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(HiConsumption)   Graphic design god Aaron Draplin runs through his everyday carry regimen. It's basically a 15-minute ad for the assload of merch he has to sell, but it's worth it   (hiconsumption.com) divider line
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2022-01-27 12:51:28 AM  
I have a nicer purse, a small Craftsman tool bag 9X13 inches.   4 spare mags, the shopping bag handle thing, some Motrin, some Zaditor, and sunglasses.   I just take it from inside to the car I'm driving that day (the Element or the Accord), I don't carry it around just to the car and then back inside.
 
2022-01-27 7:30:56 AM  
My everyday carry is as little as is possible.  I kind of wish the RFID chip in the car fob was removable so I could tuck it into my watch band.  Then I could get away with just the watch most days.
 
2022-01-27 7:31:49 AM  
If your everyday carry includes a flask, you might be an alcoholic.
 
2022-01-27 7:33:57 AM  
I work at a commercial print shop. I like a lot of what Draplin has done, so I figured I'd buy some of his Field Notes because i like to have little notebooks with me. The production was pretty poor. Of the 3 in the $15 or whatever pack, 2 were stitched wrong. Like the staples would stab you. One good thing that I think is pretty cool from a design point of view is the back of the books tell you all about it: specific inks, the paper, the press used, which printer manufactured it... gave one to my boss to try and steal the contract. "Hey, we see you're having some difficulty getting a satisfactory product out to your customers..."
 
2022-01-27 8:11:40 AM  
Legendary usually means that the name is one that is recognized outside of the tiny group


This is someone who does not meet that standard since 99.99% of us saw the name and went "who the fark is that and why do we give a fark what he carries?"
 
2022-01-27 8:19:01 AM  
If you make a list of your "everyday carry" items you're a farking idiot.
 
2022-01-27 8:21:26 AM  

neongoats: If you make a list of your "everyday carry" items you're a farking idiot.


If you publish that list, you're a self-important farking idiot.
 
2022-01-27 8:22:25 AM  

Vacation Bible School: I work at a commercial print shop. I like a lot of what Draplin has done, so I figured I'd buy some of his Field Notes because i like to have little notebooks with me. The production was pretty poor. Of the 3 in the $15 or whatever pack, 2 were stitched wrong. Like the staples would stab you. One good thing that I think is pretty cool from a design point of view is the back of the books tell you all about it: specific inks, the paper, the press used, which printer manufactured it... gave one to my boss to try and steal the contract. "Hey, we see you're having some difficulty getting a satisfactory product out to your customers..."


A smart man would take you up on that offer.
 
2022-01-27 8:32:34 AM  
Oooh, an everyday article! I thought those died in 2017 with this:
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2022-01-27 8:37:41 AM  

EvilEgg: If your everyday carry includes a flask, you might be an alcoholic.


And to add - if you daily carry a $100+ knife, you're attraction whoring.

If you carry a $100+ money clip, you're asking to get robbed by someone who laughs at your $100+ knife.
 
2022-01-27 8:40:46 AM  
I have a backpack, with sometimes a laptop, often times noise cancelling headphones, and a smorgasboard of different USB and HDMI cables.

/yes I know, the cable I need will be somewhere else.
 
2022-01-27 9:11:22 AM  
Uh, wallet, phone and keys? You don't really need much more than that unless you have extenuating circumstances.

If I'm working, it'll also be my backpack with laptop.
 
2022-01-27 9:15:13 AM  
EDC: Wallet, keys, phone.  Back when I went to the office, I also had a pocket knife (there was often someone who needed help opening something in that stupid clamshell plastic).

Do you really need anything else every day? Does it really come up that much? Maybe I'm spoiled because I have a car and so the less often needed stuff goes there. Flashlight, medkit, jacket, fake passport, rope, magazines, glue, voice modulator, cop uniform, the usual stuff.
 
2022-01-27 9:57:11 AM  
I wanto to know what was in Lenard lakes carry bag.
 
