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(Duluth News Tribune)   Duluth residents told to turn their heat down to 62 after highway construction hits natural gas line. The real story here is that someone was actually working on a Minnesota highway project   (duluthnewstribune.com) divider line
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2022-01-29 1:41:15 AM  
In Winter, no less.

There are supposed to be TWO seasons here. Winter and Road Construction. And now we have them doing it in Winter???
 
2022-01-29 1:44:56 AM  
 
2022-01-29 1:49:01 AM  
A that construction company is SO boned unless the dig marking service screwed up royally.

Also it's good to have a few electric heaters around. While natural gas is probably the most reliable utility for most folks in North America, because it's almost completely buried, stuff like this and pipeline ruptures do happen.
 
2022-01-29 1:54:13 AM  
Pilings are one of the things you can do in winter without too much hassle really.  You're just digging a big hole and dropping and connecting pre-stressed concrete sections mostly - and the heavy digging equipment really doesn't GAF about a layer of frozen topsoil much
 
2022-01-29 1:56:03 AM  
The best way to stockpile natural gas is to fill a garbage bag right from the gas spigot.

Then tape it to a road flare to keep it from floating away.
 
2022-01-29 1:57:54 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Pilings are one of the things you can do in winter without too much hassle really.  You're just digging a big hole and dropping and connecting pre-stressed concrete sections mostly - and the heavy digging equipment really doesn't GAF about a layer of frozen topsoil much


Well, that was meant to be a reply to Binary, but I'm too incompetent to hit quote today so... oops
 
2022-01-29 2:03:17 AM  
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2022-01-29 2:11:23 AM  

robodog: A that construction company is SO boned unless the dig marking service screwed up royally.

Also it's good to have a few electric heaters around. While natural gas is probably the most reliable utility for most folks in North America, because it's almost completely buried, stuff like this and pipeline ruptures do happen.


A rowhome in Philly near mine had a pipeline explode under it and make the block look like it lost a tooth.  Nobody acted surprised, like it was a regular occurrence.
 
2022-01-29 2:37:11 AM  
any true duluthite sets heating below 60 anyway so this is nbd
 
2022-01-29 3:35:54 AM  
Just light a couple hundred candles. That will keep you warm.

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2022-01-29 5:22:55 AM  
So Duluth's not on fire?
 
2022-01-29 6:37:49 AM  
2nd attempt at a non paywall version of this story.
key takaway.. Pile driver creates gaping hole in city's 12" gas main.  Phrasing.

https://www.fox21online.com/2022/01/28/gas-line-break-has-thousands-of-duluth-homes-turning-thermostats-down/
 
2022-01-29 7:26:35 AM  

atlantic_lotion: any true duluthite sets heating below 60 anyway so this is nbd


Lived in MN for a few years and picked up a few bad habits there -  keep our heat around 64F by day and drop it to 58F at night...

/ married a Swede
 
2022-01-29 7:42:42 AM  
It's Duluth. Subby probably meant turn the heat up to 62.
 
2022-01-29 8:45:37 AM  
My mother kept our heat at 62.  And she could tell immediately if you touched the thermostat.


Cold? "Put on a sweater"

Pretty sure this is why I have the radiators turned off in my apartment.
 
2022-01-29 10:05:17 AM  
Road workers actually doing road work in MN is a hard concept to swallow. We call the stretch of 35 between Duluth and the Twin Cities the "Permanent Construction Zone" aka "MNDOT Traffic Cone Storage". No matter what time of year or time of day you go, somewhere along that trip will be a stretch of coned-off single-lane freeway, with 10mph traffic and not a single worker or construction vehicle in sight.
 
2022-01-29 12:45:09 PM  
"I AIN'T TURNING MY HEAT DOWN, I HAVE MY RIGHTS" followed by "You idiot, 62 is better than -10, our entire neighborhood will be without actual fuel due to your selfishness."  "I'M TURNING UP MY HEAT THEN SO MY FAMILY HAS LONGER TO FREEZE TO DEATH."  "Like, this is only supposed to be out for 6 or something hours."

The sad part is none of that is surprising anymore.  You can obviously tell with zero effort the position these folks have about masks and vaccines, but also insisting they have free reign of the hospital when they inevitably show up.

/sets it 64
//backup fireplace
 
2022-01-29 1:13:00 PM  

robodog: A that construction company is SO boned unless the dig marking service screwed up royally.

Also it's good to have a few electric heaters around. While natural gas is probably the most reliable utility for most folks in North America, because it's almost completely buried, stuff like this and pipeline ruptures do happen.


Yeah, I wonder how this happened. The location of a 12 inch main gas line should be well known, and easy to locate.
 
2022-01-29 3:08:07 PM  
Situations like this are why I have a kerosene heater.  I bought it specifically in case of a power or gas outage.  Also works well for keeping my garage warm for winter projects.

62 degrees?  Pfft.  I keep my house at 64 most hours of winter.  Thermostat kicks it to 68 from 6a to 9a.
 
2022-01-29 6:03:26 PM  

Crackpipe: robodog: A that construction company is SO boned unless the dig marking service screwed up royally.

Also it's good to have a few electric heaters around. While natural gas is probably the most reliable utility for most folks in North America, because it's almost completely buried, stuff like this and pipeline ruptures do happen.

Yeah, I wonder how this happened. The location of a 12 inch main gas line should be well known, and easy to locate.


You would think so, but not always.  I lived in an area not too long ago where they were doing pretty substantial road construction, so something planned well in advance and requiring lots and lots of eyes on the project.  There was going to be digging, blasting, etc.  Anyhow, at as they started digging along the road they got to a point where suddenly, gas line.  Not "it's in the wrong location" kind of surprise, but rather "well that's not on any of the maps" kind of surprise.  It liked doubled the length of the project because suddenly blasting was off the table.
 
2022-01-29 6:41:25 PM  

New Rising Sun: Crackpipe: robodog: A that construction company is SO boned unless the dig marking service screwed up royally.

Also it's good to have a few electric heaters around. While natural gas is probably the most reliable utility for most folks in North America, because it's almost completely buried, stuff like this and pipeline ruptures do happen.

Yeah, I wonder how this happened. The location of a 12 inch main gas line should be well known, and easy to locate.

You would think so, but not always.  I lived in an area not too long ago where they were doing pretty substantial road construction, so something planned well in advance and requiring lots and lots of eyes on the project.  There was going to be digging, blasting, etc.  Anyhow, at as they started digging along the road they got to a point where suddenly, gas line.  Not "it's in the wrong location" kind of surprise, but rather "well that's not on any of the maps" kind of surprise.  It liked doubled the length of the project because suddenly blasting was off the table.


I made my comment based on my experience as a foreman on residential construction projects that included installing a lot of underground utilities. I can't even count the number of times I called the "diggers hotline" to request location marking of existing underground utilities. Granted, there's a lot of potential for mistakes and miscommunication in large construction projects. It would be interesting to know the details of how this farkup occurred.
 
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