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(NJ.com)   OK, time to come clean. The real reason you warm up your car in the winter is because you're wimps who don't want to be cold   (nj.com) divider line
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2022-01-27 9:56:58 AM  
That is absolutely my reason for my remote starter!
 
2022-01-27 9:59:42 AM  
I don't
 
2022-01-27 10:02:12 AM  
I do it because subby touches himself at night.
 
2022-01-27 10:04:24 AM  
I do it because I have a 12 minute commute and I can afford to spend money on gas in order to be comfortable.
 
2022-01-27 10:06:35 AM  
"Vehicles today are much more sophisticated than they were, say 15 or 20 years ago, when it was recommended to warm it up,"

In that case, my guess is that plenty of Farkers warm up their 15 or 20 year old vehicles.
 
2022-01-27 10:08:30 AM  
It was -18 when I got up this morning. Damn right I'm warming up the car.
 
2022-01-27 10:18:08 AM  
I don't usually let my car warm up for more than the amount of time it takes me to clean off the ice and snow. I'm very impatient when I have somewhere I want to go and the heater will start blowing warm air sooner if the engine is under load anyway
 
2022-01-27 10:19:55 AM  
I'll let my car warm up a little. It's a little Honda and it doesn't take long to get the heat going.
 
2022-01-27 10:20:28 AM  

basscomm: I don't usually let my car warm up for more than the amount of time it takes me to clean off the ice and snow. I'm very impatient when I have somewhere I want to go and the heater will start blowing warm air sooner if the engine is under load anyway


FTFM. I can proofreading
 
2022-01-27 10:30:24 AM  
It was 7 when I woke up. Is there supposed to be some shame attached to warming up your car now?
 
2022-01-27 10:35:02 AM  
There's a significant difference in what happens when I push the gas pedal before and after the engine and transmission gets up to temperature.

Next article is gonna say you don't need to bed in your brake pads either.
 
2022-01-27 10:39:58 AM  
Absolutely.

Also why all my cars have remote start too.
 
2022-01-27 10:58:20 AM  
Cause shaking while driving is such a good idea.

Or being distracted by being cold or your breath fogging up the windshield is a great idea.

But let's not think about that...
 
2022-01-27 11:29:07 AM  
Well, yeah. Being cold sucks. If you live in a place where it gets below zero in the winter, it's what you have to do. Plus, defrosting your windows is kind of vital.
 
2022-01-27 11:37:15 AM  
If your place is cold enough that the battery charge can meaningfully increase or decrease depending on the time of day you start the car you should be warming your car up regardless of your personal comfort. There's a reason you don't see everyone driving a new Tesla in really cold cities.
 
2022-01-27 11:48:03 AM  

basscomm: I don't usually let my car warm up for more than the amount of time it takes me to clean off the ice and snow. I'm very impatient when I have somewhere I want to go and the heater will start blowing warm air sooner if the engine is under load anyway


this. canadian.
 
2022-01-27 11:48:51 AM  
my car acts a little weird if i start it up and try to go in the cold. usually takes a block or so before i can drive normally
 
2022-01-27 12:05:30 PM  
*guy who parks in a garage and has heated car seats enters the thread*

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2022-01-27 12:06:51 PM  
I'm not jerking it in a cold car.
 
2022-01-27 12:07:40 PM  
I live in SoCal where it MIGHT get down to 36 Fahrenheit overnight on the coldest night of the year, so yeah, not warming it up all that much.
 
2022-01-27 12:08:28 PM  

some_beer_drinker: my car acts a little weird if i start it up and try to go in the cold. usually takes a block or so before i can drive normally


My transmission delays upshifts if I take off from cold.  Or the engine revs higher before it tells the trans to change gears.

Chicken and egg or whatnot.
 
2022-01-27 12:09:30 PM  
Depends on how cold, below zero yeah. It's been farking cold lately where I live, like republican denying global warming cold.
 
2022-01-27 12:11:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I do it because I have a 12 minute commute and I can afford to spend money on gas in order to be comfortable.


Short commutes may require more time running so you can recharge your battery so it'll start your car the next time.  When Drew's wife Heather was going to grad school, I think I was jumping her car at least once a week one winter.

It's also recommended that electric cars be given a chance to pre-heat while they're still plugged in.  This way, you don't drain the batteries for heating.  Even if you're not hearing the passenger space, you want to pre-heat the batteries when it's really cold out.
 
2022-01-27 12:11:16 PM  

fragMasterFlash: *guy who parks in a garage and has heated car seats enters the thread*

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Heated steering wheel FTW.