2022-01-27 10:11:15 AM  
Video: Area Man Goes Through Purse

Looks like this guy carries some art supplies & whatnot, which hey cool, but the whole everyday carry thing is nothing but Goop for men. Overbuilt tacticool militaryesque junk you'll never use, or look like a complete tool when dumping it all out on a table. Congrats on carrying 7 lbs of flashlights, pocketknives, rope for whatever reason, an $80 waterproof pen, etc.
 
2022-01-27 10:33:38 AM  
So...this the Vanity Fair/Vogue equivalent for dudes? You can have his purse, his pen, his flask, and maybe some of his greatness will rub off? No thanks. I'd have rather read an article about his actual work and perhaps some work advice.
 
2022-01-27 10:45:38 AM  

lifeslammer: Legendary usually means that the name is one that is recognized outside of the tiny group


This is someone who does not meet that standard since 99.99% of us saw the name and went "who the fark is that and why do we give a fark what he carries?"


Nah, it just means really well known. For example, go is the oldest and among the most widely played board games in history. I can't name a single prominent player of go, but it doesn't mean the game has no players who'd qualify as legendary.
 
2022-01-27 10:48:54 AM  
IDNRTFA but as a side note It's always hilarious to me when I see EDC lists and it's guns, knives, ammo, medkits in an altoid tin for a dude that works a desk job or IT in the middle of a large city.

Like dude, the zombie apocalypse probably isn't gonna go down the way you think, but good job making the ark before it rains I guess.
 
2022-01-27 10:51:53 AM  

wiredroach: lifeslammer: Legendary usually means that the name is one that is recognized outside of the tiny group


This is someone who does not meet that standard since 99.99% of us saw the name and went "who the fark is that and why do we give a fark what he carries?"

Nah, it just means really well known. For example, go is the oldest and among the most widely played board games in history. I can't name a single prominent player of go, but it doesn't mean the game has no players who'd qualify as legendary.


Sun tzu would actually be the name. If you look at the parallels between his art of war and how a game of Go plays out its creepy how alike they are
 
2022-01-27 10:59:01 AM  
I carry a flashlight in the winter, but I never thought to take a picture of it.
 
2022-01-27 11:08:28 AM  

EvilEgg: If your everyday carry includes a flask, you might be an alcoholic.



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2022-01-27 11:53:42 AM  

lifeslammer: wiredroach: lifeslammer: Legendary usually means that the name is one that is recognized outside of the tiny group


This is someone who does not meet that standard since 99.99% of us saw the name and went "who the fark is that and why do we give a fark what he carries?"

Nah, it just means really well known. For example, go is the oldest and among the most widely played board games in history. I can't name a single prominent player of go, but it doesn't mean the game has no players who'd qualify as legendary.

Sun tzu would actually be the name. If you look at the parallels between his art of war and how a game of Go plays out its creepy how alike they are


They both involve life and death - it's not surprising.
 
2022-01-27 12:02:48 PM  

lifeslammer: Legendary usually means that the name is one that is recognized outside of the tiny group


This is someone who does not meet that standard since 99.99% of us saw the name and went "who the fark is that and why do we give a fark what he carries?"


There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."

Except for other graphic artists.

Good for him getting enough attention from the plebes to get the attendant business though. I'm graphic design adjacent and had never heard of him, but he seems like a cool dude.

Also there's no way in hell that's his everyday carry stuff. He's just cashing in on being "famous". I followed up TFA by watching a video of a talk he gave. He works from home, so much like myself his commute is a dozen steps or so. No one who works from home carries anything around other than snacks, a notebook, and writing utensil. Drawing utensils in his case since he's an artist.

Now if I go out I got my phone, wallet and keys -- with a small Swiss Army knife on the key ring for light daily utility. I carry a cheap handkerchief for emergency clean ups. As Nick Offerman pointed out a hankie is just a sensible thing to always have handy. Cheap because your should be prepared to give it away and never get it back. As he said it's a small thing, but you're a goddamned hero if you can offer one to someone who might need it.
 
2022-01-27 12:07:58 PM  
The only think I absolutely cannot leave the house with (besides my keys, phone and wallet) is my watch. It's a crappy old Casio A158w, and you'll have to saw it off my rotten corpse if you want it.

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2022-01-27 12:23:39 PM  

Boudyro: There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."


