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2022-01-26 1:25:34 PM  
Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer
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2022-01-26 2:36:02 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


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2022-01-26 2:40:19 PM  
So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!
 
2022-01-26 2:41:50 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


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2022-01-26 2:54:32 PM  

TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!


He's pretty helpless without the genius mastermind at the wheel in the US anymore.
 
2022-01-26 2:57:57 PM  

TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!


Yeah, I remain vehemently opposed to any deployment of US troops, but I am very happy to see Europe stepping up and banding together to dick over Putin.  This looks like it's going to backfire in a big way.  Best case is he backs down peacefully (well, best case is somebody shoots him, but that's unlikely) and we deal with an elevated level of cyber attacks for a little while.
 
2022-01-26 2:59:00 PM  

born_yesterday: TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!

He's pretty helpless without the genius mastermind at the wheel in the US anymore.


He got South Ossetia under Bush and Crimea under Obama.  I'm guessing you mean Obama because of the "genius" bit?
 
2022-01-26 3:00:28 PM  
If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.
 
2022-01-26 3:01:27 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


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2022-01-26 3:02:48 PM  

flucto: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]

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2022-01-26 3:04:03 PM  

Klyukva: If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.


Speaking of bluffing - I see Russia has no field hospital units deployed to support the 125.000 or so troops threatening Ukraine.  Is Vlad just going to tell them to suck it up if they are hit?

/Lots of other logistics not looking like a real invasion is all that imminent
//Vlad is trying to score some wins off of people panicking over an exercise
///Hope he chokes on this failure
 
2022-01-26 3:05:16 PM  

jim32rr: flucto: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]

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I like pie


Me too dude/doodah, me too.
 
2022-01-26 3:07:06 PM  
So what's the problem with some illegal undocumented Ruskies breaching the sovereign borders of Ukraine? I thought the goal was open borders open hearts.
 
2022-01-26 3:08:38 PM  

TommyDeuce: I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!


It seems "You're provoking me further by defending yourself against my aggression, back down!" is not a convincing argument.
 
2022-01-26 3:10:22 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


Thank you for posting that.  I was labeled a Russian troll after refusing to engage in the jingoistic let's-go-to-war circlejerk going on when this situation was first developing.

Hopefully now people see what a real dumbfark Russian troll looks like.
 
2022-01-26 3:11:09 PM  
Maybe instead of troops, we should be deploying tactical nukes along the border.

Russia sends its shiat across the border, it gets vaporized.
 
2022-01-26 3:12:12 PM  

FLMountainMan: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]

Thank you for posting that.  I was labeled a Russian troll after refusing to engage in the jingoistic let's-go-to-war circlejerk going on when this situation was first developing.

Hopefully now people see what a real dumbfark Russian troll looks like.


You made a booger fly out onto my screen.  Who's gonna clean this off??
 
2022-01-26 3:12:39 PM  

wage0048: Maybe instead of troops, we should be deploying tactical nukes along the border.

Russia sends its shiat across the border, it gets vaporized.


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2022-01-26 3:12:56 PM  
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2022-01-26 3:13:22 PM  

wage0048: Maybe instead of troops, we should be deploying tactical nukes along the border.

Russia sends its shiat across the border, it gets vaporized.


Yeah, no.  Not really ready to go full "two guys in a phone booth armed with hand-grenades".

/What do I look like, a 1960's era war planner?
 
2022-01-26 3:13:50 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


Ok, Tovarish.
 
2022-01-26 3:15:27 PM  

FLMountainMan: born_yesterday: TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!

He's pretty helpless without the genius mastermind at the wheel in the US anymore.

He got South Ossetia under Bush and Crimea under Obama.  I'm guessing you mean Obama because of the "genius" bit?


Just because you are florida man you aren't legally obligated to be stupid.
 
2022-01-26 3:19:07 PM  

TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!


Or maybe he WANTS Ukraine and Finland to join NATO. "We're surrounded by enemies!" has always been a great way to maintain control of the populace.

Assuming Putin is a moron has never been a good strategy. NATO is a defensive alliance. He has zero fear that we'll attack Russia.
 
2022-01-26 3:22:15 PM  

wage0048: Maybe instead of troops, we should be deploying tactical nukes along the border.

Russia sends its shiat across the border, it gets vaporized.


Gonna party like it's 1983.


