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(Big Think)   Dispite overwhelming observational evidence at the most fundamental level of matter, some idiot wants you to ignore that and believe the universe is not full of symmetrical patterns   (bigthink.com) divider line
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2022-01-25 6:30:50 AM  
Whistling past the symmetry.
 
2022-01-25 7:55:28 AM  
So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.
 
2022-01-25 8:20:46 AM  
I'm greening this assuming the submitter is making a joke with the tagline
 
2022-01-25 9:08:02 AM  
Subby sounds disperate.
 
db2
2022-01-25 9:09:14 AM  
"Dispite"?
 
2022-01-25 9:09:53 AM  

Driedsponge: So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.


Counterpoint: he wrote an article for Big Think.

I mean, Michio Kaku has a PhD in physics too, but I know enough to atop reading when his name pops up (and God help us if he ever co-authors an article with Avi Loeb).
 
2022-01-25 9:27:49 AM  
Your girlfriend isn't even symmetric.
 
2022-01-25 9:29:33 AM  
And I can prove zero dimensional computable geometric logic, I call it Logic Geometry: A computable logic that arises from how connections are made and/or broken over time. The working models use one command, that allows you to create or overwrite a non-system command with a string of commands, and nothing else. My math emulator, that works like a highly automated abacus, can do addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using only this one command.
 
2022-01-25 9:45:34 AM  

OccamsWhiskers: Subby sounds disperate.


I don't know about you, but disperate could go for some rum, matey.
 
2022-01-25 9:57:03 AM  

johnphantom: And I can prove zero dimensional computable geometric logic, I call it Logic Geometry: A computable logic that arises from how connections are made and/or broken over time. The working models use one command, that allows you to create or overwrite a non-system command with a string of commands, and nothing else. My math emulator, that works like a highly automated abacus, can do addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using only this one command.


Your post jogged something in my memory.  There is a single op code Turing-complete language:

https://esolangs.org/wiki/OISC
 
2022-01-25 10:15:48 AM  
Big deal. Sheldon Cooper got the Nobel Prize in Physics for discovering Super-Asymmetry.
 
2022-01-25 10:32:53 AM  

Driedsponge: So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.


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I at least want to party with the guy
 
2022-01-25 10:55:00 AM  
So Roger Penrose was right?
 
2022-01-25 12:29:08 PM  
I'd say that a mirror image is pretty symmetric.  What the author thinks it has symmetry with is incorrect.
 
2022-01-25 12:45:34 PM  

Driedsponge: So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.


I assume the headline is a joke, or else subby didn't understand the article.

The article is actually about how the universe observably has symmetries at the fundamental level, but some theoretically proposed additional symmetries haven't panned out experimentally.
 
2022-01-25 12:54:09 PM  

db2: "Dispite"?


Don't be dissing subby's spelling.
 
2022-01-25 12:57:21 PM  

Ambitwistor: Driedsponge: So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.

I assume the headline is a joke, or else subby didn't understand the article.

The article is actually about how the universe observably has symmetries at the fundamental level, but some theoretically proposed additional symmetries haven't panned out experimentally.


I want subby to produce a magnetic monopole.  Nevermind any issues in proving supersymmetry.
 
2022-01-25 1:23:02 PM  

Driedsponge: So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.



Well the one thing in that that i notice is this:
What colleges?
See if you were a "professor" (that's a specific title to hold) and you did teach at, certain colleges.
You would not fail to name them explicitly.
So if you have earned that title, and did do that, but didn't want to say exactly where, just 'various colleges."
That is it's own "red flag" in academia.

If you were all that, odds are you only held professor title at one maybe two different colleges in your career.
With even the first one potentially being your life long tenure track posting. Having to skip around between different colleges, you don't name, is it's own strata of status. relative to, held position at named institution, for a life long researching and professing career there.

From the academic POV, it's more that  if you are moving between multiple institutions in short enough order, that's something you have to do more than a get to do, if you see what that means.


Also, academia, just getting published, at all for whatever, generally carries more weight than being real but not getting published as much.
 
2022-01-25 1:38:21 PM  
A student takes a paper to a theoretical physicist.  He asks for an opinion.  The professor says "Your conclusion is wrong and here's why..."

Distraught, the student rewrites the paper using the opposite conclusion.  He resubmits the paper to the professor who replies:  "Your conclusion is wrong and here's why..."

Granted, many of the great leaps in physics were only 'there' mathematically before they were actually discovered.  (Black holes, Higgs Boson, neutrinos, etc) But experimental evidence always outweighs theoretical models.  If an experiment disproves a part of your theory, you change the model to fit reality.
 
2022-01-25 2:01:45 PM  

A Cave Geek: A student takes a paper to a theoretical physicist.  He asks for an opinion.  The professor says "Your conclusion is wrong and here's why..."

Distraught, the student rewrites the paper using the opposite conclusion.  He resubmits the paper to the professor who replies:  "Your conclusion is wrong and here's why..."

Granted, many of the great leaps in physics were only 'there' mathematically before they were actually discovered.  (Black holes, Higgs Boson, neutrinos, etc) But experimental evidence always outweighs theoretical models.  If an experiment disproves a part of your theory, you change the model to fit reality.


The dean of a university is yelling at the head of the physics department over their budget submission. "This is millions of dollars worth of equipment! Look at the math department, they only ask for pencils, paper, and wastebaskets. Look at the economics department, they don't even ask for the wastebaskets."
 
