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(8 News Now)   Boss, boss. Our bar was just held up and the gunman got $4,000. That's a shame. How do you plan to pay me back?   (8newsnow.com) divider line
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2022-02-02 6:06:29 PM  
Casey's General Stores has pulled that crap as well.
 
2022-02-02 6:35:19 PM  
The Dunkin Donuts I worked at was held up at gunpoint, and the district manager tried to get the manager on duty to pay back the money.  She was 17.  She said no.
 
2022-02-02 6:37:12 PM  

Xythero: The Dunkin Donuts I worked at was held up at gunpoint, and the district manager tried to get the manager on duty to pay back the money.  She was 17.  She said no.


Same thing happened to me when I worked for Subway in 1994. Told the owner to eat shiat.
 
2022-02-02 6:37:42 PM  
Reasons why we need unions, #2,355,182...
 
2022-02-02 6:38:42 PM  
"You didn't die to protect my money, pay up asshole."

I'd expect this near parody behavior from people so rich that cash is coming out of their ears, not from some dickhead who owns a bar that's probably not that good.
 
2022-02-02 6:39:27 PM  
Judging by the Vegas bartenders I've met - it was an inside job.
 
2022-02-02 6:39:44 PM  
They should have gotten the money back from the robber
 
2022-02-02 6:39:57 PM  

Alebak: "You didn't die to protect my money, pay up asshole."

I'd expect this near parody behavior from people so rich that cash is coming out of their ears, not from some dickhead who owns a bar that's probably not that good.


Have you ever met a bar owner? Because yeah. Literally all shady.
 
2022-02-02 6:40:28 PM  
In 1994, when I was robbed at gunpoint, while working the graveyard shift at the Fabulous Inn on Hotel Circle in San Diego, I was told to go home early. fark robbers.
 
2022-02-02 6:40:51 PM  
Isn't this what insurance is for?
 
2022-02-02 6:41:03 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Reasons why we need unions, #2,355,182...


Or a government that, you know, actually gives a fark about employees.
 
2022-02-02 6:41:31 PM  
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2022-02-02 6:41:34 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: DarkSoulNoHope: Reasons why we need unions, #2,355,182...

Or a government that, you know, actually gives a fark about employees.


Why not both?
 
2022-02-02 6:41:39 PM  
Meanwhile, any training for those kinds of jobs usually has a "don't chase after a thief" moment.
 
2022-02-02 6:42:19 PM  
Got robbed at an old Ramada Inn in 86.  Usually, we have 500 in the drawer but the previous shift left me with a $240 check.  So, the guys got away with $260.   Most nights I'd have over a thousand by that time.

They wanted me to pay them back.  The cops were sure it was me until the Holiday Inn across the street got robbed and the clerk locked them between the doors.  Then the cops were my buds.  I needed to testify and put them away for a long time.  But then plea deal.
 
2022-02-02 6:43:29 PM  
Why was there $4000 in the till?
 
2022-02-02 6:46:02 PM  
Gladly, my state has very clear laws against this.  Even asking an employee to pay for lost, stolen, or damaged property is grounds for a lawsuit.  It should be a federal law.
 
2022-02-02 6:49:08 PM  
I paid for a dine and dash for a server I liked at a restaurant I liked.

I never went back.
 
2022-02-02 6:49:27 PM  
If my boss acted like that I'd sterilize his wife.
 
2022-02-02 6:51:09 PM  

spleef420: Xythero: The Dunkin Donuts I worked at was held up at gunpoint, and the district manager tried to get the manager on duty to pay back the money.  She was 17.  She said no.

Same thing happened to me when I worked for Subway in 1994. Told the owner to eat shiat.


Bet if they would have gotten you or her to pay them back, they still would have turned in the insurance claim.
 
2022-02-02 6:51:26 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Judging by the Vegas bartenders I've met - it was an inside job.


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2022-02-02 6:52:12 PM  

wildcardjack: Why was there $4000 in the till?


Bar probably gave the dude the choice to answer that question or sign the release.
 
2022-02-02 6:52:54 PM  

Suflig: If my boss acted like that I'd sterilize his wife.


Nah you impregnate the wife. With triplets so he has to spend that much more money taking care of the crotchfruit.