"The report said if the American missiles are deployed 'the Soviets will inevitably increase their capability to employ nuclear weapons in Europe. The likelihood of a drastic Soviet response to the new U.S. missiles is accentuated by the provocative nature of these weapons.'
'Naturally, the Soviets are very concerned and will respond with their own weapons.'
The Center claimed there is 'growing recognition that the United States may have made a mistake in how it has pursued the INF (Intermediate Nuclear Force) issue and that NATO has placed itself in a damned-if-we-do, damned-if-we-don't situation."
 
2022-01-26 3:22:52 PM  

GRCooper: TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!

Or maybe he WANTS Ukraine and Finland to join NATO. "We're surrounded by enemies!" has always been a great way to maintain control of the populace.

Assuming Putin is a moron has never been a good strategy. NATO is a defensive alliance. He has zero fear that we'll attack Russia.


There's a reason why the country produces so many grand masters in chess.

I'm still thinking that this is a ruse on Putin's part to scare up the price of oil and NG, while solidifying a lot of his propaganda and giving a hard time to Biden.

Things would be a lot easier for Vlad with Dotard in office.
 
2022-01-26 3:23:48 PM  

jokerscrowbar: wage0048: Maybe instead of troops, we should be deploying tactical nukes along the border.

Russia sends its shiat across the border, it gets vaporized.

Gonna party like it's 1983.


"The report said if the American missiles are deployed 'the Soviets will inevitably increase their capability to employ nuclear weapons in Europe. The likelihood of a drastic Soviet response to the new U.S. missiles is accentuated by the provocative nature of these weapons.'
'Naturally, the Soviets are very concerned and will respond with their own weapons.'
The Center claimed there is 'growing recognition that the United States may have made a mistake in how it has pursued the INF (Intermediate Nuclear Force) issue and that NATO has placed itself in a damned-if-we-do, damned-if-we-don't situation."


No need to go big, go small and go home
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2022-01-26 3:24:59 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


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2022-01-26 3:26:03 PM  

The Brains: GRCooper: TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!

Or maybe he WANTS Ukraine and Finland to join NATO. "We're surrounded by enemies!" has always been a great way to maintain control of the populace.

Assuming Putin is a moron has never been a good strategy. NATO is a defensive alliance. He has zero fear that we'll attack Russia.

There's a reason why the country produces so many grand masters in chess.

I'm still thinking that this is a ruse on Putin's part to scare up the price of oil and NG, while solidifying a lot of his propaganda and giving a hard time to Biden.

Things would be a lot easier for Vlad with Dotard in office.


Yes, because the game costs nothing to learn , nearly nothing to play and eats up all the downtime you have being unemployed.
Dotard lost the election. I bet that impacted his hotel in moscow plan.
 
DVD
2022-01-26 3:28:35 PM  

TommyDeuce: Klyukva: If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.

Speaking of bluffing - I see Russia has no field hospital units deployed to support the 125.000 or so troops threatening Ukraine.  Is Vlad just going to tell them to suck it up if they are hit?

/Lots of other logistics not looking like a real invasion is all that imminent
//Vlad is trying to score some wins off of people panicking over an exercise
///Hope he chokes on this failure


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Citations on the lack of medical support?  I want to hope, but I don't like to hope for no real reason.

This whole deployment has already got to be bleeding Russian government coffers out, so I can see not deploying medical support if it isn't going to be needed like that, in order to avoid the expense.
 
2022-01-26 3:30:07 PM  
jim32rr: No need to go big, go small and go home
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The existence of 'man-portable' nuclear weapons is scary all on its own.   At least with a giant ICBM you can imagine seeing it coming and having a chance to shoot it down.
 
2022-01-26 3:35:32 PM  
we have always been at war with Eurasia
 
2022-01-26 3:42:13 PM  

RaiderFanMikeP: we have always been at war with Eurasia


anybody want a peanut farmer for President again?  i do.
 
2022-01-26 3:47:56 PM  

RaiderFanMikeP: we have always been at war with Eurasia


If they stopped invading their neighbors maybe that would end. Not that Putin will ever stop.
So maybe cut out the appeasement stuff.
 