2022-01-25 2:05:08 PM  

Algebrat: The dean of a university is yelling at the head of the physics department over their budget submission. "This is millions of dollars worth of equipment! Look at the math department, they only ask for pencils, paper, and wastebaskets. Look at the economics department, they don't even ask for the wastebaskets."


I've always heard that punchline as the philosophy department :D
 
2022-01-25 2:16:44 PM  
Interesting article. Quantum physics has been my bedtime reading for sometime and the more I try to absorb it all the more I'm convinced we are just a the beginning of our deeper understanding of how the universe operates.

This reads like a frustrated physicist who's in a field that hasn't made a lot of progress towards answering the big questions like gravity in about 100 years. All our understanding breaks down at the extreme levels, and we want to know more, so keep chipping away at it scientists. You have my admiration and complete skepticism that dark matter is a real thing, and not just a misunderstanding of how gravity works.
 
2022-01-25 2:24:15 PM  

unchellmatt: Algebrat: The dean of a university is yelling at the head of the physics department over their budget submission. "This is millions of dollars worth of equipment! Look at the math department, they only ask for pencils, paper, and wastebaskets. Look at the economics department, they don't even ask for the wastebaskets."

I've always heard that punchline as the philosophy department :D


That's how I first heard it too, but I think the econ department deserves it more.

"Our theories aren't wrong, people are just failing to be rational and do what we expected them to!"
 
2022-01-25 2:38:54 PM  

Algebrat: unchellmatt: Algebrat: The dean of a university is yelling at the head of the physics department over their budget submission. "This is millions of dollars worth of equipment! Look at the math department, they only ask for pencils, paper, and wastebaskets. Look at the economics department, they don't even ask for the wastebaskets."

I've always heard that punchline as the philosophy department :D

That's how I first heard it too, but I think the econ department deserves it more.

"Our theories aren't wrong, people are just failing to be rational and do what we expected them to!"


After working in IT for over 20yrs the idea of people doing what they're supposed to do makes me laugh.

Then cry.

Then wake half naked under my desk with an empty bottle of Old Undershirt bourbon, sucking my thumb and whimpering.
 
2022-01-25 2:43:44 PM  
I have a problem with any headline that misspells the first farking word. Yeah, I'm talking to you subby.
 
2022-01-25 2:46:38 PM  

unchellmatt: Algebrat: unchellmatt: Algebrat: The dean of a university is yelling at the head of the physics department over their budget submission. "This is millions of dollars worth of equipment! Look at the math department, they only ask for pencils, paper, and wastebaskets. Look at the economics department, they don't even ask for the wastebaskets."

I've always heard that punchline as the philosophy department :D

That's how I first heard it too, but I think the econ department deserves it more.

"Our theories aren't wrong, people are just failing to be rational and do what we expected them to!"

After working in IT for over 20yrs the idea of people doing what they're supposed to do makes me laugh.

Then cry.

Then wake half naked under my desk with an empty bottle of Old Undershirt bourbon, sucking my thumb and whimpering.


An economist would conclude that the space under your desk must be more valuable since you keep winding up there, so we should put in a rent surcharge for its usage to improve market efficiency.
 
2022-01-25 3:04:22 PM  
Algebrat:

An economist would conclude that the space under your desk must be more valuable since you keep winding up there, so we should put in a rent surcharge for its usage to improve market efficiency.

0_o

jesus... that's almost brilliant.
 
2022-01-25 3:15:51 PM  

Ambitwistor: Driedsponge: So let's see who this idiot is, shall we?

Ethan Siegel is a Ph.D. astrophysicist and author of "Starts with a Bang!" He is a science communicator, who professes physics and astronomy at various colleges. He has won numerous awards for science writing since 2008 for his blog, including the award for best science blog by the Institute of Physics.

Huh....I wonder what qualifications subby has that gives them the standing to cast judgement.

I assume the headline is a joke, or else subby didn't understand the article.

The article is actually about how the universe observably has symmetries at the fundamental level, but some theoretically proposed additional symmetries haven't panned out experimentally.


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You can just adjust them with this ray
 
2022-01-25 3:21:16 PM  

johnphantom: And I can prove zero dimensional computable geometric logic, I call it Logic Geometry: A computable logic that arises from how connections are made and/or broken over time. The working models use one command, that allows you to create or overwrite a non-system command with a string of commands, and nothing else. My math emulator, that works like a highly automated abacus, can do addition, subtraction, multiplication and division using only this one command.


But can anyone else do math this way?
 
2022-01-25 4:16:14 PM  
I have a pretty good guess who submitted this, and he is conspicuously absent fro this thread.
 
2022-01-25 4:41:16 PM  

unchellmatt: Algebrat: unchellmatt: Algebrat: The dean of a university is yelling at the head of the physics department over their budget submission. "This is millions of dollars worth of equipment! Look at the math department, they only ask for pencils, paper, and wastebaskets. Look at the economics department, they don't even ask for the wastebaskets."

I've always heard that punchline as the philosophy department :D

That's how I first heard it too, but I think the econ department deserves it more.

"Our theories aren't wrong, people are just failing to be rational and do what we expected them to!"

After working in IT for over 20yrs the idea of people doing what they're supposed to do makes me laugh.

Then cry.

Then wake half naked under my desk with an empty bottle of Old Undershirt bourbon, sucking my thumb and whimpering.


Computer science is a race between engineers to create better, faster and more idiot-proof systems, and the universe to create bigger and better idiots.  So far, the universe is winning
- Someone whose name I don't remember.But as true in the early 90's as today.
 
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