Or you get the demand for repayment in writing, go to the police and have them charged with extortion. And sue like this guy is.
 
2022-02-02 6:53:38 PM  

Suflig: If my boss acted like that I'd sterilize fertilize his wife.


FTFY
 
2022-02-02 6:53:46 PM  
He got a $5,500 settlement and didn't accept it. He won't get more.
 
2022-02-02 6:54:57 PM  
When I was young, I got robbed twice a week apart while working at a gas station in a rough part of town. First time my boss just wanted to make sure I was ok. He also said he'd understand if I wanted to quit. I didn't quit and got robbed again a week later. Again my boss wanted to make sure I was ok. I quit that time and my boss completely understood. I found out later that my much older boss was a major coke dealer on the side. Kept his day job as cover for the family.

The moral of the story is that if you take a job where you might get robbed, make sure your boss is a coke dealer.
 
2022-02-02 6:58:45 PM  

wildcardjack: Why was there $4000 in the till?


This is likely the issue. While I don't agree with demanding employees repay money in these circumstances, most businesses who deal in cash have strict policies regarding safe drops. When I worked in a gas station in high school we had to drop whenever we had more than $200 in the till. We were even told that cash drops took priority over serving customers, so saying "we were real busy" wasn't an excuse.

In fact we were robbed once and the police found out pretty quick the employee on shift that night was in on it because he didn't do any drops his entire shift even though it wasn't that busy.

austerity101: Isn't this what insurance is for?


Most commercial insurance policies have a $5000 deductible. Even if a lower deductible is available they're expensive plus your rates go up when you make a claim, so need to decide if making a claim is worth it in the long run.
 
2022-02-02 7:02:17 PM  
i remember this from around when it happened or whenever the 'agreement' was leaked

it was illegal bullshiat then too.  too bad it took them firing him for him to realize he got farked
 
2022-02-02 7:03:48 PM  
you want me to get you  your money back?  well what's the number to your insurance company?  you do have insurance right?
 
2022-02-02 7:05:44 PM  
This gives me an idea for a short story...

Robber keeps hitting the same place over and over, and the boss keeps asking for the employees to pay it back.

Twist #1- The boss is in on it with the robber... pays him a tiny cut that is less than what he'd have paid the employees, and secretly collects insurance on the loss too.

Twist #2- The employees figure it out and work out their revenge with the recurring robber.
 
2022-02-02 7:08:00 PM  

Tyrosine: Most commercial insurance policies have a $5000 deductible. Even if a lower deductible is available they're expensive plus your rates go up when you make a claim, so need to decide if making a claim is worth it in the long run.


This may be a stupid question, but why would you have to consider? Write out the claim and be done with it. The sooner the limit is hit, the "better." "I won't claim this 4k theft because I have a 5k deductible" makes no sense because then the next 2k theft will also fall completely within the deductible limit.
 
2022-02-02 7:14:54 PM  

DerAppie: Tyrosine: Most commercial insurance policies have a $5000 deductible. Even if a lower deductible is available they're expensive plus your rates go up when you make a claim, so need to decide if making a claim is worth it in the long run.

This may be a stupid question, but why would you have to consider? Write out the claim and be done with it. The sooner the limit is hit, the "better." "I won't claim this 4k theft because I have a 5k deductible" makes no sense because then the next 2k theft will also fall completely within the deductible limit.


The lower the deductible, the cheaper the premiums. And it can be a significant savings. I upped my deductible for my homeowners policy from $1000 to $5000 and the rate dropped by half, which is a 5 year return. Considering I haven't made a claim in 18 years it's the smart move as long as I can stand the loss of $5000 if I ever need to make a claim in the future, which I can.
 
2022-02-02 7:15:43 PM  

DerAppie: Tyrosine: Most commercial insurance policies have a $5000 deductible. Even if a lower deductible is available they're expensive plus your rates go up when you make a claim, so need to decide if making a claim is worth it in the long run.

This may be a stupid question, but why would you have to consider? Write out the claim and be done with it. The sooner the limit is hit, the "better." "I won't claim this 4k theft because I have a 5k deductible" makes no sense because then the next 2k theft will also fall completely within the deductible limit.


