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2022-01-26 11:26:19 AM  
Good.
 
2022-01-26 12:04:19 PM  
Always one of my favorite observations

But #1 is always a toss up
"He'd noticed that sex bore some resemblance to cookery: It fascinated people, they sometimes bought books full of complicated recipes and interesting pictures, and sometimes when they were really hungry they created vast banquets in their imagination-but at the end of the day they'd settle quite happily for egg and chips, if it was well done and maybe had a slice of tomato."

That, and of course the Horseradish issue from Making Money
 
2022-01-26 1:51:01 PM  
We need Granny Weatherwax.
 
2022-01-26 2:02:16 PM  
"Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness"
 
2022-01-26 2:19:21 PM  
That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?
 
2022-01-26 2:26:55 PM  

Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?


Don't read them in order.
Use this:
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Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.
 
2022-01-26 2:26:58 PM  

Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?


The best place to start is with the first three in the Guards series (Guards Guards) or the Witches series (Wyrd Sisters) depending on what sounds good then move on in a rough publishing order.

For a stand alone story Small Gods is excellent and chock full of the signature Pratchett philosophy.

The first couple of novels are good but are Pratchett finding his feet, he only really kicks on on the later novels. I would leave the last two or three be, the decline was noticeable and very depressing.
 
2022-01-26 2:30:04 PM  

Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?


Choose a set of characters you're interested in. Do you want the Night Watch? Start with Guards! Guards! Want to follow the anthropomorphic personification of Death? Mort. Witches? Wyrd Sisters (some will say Equal Rites here).

If you want a more recent mini-saga, the Moist von Lipwig books are fantastic. Going Postal is a great starting book that gives you an intro into Lord Vetinari, tyrant of Ankh-Morpork

Do not start with Color of Magic, it takes a few books for him to really find his rhythm. If you get into the series you can go back to it later.

If you want a video presentation there was an adaptation of Hogfather that is kinda close to the book and enjoyable
 
2022-01-26 2:33:50 PM  

Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?


I take back my, "Start with Colour of Magic". Klivian is correct; it isn't his best work.

I really liked the Watch series and Tiffany Aching line.
 
2022-01-26 2:36:59 PM  

Klivian: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Choose a set of characters you're interested in. Do you want the Night Watch? Start with Guards! Guards! Want to follow the anthropomorphic personification of Death? Mort. Witches? Wyrd Sisters (some will say Equal Rites here).

If you want a more recent mini-saga, the Moist von Lipwig books are fantastic. Going Postal is a great starting book that gives you an intro into Lord Vetinari, tyrant of Ankh-Morpork

Do not start with Color of Magic, it takes a few books for him to really find his rhythm. If you get into the series you can go back to it later.

If you want a video presentation there was an adaptation of Hogfather that is kinda close to the book and enjoyable


Hogfather is great, problem is some of the jokes are not explained

Wyrd sisters and Soul Music are great and have great voice actors
The color of Magic is good, but as good as David Jason and Sean Astin are, they don't quite fit
Going Postal is a great adaptation

The Watch...
Well, I enjoyed it, but it wasn't discworld
 
2022-01-26 2:38:57 PM  

ajgeek: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Don't read them in order.
Use this:
[Fark user image 425x456]
Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.


This is a good guide to the various story arcs. Personally I ask this: How familiar are you with early pulp fantasy, the kind of stuff that the people who invented D&D grew up reading? If the answer is 'not at all', then use the reading guide.

If you do like the old stuff, then start at the beginning and read in publication order. Discworld starts as a parody of fantasy tropes. All the jokes are more tongue-in-cheek than clever, and it makes fun a little more than it pokes fun. The first few books are by no means bad, but they're not necessarily representative of the vast majority of the later books. Right around book 6-7 (Wyrd Sisters, Guards! Guards!) a sort of alchemy takes place. It's visible somewhat in the earlier books here and there, but it really pops out and stands out from Guards on.

That is the evolution of the series from parody to satire; holding a large mirror up to civilization so we can laugh at how silly we all look. Until we realize it's not a funhouse mirror at all and we really are or could be that way.

I prefer the publication order because it allows the careful reader to see the changes in the most important character of all, which are not at all obvious on a casual read.

