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2022-01-26 3:06:11 AM  
"There's no particular incentive to settle with Giuliani or Powell, and it's not just the sadistic glee of making their lives miserable by forcing this to continue," said Don Herzog, a University of Michigan law professor.  "Although, that does help.  The Dominion's motto is, 'Victory is life!' after all."
 
2022-01-26 3:17:00 AM  
We don't execute the mentally ill.
Why steal. Oh. TFG
 
2022-01-26 3:18:18 AM  
Given that the only way to negotiate with lying nazi filth is to bury them into the ground and then take a dump to mark the spot, Dominion is doing God's work.
 
2022-01-26 3:19:57 AM  
It's critical for bad actors to be punished.

People who lie in public for political ends need to be held accountable.

Somehow they cause trillions of dollars in damage while not being culpable most of the time.

When someone gets standing to hold them to account, they have an obligation to nail them by the  scrotum to the wall in public.
 
2022-01-26 3:33:57 AM  
Dominion is looking for contrition.
I suspect Rudy will toot out an apology saying he was just joking .

Powell will ride this in to the ground
 
2022-01-26 3:37:31 AM  
anyone else frustrated at the slow pace of justice? i want these guys in prison before the midterms.
 
2022-01-26 3:44:34 AM  
"Powell and Giuliani have nothing to show remorse for and dispute that they have lied about anything," the defense lawyers said.

To be fair, " I am just really stupid" is better than "I lied" in this kind of case.
 
2022-01-26 3:53:42 AM  
All these Nazis need to be destroyed, so that they can never open their lying mouths again.
 
2022-01-26 3:58:43 AM  

Father_Jack: anyone else frustrated at the slow pace of justice? i want these guys in prison before the midterms.


Got bad news about what the consequences of civil suits are.

Also,

Lawyers for Giuliani and Powell said in the same filing that their clients may be open to settlement talks once the exchange of evidence, or "discovery," is complete.

Discovery isn't even done yet. Yammering about settlements before then is like setting up monthly car payments with your bank before visiting a dealership.
 
2022-01-26 4:35:47 AM  
I'm usually not rooting for the corporation yet here we are.
 
2022-01-26 4:40:22 AM  
Settling makes zero sense to Dominion.

The misinformation campaign from Trump and his lackeys have absolutely decimated their business, and they can easily prove hundreds of millions of dollars in actual damages: actual canceled contracts, lost opportunity cost -- NO red county will be buying their machines at this point because the local MAGAts would revolt.

What would they possibly settle FOR?
The amount cash Giuliani could reasonably pay them in a settlement is basically a rounding error for ZERO.
Decimating them in court and being able to publicly expose all the blatant lies for what they are at least gives Dominion at least a chance to salvage some of their besmirched reputation and earnings potential.

They'd be crazy to settle instead of going to court.
 
2022-01-26 5:09:49 AM  
I thought Judge Jeannine (sp?) Pirro was one of the defendants in this suit.  Why was she not mentioned?  Just curious.
 
2022-01-26 5:18:24 AM  
Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.


https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html
 
2022-01-26 5:20:30 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html


The lawyers refuse to show up in court until the case is before the Supreme Court?

I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I think they're trying to skip a whole lot of steps.
 
2022-01-26 5:26:29 AM  

Alphax: foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html

The lawyers refuse to show up in court until the case is before the Supreme Court?

I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I think they're trying to skip a whole lot of steps.


No no no.  They won't participate until SCOTUS hears ALL of their appeals.  If SCOTUS doesn't like one, well make another!  Appeal that onion!
 
2022-01-26 5:31:57 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html



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2022-01-26 5:52:04 AM  

Father_Jack: anyone else frustrated at the slow pace of justice? i want these guys in prison before the midterms.


You really need a primer on what the penalties are for a civil suit there, ace.
 
2022-01-26 5:59:26 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Father_Jack: anyone else frustrated at the slow pace of justice? i want these guys in prison before the midterms.

You really need a primer on what the penalties are for a civil suit there, ace.


They'll be in prison for contempt.
 
2022-01-26 5:59:48 AM  
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2022-01-26 6:27:30 AM  
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2022-01-26 6:43:08 AM  
I never settle.
If I have a winning case, arbitration is out the window.
Finish them and leave nothing for the vultures.
 
2022-01-26 6:49:47 AM  
Dominion is out for blood, and I'm here for every second of it.  They're going to clean up and they know it.

This may well destroy Rudy financially.
 
2022-01-26 6:53:25 AM  

foo monkey: Gyrfalcon: Father_Jack: anyone else frustrated at the slow pace of justice? i want these guys in prison before the midterms.

You really need a primer on what the penalties are for a civil suit there, ace.

They'll be in

prison for contemptand nothing of much consequence will happen for 5 years or so.
 