2022-01-26 3:52:14 PM  
Russian deployments are spreading out surprisingly wide along Ukraine's border, even going into Belarus. Seems to suggest that they have something more ambitious in mind than just a tank parade in Donetsk or even a spearpoint to seize a land bridge to Crimea. I doubt they are that concerned about needing to contain a counteroffensive under those scenarios; if they are there and war is declared, they are probably going over the border.

They probably will be doing some staged tank parades anyway to grab some sweet, reusable "greeted as liberators" B-roll to counter-program the inevitable general humanitarian disaster that will come with a full-scale Russian invasion. They will also need to counterprogram footage of Russian tanks in flames if the Ukrainian military doesn't immediately roll over.
 
2022-01-26 3:54:47 PM  

born_yesterday: TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!

He's pretty helpless without the genius mastermind at the wheel in the US anymore.


Putin says he was promised , unofficially of course , that NATO wouldn't encroach on "his" boarders. Since that time 19 new nations have signed on to NATO. It's great propaganda for idiots and like all great propaganda it can't be proved or disproved. He's going to fark around and find out. He will be protecting his flank from an uprising, a Russian spring perhaps.
 
2022-01-26 3:56:25 PM  
This is all because Europe is finding other sources of natural gas and petroleum and Putin is losing control.
 
2022-01-26 4:08:51 PM  

DVD: TommyDeuce: Klyukva: If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.

Speaking of bluffing - I see Russia has no field hospital units deployed to support the 125.000 or so troops threatening Ukraine.  Is Vlad just going to tell them to suck it up if they are hit?

/Lots of other logistics not looking like a real invasion is all that imminent
//Vlad is trying to score some wins off of people panicking over an exercise
///Hope he chokes on this failure

_________________________________

Citations on the lack of medical support?  I want to hope, but I don't like to hope for no real reason.

This whole deployment has already got to be bleeding Russian government coffers out, so I can see not deploying medical support if it isn't going to be needed like that, in order to avoid the expense.


Interview on NPR this morning with the former Defense Minister of Ukraine, who is not that likely to soft-peddle it if he thinks an invasion is coming for real.  He's expecting some cyber attacks and economic farkery.
 
2022-01-26 4:17:49 PM  
Putin is going to get in a bit of a mess and everyone will be freaking the fark out and then tfg will announce on his stationary that he spoke with Putin and convinced him to pull out and then tfg will launch his re-election campaign on a "i saved the world" platform.

/the aristocrats!
 
2022-01-26 4:26:13 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.
 
2022-01-26 4:28:46 PM  

whitroth: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.


Oh, right, and I can tell that under 5% of any other farkers on this thread actually listened to the lecture. But then, he's only a college professor and has studied this for decades, while this is Fark, an' we know better... here, have some Ivermectin.
 
2022-01-26 4:30:19 PM  
If Ukraine really wanted to fark with Russia, they'd sell us a couple of square miles along their coast, for an American port, making us a Black Sea state and getting us around most of the Montreux provisions.

Yes, I've already written a letter to Biden proposing the idea.
 
2022-01-26 4:42:12 PM  

TommyDeuce: Klyukva: If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.

Speaking of bluffing - I see Russia has no field hospital units deployed to support the 125.000 or so troops threatening Ukraine.  Is Vlad just going to tell them to suck it up if they are hit?

/Lots of other logistics not looking like a real invasion is all that imminent
//Vlad is trying to score some wins off of people panicking over an exercise
///Hope he chokes on this failure


Russians run on meat grinder status. Their troops can suck it up or die and be replaced. Less mouths to feed is a win/win for Russia.
 
2022-01-26 4:44:50 PM  

whitroth: whitroth: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.

Oh, right, and I can tell that under 5% of any other farkers on this thread actually listened to the lecture. But then, he's only a college professor and has studied this for decades, while this is Fark, an' we know better... here, have some Ivermectin.


It was just "Russia deserves to own Ukraine, and the people living there don't really get a say in it, because Russia is feeling insecure", only dressed up for a nice dinner.
 
2022-01-26 4:46:45 PM  

ace in your face: TommyDeuce: Klyukva: If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.

Speaking of bluffing - I see Russia has no field hospital units deployed to support the 125.000 or so troops threatening Ukraine.  Is Vlad just going to tell them to suck it up if they are hit?

/Lots of other logistics not looking like a real invasion is all that imminent
//Vlad is trying to score some wins off of people panicking over an exercise
///Hope he chokes on this failure

Russians run on meat grinder status. Their troops can suck it up or die and be replaced. Less mouths to feed is a win/win for Russia.


