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(Some Guy)   Hey, remember the ending of St. Elsewhere, where the "show" existed only in the mind of an autistic boy? Turns out that it wasn't only St. Elsewhere, but also Cheers, X-Files, Homicide, Simpsons ... and ~90% of every show EVAR   (looper.com) divider line
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2022-01-26 5:40:47 PM  
But ironically not Herman's Head.
 
2022-01-26 6:24:42 PM  
I believe that the entire Trump presidency was because Tommy Westphall ate a bad piece of pork.
 
2022-01-26 9:17:18 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: But ironically not Herman's Head.


Loved that show! Where I first 'met' Yeardley Smith. (before that she was just a voice on a new cartoon!)
 
2022-01-26 9:31:09 PM  
Congrats on the article writer discovering the Tommy Westphall Universe. Someone stumbles upon that TV Tropes page every six months and today it was his turn.
 
2022-01-26 9:41:59 PM  
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2022-01-26 9:42:14 PM  

skybird659: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: But ironically not Herman's Head.

Loved that show! Where I first 'met' Yeardley Smith. (before that she was just a voice on a new cartoon!)


What, not "The Legend of Billie Jean"?
 
2022-01-26 9:46:38 PM  
This has been common internet-shared knowledge going back fifteen years and often referenced. Must be nice to get out from under that rock, OP.
 
2022-01-26 9:46:50 PM  

Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]


Probably the greatest end to any sitcom evar.
 
2022-01-26 9:51:46 PM  
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/if the small man is so wise, then why is he so small?
 
2022-01-26 9:52:48 PM  

skybird659: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: But ironically not Herman's Head.

Loved that show! Where I first 'met' Yeardley Smith. (before that she was just a voice on a new cartoon!)


For me, it was Maximum Overdrive.

Maximum Overdrive: Is He Dead?
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2022-01-26 9:54:08 PM  

GoodHomer: Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]

Probably the greatest end to any sitcom evar.


Even then, the "it was just a dream" cliché was old and tired.

But they did something that was so awesome, it didn't matter.
 
2022-01-26 9:55:57 PM  
But also, Detective Munch from Homicide: Life on the Street crossed over with the X-Files, which crossed over with COPS, which is in real life, which is where the people that wrote St. Elsewhere live! It's all just a giant lotus eater machine.
 
2022-01-26 10:02:19 PM  

Poopy MacPoop: But also, Detective Munch from Homicide: Life on the Street crossed over with the X-Files, which crossed over with COPS, which is in real life, which is where the people that wrote St. Elsewhere live! It's all just a giant lotus eater machine.


Oh fark, we ARE in the Matrix!!
 
2022-01-26 10:12:55 PM  
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2022-01-26 10:17:57 PM  

The_Sponge: GoodHomer: Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]

Probably the greatest end to any sitcom evar.

Even then, the "it was just a dream" cliché was old and tired.

But they did something that was so awesome, it didn't matter.


And it led to the talking Daryl to killing it as E.B. Farnum

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2022-01-26 10:23:07 PM  

Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]


"Have you ever considered wearing turtleneck sweaters?"
 
2022-01-26 10:23:50 PM  
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2022-01-26 10:28:29 PM  
Old news.  I think the guy who made a huge map of all of the show connections stopped years ago, but it already showed hundreds of connections.
 
2022-01-26 10:31:58 PM  
It's almost like television shows aren't real.
 
2022-01-26 10:39:14 PM  

Burra: [Fark user image 559x397]
/if the small man is so wise, then why is he so small?


I just re-binged News Radio, and I was struck by how prescient that show was. Particularly Our Fiftieth Episode, S3E21, in which Jimmy James, Billionaire Presidential candidate, coaches Joe Rogan on how to be a divisive, disingenuous, misinformation pedaling radio broadcaster.

It is also the classic episode in which Phil Hartman gets committed to a mental institution, where he meets fellow inmate Jon Lovitz, who reappears in a later episode as a suicidal man on a ledge outside Dave's window, the same window Jimmy James imagines himself jumping through when the Dow fell to a certain number, and later actually attempts to jump through in a later episode.