This isn't remotely true. Think of Milton Glaser's Dylan poster. The entire point is for the image to be noticed and make a commentary on its subject. Or Storm Thorgerson's covers for Pink Floyd albums. Or Saul Bass' logos for Ma Bell, United Way, AT&T and many more. Or his credit sequences for Psycho, Vertigo, North By Northwest, and others. Or Chip Kidd's book cover for Jurassic Park, which was so iconic it became not only the logo for the film, but the focus of in-movie and real-world merchandise. I'm pretty sure all of those were noticed. And all of those designers are legends in their field.
 
2022-01-27 12:32:18 PM  

wiredroach: Boudyro: There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."

This isn't remotely true. Think of Milton Glaser's Dylan poster. The entire point is for the image to be noticed and make a commentary on its subject. Or Storm Thorgerson's covers for Pink Floyd albums. Or Saul Bass' logos for Ma Bell, United Way, AT&T and many more. Or his credit sequences for Psycho, Vertigo, North By Northwest, and others. Or Chip Kidd's book cover for Jurassic Park, which was so iconic it became not only the logo for the film, but the focus of in-movie and real-world merchandise. I'm pretty sure all of those were noticed. And all of those designers are legends in their field.


One group is assuming "legend" to the common beholder. The other group is assuming "legend" to the people in the field.

This is the only reason for any contention over the use of "legend".

As a common beholder, I just see "man purse stuff" in tones of brown and orange.
 
2022-01-27 1:05:46 PM  

The Silver Mullet: The only think I absolutely cannot leave the house with (besides my keys, phone and wallet) is my watch. It's a crappy old Casio A158w, and you'll have to saw it off my rotten corpse if you want it.

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2022-01-27 1:22:15 PM  

wiredroach: Boudyro: There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."

This isn't remotely true. Think of Milton Glaser's Dylan poster. The entire point is for the image to be noticed and make a commentary on its subject. Or Storm Thorgerson's covers for Pink Floyd albums. Or Saul Bass' logos for Ma Bell, United Way, AT&T and many more. Or his credit sequences for Psycho, Vertigo, North By Northwest, and others. Or Chip Kidd's book cover for Jurassic Park, which was so iconic it became not only the logo for the film, but the focus of in-movie and real-world merchandise. I'm pretty sure all of those were noticed. And all of those designers are legends in their field.


I know what every one of those images are, and just learned from your post who was responsible for each of them.

So I repeat. The only people who have regard for a specific graphic designer to the point of referring to them as legendary are other graphic designers and their opinions don't matter.

That doesn't rise to the standard of legendary. Shakespeare is legendary because even people who don't give a fark about writing or reading know his name. Frida Kahlo is a legendary artist, Hitler is a legendary bastard.

Again . . . if graphic design is done correctly no one really notices the design itself. They get what the design is meant to communicate. The graphic artist is merely a conduit that uses their art to communicate the message.
 
2022-01-27 1:23:06 PM  
First:

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Second: why do I give a fark about what this asshole "everyday carries"?
 
2022-01-27 1:25:41 PM  
Also, can I kick subby in the groin for referring to some guy as a "graphic designer god"?
 
2022-01-27 1:27:46 PM  
Guess what, subby? I everyday carry your mom around because she gives great head.
 
2022-01-27 1:31:50 PM  

Boudyro: wiredroach: Boudyro: There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."

This isn't remotely true. Think of Milton Glaser's Dylan poster. The entire point is for the image to be noticed and make a commentary on its subject. Or Storm Thorgerson's covers for Pink Floyd albums. Or Saul Bass' logos for Ma Bell, United Way, AT&T and many more. Or his credit sequences for Psycho, Vertigo, North By Northwest, and others. Or Chip Kidd's book cover for Jurassic Park, which was so iconic it became not only the logo for the film, but the focus of in-movie and real-world merchandise. I'm pretty sure all of those were noticed. And all of those designers are legends in their field.

I know what every one of those images are, and just learned from your post who was responsible for each of them.

So I repeat. The only people who have regard for a specific graphic designer to the point of referring to them as legendary are other graphic designers and their opinions don't matter.