Sure, he continued his assessment that to make a real effort to conquer and occupy Ukraine, Russia would need between 250.000 to 300,000 troops. So I'm sure letting the wounded die off will allow them to make-do with the 125,000 or so they have.
 
2022-01-26 4:47:44 PM  

GonnaCallYouOut: FLMountainMan: born_yesterday: TommyDeuce: So Putin's publicly stated goal is to move NATO forces further from his (and his allies) borders?

His troop build-up and bullying is getting NATO nations on his borders to ask for more troops there?

Another country (Finland) with a border with Russia is now Mulling NATO membership due to all of this?

Here, I thought the Backfire was just the code name for a Russian bomber. Turns out it fits their President's forgien policy too!

He's pretty helpless without the genius mastermind at the wheel in the US anymore.

He got South Ossetia under Bush and Crimea under Obama.  I'm guessing you mean Obama because of the "genius" bit?

Just because you are florida man you aren't legally obligated to be stupid.


Great fact-based retort.  Your intellect is dizzying.
 
2022-01-26 5:16:40 PM  

TommyDeuce: Klyukva: If you are actually willing to fight Russia then deploying troops afterwards to liberate Ukraine would do plenty of good.

However if you aren't willing to fight Russia and are bluffing to try to avert an invasion then of course your posturing only works if it happens before.

Speaking of bluffing - I see Russia has no field hospital units deployed to support the 125.000 or so troops threatening Ukraine.  Is Vlad just going to tell them to suck it up if they are hit?

/Lots of other logistics not looking like a real invasion is all that imminent
//Vlad is trying to score some wins off of people panicking over an exercise
///Hope he chokes on this failure


KSA never needed no field hospital or medics down in Yemen.

Many Russian conscripts may die, but that's a sacrifice Putin is willing to make.

If shiat goes south for Russia & Ukraine turns into a bottomless pit where men & resources disappear, will Putin survive politically?
 
2022-01-26 6:18:31 PM  

TommyDeuce: whitroth: whitroth: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.

Oh, right, and I can tell that under 5% of any other farkers on this thread actually listened to the lecture. But then, he's only a college professor and has studied this for decades, while this is Fark, an' we know better... here, have some Ivermectin.

It was just "Russia deserves to own Ukraine, and the people living there don't really get a say in it, because Russia is feeling insecure", only dressed up for a nice dinner.


I see, so, just as I said, you actually didn't watch it. STFU.
 
2022-01-26 6:37:16 PM  

the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JrMiSQAGOS4]


Tell me you would have supported the Nazis in WW2, while telling me you would have supported the Nazis in WW2.
 
2022-01-26 6:40:49 PM  

whitroth: whitroth: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.

Oh, right, and I can tell that under 5% of any other farkers on this thread actually listened to the lecture. But then, he's only a college professor and has studied this for decades, while this is Fark, an' we know better... here, have some Ivermectin.


He also has a history of palling around with white supremacists and neo-nazis. So there is that.

whitroth: whitroth: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.

Oh, right, and I can tell that under 5% of any other farkers on this thread actually listened to the lecture. But then, he's only a college professor and has studied this for decades, while this is Fark, an' we know better... here, have some Ivermectin.


He does have a history of palling around with white supremacists and Neo-nazis, and even wrote a blurb for GIlad Atzmon's book.  So he actually is quite popular with the ivermectin crowd.
 
2022-01-26 8:47:20 PM  

whitroth: TommyDeuce: whitroth: whitroth: the unabomber was right: Stop peddling the US State Departments' propaganda. This situation is the USA's fault.

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THANK YOU. I haven't listened to the q&a, but that covers *everything* that I've been thinking, and more.

Just posted it to faceplant.

Oh, right, and I can tell that under 5% of any other farkers on this thread actually listened to the lecture. But then, he's only a college professor and has studied this for decades, while this is Fark, an' we know better... here, have some Ivermectin.

It was just "Russia deserves to own Ukraine, and the people living there don't really get a say in it, because Russia is feeling insecure", only dressed up for a nice dinner.

I see, so, just as I said, you actually didn't watch it. STFU.


No, I simply don't agree with his ever so esteemed opinion.

That's a right we have here in America.  You should check it out sometime.
 
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