Deductibles on business lines are usually "per incident", not per year.  And beyond that, filing any claim may increase your rates.
 
2022-02-02 7:16:21 PM  

DerAppie: Tyrosine: Most commercial insurance policies have a $5000 deductible. Even if a lower deductible is available they're expensive plus your rates go up when you make a claim, so need to decide if making a claim is worth it in the long run.

This may be a stupid question, but why would you have to consider? Write out the claim and be done with it. The sooner the limit is hit, the "better." "I won't claim this 4k theft because I have a 5k deductible" makes no sense because then the next 2k theft will also fall completely within the deductible limit.


Deductibles are per incident.  Also you want to limit claims to those that you can't recoup on your own if possible.  Insurance isn't a bottomless pool...too many claims will get your policy not renewed. I learned that the hard way.
 
2022-02-02 7:16:21 PM  
Empty the tills into a safe you dipshiat boss
 
2022-02-02 7:16:47 PM  

DerAppie: Tyrosine: Most commercial insurance policies have a $5000 deductible. Even if a lower deductible is available they're expensive plus your rates go up when you make a claim, so need to decide if making a claim is worth it in the long run.

This may be a stupid question, but why would you have to consider? Write out the claim and be done with it. The sooner the limit is hit, the "better." "I won't claim this 4k theft because I have a 5k deductible" makes no sense because then the next 2k theft will also fall completely within the deductible limit.


Depends on the deductible provision, but many insurance deductibles are per-occurrence, not per-year. If you make a $4K claim on a policy with a $5K per occurrence deductible, you won't get paid out, it won't go toward a cumulative deductible AND your premiums will go up because you made a claim.
 
2022-02-02 7:17:25 PM  
Police charged the armed robber, later identified as Jack McLaughlin, 43, in a string of armed robberies from September to December of 2020.

I knew that McLaughlin Group was up to no good... I mean just look at some of the members and the nefarious plans no doubt brewing in their criminal minds...

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2022-02-02 7:17:38 PM  
I worked in a gas station between high school and college.  One evening I was robbed.  Clearly the person had been watching the place because he came shortly after the evening commuter rush had died down.  I was given a rash of crap because he got nearly $100.  Company police is to do a safe drop when you hit $50.  Except I had been too busy with customers up until then and was about to do a drop when the dude with a gun walked in.  If he had waited 10 more minutes he would have netted all of twenty bucks.  If they had tried to get me to pay them that money, I would have laughed in their face.

I quit a few weeks later because someone who worked there was doing funky things and my counts were always coming up short.  I know who it was.  A few times she insisted I had shorted the drawer by ten bucks.  I was working the closing shift, she was working the opening shift.  I think she was also filling her tank regularly then tweaking the numbers so it came out of my shift.
 
2022-02-02 7:20:55 PM  

WastrelWay: He got a $5,500 settlement and didn't accept it. He won't get more.


I'm betting the hope is for the kind of punitive damages that will make an example out of the employer and keep others from thinking about doing the same thing.  Employers tend to pull this kind of shiat on people who don't know their rights and don't have ready access to the legal system, so the bet is that they won't get sued and/or people won't complain to the state Board of Labor.  Punitive damages are an attempt to make that a losing bet.
 
2022-02-02 7:21:22 PM  

phishrace: When I was young, I got robbed twice a week apart while working at a gas station in a rough part of town. First time my boss just wanted to make sure I was ok. He also said he'd understand if I wanted to quit. I didn't quit and got robbed again a week later. Again my boss wanted to make sure I was ok. I quit that time and my boss completely understood. I found out later that my much older boss was a major coke dealer on the side. Kept his day job as cover for the family.

The moral of the story is that if you take a job where you might get robbed, make sure your boss is a coke dealer.


this is solid advice.
 
2022-02-02 7:21:43 PM  
On one hand, they really shouldn't have signed that repayment agreement without a lawyer advising them. On the other, if they didn't do it right then, they could have risked having the cops come and throw them in jail, which means no money coming in instead of some due to the agreement and would have completely derailed their life instead of just mostly derailed.

Life sucks.
 
2022-02-02 7:22:56 PM  

Iczer: Police charged the armed robber, later identified as Jack McLaughlin, 43, in a string of armed robberies from September to December of 2020.