That doesn't rise to the standard of legendary. Shakespeare is legendary because even people who don't give a fark about writing or reading know his name. Frida Kahlo is a legendary artist, Hitler is a legendary bastard.

Again . . . if graphic design is done correctly no one really notices the design itself. They get what the design is meant to communicate. The graphic artist is merely a conduit that uses their art to communicate the message.


It's rather funny you mention Shakespeare, who essentially repurposed words and created his own language.
 
2022-01-27 1:48:32 PM  

Boudyro: I know what every one of those images are, and just learned from your post who was responsible for each of them.

So I repeat. The only people who have regard for a specific graphic designer to the point of referring to them as legendary are other graphic designers and their opinions don't matter.


It just means there's a whole realm of human experience you know nothing about. See my reference to the game of go above. By your reasoning, everyone on planet earth needs to have heard of someone for them to be legendary. We all have limited knowledge of vast swathes of the human experience; our ignorance of them doesn't determine the notoriety of people within a given field. Graphic designers' opinions on the legendary status of other designers matter more, not less, for this reason.

They also know not to use underlining, boldface, and italic all at once for emphasis, as it's redundant and visually distracting.

And you're still wrong when saying that designers shouldn't be noticed. You might as well say that directors or authors or musicians or architects shouldn't be noticed. Even thought the result of the work should come first, the identity, experience, work process, and notoriety of the creator is often part of that work, and the creators will and should be noticed. Aesthetic style doesn't exist in a vacuum; one's knowledge of a given Frank Lloyd Wright building informs knowledge of others, in part because the viewer knows who designed both and has an idea about his intentions.
 
2022-01-27 1:53:15 PM  

Wendigogo: Boudyro: wiredroach: Boudyro: There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."

This isn't remotely true. Think of Milton Glaser's Dylan poster. The entire point is for the image to be noticed and make a commentary on its subject. Or Storm Thorgerson's covers for Pink Floyd albums. Or Saul Bass' logos for Ma Bell, United Way, AT&T and many more. Or his credit sequences for Psycho, Vertigo, North By Northwest, and others. Or Chip Kidd's book cover for Jurassic Park, which was so iconic it became not only the logo for the film, but the focus of in-movie and real-world merchandise. I'm pretty sure all of those were noticed. And all of those designers are legends in their field.

I know what every one of those images are, and just learned from your post who was responsible for each of them.

So I repeat. The only people who have regard for a specific graphic designer to the point of referring to them as legendary are other graphic designers and their opinions don't matter.

That doesn't rise to the standard of legendary. Shakespeare is legendary because even people who don't give a fark about writing or reading know his name. Frida Kahlo is a legendary artist, Hitler is a legendary bastard.

Again . . . if graphic design is done correctly no one really notices the design itself. They get what the design is meant to communicate. The graphic artist is merely a conduit that uses their art to communicate the message.

It's rather funny you mention Shakespeare, who essentially repurposed words and created his own language.


Shakespeare's EDC was a quill, a spare ruff, pantaloon adhesive, some mercury, and a groat-purse.
 
2022-01-27 2:00:03 PM  

The Silver Mullet: Wendigogo: Boudyro: wiredroach: Boudyro: There's no such thing as a "legendary" graphic designer because if your work is done right nobody really notices your design. The average person may know they like the logo, or have feelings associated with the brand, but they aren't looking at a logo and saying "That's X's work."

This isn't remotely true. Think of Milton Glaser's Dylan poster. The entire point is for the image to be noticed and make a commentary on its subject. Or Storm Thorgerson's covers for Pink Floyd albums. Or Saul Bass' logos for Ma Bell, United Way, AT&T and many more. Or his credit sequences for Psycho, Vertigo, North By Northwest, and others. Or Chip Kidd's book cover for Jurassic Park, which was so iconic it became not only the logo for the film, but the focus of in-movie and real-world merchandise. I'm pretty sure all of those were noticed. And all of those designers are legends in their field.

I know what every one of those images are, and just learned from your post who was responsible for each of them.

So I repeat. The only people who have regard for a specific graphic designer to the point of referring to them as legendary are other graphic designers and their opinions don't matter.

