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Nicholas D. Wolfwood [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 11:15:46 AM  
Ya know, for the usual range of bullshiat that comes out of Rudy's piehole, I think this may be the least unbelievable.
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 11:40:11 AM  
Sounds like an actual good excuse.
 
Noticeably F.A.T. [TotalFark]
2022-01-26 11:49:07 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Ya know, for the usual range of bullshiat that comes out of Rudy's piehole, I think this may be the least unbelievable.


Yeah, but I also have a hard time believing that there isn't a procedure in place to handle these situations. The only reason I'm not 100% positive is I don't know how much actual overlap there is between his case and trump's, where the actual documents requested (taxes, jan6 communications) were/are in someone else's hands already.
 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 11:54:12 AM  
Rudy promises that once he gets the files back from the FBI,  Dominion is the very first people after the January 6th commission that he will share the files with.  He promises to share the files with them prior to handing it over to the NY Attorney's office criminally investigating the Trump Organization.
 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 11:56:54 AM  
Keep in mind that withholding documents is how Alex Jones had a summary judgement against him in the lawsuit the Sandy Hook parents filed.
 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 12:00:28 PM  
Any lawyers can comment on this.  Wouldn't it be that once Dominion proves Giuliani was lying, it becomes Giuliani's requirement to prove in the affirmative that he had reason to believe those lies were true?

Aren't those files more important to Rudy than Dominion - assuming his E-mails/documents had anything at all that convinced him the lies were true.
 
Officer Barrelroll
2022-01-26 12:40:57 PM  
So the guy that runs a cyber security company has no protocol for making secured backups of data or any data for that matter.

Sounds about right for him.
 
Farkin_Crazy
2022-01-26 12:41:09 PM  
Well then Roody, we'll just have the FBI turn them over to prosecutors then.

Call the next case, balif.
 
Gyrfalcon
2022-01-26 12:41:14 PM  
Well, then, you're going to have trouble claiming attorney-client and work product privilege, aren't you, Rudy? If you don't know which documents they want, you won't be able to index the ones you want to exclude?

Such a conundrum...you might have to cooperate JUST A LITTLE to get out of t his one.
 
Harry Freakstorm [BareFark]
2022-01-26 12:43:09 PM  
I sent them out to be cleaned and pressed but accidentally check marked "Deep Acid Wash"
 
RasIanI
2022-01-26 12:43:42 PM  
I, personally, believe that Rudy Colludy didn't back anything up.

He seems pretty sloppy in his advanced age.
 
Phil McKraken [OhFark]
2022-01-26 12:44:28 PM  
I guess he doesn't have "insurance" to threaten President Trump with.
 
iheartscotch
2022-01-26 12:45:12 PM  

mrshowrules: Any lawyers can comment on this.  Wouldn't it be that once Dominion proves Giuliani was lying, it becomes Giuliani's requirement to prove in the affirmative that he had reason to believe those lies were true?

Aren't those files more important to Rudy than Dominion - assuming his E-mails/documents had anything at all that convinced him the lies were true.


I sometimes play a lawyer on the Internet.

I find it a little suspect that a business, any business at all, operated for any length of time without any files. How would that business, for example, pay taxes?
 
OhioUGrad
2022-01-26 12:46:05 PM  
It's probably good because he cannot destroy or alter any documentation.

I am sure the FBI will be happy to hand over copies (although might need intervention from a judge to happen)
 
Farkin_Crazy
2022-01-26 12:46:14 PM  

Phil McKraken: I guess he doesn't have "insurance" to threaten President Trump with.


Well, he might not, but I'll bet with a little digging the FBI is in possession of the devices that do.
 
XtremeLeeWyte
2022-01-26 12:46:17 PM  
He played a "Reverse" card: NO U turn in the documents, they're in your possession!
 
sdd2000
2022-01-26 12:46:51 PM  
Federal judge in Dominion case issues an order and subpoena to FBI to make an image of all of the seized hard drives and other items and hand them over to Dominion's attorneys (or to a special master). Problem solved, next case.
 
Mcavity
2022-01-26 12:47:00 PM  
"I cant give you the stuff because I did so much crime that the FBI took everything" while plausible is not exactly a good look.
 