It's amazing what else you can put up with if your hands are toasty warm.
 
2022-01-27 12:12:11 PM  
When I want automotive operation advice, I always look towards a public relation officer from AAA.
 
2022-01-27 12:12:54 PM  
Grew up mostly in a warm state, so yea, I'm a wimp that hates the cold. So what. You extremely cold-tolerant people usually farking melt into uselessness if the temp gets above 70f.
 
2022-01-27 12:13:10 PM  
I have an attached garage. Coldest it's been in the garage is 50 degrees.

I open the garage door, start the car and gtfo.
 
2022-01-27 12:13:21 PM  
Only when there is thick frost. Then it's going for about 10 minutes while I get the couple of things together inside that I need.
 
2022-01-27 12:13:30 PM  
This is the first New England winter in over 20 years that I have had a garage to park in (yay homeownership!). I only ran the car in the mornings to help defrost the front windshield before scraping it.

But now I don't have to! *happy dance*
 
2022-01-27 12:13:38 PM  

basscomm: basscomm: I don't usually let my car warm up for more than the amount of time it takes me to clean off the ice and snow. I'm very impatient when I have somewhere I want to go and the heater will start blowing warm air sooner if the engine is under load anyway

FTFM. I can proofreading


Not to be a grammar nazi or anything, but the first one was right.
 
2022-01-27 12:13:40 PM  

Broktun: some_beer_drinker: my car acts a little weird if i start it up and try to go in the cold. usually takes a block or so before i can drive normally

My transmission delays upshifts if I take off from cold.  Or the engine revs higher before it tells the trans to change gears.

Chicken and egg or whatnot.


The car is holding gears longer, which will cause RPMs to rise and does have the effect of warming the engine faster.  My 09 G8 does this as well.  My wife's 2014 CX-5 prefers to just run higher rpm at idle for the first 30 second or so.  My son's 2019 Civic doesn't seem to do anything different in the cold, but my daughter's 2021 Civic does a 20 second warmup RPM rev.  Hers also has a turbo, so that may account for the difference.

In general, cold engines are super inefficient, so they do this pre-warm to effectively raise gas mileage.
 
2022-01-27 12:14:43 PM  
I need my car to warm up enough that my windshield doesn't immediately frost over when I use washer fluid.  Generally, that's a couple of minutes longer than it takes to remove snow and scrape the windows.
 
2022-01-27 12:15:03 PM  
It was so cold the other day my power steering wasn't working. I'm going to let my truck warm up enough that everything works and if that makes somebody feel sad I really don't care.
 
2022-01-27 12:15:21 PM  

Badmoodman: "Vehicles today are much more sophisticated than they were, say 15 or 20 years ago, when it was recommended to warm it up,"

In that case, my guess is that plenty of Farkers warm up their 15 or 20 year old vehicles.


Yep. My Ranger is a '99, and if I don't warm it up it shakes more than I do on a cold morning.
 
2022-01-27 12:15:54 PM  

fragMasterFlash: *guy who parks in a garage and has heated car seats enters the thread*

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It's very bourgeoisie, but since they gave me a different car after squirrels ate the wiring while it was still at the dealers, it was worth the $0 I paid for the upgrade.
 
2022-01-27 12:16:10 PM  
I warm up my car because Frankie Carbone warms up his car.
 
2022-01-27 12:16:16 PM  

DragonIV: My wife's 2014 CX-5 prefers to just run higher rpm at idle for the first 30 second or so.


Most post 2012 cars do this to get the catalytic converter up to temp faster and reduce overall emissions. The fact that it heats the coolant up a little quicker in winter is a bonus.
 
2022-01-27 12:16:37 PM  
I warm up my car in winter because my condo building's heated parking garage does it for me. Peons.
 
2022-01-27 12:16:44 PM  
Yes. Every year theres an article that says no, but is saying 'no' to letting it idle for 30 minutes or something stupid.

Wait till the engine slows to a normal idle and drive lightly until everything is warmed up (including the transmission). No reason not to wait a minute to avoid unnecessary strain.
 
2022-01-27 12:16:45 PM  
Depends on the car. My PHEV? Yes, I'm going to pre-heat that SOB before I go anywhere when it's cold. I can draw power direct from the mains to do so and not deplete my range by trying to get it up to a tolerable temperature, and in winter the range is reduced enough that every little bit helps.

My truck? If it's in the garage, no - it's going to be cold, but not frozen, and I can tolerate that until the engine builds up enough heat for comfort.