That doesn't rise to the standard of legendary. Shakespeare is legendary because even people who don't give a fark about writing or reading know his name. Frida Kahlo is a legendary artist, Hitler is a legendary bastard.

Again . . . if graphic design is done correctly no one really notices the design itself. They get what the design is meant to communicate. The graphic artist is merely a conduit that uses their art to communicate the message.

It's rather funny you mention Shakespeare, who essentially repurposed words and created his own language.

Shakespeare's EDC was a quill, a spare ruff, pantaloon adhesive, some mercury, and a groat-purse.


And a SIG Sauer P365 in case someone quarreled, sir.
 
2022-01-27 2:33:56 PM  

XtremeLeeWyte: IDNRTFA but as a side note It's always hilarious to me when I see EDC lists and it's guns, knives, ammo, medkits in an altoid tin for a dude that works a desk job or IT in the middle of a large city.

Like dude, the zombie apocalypse probably isn't gonna go down the way you think, but good job making the ark before it rains I guess.


I think it's a bit unfair to include the knife in the sneer-at list.
Maybe it's that I grew up doing Scouting or something, but my folding knife is pretty consistently handy to have around, as a tool.  If I'm getting mugged, I guarantee they're not gonna let me get my little knife out to threaten them back, so it's not like I'm carrying it for self-defense purposes.  It's for cutting open packaging, cutting twine/rope, twist ties, that kind of thing.

Guns and medkits and shiat, though, yeah.
 
2022-01-27 2:37:07 PM  

Endus: XtremeLeeWyte: IDNRTFA but as a side note It's always hilarious to me when I see EDC lists and it's guns, knives, ammo, medkits in an altoid tin for a dude that works a desk job or IT in the middle of a large city.

Like dude, the zombie apocalypse probably isn't gonna go down the way you think, but good job making the ark before it rains I guess.

I think it's a bit unfair to include the knife in the sneer-at list.
Maybe it's that I grew up doing Scouting or something, but my folding knife is pretty consistently handy to have around, as a tool.  If I'm getting mugged, I guarantee they're not gonna let me get my little knife out to threaten them back, so it's not like I'm carrying it for self-defense purposes.  It's for cutting open packaging, cutting twine/rope, twist ties, that kind of thing.

Guns and medkits and shiat, though, yeah.


I carry a boxcutter at work and have on occasionally carried a knife, but even Boy Scouts would go "wtf are you preparing for with that EDC?"

But yes, I should probably have not mentioned the knife in that list.

Like I have a bag prepared to go camping, but I've seen some EDC's / Bug Out Bags and I think "why??"
 
2022-01-27 2:40:47 PM  

freakdiablo: EvilEgg: If your everyday carry includes a flask, you might be an alcoholic.

And to add - if you daily carry a $100+ knife, you're attraction whoring.

If you carry a $100+ money clip, you're asking to get robbed by someone who laughs at your $100+ knife.


Fun fact: everyone I have known who has felt the need to carry around a pocketknife all the time when their jobs and/or daily hobbies did not require one has been some sort of douchebag.
 
2022-01-27 2:53:43 PM  

wiredroach: Boudyro: I know what every one of those images are, and just learned from your post who was responsible for each of them.

So I repeat. The only people who have regard for a specific graphic designer to the point of referring to them as legendary are other graphic designers and their opinions don't matter.

It just means there's a whole realm of human experience you know nothing about. See my reference to the game of go above. By your reasoning, everyone on planet earth needs to have heard of someone for them to be legendary. We all have limited knowledge of vast swathes of the human experience; our ignorance of them doesn't determine the notoriety of people within a given field. Graphic designers' opinions on the legendary status of other designers matter more, not less, for this reason.

They also know not to use underlining, boldface, and italic all at once for emphasis, as it's redundant and visually distracting.

And you're still wrong when saying that designers shouldn't be noticed. You might as well say that directors or authors or musicians or architects shouldn't be noticed. Even thought the result of the work should come first, the identity, experience, work process, and notoriety of the creator is often part of that work, and the creators will and should be noticed. Aesthetic style doesn't exist in a vacuum; one's knowledge of a given Frank Lloyd Wright building informs knowledge of others, in part because the viewer knows who designed both and has an idea about his intentions.


