points, time of day and country.

You're enemies of informed representative governance.


Oh, no, not at all.  I get the FB hate and agree with much of it but if nothing else, geofencing to a much smaller division than country is great. The local pizzeria can reach out to people affordably with it.
 
2022-02-14 7:42:11 PM  

WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.


You're both right, of course.

Yeah, Facebook is still where most local small business have their web presence. And it's also where local community organizations publish their calendars and communicate with their members.

But apart from that...it really is just a place for right-wing nutjobs to jerk each other off. There is a small contingent of people that argue with them, but over the past few years, most of those people have realized the futility of it all and given up.

If you still have a Facebook account, it's likely that you are no more than 2 or 3 "degrees of separation" from a right-wing moron. I would say that for most people that are over 40, they are *one* degree away. The boomer crowd really went all-in for Trump.
 
2022-02-14 8:20:56 PM  

eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.


Lot of queers and POC on there, too. Sorry you keep forgetting we exist.
 
2022-02-14 8:30:14 PM  
Zuckerberg can blame Apple all he wants, but Facebook users aren't just not growing, they're leaving the platform.  The newfeed style took a lot of the social experience with your friends and jammed a bunch of people and things in your face that you didn't want to see.  Even blocking certain advertisement and people didn't stop them from popping up as "Your friend like this." posts

I genuinely want to be shown the things I am interested in.  But the truth is that even Facebook's advertising algorithm wasn't really that great at targeted advertising, it was just a single platform that made it relatively cheap to reach even more of the lowest common denominator.  Expecting people to want to be associated with pandering to farking racists and fascists was pretty darn evil and stupid too.
 
2022-02-14 9:16:37 PM  
I'm getting the impression that Facebook knew this train was coming into the station and that's why they started shifting to their current Meta crap.  Its a distraction from Facebook's primary business hitting a brick wall it cannot avoid because of shady ass business practices and the fact there are only so many human beings in existence whose information can be monetized.

Hell, the only reason I am on Facebook is to keep tabs on community crap, communicate with close friends and family and to use my Quest 2.  The instant I can get my hands on another VR system that isn't tied to a specific platform though, I'm ditching the Quest 2.  Nice hardware but its got its mouth attached to Facebook's butthole, and the instant I can afford to get out of this techbro human centipede, I will.
 
2022-02-14 10:20:06 PM  

WeatherNerd: I'm getting the impression that Facebook knew this train was coming into the station and that's why they started shifting to their current Meta crap.  Its a distraction from Facebook's primary business hitting a brick wall it cannot avoid because of shady ass business practices and the fact there are only so many human beings in existence whose information can be monetized.

Hell, the only reason I am on Facebook is to keep tabs on community crap, communicate with close friends and family and to use my Quest 2.  The instant I can get my hands on another VR system that isn't tied to a specific platform though, I'm ditching the Quest 2.  Nice hardware but its got its mouth attached to Facebook's butthole, and the instant I can afford to get out of this techbro human centipede, I will.


Facebook has peaked in its user base and its user base is getting older everyday.

Zuck hasn't had any new ideas in 18 years. The Metaverse is not a new idea by any means.

He's getting desperate.
 
2022-02-14 10:33:05 PM  

WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.


I am not going to find the studies right, but Facebook can not be used to recruit volunteers for any study that has to go through a IRB because the of inherent bias Facebook users, the exception being studies of white nationalists and racists in general
 
2022-02-14 10:56:19 PM  

eurotrader: WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.

I am not going to find the studies right, but Facebook can not be used to recruit volunteers for any study that has to go through a IRB because the of inherent bias Facebook users, the exception being studies of white nationalists and racists in general


IRB?
 
2022-02-14 11:05:18 PM  

MetaDeth: eurotrader: WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.

I am not going to find the studies right, but Facebook can not be used to recruit volunteers for any study that has to go through a IRB because the of inherent bias Facebook users, the exception being studies of white nationalists and racists in general

IRB?


Institutional review board or ethics review board etc. Needed for any study to be considered valid and ethical
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_review_board
 
2022-02-14 11:11:01 PM  

eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.


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2022-02-14 11:15:37 PM  

realmolo: WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.

You're both right, of course.

Yeah, Facebook is still where most local small business have their web presence. And it's also where local community organizations publish their calendars and communicate with their members.

But apart from that...it really is just a place for right-wing nutjobs to jerk each other off. There is a small contingent of people that argue with them, but over the past few years, most of those people have realized the futility of it all and given up.

If you still have a Facebook account, it's likely that you are no more than 2 or 3 "degrees of separation" from a right-wing moron. I would say that for most people that are over 40, they are *one* degree away. The boomer crowd really went all-in for Trump.


How do boomers keep getting younger and younger?
 
2022-02-15 12:09:24 AM  

austerity101: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

Lot of queers and POC on there, too. Sorry you keep forgetting we exist.


Yes. There's nowhere else you could possibly go. Just a painfully old, terrifyingly anti-Democratic, and crazily addictive social media site filled to the brim with right-wing lunatics.
 
2022-02-15 12:10:09 AM  

chitownmike: realmolo: WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.

You're both right, of course.

Yeah, Facebook is still where most local small business have their web presence. And it's also where local community organizations publish their calendars and communicate with their members.

But apart from that...it really is just a place for right-wing nutjobs to jerk each other off. There is a small contingent of people that argue with them, but over the past few years, most of those people have realized the futility of it all and given up.

If you still have a Facebook account, it's likely that you are no more than 2 or 3 "degrees of separation" from a right-wing moron. I would say that for most people that are over 40, they are *one* degree away. The boomer crowd really went all-in for Trump.

How do boomers keep getting younger and younger?


Boomer is an age, but it's also a state of mind. Hence Xoomers, Zoomers, etc.
 
2022-02-15 9:46:44 AM  

WhackingDay: eurotrader: The only people left on Facebook are middle aged and older white women and the insurrection crowd. Betting no one in the US under 22 is even on Facebook.

You would be unpleasantly surprised. It's still a dirt cheap way of putting a business online. And just about any community organization is going to be on it too. In fact may of those groups only have a Facebook presence and nothing else. I kept wondering why I was out of the loop on all youth baseball teams in my area, trying to figure out how people knew about tryouts and all the rest only to find out it was all on goddamn facebook.


I dislike FB and stayed off it for years even as its popularity boomed...but one year the local softball league I was on a team off essentially decided to move 100% of its organizational structure to Facebook, and it was be on Facebook or have no ability to communicate with your team, or know about cancellations, or whatever.

When I moved away and was no longer in said league I stopped using FB, but then I joined a different organization a year after moving, and they too did all their communication via FB.

I get it. It's cheap, it's easy, it costs nothing (EXCEPT YOUR SOUL). It provides a lot of functionality that otherwise costs money if you want to create your own site. But it's also evil.
 
2022-02-15 12:53:12 PM  
Oh no.
 
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