(that character is the reader.)
 
2022-01-26 2:47:08 PM  

ajgeek: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Don't read them in order.
Use this:
[Fark user image 425x456]
Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.


Yup,

I start my friends on Wyrd Sisters, Guards Guards! or Mort.

/Night Watch remains my favorite.
 
2022-01-26 2:48:39 PM  

skybird659: We need Granny Weatherwax.


Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, Vimes, von Lipwig, Susan Sto Helit, Hex, hells, even Lord Vetinari.

We got work enough for the whole crew.

/I would *kill* to have Mr. Pump as the House Sergeant-at-Arms.  And Carrot and Angua heading up the Capitol Police.
 
2022-01-26 2:53:36 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: skybird659: We need Granny Weatherwax.

Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, Vimes, von Lipwig, Susan Sto Helit, Hex, hells, even Lord Vetinari.

We got work enough for the whole crew.

/I would *kill* to have Mr. Pump as the House Sergeant-at-Arms.  And Carrot and Angua heading up the Capitol Police.


I left out Lu-Tze and Lobsang Ludd.  Gotta be *some* good use we can put them to...
 
2022-01-26 2:53:50 PM  

TommyDeuce: ajgeek: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Don't read them in order.
Use this:
[Fark user image 425x456]
Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.

Yup,

I start my friends on Wyrd Sisters, Guards Guards! or Mort.

/Night Watch remains my favorite.


I always do Guards Guards! and Mort.  I'm really partial to the Night Watch and Death storylines.  Jingo and Soul Music are what completely hooked me.
 
2022-01-26 2:55:16 PM  

briz33: TommyDeuce: ajgeek: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Don't read them in order.
Use this:
[Fark user image 425x456]
Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.

Yup,

I start my friends on Wyrd Sisters, Guards Guards! or Mort.

/Night Watch remains my favorite.

I always do Guards Guards! and Mort.  I'm really partial to the Night Watch and Death storylines.  Jingo and Soul Music are what completely hooked me.


First book I picked up was 'Thud!', from a library book sale.  I hooked Jubal with 'Night Watch'.
 
2022-01-26 3:00:26 PM  

briz33: TommyDeuce: ajgeek: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Don't read them in order.
Use this:
[Fark user image 425x456]
Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.

Yup,

I start my friends on Wyrd Sisters, Guards Guards! or Mort.

/Night Watch remains my favorite.

I always do Guards Guards! and Mort.  I'm really partial to the Night Watch and Death storylines.  Jingo and Soul Music are what completely hooked me.


I think Reaper Man may have been the one to most solidly set the hook for me.  He hit me in the feels, not just the funny bone with the scene involving the house fire.
 
2022-01-26 3:05:42 PM  
I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.
 
2022-01-26 3:10:20 PM  
Terry Pratchett wrote more wisdom than any religious text out there.
 
2022-01-26 3:11:06 PM  

HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.


There nothing wrong with it, but it's a LOT of story to consume, and most of us plebs can't handle that much arc combined with our daily lives. The arc reading allows people to stick with a character for a while.

Pratchett lived Discworld day and night; and I'm sure even he had trouble from time to time.
 
2022-01-26 3:29:29 PM  
It's about time. My feet are killing me.
 
2022-01-26 3:30:05 PM  

Boojum2k: Terry Pratchett wrote more wisdom than any religious text out there.


Shaemlessly stolen from someone's FB post, and retyped.


I started out reading a fantasy novel. A simple police procedural in a city far away, that straddles an old slow river.

But no, it was about ethics. It was about knowing the difference between what's allowed, what's legal, and what's right. And that fairly often those three don't line up.

Or it was about gender politics. About the first person in a society willing to step up and say "You've called me by this name, and this pronoun, all my life. But that isn't me. This is me. No, we don't even have that pronoun yet, but this is still me."

Or it was about racism. That constant social whine of "well, everybody knows what they're like." The blame game that's based on the whispered mutterings that never have a source, and always boil down to "I'm terrified because they are different. I'm terrified because when I look at them, for a second there I can see myself in their eyes and if I was wrong, then all I've said and done..."

It was about giving voices to the voiceless, and hearing how much they've been trying to say this whole time.