For the record I've been in the field since 1995. So please go ahead and tell me how it is. My particular path/flavor of design has been along the lines of print publication page and ad design.

I deliberately overloaded the emphasis for the slow, because I already said it once and you glossed right over it. Since I can't poke you with a stick while saying it, I did the next best thing. Now that you've actually acknowledged what the actual point of contention is we can properly discuss it.

The artist matters tremendously if you want more from that artist. If I like Melody Gardot I'm getting all her songs in my playlist. If I'm an 80s kid I'll give anything Spielberg's name is attached to a shot. I'll read anything with Terry Pratchett's name on it.

However if I see this:

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I'm not going up to the manager of the place and asking who designed it, and then looking the graphic artist up so that I can see everything they've ever done. I'm going to have a sensible chuckle while I take a leak.

Good graphic design makes the artist invisible to normal people. As it should. The only designers I've ever given a crap about were the ones I was learning from or the ones I was training. I love great design, but I don't give a fark about the designer's process unless I happen to be both looking at a design and talking to the designer at the same time. I care if one of my trainees would be having a good or bad day and it showed in their work. I care when I'm struggling and a peer's opinion can help me.

But when I see absolutely sublime design like this:

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I don't need to know what thoughts and feelings went into it, because it's all right there in an elegant package. Everything you need to know about how they did that image and why is obvious.

If I ever needed to hire a graphic artist then I might care. But people hire specific "famous" graphic artists for the cachet of doing it, not necessarily for the quality of the work. Pretty much anyone with the right graphic design tools and a modicum of creativity can whip up something amazing, and in real practice non-cachet-hungry clients will go to someone they have a relationship with.
 
2022-01-27 2:55:59 PM  
Jesus Christ, this is a new low for Fark... it's literally an ad for junk that no one needs.

What's next? "Soft drink god James Quincey runs through the beverages that refresh him on a daily basis"???
 
2022-01-27 3:01:13 PM  

WhippingBoi: Jesus Christ, this is a new low for Fark... it's literally an ad for junk that no one needs.

What's next? "Soft drink god James Quincey runs through the beverages that refresh him on a daily basis"???


What's almost as bad is the silly quibbling over language.
 
2022-01-27 3:02:46 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: freakdiablo: EvilEgg: If your everyday carry includes a flask, you might be an alcoholic.

And to add - if you daily carry a $100+ knife, you're attraction whoring.

If you carry a $100+ money clip, you're asking to get robbed by someone who laughs at your $100+ knife.

Fun fact: everyone I have known who has felt the need to carry around a pocketknife all the time when their jobs and/or daily hobbies did not require one has been some sort of douchebag.


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My aforementioned keyring knife. It had a pair of tweezers too but they've been long lost. Other than the screwdrivers it all gets used. Most often the blade and the toothpick.
 
2022-01-27 4:18:43 PM  

Boudyro: For the record I've been in the field since 1995. So please go ahead and tell me how it is. My particular path/flavor of design has been along the lines of print publication page and ad design.


I've been doing those same things since 1992, along with photography, videography, copywriting, web design and other related disciplines. But congrats. And if you're really a graphic designer, but this is the first time you've heard any of those names, you're either shockingly incurious, incredibly forgetful, or less than competent to train others in the art beyond clicking a mouse. Ignorance of your chosen field on that scale just proves my point. You have no frame of reference for who's legendary and who isn't, because you have no frame of reference at all.

And while it's certainly desirable and effective for design and other art forms to do their work without any knowledge of their creators, especially if you're not a member of that particular community, any great art will make me want to know more about it and where it came from. No one gets better at what they do in a vacuum, and great art always inspires beyond the end result of the work. I, at least, want to know more about who did that logo, or wrote that song, or made that photo. And I'll find more great work from those creators by doing so, and learn a bit from them why their work is so good, whether it helps my work or not. I'll even start to form opinions about who I think are the very best, and find that other fans are doing the same. A few names will inevitably float to the top as the best of the best, worthy of respect, emulation, and praise.