Jon Lovitz shows up again, as an unstable neurotic with a known history of adopting aliases and fake identities, and yet, no-one notices that it is the same guy from the mental ward. This makes me wonder if NewsRadio really takes place in the mental ward at St Eligius.

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"Cigarette, prepare to pleasure me!"
 
2022-01-26 10:52:52 PM  
Has the word tropes become more common in the past few years? I swear it seems like I've seen it more in the past year than all the previous years of my life combined. Have I just overlooked it all this time?
 
2022-01-26 10:54:14 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: The_Sponge: GoodHomer: Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]

Probably the greatest end to any sitcom evar.

Even then, the "it was just a dream" cliché was old and tired.

But they did something that was so awesome, it didn't matter.

And it led to the talking Daryl to killing it as E.B. Farnum

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His name was Larry. His brothers were Darryl and Darryl.
 
2022-01-26 11:07:35 PM  
The article mentioned Yoyodyne, which I assumed originated with Buckaroo Banzai, but it looks like the earliest reference to Yoyodyne was a Thomas Pynchon novel. So maybe Pynchon is the ultimate creator of the Westphall universe.
 
2022-01-26 11:07:45 PM  
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Michael, I need to be back to the hospital by 4
 
2022-01-26 11:08:03 PM  
[Ctrl]+[F] "Dwayne" ← not found

Plagiarist.

At least you waited a decade after McDuffie's passing, Mike Floorwalker and L∞per; before cashing in on his work.
 
2022-01-26 11:10:28 PM  
Berenstain Bears
 
2022-01-26 11:13:16 PM  

Mega Steve: [Fark user image image 400x265]
Michael, I need to be back to the hospital by 4


I have it on good authority KITT went on to become a high school principal.
 
2022-01-26 11:14:48 PM  

Plaster Lion: This has been common internet-shared knowledge going back fifteen years and often referenced. Must be nice to get out from under that rock, OP.


Sorry.  "Internet-shared knowledge" sounds sarcastic.  Like "a friend of a buddy of mine is an expert on..."
 
2022-01-26 11:15:10 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: The_Sponge: GoodHomer: Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]

Probably the greatest end to any sitcom evar.

Even then, the "it was just a dream" cliché was old and tired.

But they did something that was so awesome, it didn't matter.

And it led to the talking Daryl to killing it as E.B. Farnum

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I thought William Sanderson was excellent in Last Man Standing,
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an otherwise unremarkable remake of Yojimbo. He played the part played by Eijirō Tōno in Yojimbo.
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which was perfect preparation for E.B. Farnum's role in Deadwood.
 
2022-01-26 11:15:31 PM  

Kris_Romm: Old news.  I think the guy who made a huge map of all of the show connections stopped years ago, but it already showed hundreds of connections.



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But wait. If that was Comic Book Guy who posted this on Fark, and Comic Book Guy is in the Tommy Westphal Universe ...
 
2022-01-26 11:18:59 PM  

Trainspotr: Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: The_Sponge: GoodHomer: Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]

Probably the greatest end to any sitcom evar.

Even then, the "it was just a dream" cliché was old and tired.

But they did something that was so awesome, it didn't matter.

And it led to the talking Daryl to killing it as E.B. Farnum

[Fark user image image 425x255]
[Fark user image image 425x340]

His name was Larry. His brothers were Darryl and Darryl.


Ahh shiat, yep.
 
2022-01-26 11:30:16 PM  

Billy Liar: Plaster Lion: This has been common internet-shared knowledge going back fifteen twenty years and often referenced. Must be nice to get out from under that rock, OP.

Sorry.  "Internet-shared knowledge" sounds sarcastic.  Like "a friend of a buddy of mine is an expert on..."

The late, great Dwayne McDuffie Boobiesed it as "Six Degrees of St. Elsewhere" on SlushFactory on January 29, 2002. If Subby had waited just three more days, this thread would've celebrated the two-decade anniversary of it.
 
2022-01-26 11:34:21 PM  
Darn filter. Got distracted by the "new" editor making it hard for me to format text like I used to.
 
2022-01-26 11:42:22 PM  
I clicked on the article and got maybe a sentence in when I says to myself, 'wait, I don't give a shiat about any of this.'
 