It was about what it means to be human.

I always start out reading a fantasy novel when it comes to Pratchett. And somehow it ends up in a moral philosophy lesson from a professor with a grasp of humanity that still leaves me astonished.
 
2022-01-26 3:40:37 PM  

HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.


That's the way I read them as well. And that's straight from the horse's mouth.
 
2022-01-26 4:03:04 PM  

HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.


I also read them in chronological order.  I'm glad I did it that way.  That way I understood the call backs to earlier novels.

And it's true the first couple novels aren't the best in the series, but I still really liked them.
 
2022-01-26 4:47:25 PM  

Mr_Vimes: It's about time. My feet are killing me.


It's threads like this that give me more names to farkify as "Pratchettist" but for you "Pratchettist, obviously."
 
2022-01-26 5:05:52 PM  

baka-san: Always one of my favorite observations

But #1 is always a toss up
"He'd noticed that sex bore some resemblance to cookery: It fascinated people, they sometimes bought books full of complicated recipes and interesting pictures, and sometimes when they were really hungry they created vast banquets in their imagination-but at the end of the day they'd settle quite happily for egg and chips, if it was well done and maybe had a slice of tomato."

That, and of course the Horseradish issue from Making Money


I was always partial to:
"Getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on."
 
2022-01-26 5:10:11 PM  
I would be more inclined to donate to The Guardian, except you continue to get hit with begging ads even after you do.  Kind of like PBS, which I no longer listen to.
 
2022-01-26 5:11:18 PM  

Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?


Small Gods is stand alone.  As is The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, The Truth, Thief of Time, and several others.

Personally, I might recommend Wyrd Sisters or Guards Guards or Soul Music or Wee Free Men or several other early but not necessarily first books if you want to try and follow one of the series in the books.

I tend to avoid recommending the very first books for three reasons. First, because it's daunting to start at 1/54. Second, the Discworld books are numerous and interconnected, but also self contained. Even Night Watch, which is best read after the previous books, can stand alone in a pinch.

But the third and most important reason: The first few books aren't as good. The Colour of Magic plants a lot of seeds, but it's like a model T compared to the fine tuned satirical machine later entries become
 
2022-01-26 5:20:55 PM  

Klivian: If you want a video presentation there was an adaptation of Hogfather that is kinda close to the book and enjoyable


There's also a miniseries for Going Postal.

I liked it, but I had read the book years earlier and wasn't comparing to see how accurate to the book it was.
 
2022-01-26 5:21:35 PM  

ajgeek: Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?

Don't read them in order.
Use this:
[Fark user image image 425x456]
Start with Colour of Magic to get your feet wet to the world and understand why everyone is looking for sapient pearwood.


For a lark you can also read Strata as a standalone Discworld-adjacent novel.
 
2022-01-26 5:27:31 PM  

HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.


One Piece just dropped its 1007-8th ish Television episode. There's 16 feature length movies, too.  Some 18ish days of watching.

Cowboy Bebop is one 26 episode season with a single movie.  about 13 hours or so.

Discworld is a commitment like one piece. even speed readers would take several days only of reading time to catch up and the first entries aren't representative of what discworld books would become.

Personally I started with Men at Arms because that was the first discworld book I stumbled across, but Guards Guards is a must read
 
2022-01-26 5:52:05 PM  
I would recommend bouncing around a bit, actually.

Start with the first Watch book, then the Witches, then go into Death's first book or so, hit up Rincewind/Wizards, then back to the Watch, etc.

The evolution of the Disc, for me, is one of the best parts. You get a sense of how the entire world grows and evolves through the eyes of all the different characters. I would look up a "written" order, and start with the first book in each faction, then progress through.

One of the ways to tell the passage of time on the Disc is actually how they refer to Vimes. There's a significant character evolution for him that permeates all the books and kind of let's you know, chronologically, where it fits in sequence.

If I remember right, I think Vimes and Death are the only two characters present in every one.
 
2022-01-26 6:26:55 PM  

Raug the Dwarf: I would recommend bouncing around a bit, actually.

Start with the first Watch book, then the Witches, then go into Death's first book or so, hit up Rincewind/Wizards, then back to the Watch, etc.