If I'm parked outside and there's ice/snow on it? Yeah, I'm going to warm it up while I clear the ice/snow. It's the safer option and more comfortable. Is it good for the environment? Well, no, but cars aren't good for the environment at all.  It is at least better for the environment than it is to wrap it around a utility pole because I couldn't see where I was going though, so yeah, I'll keep doing it when necessary.
 
2022-01-27 12:18:00 PM  
I just like to be able to see out the windows, you know, so I don't crash.
 
2022-01-27 12:18:02 PM  

BlackPete: Heated steering wheel FTW. It's amazing what else you can put up with if your hands are toasty warm.


Amen. I made excellent fun of that feature whenever I saw it advertised or in someone else's car. But now I have heated steering wheel, and now I understand. All has been revealed. It's like the little butter-melter/syrup-warmer kitchen utensil of the automotive world. It sounds stupid and unnecessary and ... to an extent it is. But it's awesome and I use it a lot.
 
2022-01-27 12:18:35 PM  
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2022-01-27 12:19:41 PM  

shastacola: It was 7 when I woke up. Is there supposed to be some shame attached to warming up your car now?


Indeed. 4 when I woke up this morning. Have three kids to take to school. The car gets warmed up for ~10 minutes every morning. I'm supposed to feel shame? Huh, weird.
 
2022-01-27 12:19:48 PM  

DragonIV: The car is holding gears longer, which will cause RPMs to rise and does have the effect of warming the engine faster.  My 09 G8 does this as well.  My wife's 2014 CX-5 prefers to just run higher rpm at idle for the first 30 second or so.  My son's 2019 Civic doesn't seem to do anything different in the cold, but my daughter's 2021 Civic does a 20 second warmup RPM rev.  Hers also has a turbo, so that may account for the difference.

In general, cold engines are super inefficient, so they do this pre-warm to effectively raise gas mileage.


They also do crazy things in some cars with the thermostat beyond just opening and closing at a certain temp.

/had electronic thermostat go in my bmw. Oh, no biggie, that is what, like 15 bucks and maybe some coolant i spill?
//Add 2 0's to it, and a day of taking half the car apart to replace
///they eventually did a recall for it and paid me back for the part
 
2022-01-27 12:20:07 PM  
I have a remote starter. I will never scrape windows again because I will never again buy a vehicle without remote start.
 
2022-01-27 12:20:25 PM  

Badmoodman: "Vehicles today are much more sophisticated than they were, say 15 or 20 years ago, when it was recommended to warm it up,"

In that case, my guess is that plenty of Farkers warm up their 15 or 20 year old vehicles.


Yeah, mine's 18. It gets a few minutes to warm up.
 
2022-01-27 12:20:26 PM  
"Vehicles today are much more sophisticated than they were, say 15 or 20 years ago, when it was recommended to warm it up,"

That advice was dated 20 years ago.

Electronic fuel injection and ignition have been pretty standard for more like 35 years, and it's not like anyone is still using oil technology from 35 years ago either.

I used to put an electric radiator heater in the back seat of my car, powered by an extension cord, for getting things comfortable on cold mornings.
 
2022-01-27 12:20:58 PM  
It's been a long damned time(40 years at least) since new vehicles actually needed to be warmed up.  It's been less long since the convention wisdom demanded it, but it's still been a long time.  Just don't jump on it right away and it's fine.
 
2022-01-27 12:21:20 PM  
1977. Ford Mustang II 4-cyl. Outside for weeks of 15-degree weather.

Get in, turn key, nothing. Try again, errunk. Engine turns crankshaft 1/32 of a rotation. Repeat often until finally a single cylinder fires. Engine stops. Try again every so often, hoping the single explosions thaw the engine somehow.

Continue until two cylinders fire and engine actually continues running, shaking and vibrating and threatening disassembly.  Enjoy victory as the third and fourth cylinders join the firing line --- barely --- even as the engine is still moaning about the molasses oil.

Twenty minutes later: engine is running normally with full heat and defrost. Car interior is now up to 16 degrees and two fist size spots on the windshield have melted.

Continue the scrapping and chipping.

Forty-five minutes in, I'm ready to go. One small problem: the university never plows student parking lots. Begin the back and forth rocking maneuverers to get out of the spot into the open. Achieving success there, initiate same technique, slowly building a path towards the exit. Once the path is long enough, gun it for a full power snow blast to the freedom of the streets.

Drive home for the holiday, secure in the knowledge the inside will heat up before you get there. Probably.

I'll take things I don't miss for $500 Alex.
 
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