Purple_Urkle [TotalFark]
2022-01-26 12:47:15 PM  
The Kremlin probably has copies too.
 
muck1969
2022-01-26 12:47:34 PM  
I'm old enough to remember when Giuliani was a cybersecurity advisor.  He's the worst farking cybersecurity advisor if he didn't have backups of all his digital shiat.
 
Harry Freakstorm [BareFark]
2022-01-26 12:47:38 PM  
Rudi:  I put them in the copier to make copies but just tiny pieces of paper came out.

/As Time Goes By
 
Farkin_Crazy
2022-01-26 12:47:40 PM  

XtremeLeeWyte: He played a "Reverse" card: NO U turn in the documents, they're in your possession!


Not a lot of thought put in to that plan by Roody, though.

The FBI will say "okey dokey"
 
XtremeLeeWyte
2022-01-26 12:47:55 PM  

Mcavity: "I cant give you the stuff because I did so much crime that the FBI took everything" while plausible is not exactly a good look.


I hid the documents in a place no one would ever think to look! The computers you've already seized!!
 
mrwhippy
2022-01-26 12:49:40 PM  
LOL from my auditing days
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Brian The Fist
2022-01-26 12:49:45 PM  
"no access...including...files stored in the Cloud"

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Artist
2022-01-26 12:51:31 PM  
These gals have more credibility doing anything, than ol' Four Seasons Landscaping Roody.


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9-5...yep.
 
UncleDirtNap
2022-01-26 12:51:38 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: So the guy that runs a cyber security company has no protocol for making secured backups of data or any data for that matter.

Sounds about right for him.


Well it's an odd protocol.

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Harry Freakstorm [BareFark]
2022-01-26 12:51:54 PM  

Phil McKraken: I guess he doesn't have "insurance" to threaten President Trump with.


TFG doesn't fear any court.  But if Rudi had some stuff on the kids...

They won't let you have your crypt in prison, Rudi.  You'll get one issued to you and it won't be the same.  No soil from the homeland.  Faux silk liner.  Tiny cracks letting daylight in.

TFG:  "Children!  They're going after children!"
 
hardinparamedic [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 12:52:10 PM  
Don't worry about Rudy. He'll appeal this right up to the International House of Pancakes
 
Gyrfalcon
2022-01-26 12:52:50 PM  

Artist: These gals have more credibility doing anything, than ol' Four Seasons Landscaping Roody.


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9-5...yep.


At least back then there was an excuse for not having Cloud backups.
 
Hoblit [TotalFark]
2022-01-26 12:53:28 PM  

Brian The Fist: "no access...including...files stored in the Cloud"

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Yeah, that made me raise an eyebrow too.

There are devices that 'pretend' to have cloud access by using similar buzzwords, but are only putting the device online so that it can be reached.

That would not be truly 'cloud' though, just a buzzword for something that looks like it.

Perhaps that's what he MEANT?

If not, then there are 'cloud services' awaiting a subpoena or warrant right now.
 
shoegaze99
2022-01-26 12:53:35 PM  
I'm largely one of the Ain't Nothin' Gonna Happen folks Farkers hate so much, not because I want it that way -- 1,000% the OPPOSITE -- but because history has shown us pretty clearly that in most cases when power abuses power, Ain't Nothin' Gonna Happen. Trump will never see true justice.

HOWEVER, it's sure as hell looking like Rudy will, and it's a delight. He's going to die a disgraced wreck of a man, a total laughingstock with financial problems, zero credibility, and no one willing to touch him with a 10-foot pole. All signs point to this being his fate. He will end his days as a joke.

He's earned it, too.

It will be a rare case of Somethin' Happening and I couldn't be happier.
 
jst3p
2022-01-26 12:53:36 PM  
Ask the crackhead pillow dude, he says he has all the evidence and is going to show it to us "soon".
 
GooberK
2022-01-26 12:54:08 PM  
Counterpoint: if you just make up shiat on the fly, your computers don't matter

Genius
 
mcreadyblue
2022-01-26 12:54:09 PM  

iheartscotch: mrshowrules: Any lawyers can comment on this.  Wouldn't it be that once Dominion proves Giuliani was lying, it becomes Giuliani's requirement to prove in the affirmative that he had reason to believe those lies were true?

Aren't those files more important to Rudy than Dominion - assuming his E-mails/documents had anything at all that convinced him the lies were true.

I sometimes play a lawyer on the Internet.