2022-01-26 6:56:16 AM  
Dominion will take Rudy Colludi's money and Powell's money as appetizers, and they'll even help themself to pillow company money. What they want is the big enchilada: Fox News offering a settlement.

All these little cases are setting the grounds and precedent to sue Fox for a few billion dollars. And it's profitable to do so. Spend $40,000 a day on attorneys, every day for 2 years. That's 29.2 million dollars for the chance at a 60 to 1 return in a 2 billion dollar lawsuit? Hell yes they'll try it. That's capitalism at its finest.
 
2022-01-26 7:42:17 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html


Fine strategy Cotton, let's see how that works out

/Drug addled dumbass
 
2022-01-26 7:42:59 AM  

foo monkey: Gyrfalcon: Father_Jack: anyone else frustrated at the slow pace of justice? i want these guys in prison before the midterms.

You really need a primer on what the penalties are for a civil suit there, ace.

They'll be in prison for contempt.


Please proceed, I'd love to see Lindell to the frog march....
 
2022-01-26 7:55:10 AM  
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Distanced?  Distancing yourself from someone means inviting them to visit you in the White House?
 
2022-01-26 8:05:04 AM  
I know what they want...
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2022-01-26 8:17:49 AM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: Dominion is looking for contrition.
I suspect Rudy will toot out an apology saying he was just joking .

Powell will ride this in to the ground


Contrition was appropriate when Dominion sent Rudy a letter telling him to stop lying about them or they will sue.  Dominion is looking for money now.  People like Powell and Guilinani don't have much money but if they are beaten, Fox News will shiat their pants in fear and will have to write a big f$cking cheque or get ordered to write an even bigger f$cking cheque.
 
2022-01-26 8:34:54 AM  
Dominion has other pro-Trump media personalities and networks, including MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell and Newsmax, seeking billions of dollars in monetary damages. The defendants have argued in court filings that they engaged in free speech protected by the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment.


Judge:  You had knowledge that your statements were patently false, yet you continued to repeat them, knowing that it would cause substantial financial harm, which is tantamount to malice.  BAILIFF, spank his peepee!
 
2022-01-26 8:47:15 AM  

vudukungfu: I never settle.
If I have a winning case, arbitration is out the window.
Finish them and leave nothing for the vultures.


Settling often makes sense even if you have a winning hand. The unpredictability of litigation. The cost of going to trial. The knowledge that a judgment for full value will push your defendant into bankruptcy and you will end up with zip.

This is none of those times.
 
2022-01-26 9:28:21 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html


If that's how he wants to play it, I'm sure the judge who enters the default judgement of 1.7B will have no trouble freezing his assets until the appeals are heard.

/Dominion has no chance of getting 1.7B
//Unless it's a default judgement in which case it's entirely possible
 
2022-01-26 9:33:18 AM  
Dominion should set one condition for settling: Rudy and Kraken lady have to roll over on Trump and give up every bit of evidence and testimony to State and Fed investigators.  That condition doesn't go for OAN or other networks because they have real money that the other two lack and Dominion needs.
 
2022-01-26 9:36:31 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html


They should check in with Alex Jones on that. I feel like he, well, he doesn't have any good advice because he still thinks he came out on top, but he can at least tell them how judges react to just not showing up.
 
2022-01-26 9:47:34 AM  

MattyBlast: I thought Judge Jeannine (sp?) Pirro was one of the defendants in this suit.  Why was she not mentioned?  Just curious.


Last paragraph states that Dominion is suing other Trump supporters such as Mike Lindell and NewsMax.   Pirro is on that long list of lying bastards.
 
2022-01-26 9:56:29 AM  

HighOnCraic: "There's no particular incentive to settle with Giuliani or Powell, and it's not just the sadistic glee of making their lives miserable by forcing this to continue," said Don Herzog, a University of Michigan law professor.  "Although, that does help.  The Dominion's motto is, 'Victory is life!' after all."


Get something vs get nothing because the judgement is wiped out in bankruptcy court. So yes there is
 
2022-01-26 10:08:01 AM  
They should bury these aholes under a mountain of debt so Rudy, Powell, and Mike Pillows are on the streets wrapped in MAGA flags to stay warm. If they do settle I am sure they and Fox will try to put in how it has to remain secret and not offer an apology and admit any wrongdoing. Dominion just needs to bury these farkers and piss on the ashes.
 
2022-01-26 10:19:28 AM  
Yes, yes, yes. That's a typical Dominion strategy. They offer to give up something valuable in order to hide the fact that they want something even more valuable in the long term. See, that's how they think. Big picture. They don't worry about what's going to happen tomorrow, no, no, no, they're thinking long term. They're thinking what's going to happen a year from now, a decade, a century. Yes, yes.
 