You know...legends.
 
2022-01-27 4:39:53 PM  
a 15-minute ad for the assload of merch he has to sell, but it's worth it

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2022-01-27 5:15:23 PM  
As a freelance designer, I think I... just want more work.
 
2022-01-27 5:57:39 PM  
gun, wallet, money, phone, keys, pocket knife.
I spent a lot of years working and being in detroit.
I now work in a place that is only almost as bad as detroit
 
2022-01-27 7:44:27 PM  

wiredroach: Boudyro: For the record I've been in the field since 1995. So please go ahead and tell me how it is. My particular path/flavor of design has been along the lines of print publication page and ad design.

I've been doing those same things since 1992, along with photography, videography, copywriting, web design and other related disciplines. But congrats. And if you're really a graphic designer, but this is the first time you've heard any of those names, you're either shockingly incurious, incredibly forgetful, or less than competent to train others in the art beyond clicking a mouse. Ignorance of your chosen field on that scale just proves my point. You have no frame of reference for who's legendary and who isn't, because you have no frame of reference at all.

And while it's certainly desirable and effective for design and other art forms to do their work without any knowledge of their creators, especially if you're not a member of that particular community, any great art will make me want to know more about it and where it came from. No one gets better at what they do in a vacuum, and great art always inspires beyond the end result of the work. I, at least, want to know more about who did that logo, or wrote that song, or made that photo. And I'll find more great work from those creators by doing so, and learn a bit from them why their work is so good, whether it helps my work or not. I'll even start to form opinions about who I think are the very best, and find that other fans are doing the same. A few names will inevitably float to the top as the best of the best, worthy of respect, emulation, and praise.

You know...legends.


Wonderfully pretentious.

Graphic design is not that complicated.

1) Does it communicate the message?
2) Is it appealing to look at?
3) Is the client happy with it?
4) Can you use the tools you have available to accomplish steps 1-3?

The only truly hard rule in the field is that if it looks wrong then it is wrong. Unless wrongness was what you were going for.

If worshipping at the feet of those you consider your betters gets your output where you want it knock yourself out.

It's not something I need.

Best I can tell you is maybe the difference is our backgrounds. You sound like you came from the art school, whereas my main client for years was a meat grinder. I didn't have time for, "What would (insert name of "famous" graphic artist here) do?" I had 24 hours to crank out 40 ads and then design the 32 page tabloid they went into. I cut my design teeth on 60+ hour weeks for years pumping out lots of varied publications. When it finally got to be too much and we spread the work out to a more sane level, they hired two more full time designers and an intern for the same output I was doing solo.
 
2022-01-27 8:05:07 PM  

Boudyro: Wonderfully pretentious.

Graphic design is not that complicated.

1) Does it communicate the message?
2) Is it appealing to look at?
3) Is the client happy with it?
4) Can you use the tools you have available to accomplish steps 1-3?

The only truly hard rule in the field is that if it looks wrong then it is wrong. Unless wrongness was what you were going for.


As I said...you have no frame of reference. Sounds like your goal was to pump out dreck, and you succeeded.
 
2022-01-27 9:24:17 PM  

EvilEgg: If your everyday carry includes a flask, you might be an alcoholic.


Worse: you're a basic-ass douche who thinks "manly" is an acceptable substitute for personality. Also, my graphic designers (two very highly accomplished women) all hate Draplin for being simultaneously untalented and a perfect example of the kind of toxic masculinity that makes working in the field absolute torture for anyone who isn't a straight, white man with a beard.
 
2022-01-27 9:32:11 PM  

wiredroach: Boudyro: For the record I've been in the field since 1995. So please go ahead and tell me how it is. My particular path/flavor of design has been along the lines of print publication page and ad design.

I've been doing those same things since 1992, along with photography, videography, copywriting, web design and other related disciplines.


A.K.A. - tell me you've earned most of your income as a barista for 30 years without telling me you've worked as a barista for 30 years. That's a list of almost completely unrelated fields that even a good generalist wouldn't ever put on the same resume.

Source: I've run a successful agency since 2011.
 
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