2022-01-26 11:48:44 PM  

knbwhite: Has the word tropes become more common in the past few years? I swear it seems like I've seen it more in the past year than all the previous years of my life combined. Have I just overlooked it all this time?


Yes, Since 1980 it's gotten a lot more prevalent in usage.Trope ngram
 
2022-01-26 11:51:17 PM  
The article mentions a fictitious company, Yoyodyne that was another link that stretches from St Elsewhere through Cheers and John Larroquette.
That means it includes Buckaroo Bonzai. Makes sense
 
2022-01-26 11:54:01 PM  
"It was all a dream? I dunno man, I think you piss a lot of people off that way"

"Well at least we didn't end it with a farking fade to black mid-sentence"
 
2022-01-26 11:55:29 PM  

Billy Liar: skybird659: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: But ironically not Herman's Head.

Loved that show! Where I first 'met' Yeardley Smith. (before that she was just a voice on a new cartoon!)

What, not "The Legend of Billie Jean"?


Nope. Busy building a house on a mountain with sister and BIL back then.
 
2022-01-27 12:07:51 AM  
There was a Season 5 episode of Buffy that had the same kind of ending....
 
2022-01-27 12:30:10 AM  

olddeegee: The article mentions a fictitious company, Yoyodyne that was another link that stretches from St Elsewhere through Cheers and John Larroquette.
That means it includes Buckaroo Bonzai. Makes sense


And continued on to the 23rd century.  Yoyodyne has offices on the promenade at Deep Space 9.
 
2022-01-27 12:36:01 AM  

Billy Liar: skybird659: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: But ironically not Herman's Head.

Loved that show! Where I first 'met' Yeardley Smith. (before that she was just a voice on a new cartoon!)

What, not "The Legend of Billie Jean"?


Geez, you geeks, you know Hank Azaria was on that show, don't you?
 
2022-01-27 12:39:50 AM  
Television was all in Stooky Bill's empty head.
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2022-01-27 1:51:54 AM  

Poopy MacPoop: But also, Detective Munch from Homicide: Life on the Street crossed over with the X-Files, which crossed over with COPS, which is in real life, which is where the people that wrote St. Elsewhere live! It's all just a giant lotus eater machine.


That X files/Cops episode is AWESOME.
 
2022-01-27 1:53:58 AM  

cepson: The article mentioned Yoyodyne, which I assumed originated with Buckaroo Banzai, but it looks like the earliest reference to Yoyodyne was a Thomas Pynchon novel. So maybe Pynchon is the ultimate creator of the Westphall universe.


Now satisfied
 
2022-01-27 2:52:35 AM  

Summoner101: [townsquare.media image 850x566]


The kicker to that is, right after the Newhart finale, they then did a special, one-off episode of The Bob Newhart Show for their 20th 19th anniversary, and picked up right where Newhart had left off.
 
2022-01-27 2:53:22 AM  

Plaster Lion: This has been common internet-shared knowledge going back fifteen years and often referenced. Must be nice to get out from under that rock, OP.


Twenty years, actually.

Get off my Geocities lawn.
 
2022-01-27 4:19:03 AM  
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I guess that's how we're supposed to react but I haven't.
Never watched St. E and see no reason to change that.
 
2022-01-27 5:02:03 AM  
And this folks is how one jumps the TV analysis shark.  A much simpler explanation, but one for which one is unlikely to get paid is that the boy watched the TV shows alluded to in the series and incorporated them into his story.  Did the author imagine the boy dreaming the entire show in a day?
 
2022-01-27 5:57:26 AM  

Trik: [Fark user image image 220x146]
I guess that's how we're supposed to react but I haven't.
Never watched St. E and see no reason to change that.


Worth a look if you like well-written and well-acted TV.
 
2022-01-27 6:42:37 AM  

SimonElectric: And this folks is how one jumps the TV analysis shark.  A much simpler explanation, but one for which one is unlikely to get paid is that the boy watched the TV shows alluded to in the series and incorporated them into his story.  Did the author imagine the boy dreaming the entire show in a day?



Came here to say this.
 
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