I knew that McLaughlin Group was up to no good... I mean just look at some of the members and the nefarious plans no doubt brewing in their criminal minds...

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2022-02-02 7:23:01 PM  
I had a job in a salon staffed by the owners.  Just the three of us and it was awesome.  She was already a friend of the family so it was real cozy.  Part of my job was walking the cash deposit to the bank three rooms down.

One day about a half hour after I left the bank got robbed.  When my boss heard about it she was nearly beside herself that I was "almost" there for it.  It was both hilarious and very, very sweet.  She never asked me to go to the bank again.

Best boss I've ever had.
 
2022-02-02 7:23:45 PM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: I had a job in a salon staffed by the owners.  Just the three of us and it was awesome.  She was already a friend of the family so it was real cozy.  Part of my job was walking the cash deposit to the bank three rooms down.

One day about a half hour after I left the bank got robbed.  When my boss heard about it she was nearly beside herself that I was "almost" there for it.  It was both hilarious and very, very sweet.  She never asked me to go to the bank again.

Best boss I've ever had.


Three doors down, not rooms.  Eat balls, autocorrect.
 
2022-02-02 7:26:27 PM  

austerity101: Isn't this what insurance is for?


Well, then your insurance rate goes up.  Easier to just get it back from the front line staff, who don't have ready access to a legal department.

That's USA 101.
 
2022-02-02 7:31:56 PM  

Alebak: "You didn't die to protect my money, pay up asshole."

I'd expect this near parody behavior from people so rich that cash is coming out of their ears, not from some dickhead who owns a bar that's probably not that good.


Eh, in my experience, a lot of the biggest cheapskates are shiatty small business owners with no concept of what something actually costs or who is at fault.

-Local coffee shop/board game hub here in the South opened with a foot of snow outside because he apparently didn't understand operating costs. Even posted a pic of an empty store floor to social media. They're no longer around.

-I've seen multiple signs posted by managers telling employees not to charge their phones at work because they seriously think it will cost them something significant and not less than a dollar a year total.

-Millions of conservative jackasses who think the US tax rate, one of the lowest in the developed world, is the reason they aren't a gazillionare when they make $30k a year.

-This guy, blaming the robbery's success on the employee.
 
2022-02-02 7:34:56 PM  
Why are they fighting for jobs?  I thought employers couldn't find anyone?
 
2022-02-02 7:53:37 PM  

TheSubjunctive: Deductibles on business lines are usually "per incident", not per year. And beyond that, filing any claim may increase your rates.


Abox: Deductibles are per incident.


indylaw: Depends on the deductible provision, but many insurance deductibles are per-occurrence, not per-year.


Your insurances are weird.

I pay like 3,74 euro a month for my liability insurance. It has a payout limit of like 2.5 million euro (which generally covers when I accidentally do something that would cause lasting harm to a person), or 12,500 euro to borrowed items. And a deductable of 0 euro per year.

I mean, I once accidentally pierced the cloth of someone's tent once when we were setting it up. I filled out the form, send it in, and they got the repairs reimbursed without issue. It cost me literally nothing.

The insurance on my house and its contents is 16 euro a month. It covers broken windows, fire, flood, moving damage (i.e. when I moved here and I dropped something, it would have been covered), leakages, knocking stuff over while vacuuming etc. With a 0 euro deductible. I could literally make a claim for a glass that breaks while doing the dishes if I wanted to.
 
2022-02-02 7:54:00 PM  
This is why you do cash drops. The register takes "X" amount of cash sales, all sales stop, you do a drop. The cash is in a safe with limited access. Asshole robber gets like, 50 hucks.
 
2022-02-02 7:57:47 PM  
Worked at McDonald's senior year of high school, 2000-2001. I actually read the employee manual and noted two things.

1: If you are robbed, you are written up.
2: if you are written up 3 times you are fired.

So I thought about that and took the employee manual to management and said, okay. We are on the i94 corridor between Chicago and Detroit. Being robbed at gunpoint is not a distant possibility. So, why the hell is a robbery our fault to the point of writeup, and why do three robberies equal firing?!

They told me at that point they'd assume the person was in on it.

Anyway: pretty sure this is what insurance is for.
 
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