The evolution of the Disc, for me, is one of the best parts. You get a sense of how the entire world grows and evolves through the eyes of all the different characters. I would look up a "written" order, and start with the first book in each faction, then progress through.

One of the ways to tell the passage of time on the Disc is actually how they refer to Vimes. There's a significant character evolution for him that permeates all the books and kind of let's you know, chronologically, where it fits in sequence.

If I remember right, I think Vimes and Death are the only two characters present in every one.


Death is in every book, but vimes is only in a lot of them.
 
2022-01-26 6:53:39 PM  
For my money, his best book is Small Gods, my favourite is Thief of Time, and all of them should be required reading.
 
2022-01-26 7:49:52 PM  
"My mind wanders so much it comes back with souveniers."
Terry Pratchett
 
2022-01-26 7:56:37 PM  
Ook.
 
2022-01-26 8:36:18 PM  

Ishkur: That reminds me: I've been wanting to get into Terry Pratchett's works recently. The quotes I read from his books are always top notch and poignant.

Can anyone recommend to me how and where to start?


You can read them in order. I started reading them when there were only eight available so that was pretty much the only way.

I'd recommend Colour of Magic first, because it's the first and sets the scene. If you want an idea about what to expect, try Small Gods which is a very good standalone story and very representative of Pratchett's overall style.
 
2022-01-26 8:51:12 PM  

leeksfromchichis: HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.

One Piece just dropped its 1007-8th ish Television episode. There's 16 feature length movies, too.  Some 18ish days of watching.

Cowboy Bebop is one 26 episode season with a single movie.  about 13 hours or so.

Discworld is a commitment like one piece. even speed readers would take several days only of reading time to catch up and the first entries aren't representative of what discworld books would become.

Personally I started with Men at Arms because that was the first discworld book I stumbled across, but Guards Guards is a must read


I disagree - the books are incredibly quick-reading, and fairly short. Someone who reads at a "normal" level and with a "normal" amount of time for hobbies could finish the entire series in less than a year, which is hardly a huge time commitment.

The Math: average person reads at about 300 words per minute, the Discworld books are just under 4,000,000 words, and assuming that the average person has about 5 hours for hobbies per week.
 
2022-01-26 8:52:53 PM  
Anyone notice a glaring mistake in the article? The author claims that Pratchett's "Boots" theory comes from the novel Men at Arms, when in fact, it originates from The Colour of Magic.

That's another reason to read the first book in the series first. It's a fun read, and now you know the series gets better.
 
2022-01-26 9:40:32 PM  
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Pyramids is probably my favorite.  It may not be objectively his best, but I always enjoyed it the most.
 
2022-01-26 9:44:21 PM  

Lusiphur: leeksfromchichis: HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.

One Piece just dropped its 1007-8th ish Television episode. There's 16 feature length movies, too.  Some 18ish days of watching.

Cowboy Bebop is one 26 episode season with a single movie.  about 13 hours or so.

Discworld is a commitment like one piece. even speed readers would take several days only of reading time to catch up and the first entries aren't representative of what discworld books would become.

Personally I started with Men at Arms because that was the first discworld book I stumbled across, but Guards Guards is a must read

I disagree - the books are incredibly quick-reading, and fairly short. Someone who reads at a "normal" level and with a "normal" amount of time for hobbies could finish the entire series in less than a year, which is hardly a huge time commitment.

The Math: average person reads at about 300 words per minute, the Discworld books are just under 4,000,000 words, and assuming that the average person has about 5 hours for hobbies per week.


But you can binge Konosuba in A DAY.

And you should if you like discworld, probably.

Not everyone will want to commit "under a year" after colour of magic or light fantastic like after Wyrd Sisters or Soul Music.
 
2022-01-26 11:54:04 PM  
When does moving pictures happen?

Lusiphur: leeksfromchichis: HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.

One Piece just dropped its 1007-8th ish Television episode. There's 16 feature length movies, too.  Some 18ish days of watching.

Cowboy Bebop is one 26 episode season with a single movie.  about 13 hours or so.

Discworld is a commitment like one piece. even speed readers would take several days only of reading time to catch up and the first entries aren't representative of what discworld books would become.