2022-01-26 10:26:13 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html


Apparently they're trying to appeal the fact that the judge denied their motion to dismiss. I'm not a lawyer but I work with lawyers, can you even appeal a MTD? It sounds ludicrous.  I've not seen it.
 
2022-01-26 10:34:44 AM  

HighOnCraic: Yes, yes, yes. That's a typical Dominion strategy. They offer to give up something valuable in order to hide the fact that they want something even more valuable in the long term. See, that's how they think. Big picture. They don't worry about what's going to happen tomorrow, no, no, no, they're thinking long term. They're thinking what's going to happen a year from now, a decade, a century. Yes, yes.


User name check out.
:)
 
2022-01-26 10:41:35 AM  

FarkingChas: HighOnCraic: Yes, yes, yes. That's a typical Dominion strategy. They offer to give up something valuable in order to hide the fact that they want something even more valuable in the long term. See, that's how they think. Big picture. They don't worry about what's going to happen tomorrow, no, no, no, they're thinking long term. They're thinking what's going to happen a year from now, a decade, a century. Yes, yes.

User name check out.
:)


It's HighOnCraic, not HighOnJack!

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2022-01-26 10:50:50 AM  

hobnail: foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html

Apparently they're trying to appeal the fact that the judge denied their motion to dismiss. I'm not a lawyer but I work with lawyers, can you even appeal a MTD? It sounds ludicrous.  I've not seen it.


Apparently not, as the DC Circuit denied the appeal because it lacked jurisdiction for precisely this reason

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2022-01-26 10:53:06 AM  

foo monkey: Lulz in the side-bar.

Mike Lindell's lawyers are dodging meetings for Dominion's defamation lawsuit and refusing to hand over discovery material, court documents show

Lindell's lawyers say they won't participate until the Supreme Court hears all of their appeals.

https://news.yahoo.com/mike-lindells-lawyers-dodging-meetings-213912463.html


Man, Lindell really wants a default judgement against himself, doesn't he?
 
2022-01-26 11:01:52 AM  

Excelsior: The amount cash Giuliani could reasonably pay them in a settlement is basically a rounding error for ZERO.
Decimating them in court and being able to publicly expose all the blatant lies for what they are at least gives Dominion at least a chance to salvage some of their besmirched reputation and earnings potential.


Additionally, getting ONE defamation verdict might facilitate getting ADDITIONAL verdicts -- against parties with deeper pockets.

wademh: Distanced? Distancing yourself from someone means inviting them to visit you in the White House?


The ex-45** campaign and the ex-45** presidential administration are legally distinct entities.
 
2022-01-26 11:15:38 AM  
Dominion sucks too. They bribed our local officials to use their shiatty voting machines.

https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2021/08/dominion-voting-machines-ocean-county-nj-contract-expected-despite-advice-not-to-campaign-contributions-republicans/

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I hope everyone here loses.
 
2022-01-26 11:22:51 AM  

Warlordtrooper: HighOnCraic: "There's no particular incentive to settle with Giuliani or Powell, and it's not just the sadistic glee of making their lives miserable by forcing this to continue," said Don Herzog, a University of Michigan law professor.  "Although, that does help.  The Dominion's motto is, 'Victory is life!' after all."

Get something vs get nothing because the judgement is wiped out in bankruptcy court. So yes there is


There is no amount that Guilliani or Powell can give that would even remotely make up for the damage their lies have caused.  Even if they retracted the statements and apologized, there would be a cloud of doubt over it saying that they were coerced to do so by the threat of litigation. Literally the only thing that can even start to undo that damage, from Dominion's point of view, is a finding of fact in a court of law that what they said was completely false.
 
2022-01-26 12:03:04 PM  
abb3w:

The ex-45** campaign and the ex-45** presidential administration are legally distinct entities.

Horse shiat.
 
2022-01-26 12:03:50 PM  

Bandito King: abb3w:

The ex-45** campaign and the ex-45** presidential administration are legally distinct entities.

Horse shiat.


What?
 
2022-01-26 12:18:00 PM  

Marcos P: Dominion sucks too. They bribed our local officials to use their shiatty voting machines.

https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2021/08/dominion-voting-machines-ocean-county-nj-contract-expected-despite-advice-not-to-campaign-contributions-republicans/

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I hope everyone here loses.


While I haven't looked into this specific allegation, it's important to remember that just because Dominion hasn't done the specific things the people in this suit accuse them of doesn't mean they haven't done other terrible things.

Dominion & all voting companies are pretty shiatty companies, just not in the way these bozos claim.
 
2022-01-26 12:19:24 PM  

Bandito King: Horse shiat.


But legally important horse shiat... at least until it's shown they weren't kept properly distinct.
 
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