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(Guardian)   "If the Chinese film industry needs a stock foreign villain, I'm their first port of call"   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2435 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 26 Jan 2022 at 1:35 PM (16 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-01-26 1:58:44 PM  
Xi?

/what's that knock on the door?
 
2022-01-26 2:11:00 PM  
I met a woman who spent much of her time living abroad - she said it's like that for white actors in Bollywood too. She earned extra money by playing "evil temptress #2" in whatever production was nearby whenever she was short of cash that month.
 
2022-01-26 2:37:12 PM  
I thought it would be that big dude that was in Fury Road
 
2022-01-26 2:37:32 PM  
That would be so much fun. I'd love to play a villain.
 
2022-01-26 2:47:00 PM  

Magnanimous_J: That would be so much fun. I'd love to play a villain.


Well, you DO play one on fark, so there's that at least. (snark)
 
2022-01-26 3:04:11 PM  
Wow, even his interview was cleared through his agent
 
2022-01-26 3:06:24 PM  
There's "we need a villain and this foreign worker is good for the part" and then there's "we need a foreigner to play a villain as approved by the CCP".

If you're a white guy playing villains for the Chinese movie system, you're a willing cog in the CCP propaganda system.  Congratulations.
 
2022-01-26 3:07:30 PM  

monkeyboycjc: Magnanimous_J: That would be so much fun. I'd love to play a villain.

Well, you DO play one on fark, so there's that at least. (snark)


Yeah, but I don't get to throw people to wild dogs on here. And I almost never get to kidnap the protagonist's girlfriend.
 
2022-01-26 3:50:24 PM  

Unsung_Hero: There's "we need a villain and this foreign worker is good for the part" and then there's "we need a foreigner to play a villain as approved by the CCP".

If you're a white guy playing villains for the Chinese movie system, you're a willing cog in the CCP propaganda system.  Congratulations.


Sure, but then we do the kind of stuff here, so why bother calling them out for what we also do?
The CIA does have an office that does directly work with Hollywood movie production to help ensure American values are properly upheld/adhered to.


We may not be quite as use of violent forceful about it, but then that kind a carries its own insidious implications, that we fly it so much more under the radar most Americans aren't even aware that there is such offical govt "involvement" with the arts.


just say'n, we also exert some offical "propaganda" influence on our mega movie studios too, and so do most major countries. Some just more overt about it than others, some apply far more effort than others. But it is fairly middle bell a practice to be foudn really.
We as humans, don't really adhere to a cultural norm over time all that well, unless we do regularly reinforce those norms, both IRL and in the for fun fiction too.

more or less i find there are two POV to take up
;

1: fook all propaganda in general
2: fook THEIR propaganda specifically


I don't find another option really, expcet to be a hypocrite denouncing such behavior while turning a blind eye to your own.
Or maybe it was just the bliss, but then obviously i was attempting to ruin that particular angle for you. ;)
 
2022-01-26 4:30:19 PM  
CSB: We once hosted an Italian exchange student. After he went home and finished college he got a job with a company that had an office in China. He spoke flawless Italian, English, French and even a little German. He met someone who got him job as an extra in some Chinese movies. Most recently he was supposed to be an American soldier during the Korean War.

This guy's got it made. He's 26, making a lot of money, staying for free at a 3 star hotel in Shanghai as a "friend with benefits" for a model, plus he's so good looking that Abercrombie and Fitch wanted him to be one of the pieces of meat standing outside their store in Chicago.

Except for living in China he's got one hell of a life.
 
2022-01-26 4:43:11 PM  
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Have a Snickers.
 
2022-01-26 4:52:16 PM  
There's a fairly large market for being the white guy (or black guy) in Japanese television and movies.  Same thing, minus the governmental propaganda aspect.
 
2022-01-26 5:00:36 PM  
See, if this was the inverse of the west, even though he can't play normal leads, he'd still be able to be the wacky partner in a buddy cop movie.
 
2022-01-26 5:01:05 PM  

PvtStash: We may not be quite as use of violent forceful about it, but then that kind a carries its own insidious implications, that we fly it so much more under the radar most Americans aren't even aware that there is such offical govt "involvement" with the arts.


The difference is that the government can't prevent a movie they don't like from being released.

Their deal is that if you play nice and paint the military in the right light, you get to borrow tens of millions of dollars worth of equipment and personnel.

Its a lot easier to make a war flick if you get the tanks for free.
 
2022-01-26 6:27:26 PM  
It sure beats the generic muscle heads Hong Kong would bring in from Australia.  Most were so bad they even dubbed over them for American release.
 
2022-01-26 9:12:41 PM  
We all look alike, so he can probably fill an unlimited number of white guy roles.
 
2022-01-27 1:43:42 AM  
It's kind of funny the things people get mad about. During the Cold War we sold wheat to the Soviets. Yes, we helped feed the Evil Empire. In recent years we buy a lot of Chinese products, thereby financing Chinese government activities. But people are aghast at some guy making money by acting in Chinese government approved movies? The world is too interconnected, and has been for quite a while, for the kind of thinking that says we only play with good guys. How do you identify the good guys from the bad guys when the good guys are partnered with the bad guys?

The only thing I find questionable about that actor is his desire to work with higher quality talent. I'm not saying he can't do it, but it sounds to me like his success over there is going to his head a little.
 
2022-01-27 1:52:57 AM  

Unsung_Hero: There's "we need a villain and this foreign worker is good for the part" and then there's "we need a foreigner to play a villain as approved by the CCP".

If you're a white guy playing villains for the Chinese movie system, you're a willing cog in the CCP propaganda system.  Congratulations.


So like Muslims in any american film post 9/11?
 
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