Personally I started with Men at Arms because that was the first discworld book I stumbled across, but Guards Guards is a must read

I disagree - the books are incredibly quick-reading, and fairly short. Someone who reads at a "normal" level and with a "normal" amount of time for hobbies could finish the entire series in less than a year, which is hardly a huge time commitment.

The Math: average person reads at about 300 words per minute, the Discworld books are just under 4,000,000 words, and assuming that the average person has about 5 hours for hobbies per week.


I do the audio books while I play games online, they average about 10 discs/hours each.  The audiobooks are great because you get the voices/pronunciations.
 
2022-01-27 1:50:28 AM  
All this thread is doing for me is reminding me that i had to sell my full discworld run childhood library late last year for some extra cash. Not the best way to start the day.
 
2022-01-27 2:34:39 AM  

Smoking GNU: All this thread is doing for me is reminding me that i had to sell my full discworld run childhood library late last year for some extra cash. Not the best way to start the day.


*hug*
 
2022-01-27 2:55:30 AM  
The Economist does an annual "Big Mac" index to chart price inflation around the planet. They're smart about it, they let Mickey-Ds managers do all the work.

IMH they should probably go with KFC.
 
2022-01-27 3:06:00 AM  

maxheck: The Economist does an annual "Big Mac" index to chart price inflation around the planet. They're smart about it, they let Mickey-Ds managers do all the work.

IMH they should probably go with KfarkFC? Nobody but Creosote has KFC money

 
2022-01-27 5:01:12 AM  

i.r.id10t: Boojum2k: Terry Pratchett wrote more wisdom than any religious text out there.

Shaemlessly stolen from someone's FB post, and retyped.


I started out reading a fantasy novel. A simple police procedural in a city far away, that straddles an old slow river.

But no, it was about ethics. It was about knowing the difference between what's allowed, what's legal, and what's right. And that fairly often those three don't line up.

Or it was about gender politics. About the first person in a society willing to step up and say "You've called me by this name, and this pronoun, all my life. But that isn't me. This is me. No, we don't even have that pronoun yet, but this is still me."

Or it was about racism. That constant social whine of "well, everybody knows what they're like." The blame game that's based on the whispered mutterings that never have a source, and always boil down to "I'm terrified because they are different. I'm terrified because when I look at them, for a second there I can see myself in their eyes and if I was wrong, then all I've said and done..."

It was about giving voices to the voiceless, and hearing how much they've been trying to say this whole time.

It was about what it means to be human.

I always start out reading a fantasy novel when it comes to Pratchett. And somehow it ends up in a moral philosophy lesson from a professor with a grasp of humanity that still leaves me astonished.


I'd even add that it is also about what makes a good person.

Cohen had a very very astute observation about how the people with the lofty ideals rarely interact with the people they profess to help, while he might call them names and hit them over the head a few times, but still helps them when the chips are down.

/Yes, there is a condemnation of virtue signaling in the Discworld books
 
2022-01-27 5:06:33 AM  
"A lie can run round the world before the truth has got its boots on." and "It's not worth doing something unless someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren't doing it." are two of my favorites
 
2022-01-27 5:22:26 AM  
Seems there's at least one more Pratchettish book to purchase....

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/26/official-biography-of-terry-pratchett-to-be-published
 
2022-01-27 5:25:47 AM  

leeksfromchichis: HalEmmerich: I'm the weirdo who read them in publication order, and don't really understand why that's universally considered 'wrong'. Yes, he obviously gets better but I still enjoyed all those early books. I'm obviously in the minority though.

One Piece just dropped its 1007-8th ish Television episode. There's 16 feature length movies, too.  Some 18ish days of watching.

Cowboy Bebop is one 26 episode season with a single movie.  about 13 hours or so.

Discworld is a commitment like one piece. even speed readers would take several days only of reading time to catch up and the first entries aren't representative of what discworld books would become.

Personally I started with Men at Arms because that was the first discworld book I stumbled across, but Guards Guards is a must read


"Catch up" shouldn't be the goal though. Enjoying it is.

If people like the books, it won't matter that reading them all takes time. If they don't like the books, they won't finish anyway.

/Plus the time to finish them all doesn't change with the reading order
 
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