I find it a little suspect that a business, any business at all, operated for any length of time without any files. How would that business, for example, pay taxes?


Rudy prolly used the same accountant as Madoff.
 
hardinparamedic [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 12:54:23 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Artist: These gals have more credibility doing anything, than ol' Four Seasons Landscaping Roody.


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9-5...yep.

At least back then there was an excuse for not having Cloud backups.


Yeah, it was all on IBM 729 Reels
 
Zeb Hesselgresser [TotalFark]
2022-01-26 12:54:25 PM  
Read between the lines, assholes

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tjassen
2022-01-26 12:55:13 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Artist: These gals have more credibility doing anything, than ol' Four Seasons Landscaping Roody.


[Fark user image 599x316]

9-5...yep.

At least back then there was an excuse for not having Cloud backups.


Sure, but for the hearing he'll show up at Waffle House.
 
tjassen
2022-01-26 12:57:27 PM  

hardinparamedic: Don't worry about Rudy. He'll appeal this right up to the International House of Pancakes


Sure, but for the hearing he'll show up at Waffle House.

/oops... Sorry Hans, wrong answer.
 
haknudsen
2022-01-26 12:57:39 PM  

iheartscotch: mrshowrules: Any lawyers can comment on this.  Wouldn't it be that once Dominion proves Giuliani was lying, it becomes Giuliani's requirement to prove in the affirmative that he had reason to believe those lies were true?

Aren't those files more important to Rudy than Dominion - assuming his E-mails/documents had anything at all that convinced him the lies were true.

I sometimes play a lawyer on the Internet.

I find it a little suspect that a business, any business at all, operated for any length of time without any files. How would that business, for example, pay taxes?


Or pay its employees, or bill a client, or pay the bills...
 
mistahtom
2022-01-26 1:00:39 PM  
If the FBI went bad under Trump, the probably seized Giuliano's stuff to prevent the courts or the 1/6 commission from getting any of it.

Barr directed them to take Rudy's stuff to cover things up.
 
AtomPeepers
2022-01-26 1:00:50 PM  
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In an undisclosed location near Ocean Avenue, Palm Beach FL, a desperate former lawyer discovers a very special paper shredder and gets more than he bargained for. Rudy Giuliani has entered the Twilight Zone of his career and nothing is going to work out like he expected.
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 1:01:02 PM  
fta : Giuliani claims that he has no access to any electronic documents, files, or communications, including back-up files or files stored in the Cloud, from before April 2021 because those files have all been seized by the FB


If I were the judge...

Unless he can prove the FBI shut off his access when they took their copies I would find him in contempt of court for this lie.
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-01-26 1:01:27 PM  

edmo: Sounds like an actual good excuse.


You think the fbi CONFISCATED his cloud?
 
palelizard
2022-01-26 1:06:36 PM  
The lack of a back-up is intentional. You don't take notes on a criminal conspiracy and then make copies. Rudy's sloppy and lazy in his dottage, but this is on purpose.
 
24fps
2022-01-26 1:07:17 PM  
The FBI can provide copies of the HD images. Pretty simple to ingest and review docs once you have copies of the images.
 
Halfabee64
2022-01-26 1:08:02 PM  

mrshowrules: Any lawyers can comment on this.  Wouldn't it be that once Dominion proves Giuliani was lying, it becomes Giuliani's requirement to prove in the affirmative that he had reason to believe those lies were true?

Aren't those files more important to Rudy than Dominion - assuming his E-mails/documents had anything at all that convinced him the lies were true.


The onus is on Dominion to prove that Guiliani knew his defamatory statements were false and that he uttered them with malice towards them (assuming a company is a "public figure"), which is difficult to prove.  If his communications prove that he knew it was a false narrative, was likely to harm Dominion monetarily, and he continued to do so, it's a slam dunk for Dominion.
 
Subtonic
2022-01-26 1:08:35 PM  
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lilbjorn
2022-01-26 1:09:39 PM  
Wait!  An attorney doesn't back up his files?  I'm not buying that for a second.
 
mongbiohazard
2022-01-26 1:10:33 PM  
IANAL, but I suspect that the FBI having the files wouldn't be an impediment to getting them, as Dominion could subpoena the FBI for copies.

But our legal system is byzantine and complex, so I'd like to hear from a lawyer whether that's how it would actually work or not IRL.
 
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